Knife control
by Jeremy 'Panda Man' Weidenhof · 05/27/2005 11:11 amDoctors in Britain are doing it. They’re calling for a ban on long, pointed kitchen knives to reduce stabbing deaths. Citing a rise in violent crime, the use of kitchen implements in up to half of stabbings, and the impulsive nature of many assaults, the doctors claim that banning such utensils would curb violence.
Britain already has a virtual ban on firearms and restrictions on knives similar to those here in the States, but carving up one’s spouse with a Ginsu seems to be a big problem across the pond.
According to the story:
"The Home Office is looking for ways to reduce knife crime.” "We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect."
In fact the researchers went to the experts on this one:
The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all. They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.
Apparently the chefs saw no use for long knives in carving meat or dicing fruit and vegetables. Shorter pointed blades are given a pass, since they would likely “only” cause superficial wounds and not reach vital organs in a stabbing.
New opposition slogan: “When steak knives are outlawed only outlaws will eat steak.”
Presumably, workmen will eventually be consulted about the usefulness of screwdrivers, hammers, and other tools, students about the necessity of pencils, woodsmen about the usefulness of axes and chainsaws, et cetera. Any trade’s dangerous tools will be fair game as the violent abuse pointed objects.
The old saying “you can’t legislate morality” comes to mind.
BRAMANTI ADDS: This was my favorite line:
They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.
I didn’t know Britain had 10 chefs. You’ve got to remember this is a country whose crowning culinary achievements include baked beans on toast and black pudding.
COURREGES ADDS:I love the New York Times headline on this: "British Medical Experts Campaign for Long, Pointy Knife Control."
The Times also quotes a spokesman for the Brady Campaign, who says his movement is "envious" of Britain for having these problems. I think that tells you everything you need to know about the gun-grabbers.
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What is really scary if you read that whole article is how stunningly similar what they are saying about knives is to what Hillary and her buddies like Sarah Brady say about guns here in the US. Britain banned virtually all private ownership of firearms, and they have had a corresponding surge in violence. Cities like Baltimore and Washington DC have had some of the most restrictive gun ownership laws in the country for over a decade, and yet they still have some of the highest rates of violent crime in the country. An intelligent person would look at those statistics and say that when you take away the resident’s means of defending themselves against criminals, the crime level increases. Such an assumption is validated by the declining crime rates in states where concealed carry laws have been passed. But the British still don’t get it, and their Home Office is out there parroting the same old lines about “common sense measures” to decrease crime. They took one class of weapons away and crime increased…so is it really “common sense” to take away another? Keep that in mind next time you are asked to accept “commons sense limitations” on firearms purchases and ownership that violate the 2nd ammendment to the constitution.
In a country where ordinary people had no guns, the phrase “Axe Murder” was the main plot for th “whodunnit” stories. Since every household no longer has Axes, no need to chop firewood anymore, the knife became the next choice. When these are banned, hammers, then cricket bats and other tools will follow suite. Since you woll be left without any other option, people will just pick up a rock and bash in someone’s head.
After all the rocks are removed, the island will be underthe ocean and there will be no more murders.
A much easier fix that will save a lot of interruption for normal people is to require everyone to have a gun. This will eliminate the inconvience to the non-murders in the removal of all the useful tools that make our way of life possible.
In this ultra-liberal world of political correctness, what is next ?
Maybe no more baseball bats, they are way too American, and we don’t want to offend anyone, also you really can hurt someone with a bat !
We had better ban them or shorten them so the least amount of injury will be a subdural hematoma !
By the way while we are in the political correctness mode let’s do away with history books, pictures of Washington ,Lincoln, anything that may indicate a religion, seal the U.S. Constitution away in a vault for no further viewing, no display of the flag, no apples pies and finally do away with the dreaded Red Ryder B-B Gun.
As for legislating morality, it can’t be done on an empire [country] that is falling from within due to European style ultra-liberalism, socialism and communism !
I think this is the “Stuff” our forefathers were trying to escape !
Matt:
I hope you comment on culinary acheivements was “tongue-in-cheek”, Ive spent a lot of time in the UK and know that their food is quite good.
