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  1. Ken Kelley on August 9th, 2005 at 12:43 pm

    What?! Are you trying to suggest that words mean things? Are you trying to suggest that our public school system should be teaching spelling and grammar? Are you suggesting that the Congresswoman needs an editor?

    And, moving along to substance, what about the “innocent casualities” which do occur or could occur at the hands of illegal immigrants?

    Which part of “illegal” is so difficult to understand?

    – Ken

  2. Don on August 9th, 2005 at 12:59 pm

    This pales when compared to her two other famous comments….that of returning to Mars and picking up the flag we left there (keep in mind NASA was in her district then), and the shooting in the Capitol building and Congressman Delay’s office, where she described the rotunda as “a giant, carnivorous room”. Yale can be proud of all the language skills of their graduates!!

  3. Ted on August 9th, 2005 at 3:08 pm

    *you dedicate an entire post to one instance of **Jacksonsl *mis use or misspelling. I have seen no such glee when Bush does so*, his efforts to use the *english language are laughable and his *mis use of the same *are legendary. *’Is *are children learning*’ he once asked. I will take *Jacksons’ command of the *english language over *GW any day of the week.

    BRAMANTI RESPONDS: Ted, I count 14 instances of missed punctuation, misspelling and bad grammar in your four-sentence comment. They’re marked with asterisks.

  4. Ted on August 9th, 2005 at 3:30 pm

    I acknowledge my speeling is bad. I acknowledged that before on this blog. As is yours on many occaisions. Besides, my Palm does not have spell check. Nice job of deflecting from my point though.

    BRAMANTI RESPONDS: Sure, the president mangles grammar now and then, and he looks pretty dumb when he does it. That said, I can’t remember an instance in which he confused a geographical feature with a tasty confectionary. Class dismissed.

  5. gregg on August 9th, 2005 at 3:59 pm

    Lets be honest. Sheila Jackson Lee has a job as representative only because the Democrats carved one out for her based on poor black people residing in an area. If she had to run statewide or any other large area she would be laughed out of the room. Why GWB hugs and kisses her I dont know. She does nothing but stab him in the back.

    Leave her alone. A government job is all she qualifies for. When you look up “affirmative action” in the dictionary you see her picture.

  6. sc on August 9th, 2005 at 4:40 pm

    I wanted to film my dessert being blown to pieces but Sheila Jackson Lee jumped in front of the camera.

  7. Mark on August 9th, 2005 at 4:44 pm

    The last paragraph in Ms. Jackson Lee’s “Expression of Outrage” on her website states:

    “Please be patient and let the government handle border security. If you want to help, write a letter to your congressman explaining how important this issue is instead of arming yourself and wandering through dangerous border areas in search of suspicious activity.”

    Just how much more patient should we be, and how many letters do we need to write before she pulls her head out of the sand along with the rest of the Congressmen and women? I haven’t reviewed the bill and don’t know if it’s a good or bad idea as it is written. I do know that we have been waiting for the government to tighten the border for far too long. They need to take the lead in this or get out of the way!

  8. Ted on August 9th, 2005 at 4:54 pm

    Sorry, but since you were being petty. Dessert according to Websters is the final course in a meal. Typically cake or pie. Confectionary is a confectioners store.
    I don’t think Ms. Lee made any reference to any such retail establishment. I guess class was not dismissed.

    BRAMANTI RESPONDS: Sorry, Ted, but your extra-credit assignment is denied. Take a look at Definition #2: "Sweet preparations; confections."

  9. sc on August 9th, 2005 at 4:57 pm

    You know,if the word got out, just the thought of a bunch of us redneck Texans wandering the “dessert” armed to the teeth should deter many of the illegals.

  10. Ted on August 9th, 2005 at 5:05 pm

    Nice try, but you are worng according to my dictionary.
    But how about the bigger point. What waste of time making fun of her, when in truth we all make mistakes. We all rely to much on spell check. And as you admit the Pres. cannot speak a complete sentence to save his life.

  11. Ted on August 9th, 2005 at 5:08 pm

    You choose "Dictionary.com" I choose Websters (bound edition). I will stick with Websters.

