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  1. gregg on November 26th, 2005 at 10:56 am

    Look on the bright side. At least they didnt blow themselves up damaging the Crown Royal on the top shelf.
    GWB lied and whisky bottles died! No blood for Captain Morgan!

  2. squawkbox on November 26th, 2005 at 10:59 am

    WHOA talk about alcohol abuse!!!!

  3. gregg on November 26th, 2005 at 11:20 am

    BTW,is it legal for a 17 year old to work in a liquor store? Muslims selling booze! LMAO. Next you will tell me they are opening up a Logan Farms franchise.Those crazy Muslims. You gotta luv em.

  4. pmartin on November 26th, 2005 at 11:43 am

    Can’t imagine a liquor store being open at 11:30 p.m. Is just Texas that closes at 9:00? My local store is run by Indians and they told me that they had to close on Thanksgiving because it was against the law to stay open. Hmm.

  5. squawkbox on November 26th, 2005 at 12:20 pm

    pmartin
    Yeppers that is an offshoot of the old blue laws.

  6. Matt Bramanti on November 26th, 2005 at 1:11 pm

    Yeah, PMartin, each state’s liquor laws vary widely.

    In Indiana, where I went to college, grocery stores could sell beer, but not cold beer. Drugstores sold beer, wine and liquor. Gas stations didn’t sell beer at all. Not even a tall boy in a paper bag.

    I visited a friend in South Carolina a couple years ago, and ordered a cocktail in a bar. The liquor was in a tiny bottle like you get on an airline. That was the law in SC at the time.

  7. gregg on November 26th, 2005 at 2:18 pm

    Last night I went to a comedy show at our local Mosque. The main act was an up and coming young Muslim comic named Comical Ali.
    He had some great material. Check some of it out.

    On my flight to New York there must have been a Jew in the bathroom the entire time. There was a sign on the door that said “occupied.”

    What do you say to a Muslim woman with two black eyes? Nothing! You told her twice already!

    How many Palestinians does it take to change a light bulb? None! They sit in the dark forever and blame the Jews for it!

    Did you hear about the Broadway play, The Palestinians ? It bombed!

    What do you call a first-time offender in Saudi Arabia? Lefty!

    Did you hear about the Muslim strip club? It features full facial nudity!

    Why do Palestinians find it convenient to live on the West Bank? Because just a stone’s throw from Israel!

    Why are Palestinian boys luckier than American boys? Because every Palestinian boy will get to join a rock group!

    A Palestinian suspect was being grilled by Israeli police. “Honest, I’m not a suicide bomber,” he said. “I didn’t say I wanted to blow myself up so I could sleep with 72 virgins. All I said was I’m dying to get laid!”

    What does the sign say above the nursery in a Palestinian maternity ward? “Live ammunition.”

    A Palestinian girl says to her mommy, “After Abdul blows up, can I have his room?”

  8. pmartin on November 26th, 2005 at 2:36 pm

    If you consider that there have been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theater of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2112 deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000. The rate in Washington D.C. (among others) is 80.6 per 100,000. That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in our Nation’s Capitol, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation, than you are in Iraq.

    Conclusion: We should immediately pull out of Washington D.C.

  9. gregg on November 26th, 2005 at 2:38 pm

    Its time for more Muslim humor.

    Saddam Hussein phoned President Bush and said, “George, I called you because I had this incredible dream last night. I could see all of America, and it was beautiful and on top of every building, there was a beautiful banner.”
    Bush asked, “What was on the banner?”
    Saddam responded, “It said Allah is God, and God is Allah.”
    Bush said, “You know, Saddam, I’m really glad you called, because last night I had a dream too. I could see all of Baghdad, and it was even more beautiful than before the war. It had been completely rebuilt, and on every building there was also a beautiful banner.”
    Saddam said, “What was on the banner?”
    Bush replied, “I really don’t know. I don’t read Hebrew.”

  10. Matt Bramanti on November 26th, 2005 at 4:14 pm

    Give it up for Gregg, everybody. He just flew in from Fallujah, and boy is his magic carpet tired.

  11. gregg on November 26th, 2005 at 4:47 pm

    I just cant stop.

    Q: How can you tell the difference between a woman with PMS and a terrorist?
    A: Terrorists can be negotiated with.

    Q: Did you hear what the men say in a Muslim strip club?
    A: ‘Get your face out for the boys…’

    Q: What do you call a taliban that owns a camel and a goat?
    A: Bisexual.

    Q. What do you call a Taliban who owns six goats?
    A. A pimp.

    Q: Why doesnt Afghanistan have WalMart?
    A: Because they have a Target on every corner!!!!

    Q: What do you call a piece of sandpaper in Afghanistan?
    A: A map.

    Q: How does Osama bin Laden practice safe sex?
    A: He marks the camels that kick.