These 10 chefs, are the same unnamed sources used for Newsweek stories? It is a load of BS……..chefs in the UK use long pointed knives whenever they need to, they are standard tools of the trade.
Once again, this is a liberal mindset at work. They are ignoring the reason people stab one another, and focus on the means to stab. How stupid can these people be? If you cannot find a knife, you will use whatever is available!
Lack of self-control cannot be legislated, murder (deliberate killing) is a matter of the heart, and driven by emotions, not rational thought.
Don’t you understand? It’s not the net affect of the gun/knife control laws, it’s the good feelings they get when they pass them.
Edd-
I sell the logo knives to your restaurant. Am I liable now for any problems between your staff and management? Your steaks are so tender the patrons won’t mind picking them up and gnawing rather then cutting. Do you want us to cancel the last order?
Craig Hagedorn
Tramontina USA, Inc.
Does this mean I should hoard my kitchen knife set, less it become a butcher-block of mass destruction, or a assault knife set which no sane person needs for cooking? The Brits outlawing knives doesn’t mean much in their kitchens anyway, doesn’t every British recipe read “take one (fill in the blank), boil the hell out of it”?
Maybe the Nannies can take a page from the ancient Chinese history books, where each village was allowed ONE knife for preparing food (lest they have more than one and could attack Imperial officials en mass), hence the Chinese invented take-out!
Well, Cain killed Able with a rock - when do you think they will outlaw them?
The old slippery slope. First guns, now knives and what’s next? Men have been killing one another for a very long time and will likely continue to do so. You can’t ban sticks and rocks. Where there’s a will there’s a way.
Think about it — if one arguing against the effectiveness of gun control as a deterrent to violence had used this as an example of what comes after we can’t control crime with gun bans (”what will we have next? Control over kitchen knives?”), that person would have been laughed off the forum.
However, now that it’s been proposed, obviously some gun control advocates think it’s a good idea.
Silly rabbit. The remedy for societal violence isn’t in more laws and more restrictions on mere tools which can be misued by anyone with a bad intention; it’s in teaching from the beginning the laws that matter (they’re commandments, folks, not ’suggestions’), and instilling in children (and adults, if they’re capable of learning) honor, and respect, and character, and conscience. And in requiring responsibility and accountability.
However, that’s obviously much too radical. Better to ban knives than to do anything ridiculous, right?
Knife control to once again disarm the common folk
This from the same folks like Nevil Chamberlin. Surrender, surrender, without a wisper
He strong faith told him his signed treaty with Hitler Held actual Value for the kingdom,
You might remember how that worked out
Like Larry the Cable Guy says, guns don’t kill people-husbands who come home early do. I suppose this applies to knives as well.
Give me a break.
The UK got it wrong on gun control … Crime spiraling out of control. Now their going to take away long pointy objects from the citizens ???
Why not tie up all the law abiding citizens and just let all the criminals have at it.
RAL
Instead of banning such lethal instuments of death, the government should register and tax these knives.The owner of the knife will have an inspector come around once a year inspect the weapon and collect a duty, much like they do with shotguns in the U.K.Then they can proceed in registering and taxing other weapons like cricket bats, claw hammers,tire tools,machetes,shovels and lawnmower blades.
What you are actually seeing in this attempt to ban “Long, Pointy Knives” is part of the long standing conspiracy by British Vegans(total left wing loonies)to destroy the British Beef industry.
Remember the British are the inventors of Grey Meat, generally they like their beef “well done” this results in a definite need for steak knives. Remove the steak knives and the cooked beef becomes inedible thus no-one will buy it and the British Beef Industry will falter.
Think this is a joke? Try buying a piece of beef “bone-in” in a British butcher shop. The Vegans politicked to have that stopped as part of their “Mad Cow” scare, despite the dearth of proof that anyone has ever actually contracted the disease from cooked “bone in” beef.
Look out Edd, if they are successful they will start showing up here next.
Legalise drugs, that’s what I say and slap a hefty tax on them, before you know it $$$$$$$$$ will be pouring into US treasury and talk of the deficit will be a topic of the past.
Let’s admit it folks we can never win the war on drugs, stop wasting $$$$$$$$ trying to fight it. BRAMANTI RESPONDS: Oh boy, a federal government empowered with even more $$$$$$$$$! What a great idea!