    BRAMANTI RESPONDS: And Ted takes the bait. Okay, Ted. I’ll see your Webster’s and raise you the Oxford English Dictionary. You know, the definitive dictionary of the English language? "A confectionary preparation." Well, that’s that. Do yourself a favor, Ted. Don’t ever play poker.

  12. Rastus on August 9th, 2005 at 7:19 pm

    Is this the same Sheeliah Jackson Warthog that wanted the Mars rover to view the site where astronauts planted a flag on their trip in the late 1060’s?

  13. Angie on August 9th, 2005 at 9:47 pm

    Please limit the posts from this person. He says nothing and only writes to boost himself in his eyes. It is getting boring.

  14. Kathi Smith on August 10th, 2005 at 7:45 am

    At least the President admits to his challenged verbal skills. “his words go where no man has ever gone before” He makes jokes himself about it. In reality any speech therapist or shrink will tell you that his problem is he thinks faster that he can speak, therefore twisting words. A person who thinks that quickly is very brilliant not a moron as you would try to convince everyone.

    Sheila is a moron. She does not know the moon from mars, she is a joke in DC and a blithe on the face of this great state. This is a woman who thinks more of herself than anyone else does.

  15. Tim on August 10th, 2005 at 9:38 am

    OK, so we should be in awe of Bush’s lack of verbal abilities? Is he thinking too fast to remember how to pronounce “nuclear?”

    Look, Sheila is no genius herself (although I doubt she personally wrote the desert/dessert thing), but if it’s verbal missteps you want to look at, no one takes a back seat to our president. To insist that in one case, the party is an idiot, while in the other, it’s a sign of genius…do you think perhaps some personal bias has tainted your view?

    But on to the REALLY important things. I think Bush wears much sharper suits than most Democrats. Discuss.

  16. Ted on August 10th, 2005 at 9:49 am

    Kathi, If you read my posts you will note my point that all of us mangle the english language.
    The editors here do it often as do I. I just find it interesting that when someone of differing political ideology does it its worthy of an entire post. I have never seen such a post making fun of the President.
    Just for the record though, I belive the President and Ms. Lee both attended Yale. I will grant you that no one lacking in intellect gets into Yale. Well unless of course they are a “Legacy” with family connections. Hmmmmmm well there you go, so now we know how Bush did it, I guess Ms. Lee did it on Intellect.

  17. Tommy Vercetti on August 10th, 2005 at 9:58 am

    It’s a sad day in America when you you have someone in Congress who cannot spell, but it’a even a sadder day that I have to admit being on the same side of this issue as Sheila Jackson Lee. Having a bunch of federally funded untrained yahoos patrolling the border is not the cure for protecting our borders. Let the yahoos at the Minutemen Project fund their little fantasy camps with their own money. I would much rather see an increase in Border Patrol agents or have the National Guard patrolling the border.

  18. Mike M on August 10th, 2005 at 10:15 am

    The other possibility for Sheila’s admission to Yale could have been a scholarship based on ethnicity, or does that not happen at Yale?

    A misspelling of the word desert certainly doesn’t qualify her as an idiot; she has earned that title in numerous other ways.

  19. Kathi Smith on August 10th, 2005 at 1:57 pm

    While the president mangles the english language he does know his facts. Sheila has no idea whether we landed on the moon or mars in the 60’s. THAT is why she is a moron, not just based on some improperly edited piece. Face it, dem or rep that woman would still be an idiot!

  20. Don on August 10th, 2005 at 2:19 pm

    Ted, I’m going to guess you’ve never seen Congresswoman Jackson sit down with a live audience and answer questions. I know many KSEV listeners have (including one memorable day at the Taste of Texas years ago with several other congressional reps). Those who have seen her live and unscripted will tell you that her apparent intellect is invisible. Mispronouncing or misspelling a word is one thing. Using carnivorous in place of cavernous is another. Knowing the astronauts planted a flag on the moon is a far cry from thinking they planted one on Mars. When your district included NASA, it’s not a mistake you should make. But it’s like you saying you know all about war because you have read Sun Tzu, yet never endured the misery of day to day life in training, planning, or combat itself. By the way, if you go back and read Sun Tzu