  12. kidwittehtape on November 26th, 2005 at 4:48 pm

    wow gregg good job

    :LOL:

  13. cameraguy on November 26th, 2005 at 10:51 pm

    gregg rocks! I like the one about Muslims being bisexual if they own a goat and a camel. We should tell more jokes like this. I believe in propoganda during wartime. We’ll sort things out after we win.

    Pmartin also had a great post about the deaths per 100,000. Washington DC has strict gun control laws are they are the most dangerous city in the country. How do liberals keep blabbing their nonsense when presented with so many facts?

  14. kd5dgs on November 26th, 2005 at 10:57 pm

    R I N O
    Religion In Name Only

    The sharp dressed (men?) in the white shirt white bow tie, black suits, are not acting in the name of any REAL religion.
    You have to wonder about the CHECKBOOK Side of this.
    The vandals act as if any cash flow to booze cannot flow to the vandals.

    Come to think of it, since 529’s, have sucked up much of the cash on the left, is there any cash flow left for the small timers deeply lost on the left.

    First rule of cash flow,
    If you have no cash flow, you cannot skim off the top. Ask Mayor Ray Nagin

  15. luv2hammer on November 27th, 2005 at 6:31 am

    Greg, that was too funny.

  16. gregg on November 27th, 2005 at 7:33 am

    This looks like the mob back in the 50’s. Now its the brothers who are inforcing the rules.Maybe this liquor store didnt pay the protection money. This is the Muslim Sapranos.

  17. gadboy on November 27th, 2005 at 8:19 am

    13- your logic doesn’t stand up to reason. Even though D.C. has strict gun control, the outlying areas don’t and I’d bet this is where the guns are coming from, unless there is a big wall keeping all guns out of D.C. How many handgun murders occured iun the U.K. last year.

  18. cameraguy on November 27th, 2005 at 8:50 am

    #17 No, I wouldn’t expect my logic to stand up to a liberal’s idea of reason.

    What I think is especially funny is the reference to the UK. If I, as a conservative, mention another country in response to a liberal’s argument, I get the “This isn’t China, or “This isn’t Cuba” card played back to me. Well, look what this liberal did. He played the UK card. Apparently liberals don’t have to play by the same rules they set up for us. Hey, wait a minute, I think that’s what liberals do all the time.

    Also, did everyone notice how the liberal didn’t accept that his crazy liberal policies don’t work, but instead blames yet another supposedly mitigating factor as a cause. (The outlying areas of DC do not have such strict gun-control.) See, you can never get a liberal to acknowledge their failures.

    So I guess all of the law-abiding residents of the state of Maryland have to have their guns taken away from them. Okay, so when innocent families are slaughtered in their homes by hordes of rampaging muslims, the liberal will say that his crazy policies are not to blame, the surrounding states do not have gun control.

    There’s just no arguing with a liberal.

    And about the UK. Well, gadboy, it’s a well-known fact that it is much more dangerous to walk the streets of London than say, Houston, because the gangs of hooligans know the citizenry is unarmed. There are far more violent robberies in London than Houston.

    Sorry, liberal, you’ll have to do better than that to wipe out the bill of rights.

  19. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 9:32 am

    #18
    Know what you mean…when you point out to them similar crime statistics in NYC, which is in an entoire STATE that has gun control…they say the guns come from another state.

    When you point out the rising crime statistics in Austrailia an entire continent which outlawed personal possession of firearms….

    Oh never mind..

    I’m just thankful I live in a country where I have a Constitution that guarantees me the right to protect myself, and the means with which to do it.

  20. Arya alQueasy on November 27th, 2005 at 9:37 am

    I remember quite a bit of crime on tourists in Florida a few years ago. The theory at the time was that the tourists were an easy target because it was almost guaranteed they had no gun. I believe in the right to keep and bear firearms by legal American citizens. It is only common sense that a person should be able to protect themselves against criminals who always seem to find a way to get guns, regardless of the legality.

    #18 - well said
    #17 - baseless speculation

  21. Arya alQueasy on November 27th, 2005 at 10:07 am

    Fighting Terrorism: Recommendations by Arab Reformists

    MEMRI - http://www.memri.org/

    Europe Must Change its Lenient Treatment of Muslim Extremists

    Incitement on the Internet Must Be Stopped

    Arab Intellectuals Must Stop Speaking in Two Voices

    The Terrorists Must Be Separated from Their Sympathizers

    Muslims Must Denounce the Terrorists; The West Must Stop Being Naive

    Muslims Must Ban Suicide Bombings for Moral Reasons

    The Religious Institutions Must Take Practical Measures Against the Terrorists

    The Muslims Must Form a New Religious Culture

    The Silent Majority Must Speak Out Against the Terrorists

    The War on Terrorism Requires Extensive Intellectual, Political and Educational Activity

    The above are just the highlights of a much longer article - here’s the whole thing:

    http://www.freemuslims.org/document.php?id=65

  22. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 10:30 am

    Future headline:

    MUSLIMS AND TEXAS BAPTISTS JOIN FORCES TO BAN ALCOHOL NATIONWIDE

    One man’s religion is another man’s prohibition.

