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  1. Michael on November 23rd, 2005 at 10:37 am

    I am so glad I am an Aggie today. Not so much on Friday probably. But today, I can point my evil, oppressive finger at those silly liberals at t.u. and say, “We wouldn’t stand for that crap in College Station.”

  2. Wil Barnes on November 23rd, 2005 at 10:56 am

    “That crap” happens in many classes at A&M. In fact the Young Conservatives organized on campus several years ago to warn rightist students which professors’ classes to avoid.

    But I have good news: Aggies in CS are too busy figuring out ways to violate laws on outdoor burning in Brazos County and are probably not being tainted by those “liberal” opinions which can only be heard by going to class.

  3. Gary on November 23rd, 2005 at 11:01 am

    It’s survival of the fittest! It is easy to throw around numbers and percentages some 300 years later. The genocide theory gets skewed however while white supremacists sit atop a stool, stuffing their hard earned money into a slot machine in a Indian owned reservation casino. Who’s the ultimate winner 300 years later? I love capitalism!

  4. Mike Martin on November 23rd, 2005 at 11:14 am

    …and are probably not being tainted by those “liberal” opinions which can only be heard by going to class.

    It might be a bit more palatable to “conservative” students if those “opinions” weren’t presented as fact by the same guy who has the power to adversely affect their GPA.

  5. summers713 on November 23rd, 2005 at 11:15 am

    First Christmas, next Thanksgiving?? He and his companiions can all rot in h***! I’m sick and tired of these revisenist. I’m wishing anyone and everyone a happy Thanksgiving, and a very merry Christmas, hope you all do the same. Heaven forbid you hurt some atheist’s feelings. They, the communist-socialist-liberal-democrats, will not be happy until we are a Godless country, which they rule, not govern.
    Ron
    Cypress, TX

  6. Unfair Tax on November 23rd, 2005 at 11:35 am

    Unfortunately this guys follower were dopeheads, HIV candidates or 60’s style hippies strung out on alot of BS - which died off years ago and he is trying to get a whole new group of followers.

  7. Kramerica on November 23rd, 2005 at 12:09 pm

    This guy’s a complete nut job and the Chronicle is equally nuts for consistently printing everything that dribbles from his brain. Checking out the books he’s written (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-6564855-9572654) especially the one entitled “Writing Dissent” and it’s clear this guy just LOVES pissing people off for the fun of it.

  8. Rahman on November 23rd, 2005 at 12:11 pm

    Is there no one left here to be tolerant towards others with a diverse point of view?
    I never knew Republicans were this narrow minded.They leave absolutely no room for a civilized debate, it is either our way or highway.
    Talk about Talibans.

  9. gregg on November 23rd, 2005 at 12:15 pm

    We dont have to worry about Thanksgiving much longer. Once we are taken over by the peacefull religion of Islam, instead of feasting on turkeys we will walk around chanting, take boards and beat ourselves till we bleed. Then put on bomber vests and blow ourselves up for grins and giggles.

  10. Willie on November 23rd, 2005 at 12:18 pm

    As with any demagogue, there is a kernel of truth hidden in the hate.
    Whether you will admit it or not, we did kill off the people that were here before us. If the Indians had it to do over again, I’m sure they wish they would have slaughtered the Europeans as soon as they set foot on North American soil, rather than helping them survive. Then it might be the white men running the casinos. Who knows?

  11. Willie on November 23rd, 2005 at 12:24 pm

    Oh, and by the way…Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
    :-)

  12. Mike Martin on November 23rd, 2005 at 12:28 pm

    Happy Thanksgiving, Willie!

  13. squawkbox on November 23rd, 2005 at 1:00 pm

    Happy Thanksgiving, ALL from your humble moderator.
    Squawkie

  14. Matt Bramanti on November 23rd, 2005 at 1:07 pm

    #10: They tried to slaughter the Europeans. They lost. C’est la vie.

  15. Willie on November 23rd, 2005 at 1:12 pm

    #14) Or not, as the case may be.

  16. TheRipper on November 23rd, 2005 at 1:25 pm

    Once again we’re subjected to the self-loathing musings of Prof. Jensen. This guy is a complete loon. I can’t believe UT can’t (or won’t) get rid of him.

    Yeah, we killed the “merciless Indian Savages”, and the world is better off for it. They ruled the continent for hundreds of years, and look how far they came. They even made use of rudimentary stone tools!! If the Europeans hadn’t come over, who knows, they may have entered the bronze age by now.

    #8 - For someone so liberal-minded, you don’t seem to be very tolerant. You and Jensen have your opinions, and we have ours. What’s not diverse about that? By the way, been over at DU lately? There as some over there who are so tolerant, they’re talking about civil war to silence the opposition.

  17. SimpleSimon on November 23rd, 2005 at 1:38 pm

    Why should the conservatives have a monopoly on all the wack jobs? The left must keep up appearances.

    Simple

  18. Mike Martin on November 23rd, 2005 at 1:45 pm

    Hey Simple,

    We’ll give you Pat Robertson if you give us Michael Moore. Let’s make a deal!