    http://www.kimsoft.com/polwar.htm

    you will see that he does address many issues on war. In the modern parlance of war (post 18th century), we would refer to him as an amateur. Sun Tzu today would be considered an amateur because amateurs today study tactics….professionals study logistics. But beyond anything you may read in a book, the heart of a warrior is not within liberals. That’s why they whine and run when the going gets rough. You enjoy the fruits earned by the sweat and suffering of others…but you’ve never had the nerve to sacrifice yourself in the military to preserve the rights of even those who would speak against you. This is something that everybody who serves in the military does. Even though they loath liberals, they will defend with their life your rights to expound your nonsense. Liberals on the other hand will hide and run before they endanger their hides to preserve the rights of those who disagree with them.

  21. Tim on August 10th, 2005 at 2:45 pm

    Utter nonsense, your post!

    To suggest that the military is comprised of those who hate liberals is just wrong. Many liberals have served admirably in the armed forces, as have many conservatives.

    This type of over-generalization is exactly what is wrong with the posts of so many people on this board.

  22. sc on August 10th, 2005 at 2:56 pm

    When you take into account that a border patrol agent was found to be an illegal alien who was in turn smuggling more illegal aliens into the country, I think I’ll take armed Texans

  23. gregg on August 10th, 2005 at 3:31 pm

    A Mexican citizen gets a job as a US Border Patrol agent!Ha!Ha! My sides are hurting! Lets also be on the lookout for Saudi flight instructors teaching Arab men to fly jets!! Or Pakistani citizens working for the US DEA as a cocain inforcement agent!! Or Sheila Jackson Lee getting a job as a US Congresswoman! Oh wait, that happened.

  24. Tommy Vercetti on August 10th, 2005 at 3:43 pm

    Sheila, you have made me see the light.I don’t know what came over me to think that a bunch of fantasy camping yahoos aren’t going to be able to run more effective background checks than the U.S. Government.

    Get over it. That bill will NEVER become a law. It’s just a ploy by Tancredo and Culberson to get re-elected. Even if it does pass I’m 100% sure it will get vetoed by the White House.

  25. Ted on August 10th, 2005 at 7:54 pm

    Don, please explain you comments that Liberals do not have the “heart of a warrior” that we “whine and run when the going gets rough”
    Will you please explain that to Bob Kerrey, Navy seal/special forces. Vietnam Vet, congressional medal of honor winner. Lost a leg in battle. Democratic senator. Or how about Max Cleland, US Army. Bronze star recipiant, silver star recipiant. Lost both legs and right arm in battle. Democratic senator. These two come to mind. Please call them whiners and tell them that they ran when the going got tough.
    I have never nor will I ever be disrespectful of any veteran. I don’t care whether they are Democrat or Republican, Conservative or Liberal.

  26. Simple_Simon on August 11th, 2005 at 8:30 am

    Ted,

    You are right on target on this point. The folks at both extremes of the political spectrum have engaged in too much name calling for far too long. Time would be better spent trying to find agreement where possible instead of the bickering we see everywhere.

    The strength of this country is and I hope will always be that we are all Americans first. I have very little respect for the label-slingers.

    We should try to remember that most of the country identified themselves as Democrats when the nation marched off to WW-II. There were lines outside recruiting stations on 8 December 41. Even Ronald Reagan considered himself a Roosevelt Democrat at the time.

    Tides have an ebb and flow. The same is true for political parties and the leanings of the country. It is arrogant for any party to think they “own” the country, the Congress, or the Whitehouse.

    Simple is as simple does

  27. Don on August 11th, 2005 at 10:58 am

    How is it that he lost both legs and an arm in battle, yet still doesn’t have a purple heart?

