This is what they do to 8-year-olds who steal bread in Iran. [WARNING: Disturbing photos.]
[Hat-tip: Lou Minatti]
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Sad thing is, these are the people our young men and women are dying for. Bring our troops home. Let these animals kill each other for another 4000 years. Hell with them.
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Isn’t it amazing how different our responses are to such a horrible act? My first response was to help the boy and Gregg just wants to abandon him to the mercies of the Rev Guards.
BTW, these are the people our guys are fighting in IRAQ, to try to bring freedom and civilization to that part of the world. This and worse was what existed when Sadamm was in power. (Remember the rape rooms, the Abu Grahib before the panty pics?)
Gregg your solution was exposed as worthless on 9-11. sorry.
JDH
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It’s news to me that we’re fighting for Iranians, gregg.
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DLP,
This is Islam baby. As soon as we leave Iraq this is what you will get. BTW its coming to a city near you. Get your prayer rugs wholesale on Harwin. Mecca is thataway!!!
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gregg,
they won’t stop at killing their children..their leader is a maniac who wants to annihilate all jews and who do you think will be next?
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My solution is to make that place glass. Whats your solution? Fight them cave to cave for the next 20 years?
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This is the problem that divides this great nation of ours. These people are subhuman and the discussions are varied. Both sides are right to an extent. We either fight on their turf or on ours. Frankly I don’t my grandchildren growing up with bombs and missiles being fired on them so perhaps I’m only thinking of myself, sorry. Our troops are committed and we need to level Iraq soon. Other nations view us as scoundrels anyway.
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Those pictures do lend credence to the idea of turning the desert to glass. Eventually these people will have to be handled. Hopfully from inside.
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Yeah Gregg let’s bring our troops home. That way they will be here when that vermin re-start their crap on our shores. Then what? Are we gonna turn our homeland into a glass parking lot too?
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If we do that we only justify their hatred of western culture. As appealing as it sounds to just wipe Muslims off the face of the earth [to preserve American life] it is certainly not a Christian nor an American solution.
Like DLP said, when I look at that picture, my reaction was to help the boy, not blow him up. Gregg, I agree that it absolutely sucks to have lost even a single American life, but Americans’ willingness to help the victims of Muslim oppression (even if said victims are Muslim) is what separates us from terrorists. If we lose that distinction, then we might as well give up and surrender our society to their mindset.
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Gregg,
You sound like someone who has no clue. “Turn the whole place into glass” How many nukes would that take? What whole place are you talking about? Iran, Iraq, the Middle East? All Muslim countries? Maybe we could just nuke the general area and then send out death squads for the residue.
Sounds like too much Savage to me.
JDH
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Poor little boy! I pray for him and hope that some day he will grow up to lead his people out of such stupidity. Or at least get to see these asshats that did this to him tortured to hell, where they belong.
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Charming sequence of photos…
I am sure there is a special place in hell for this guy who hurt that child.
While I am not sure preventing this is why are troops are dying, I want to beleive that our troops are the ARMED division of Amnesty International or UNICEF and things like this (torture) will be dealt with appropriatly and ruthlessly…
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What was the guy in the photo holding in his hands?
…it appears as though there was a wire going from his hands to the car…
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#14,
I wondered that too. I think he’s holding a microphone, presumably to narrate the horror of what’s happening. Also notable is the number of people just standing by in the first shot, not doing anything to stop this insanity.
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‘Glass’ or not is debateable, however, we can start by purging these cultists from the US of A. The first rule to winning is to recognize your enemy! If you draw a line you are not willing to cross to win, that is exactly where you will lose.
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Anyone who would do that to a child is not human and should not be treated as such.
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ok gregg, lets pack up and go home; so we can be more like austrailia where they have adopted seperate manuals for dealing with other cultures that actually enables muslims to beat thier women in the year 2005.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20034
either islam needs to reform or we need to pen them in. beliefs like these are no longer welcome !
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I thought Austrailia had more brains than that. That is pretty sick.
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You’ll never defeat an enemy by being more ruthless than he. You’ll just spawn more like minded people. If you want lasting peace you must change hearts and minds. I know that sounds pacifistic, but it’s the only true way.
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sick…
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Somebody on the forum that these photos were posted said this is a staged event for money. Like street peddlers. Still sick, but not punishment. They’re like street performers and this is their act. That’s what someone in the forum said.
Sounds believable to me. I despise Islam (I slam Islam) but lets get the facts straight.
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Did we try to change the minds of the Japanese,Germans? No we kicked their ass until they gave up. If it takes killing all these bastards then so be it. They want to kill you and your family and they are coming to a mosque near you.
The 9-11 pieces of excriment had bbq with their neighbors before killing 3000 Americans. You could be living next to one now and think he is your friend. When he gets the call to arms he will cut your kids head off right in front of you without blinking an eye.
All these dirt bags know is the use of force. GWB has played nice and 2000+ families have no father,son,mother.
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By the way, Willie, you’re wrong about not defeating an enemy by being more ruthless. Ever hear of Japan? We kicked their asses and were very ruthless. Thank God we were. And now look, they went from a nation of warlords to a bunch of pacifists whose main export is electronics and porn.
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You guys are wrong about the Germans and the Japanese. If we had retaliated in kind then we would have tortured and starved their POW’s (which we did not do). We treated them humanely, as we should have. If you read some accounts written by Japanese (and German) servicemen, they were astonished that we treated them so well when they expected us to kill or maim them. I would suggest that’s why the post-war occupation/reconstruction of Japan and Germany went so well.
It’s one thing to kick some butt in a war environment (as we should), but to suggest some of the things listed above is not the American ideal. It’s not what we’re about. Since when has America used al-Qaeda as a measuring stick for how we treat others?