  19. cameraguy on November 23rd, 2005 at 1:54 pm

    I’d love to send this professor back in a time machine and then hear him scream like a little girl when an Apache Dog Soldier scalps his brain.

    Hey, Rahman #8 - If this was 1942, I would be extremely intolerant of Adolf Hitler. Does that make me a bad person?

  20. sargevining on November 23rd, 2005 at 2:16 pm

    The real tragedy here is that the good professor is protected by tenure and we can’t bounce his ass to California.

    At the time of Colinization, there was still plenty of land for eveybody involved. The early whitemen desired trade most of all, and initially engaged in it with the Native Americans to the benefit of both societies.

    The true problems between Native Americans and white men began when they started allying themselves with European nations during times of European wars. There’s as reason why we in the United States call it “The French and Indian War.” Later on, the Civilized Tribes in the North and others in the South allied themselves with the British in our Revolution.

    Factor in also the method by which these tribes engaged in warfare, generally it was no quarter and guerilla style, prey on the weak and unprotected, rather than engaging stronger forces, and you end up with some real bad PR amongst people trying to eke out an existence on a frontier.

  21. gregg on November 23rd, 2005 at 2:42 pm

    In a way all these holidays have become nothing but days to go buy a bunch of crap and make the retailers money.

    Thanksgiving is the time to buy food and eat till you fall asleep.

    Halloween is the time to buy tons of candy and give them away.

    Christmas is the time to spend all your money on crap made in a communist country. China

    The only true holiday is secretaries day. That is a day to get your secretary something to buy her silence on your incompetence for another year.

  22. Willie on November 23rd, 2005 at 2:55 pm

    #21) Once again Gregg, you have cut to the essence.

    The Internet can be a wonderful tool, but it does expose you to “ideas” that you thought were outdated.
    To quote #16:
    “Yeah, we killed the “merciless Indian Savages”, and the world is better off for it”.
    Damn, it’s thoughts like this that pull me towards being a misanthrope, but I refuse to abandon hope.

  23. Kramerica on November 23rd, 2005 at 3:10 pm

    Hey, Rahman, how are we being intolerant? He has his constitutionally guaranteed right to his free speech and I have mine to disagree with him. It’s give and take, Rahman. If by being “tolerant”, you mean I’m supposed to take his crap lying down, you’re wrong. He has the right to say whatever he wants and we have the right to respond. I didn’t read in his screed where he was tolerant of OUR point of view. Is he equally intolerant in your eyes, then?

  24. Kramerica on November 23rd, 2005 at 3:12 pm

    another thing Rahman that I forgot. Don’t assume everyone here is a Republican. I’m a conservative and I’ll vote for whomever best represents that ideology, donkey, elephant or otherwise.

  25. MAV on November 23rd, 2005 at 3:37 pm

    Most people in this nation can’t stand these sick, narrow-minded, boring snnobbbbs like Jensen, so they don’t ever get invited to anyone’s home for Thanksgiving or Christmas. They are so jealous they have to attack the holiday.

    #8 and the rest of you liberals. You will not grasp this, but Conservatives know what truth is. Real truth is black and white, not all wishy-washy and shaded in gray like you think it is. Truth is truth it’s not open for debate because it is truth. That’s why you think we are narrow-minded. You are the ones who are narrow-minded, because you refuse to see, believe and grasp truth.

  26. neocon on November 23rd, 2005 at 5:15 pm

    #25 - Spot On!

  27. Willie on November 23rd, 2005 at 5:23 pm

    #25) The “truth” as you see it.
    Concerning the Native Americans:
    You see the “truth” being America’s Manifest Destiny and the “civilization” of the natives.
    The natives see the “truth” as cultural and racial genocide.

    Which is black and which is white?

  28. gregg on November 23rd, 2005 at 5:38 pm
  29. beach_bum on November 23rd, 2005 at 8:49 pm

    I dont know if ragging on these whacko liberal profs and columnists is such a good idea or not. They could go get gainful employment or run for public office where they would be in a position to implement their whacko agenda!

    /me faints dead away

    Regards,
    Beach_Bum

  30. careysnyder on November 23rd, 2005 at 10:56 pm

    Now I don’t know if you want to do this, but from the utexas.edu website, specifically from: http://www.utexas.edu/directory/index.php?q=jensen&scope=all&i=10 (faculty and staff directory)

    Name: Robert W Jensen
    E-mail: rjensen@mail.utexas.edu
    Title: Associate Professor, PHD
    College/Department: Department of Journalism, College of Communication
    Office Phone: +1 512 471 1990

    Office Location: CMA 5.134D

    Office Address:
    The University of Texas at Austin
    Department of Journalism, College of Communication
    1 University Station A1000
    Austin TX 78712
    Campus Mail Code: A1000

    Home Phone: +1 512 371 9327

    Home Address: 4209 BURNET RD #204
    AUSTIN TX 78756

    Just in case any of your readers wished to advise him, or the head of UT, that Dr. Jensen is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot. Perhaps having a kook like him teaching the journalism students will start driving them back to the right. Every college has to have its own flaming idiot - remember Jean Claude DeBremaker (sp?) at Rice? - always had some radical comment to make…perhaps tenure causes stupidity.