  28. robert johnson (rj) on August 11th, 2005 at 11:02 am

    Bob Kerry, John Glenn and Max Cleveland being Democrat Politicians, may not be bona fide Liberals. They may not have even been a Democrat or a liberal during the time of their service to our Country. We have not seen a spectacle made by these two veterans concerning their Military Service. Self avowed liberals normally abhor the military and distance themselves from any associations with it, unless you are John Kerry. As noted in his thrashing at the polls in the Presidential election, is but one example of peoples opinion of using ones military service for political gain. This also affirms the distaste most Americans have for this type of behavior. John McCain, being a Republican can be added to the above mentioned three.
    rj

  29. Tom R. on August 11th, 2005 at 11:06 am

    Yeah Ted, you respect “all veterans” except GW and any other conservative politician on the George Soros hit list. Oh yeah, I forgot, GHWB got his kid a cush job flying F102s in the AF. But wait, then there was Algore’s daddy getting Algore a job flying an Underwood typewriter. Then again, what do you expect from somebody that flunked out of divinity school?

    BTW, I don’t know what you libs are so proud of. You people have saddled us with unbelievably wastful entitlements that have been bankrupt since day 1, just so the Dems could garner votes from those who are too lazy/ignorant to shut off Oprah and go get a job. When I think of all the retirement money I could have invested/saved based on the amount taken from me by gov SS, I just want to be sick! In case you didn’t know it, Ted, SS is a TAX and we get no tax credit whatsoever for having it confiscated. Yeah, thanks a lot libs! Don’t even get me started about Medicaid or SSI waste. Remember the “War on Poverty” Ted? You guys lost it a long time ago.

  30. Victor on August 11th, 2005 at 12:46 pm

    Don,

    I just want to make sure that I understood you correctly. You talk about liberals not having the heart of a warrior and that they run and hide.

    Are the liberals you are talking about named George Bush, Rush Limbaugh, and Matt Bramanti?

    They all seem to TALK pretty tough, but, alas, think they better serve their country over here where it is safe and sound.

    I’d say that there are a whole bunch of tough talkers on both sides of the political aisle these days, but, recruiting numbers suggest that there just aren’t enough people committed to the cause. So far in this war, the citizenry just isn’t worked up enough to go running to recruiting stations like they did in WWI and WWII.

    Maybe a bunch of people think that they are better serving their country here or, …, maybe they don’t believe that the way this war is being persued is worth it.

    BRAMANTI RESPONDS: Wow. I’m in the same league as a two-term president and the nation’s top radio host? Sweet.

  31. Ted on August 11th, 2005 at 1:45 pm

    RJ, again let me be clear. I am a PROUD LIBERAL. I have great respect for the miltary and those that serv. So much respect that I value their lifes and think military force should always be the last most thought out choice. You dis agree.
    And again please, please, tell me what your conservative values are.

  32. Don on August 11th, 2005 at 2:06 pm

    How about on at 8 AM on 3Sep05 we meet in KSEV’s parking lot and take a drive to San Antonio and pay a visit at Fort Sam Houston’s Brooke Medical Center Burn unit, and then go from there up to Fort Hood to the enlisted club. We’ll do a survey of the troops together and see what they think. It’s a long weekend, so it might be an overnight trip. I’ll spring for lunch and dinner for the three of us. We’ll have it on video so that nobody distorts what the results are. Any other KSEV/LST folks want to tag along? I’ll be surprised if you show. If you find more than 20% liberals amongst the troops, I’ll pay for your gas too.

  33. Ted on August 11th, 2005 at 2:41 pm

    Ok Don your on, if you will travel with me to meet Max Cleland, or Bob Kerry. You tell them to their face they are ‘gutless Liberals’ I will pay you air fare, your expenses. Let’s do it. Or maybe you would like to tell Paul Hackett, your Marine Brother he is gutless. I will pay all your expenses. Let’s do it.

  34. Victor on August 11th, 2005 at 2:47 pm

    Don,

    Sorry, I won’t be able to make it. I will be out of the Country, working with mostly non americans finding oil. I know that most people here are scared of anything outside of this country, but, some of us have to go and find the stuff that everyone puts in there cars. Otherwise that entire venture would be in the hands of the countries where the oil resides.

    Have a good trip though, and send the boys (and girls) my regards. And if you count more conservatives than liberals, good for you. I’ve been a life long conservative republican myself. But, I could really care less who any particular soldier votes for.

    It does sort of rub me the wrong way thought that some people that obviously aren’t brave enough to set foot outside this country in any real way talk so tough and are willing to send others to do their fighting for them.