By the by…your way of thinking is really working for the Israelis. They kill one and create ten more Palestinian terrorists to take their place.
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Willie
The point is that the United States won those wars because they devasted their enemies. They broke the enemies will to fight by destroying their cities, towns and families. That is what war is. No we did not abuse prisoners (to my knowledge) but we did break their will to fight.
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Wilie,
the Israelis would have taken care of these people if we would have let them.
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Instead of just looking at the pictures ya’ll should have read the comments from the blog as well. This was a staged event and I do not believe anyone real or ficticious was injured. Don’t be so gullible, check facts and get story straight.
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Squawk:
As well we should have. You’re missing my point.
While we should utterly and totally defeat their army on the field of battle, we cannot give in to a sense of vengeance or sentiments like those expressed in #12 and #17.
That’s not the America that I fought for and not one that I would die for.
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The photo is disturbing, no doubt, but the boy is not being punished. He has been trained to display his courage in public which provides a source of income to his trainers.
He probably does this trick every day which is no different than some body tries to cut a thick board with his bare hand on TV in front of an audience.
Now it is established that the boy is in no harm we can all go home, relax and repent for bad mouthing Iranians.
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Willie - If I remember correctly, though, the Japanese didn’t surrender (and probably would not have) until we dropped 2 nukes over their cities. That goes beyond kicking their ass on the battlefield, but not quite to the point of turning the desert to glass. Unfortunately, the balance betweek kicking the ass of radical Islam and winning the hearts and minds of the not-so-radical will be extremely difficult.
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Rahman:
I doubt there will be much repentence expressed.
The War on Terror is slowly turning us into those who we despise.
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jimb:
You’re correct but at the time we nuked Japan, we really had no idea of what we were unleashing. I believe that’s why we haven’t used them since. I also agree that it might be difficult (to win hearts and minds), but we are America. When have we ever shirked at accepting a difficult task?
As Vietnam proved, you’ve gotta have more than a superior army. You gotta be on the “right” side in what you’re doing as well.
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Willie
Emotions do run deep don’t they? Can’t say I disagree with you, but I do understand their emotion. Tuff call.
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Squawk:
Of course, it goes without saying. And you’re right, it is a very tough call.
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Maybe we ought to concentrate on taking care of the problems we have here before we impose our beliefs and policies on others. Our murder rate is thru the roof, as are rapes and other violent crimes. Child and spousal abuse are on the rise. Abortion is legal. The dropout rate is insane. People are starving in our streets. We can’t even respond properly to a natural disaster.
I could go on and on. But get in your SUV’s tomorrow, talk on your cellphones, watch that digital cable, and have a great dinner at that restaurant. Oh, and don’t forget to check your portfolio. Life is great.
You wonder why I shake my head.
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jimb, I suggest you brush up on U.S. History. We knew exactly the type of destruction we’d cause in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Why haven’t we used nukes since? Simple: we’re no longer the only ones with nukes. The “fallout” (pun intended) from using nukes today is much different.
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My family extends back through a long and noble line of Persian-Jewish rug traders. My father came to America from Iran back in the late 1950’s. Most of my relatives escaped the revolution of 1979 and now either live in Israel or L.A., pay their taxes, etc.
A few years back, my dad– who had never returned to Iran– decided he was going to take one last trip to see his childhood home before he retired (and was then on a budget that wouldn’t allow such travel).
So this 62 year old American Jew, post-9/11, takes a several month trip through the Iranian countryside. I think neither the Iranian nor the American authorities ever bothered him about it because it just seemed too idiotic to believe.
Anyway, my dad saw with his own eyes the “religious police” in Tehran grab a man who they considered “guilty” of something and whip him mercilessly in the middle of a crowded downtown intersection.
If the pictures linked to in this post happen to be some freaky Persian street theatre, so be it… but the public cruelty is very, very real.
FWIW, the VAST majority of the Iranian people are very pro-American and loath the Mullah regime.
BTW, a good blog to follow these issues is http://www.regimechangeiran.com/
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#37 - Willie was the one who suggested that we didn’t know what we would be unleashing on Japan. We probably knew exactly what we were unleashing on them. We did that to put an end to the war at the time, probably to avoid a bloody invasion of the Japanese mainland and keep the political upper hand against the Soviets…
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Sorry jimb, my bad.
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The Christians did just as deplorable things as this during the Inquisition. It’s called religious growing pains. The muslims are just a little behind the Christians on the learning curve. That’s their law right now, as is stoning, as was the burning witches for Christians years ago. They’ll grow up to become good religion too.
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#41,
Which again points to the idea that the problem is not with Muslims directly, but rather the theocracies they live in. If America was a Christian theocracy, I suspect we wouldn’t be a whole lot better than terrorists ourselves.
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Mohammed is correct as the tire never stopped moving and the towel with inflated tire underneath absorbed the shock, notice the child’s face is not shown. If you have seen the picture of the stonings you will see a different picture but then those were women.
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Thats what I love about photography and photoshop (computer software) everything can be skewed…
Wonder where the truth is in all this photography?
By the way the Germans gave up becuase they had something to lose and where losing it. We probably nuked Japan becuase there was not a lot for us to care up (in terms of radiation) in that part of the world.. Sad but true…
The terrorists ahve nothign to lose and everythign to gain and religion is stronger then politics. This is why they will be a hard enemy to defeat. We either have to commit genocide or simply take a more pacifist role and try to change their hearts and minds…
Sometimes daisies are better then daisy cutters…
NAHHHHHH — Nuke ‘em till they glow GWB
* can you detect my level of sarcasm *
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How about daisy cutters and THEN daisies?
We need to isolate the actual terrorists in Iraq and drop the cutters. Then plant the daisy seeds among the majority of peaceful Iraqis.
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#45 I would be all in favor of that…
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