    Comment 29[beach bum] may have a point - what damage can these guys do at the college…just be afraid if they run for office. That reminds me - I must thank one of my alma maters (Rice) for hiring Lee(period) P(period) Brown to teach about government and thereby keeping him from running for another office. Maybe they can hire Ronnie Earle.

  31. jimb on November 24th, 2005 at 12:09 am

    #27 - No matter how you see it, Dr. Jensen’s rant was as hate-filled and borderline insane as I have seen in a while.

  32. jil on November 24th, 2005 at 12:30 am

    Mike Martin- You have to at least give Pat Robertson credit-he has morals. Michael Moore does not even know how to spell the word, much less have any, morals that is! And Rahman, if you are not happy with America, there are plenty of other countries you can choose from in which to live. I would be willing to bet you could take up a collection for air fare, and not have a problem receiving enough money to make it happen.

    Willie-you seem to have some knowledge of history, who was it that said,”I can rule the world with 26 tin letters.”

    perhaps we should all think about this- and I wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas, and May God Bless you and yours, and America too.

  33. Mike Smith on November 24th, 2005 at 5:19 am

    Ok, folks… Give Jensen some credit.

    He is providing more proof that journalism is the dumbest profession on this planet. And his presence on campus as a teacher helps explain why journalism is the dumbest profession on the planet. His comments are “lunatic” stupid and oozing in “feelings” with no basis in “fact”. Folks, that is true journalism {as practiced in today’s world}!

    Thanks, Jensen. Your words have done the citizens of our Nation a favor {one more nail in the coffin that used to be journalism}.

  34. Willie on November 24th, 2005 at 7:13 am

    #31) jimb:
    I agree, see the first sentence in posting #10.

    Happy Thanksgiving to all.

  35. publius on November 24th, 2005 at 11:57 am

    Jensen was interviewed yesterday on the Michael Medved radio show. A caller asked, “To whom are we to offer atonement?” Jensen said to the “Spirit of Truth, or perhaps the ancestors of our indigenous peoples”. At the same time he admitted he is an atheist. So it seems this atheist wants us to offer atonement to either some metaphysical concept he holds; or to people who are dead and have no consciousness, nor any possible awareness of the act. He was also asked why, if he is so critical of the US, he does not move elsewhere. He replied he had a “moral duty” to stay and state his opinions; which I took to mean:”Hey, leave the pleasures and amenities of Austin, and give up my salary paid for by the descendants of those horrible European exploiters? Are you crazy? Besides, I am fully vested in the sweet, sweet pension plan paid for by the citizens of Texas.” Have a Happy Atonement Day. Eats lots of food in memory of those hunter/gatherers who preceded us.

  36. Maltboy! on November 24th, 2005 at 5:41 pm

    I have no control over what happened 200 years ago, nor would I assume to truly understand the motivations and mindset of a people whose reality was so different than ours. Each and every day for these people was a fight for survival. Nature and the Native Americans were relentless and unforgiving. One misstep could mean disaster, and death was always knocking. It was a barbaric time for sure, but that’s the way it was – survival of the fittest. But, from the comfort of his easy chair in an air-conditioned office, Mr. Jensen has the audacity to assume he has the moral authority and divine insight to know these peoples’ motivations were simply to advance the white race. This is pure anal seepage, straight from the source. Jensen, who ironically is a shameless lackey for the race he so hates, hands his judgment down based on the values of an arrogant fool who has never faced the kind of real adversity these people lived on a continuous basis. Since he claims he has a duty to expose exploitation of oppressed people, I look forward to his editorial pieces pointing out the hypocrisy we promote through our teachings on Kwanzaa
    http://www.martinlutherking.org/kwanzaa.html
    the Crusades
    http://www.crisismagazine.com/april2002/cover.htm , and slavery
    http://home.ddc.net/ygg/ot/ot-07.htm .
    What is obvious about his intentions is that he is less interested about promoting truth than making sure he keeps the blood of hatred flowing – it’s the only way a parasite like Mr. Jensen knows how to get fed.

  37. Mike Smith on November 25th, 2005 at 5:06 am

    Hey, maybe we could use him to expose the tax exploitation being allowed by the State of Texas, the local tax entities, and the appraisal districts against the suppressed home owners in our State….

    Yea…. Right….. /s

  38. Matt Bramanti on November 25th, 2005 at 1:34 pm

    I can only speak for myself, but I’ve never killed an Indian. I’ve never even hit an Indian. Hell, I’ve never even given a dirty look to an Indian.

  39. Maltboy! on November 25th, 2005 at 4:32 pm

    I once got a dirty look from an Indian. He was okay after I paid him $2 to let me take his picture. I guess that story I heard about cameras stealing their soul was a myth. Either that or he decided to sell out. It happens to everyone sooner or later.

  40. gregg on November 25th, 2005 at 6:21 pm

    The only real Indian I’ve ever seen was at the casino in Wisconsin. I think his name was Chief Makinsomebigmoney.

  41. Mike Martin on November 26th, 2005 at 9:15 am

    I chewed out a guy from India one time. I felt bad about it afterwards though.

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