    That’s why it amazes and saddens me that people here have allowed themselves to be lied to and manipulated so deeply just because a few scary arabs got lucky and pulled a sucker punch on us a few years ago.

    It’s also very depressing to watch the Republicans in power now spend us into deficits when only 6 years ago a Democrat had us with budget surpluses.

    It’s also disapointing that when our advisors tell us that WMD is a “slam dunk” and that we are going to be treated like “liberators” and that the war shouldn’t create too many casualties, and this turns out not to be the case, that no one is FIRED. Our we so blinded by our patriotism that we can’t hold anyone accountable for their mistakes?

    Shall we continue to blame “liberals” and the “MSM” and anyone else other than ourselves? Shall we continue to change the reasons for war as it suits us (very orwellian that)? Was it WMD or was is liberating Iraqis? Was it Freedom and Liberty or was it democratizing the zone? When their majority rules votes on Sharia Law are we going to be such fans of democracy over there? Will that enhance our national security? Is it a Global War on Terror or is it a Global Struggle against Extremism? I hope it turns out better than the War on Drugs. It seems that one is still being fought without much success.

    It makes me sad to think that this is what being a Republican Conservative has come to.

    Long live TRADITIONAL Republican Values. Fiscal Discipline, Honesty, Accountability, Forthrightness.

  35. Ted on August 11th, 2005 at 2:55 pm

    Better yet Don, I have 1000. 00 I will donate to the charity of your choice if you can show me anything I have said that is dis respectful toward or serviceman. I am sure you will make me the same offer…….ooops maybe not, cuz you called all Libs gutless ( Bob Kerry, Max Cleland,Paul Hackett…) No you will probably not make that offer to me will you. You might remember you ask me to go to Walter Reed I accepted you never responded.

  36. robert johnson (rj) on August 11th, 2005 at 3:46 pm

    We all value the lives of our Military men and women!
    By gosh military force normally is a last resort.
    At least Wodrow Wilson kept us neutral as long as possible before our entry into WW1
    Roosevelt, Gob bless his pea pickin heart, waited till after we were brutally attacked by Japan to declare War. Our shipping in the atlantic had been torpedoed by German U boats long before we were attacked in the pacific. Truman was reluctant to commit troops to Korea, but did eventually and then fired his top General because he wanted to soundly defeat North Korea and push Chinese troops back to Mongolia.
    Kennedy reluctantly used the threat our military power to rid Cuba of Russian missiles. Johnson took his time to escalate the troop strength in SE Asia. Clinton finally bombed Bosnia back into the stone age after thousands of people were slaughtered in ethnic cleansing and Bush 41 waited to rid Kuwait of Sadam after he had a majority of UN support. Bush 43 finally invaded Iraq after we were again brutally attacked and not then until how many UN resolutions against Sadam failed.
    All this to say that the use of our Military might has always been as a last resort begining with The Revolution
    Our Military might makes it possible for
    the Lib’s in this country to openly say how proud they are. Even Micheal Moore is safe.
    rj

  37. Jim B on August 11th, 2005 at 4:00 pm

    The reason, in my opinion, that Clinton presided over budget surpluses is that we had a Democrat in the White House and a Republican Congress. The resulting gridlock ironically saved us billions. The lesson? The less the government gets involved in and wastes our money on, the better.

    I will continue to support President Bush over ANY choice the Democratic party can offer, but I don’t support unrestrained government spending (one of the follies that the Republicans think they have the ‘political capital’ to get away with).

    Bottom line: they’re ALL politicians, Democrat OR Republican, and therefore are not to be trusted - they still need to be held accountable to the people (which is, after all, the source of government’s power in the US).

  38. Ted on August 11th, 2005 at 4:08 pm

    RJ, I think the military makes it possible for all of us Dem or Repub Liberal or conservative. Michael Moore or Rush Limbaugh to be proud.
    Again, you said you were proud of your conservative values. Please, Please, tell me what those values are. Maybe some one her can please help poor RJ.

  39. Don on August 11th, 2005 at 4:09 pm

    Ted - I never said you said anything disrespectful of the troops - overtly. Most of you liberals are smarter than that, although I have several pages of copy at home from AOL where liberals are calling the military in this war baby killers, running concentration camps, stupid for joining, etc. You are entitled to your view on the war. However, supporting them and the mission would go a lot further to helping them defeat the terrorists.

    San Antonio and Killeen are a lot closer. If you’re still not satisfied after visiting those two facilities that today’s military loathes liberals, then we’ll go to Walter Reed and Bethesda.

  40. Ted on August 11th, 2005 at 4:16 pm

    Jim, so according to your assement the budget surplus is due to gridlock. Did I get that right. Please then explain the job creation under Clinton. Or how about the trade deficit. Or maybe the stock market run.

  41. Ted on August 11th, 2005 at 4:31 pm

    Don how bout my offer to you on Cleland,Kerry, or Hacket. I told you I will Pay ALL your expenses. I will make contact with who ever you choose, you tell them to their face they are ‘Gutless’. Hell Don I will pay first class airfare for you.

  42. Don on August 11th, 2005 at 4:56 pm

    Ted, when do we go? All expenses paid to visit Bethesda and Walter Reed? I can do that. Please give your last name and contact info to Bramanti so I can contact you directly and we can make the arrangements. You name the date, hotel, etc. where we’re going to stay. We can leave on Friday night and return Sunday.

  43. Ted on August 11th, 2005 at 5:17 pm

    Nice try Don, though you did title your response well. Let try again. You pick, Kerry, Cleleand or Hacket ( I hope you pick Hackett).
    You walk up to either of them, tell them to their face they are gutless. I will pay for the trip. I will be happy tomake arrangements with LST. So who will it be Don ‘ol boy.

  44. Jim B on August 11th, 2005 at 5:26 pm

    OK - I have seen some of the extended arguments you have become engaged in with others on this message board, and won’t get into too many back-and-forth posts with you, but I will post my opinions on a couple of your points.

    The job creation and stock market run-up under Clinton were largely due to the dot-com boom and stock market bubble going on at the time. I am no economist, but in my view economic cycles take years to develop, and the current sitting President usually gets the benefit (or takes the blame) for the current economic conditions. In other words, Clinton presided over a stock market boom/bubble and the high times that went with it, and he gained the benefit in terms of popularity. Conversely, Bush 43 is presiding over tougher, more realistic, economic times where the bubble has burst and reality has crashed in.

    There are a number of reasons these economic cycles happen. The President in office at the time has only a little direct influence over the present economy. Many of the Bush Administration’s economic policies won’t have a remarkable effect on the economy for years. I believe that some of Clinton’s economic policies are coming to fruition now and biting Bush in the butt, so to speak. Clinton, on the other hand, reaped the benefits of the Reagan and Bush 41’s administation policies.

    Also, don’t forget the role of Congress (all that pork has to come from somewhere) and the free market in our economy, as well. Both of these institutions have more sway over the economy than does any single President.

    I don’t think for a moment that the gridlock between Clinton and the Congress of the time was 100% responsible for the budget surplus, but having that gridlock probably did contribute, and like I said, it’s a bit of poetic justice in that the government was able to do less a the time due to some of that gridlock. Call me jaded, but any time the government does/spends less is fine with me. They tend to screw things up, not matter what side of the aisle they sit on.

    I don’t have the answers for our trade deficit, but neither do Clinton, Bush, Kennedy, Al Gore, or any other Republican or Democrat. They’re too busy being politicians. It seems that ALL politicians want to grow the government way too much and spend too much of your and my money wastefully.

    Finally, I am not a blind Bush supporter, as he’s made plenty of mistakes in his Presidency, but he’s better than the alternatives available, so we’ll have to work with what we have…

  45. Don on August 11th, 2005 at 5:26 pm

    Ted, since I’ve agree to go on your trip to D.C., why don’t you go on my trip too? That way we can have two surveys of the troops and get a real good sampling of how the troops view conservatives versus liberals. We’ll publish the results of our findings on LST. What do you say?

  46. Don on August 11th, 2005 at 5:44 pm

    Ted - We’re going to visit the troops and find out how they really feel. Leave your other nonsense out. Do you want to find out how the majority of our warriors feel about this war, or do you want to weasel? I’m going to BMAC and Fort Hood. The results will be forwarded to LST. It won’t matter to me if you believe them or not. The folks who did serve will know.

  47. Ted on August 11th, 2005 at 6:13 pm

    Well Don its clear you are all talk. It is easy for you to call all libs gutless when you enjoy the cover of this blog. Faced with the chance to call any one of the Lib war heroes gutless you cower. I don’t give a damn if the soldiers are Liberal or conservative. They can vote for who ever they please. You are the one that made the idiotic statement that Liberals ran when the going got tough. You also said we were all gutless. Only you won’t say it to our face.
    Just as before your arguments are weak and tired. Only thing new is we know who you are.

  48. Ted on August 11th, 2005 at 7:44 pm

    Jim, I agree. We could go back and forth for days. But you will have to agree. Conservatives have had control of all branches of govt. since 2000. Spending is out of control, deficits have exploded and the trade imbalance is huge. Federal debt is at it highest level ever.
    I have said before I am a liberal. But when it comes to spending I am conservative. I invest in stocks, I own or have interests in small business. I have real estate and rental properties. I believe that controlled spending is the bedrock of a solid economy. I don’t see that from the “new”conservative.
    On this I agree with Mr. Bramanti.

  49. Ted on August 11th, 2005 at 8:13 pm

    Why not do something productive if you visit the troops ? Who cares what "stripe" they are.
    Take those in the burn ward books, cds, things they can use. I am glad to offer my contribution. Match me Don, I will offer 100.00 in books or cds or dvds, you do the same, maybe others here will as well. If you want to go visit the troops do some good.

    BRAMANTI RESPONDS: Great idea. Count me in.

  50. Tim on August 11th, 2005 at 10:03 pm

    Your tone seems to have changed quite a bit from your early premise. Your initial contention was that everyone who joins the military loathes liberals, and that liberals were too gutless to stand up and defend their country. Now, it’s that if we look at people currently in the military, they would support the war and would favor conservatives. This is fairly logical, since you would be likely to find widespread support for the Iraqi war from those who volunteered to fight it. And that having been said, most of them probably disagree with those who oppose the war.

    Your initial point is really where you got off track, stating that all liberals are gutless, and those who join the military are all liberal-haters.

    Ted’s challenge in this case is far more on-point than yours. He’s showing you three highly prominant liberals and asking you to back up your words. Look them in the eye and tell them they are gutless. Tell them they ran and hid in war.

    If your point is that people who volunteered for the Iraq war support it, and by extension the party that is most supportive of the war, you are correct. But if your point is that all liberals are gutless and won’t fight when needed, Ted has amply proven you wrong there. Many liberals do not believe in THIS war. But liberals and conservatives alike have stood up and fought side by side at many points in our history.

  51. Ted on August 12th, 2005 at 7:10 am

    So you agree with my idea of sending Don packing with CDs DVDs etc. Jeeeez come on…. That makes twice in one week we agree. Would you stop please………… sorry I was ducking damn pig flew by and almost hit me.

  52. Don on August 12th, 2005 at 9:18 am

    I’ve been making visits to these wards long before this war or the last one. I know what to bring and what not to bring. I could care less about a few self serving politicians. Come with us to talk to the men and women who are not the politicians. Ask them what they think. All I’m asking is you come and give them a hearing. If the vast majority of the troops feel this is a good mission and we are getting the job done, wouldn’t that mean something to you? Maybe they’ll change your mind.

  53. Ted on August 12th, 2005 at 11:43 am

    Don, I am I feel truly sorry for you. My offer to you was sincere that if you were going to see the troops in the Burn ward to take them something from myself and the other LST readers. Bramanti agreed to pitch in too. Your response “I know what to take and what not to take”. I hoped that we might find some common ground in providing something for those that gave so much. I will make a donation in your name in the hopes that you might one day find peace. Don we may disagree, but we are all citizens of this country. A country that used to value the right of free speech and disagreement. I hope one day you might share that value and lose the hatred you feel for those that don’t share your beliefs.

  54. Don on August 12th, 2005 at 2:07 pm

    Ted, don’t talk about it. Join us. Bring what you want and come along. Then tell them your views and let them express their views to you. That’s not asking too much is it?

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