  23. gregg on November 27th, 2005 at 10:41 am

    Alcohol will never be banned. It generates to much tax revenue for the government whores and the activist groups like N.A.U.W would never allow it. That is, National Association of Ugly Women.

  24. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 10:48 am

    Great article! My favorite part, something a few non-muslims here in the states should pay attention to:

    “Arab reformists also harshly criticized their intellectual colleagues. Egyptian commentator and Al-Sharq Al-Awsat columnist Muna Al-Tahawi brought up the issue of the aspirations of some intellectuals to please their target audience: “The time has come for us to declare resolutely that the claim heard whenever Muslims stage a terror attack - ‘George Bush made me do it’ - is a stupid one…”

  25. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 10:49 am

    #23

    And the Kennedy fortune is built on it.

  26. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 11:09 am

    #25 Thanks for telling us something that everyone has herd for years, sarge. This ain’t jr. high civics you know.

  27. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 11:10 am

    “herd”—Freudian slip as in herd mentality.

  28. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 11:40 am

    Wil;

    You seem unaware that I am referring to the enterprise run by Jack Kennedy’s Grandparents PJ Kennedy and his wife which enabled them to gain an entre into the Lace Irash society of late 19th Century Boston. Although there is a strong amount of evidence suggesting that Joe Kennedy made the organized crime contacts that he used so succesfully to insure Jack’s primary victories by smuggling liquor in illegally during Prohibition.

    I have no problem myself with this kind of Capitalism.

  29. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 11:44 am

    Irash was not Freudian…..it was fat fingers

  30. Arya alQueasy on November 27th, 2005 at 12:07 pm

    #24 Sarge,

    I must admit to you that I am no more Muslim than Joel Osteen. I am as WASP as they come. With regard to your post, I agree that the Free Muslim Coalition posts some great articles. I became interested in them a few months ago upon hearing their views on terrorism. At last, a Muslim group who advocate no appeasement of terrorists! What a light in the darkness.

    I joined their organization and receive regular e-mail updates from them. I believe the war in Iraq is very worthwhile and just and will ultimately prove to have been the right decision to make. I know you are a historian and military man and look forward to the day when we can look back and say “America did the right thing”.

  31. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 12:21 pm

    Arya;

    Yes, we both look forward to the day when the Democrats treat GWB as well as Republicans treat FDR today for doing basically the same things FDR did to beat the Great Evil of his time.

  32. gregg on November 27th, 2005 at 12:28 pm

    When you look up the term “Reagan Republican” you see Pat Buchanans picture. Why then does he call the Iraq war one of the greatest strategic blunders of history?

    This man is a student of history and seems very astute on foreign affairs. He has been totally ignored by the right. How can this man be so wrong and a c student like GWB be so right? I am not trying to start something here I just want to know the truth without the BS spin.

    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47557

  33. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 12:55 pm

    “…the same things FDR did to beat the Great Evil of his time.”

    sarge, for years I’ve heard speculation, especially from the right, that FDR knew about the impending attack on Pearl Harbor and let it happen anyway to galvanize this country into war. Do you believe that and is that one of the “things” you are referring to.

  34. Matt Bramanti on November 27th, 2005 at 1:03 pm

    Wil, take the edge off.

  35. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 1:05 pm

    It’s a fair question.

  36. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 1:08 pm

    sarge laid the predicate. I would like for him to expand on the “things” that he is referring to and we can start with Pearl Harbor.

  37. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 2:12 pm

    #33..

    No respected historian beleves this. And it does not come from the Right, it comes from Leftists who allege the war was conducted for the financial gain of War Profiteers, similar to the “No Blood For Oil” screeds we hear today.

    FDR’s preparation of defenses in the Pacific was based on intelligence, some very good, some very bad. The good intelligence told him the Japanese may attack, the bad led him to bleive it would be in the Phillipines and Indo-China. Nobody ever thought that an attack as far East as Hawaii would occur, even thoughn there were a few analysts and forward thinkers who warned of the possbility. We’ve had another President who fell victim to the same kind of mixed intelligence and is being villified by people who do not or will not understand the truth.

    What I was referring to was FDR’s promise not to “Send your boys to fight in another European War.” during his reelection campaign, while preparing for it nonetheless. I support and appluad his preparations and other steps he took to get us closer to helping the British and getting into a fight with the Nazis, as he was aware of the evil they represented (although nobody was prepared for the true nature of thier evil, once it was finally revealed). Many historians believe that the “Neutraility Patrols” he ordered the Navy to perform in the North Atlantic was a means to antagonize the Nazis into an attack with thier submarines, giving the same kind of justification for going to war the Germans had given Wilson in 1917.

    Clare Booth Luce and other prominent Republicans of the time tried to take political advantage by claiming “FDR lied us into this war.” They paid a price for that by being out of power for nearly 60 years, once people saw the true evil of the enemy he was preparing us to fight.

  38. gregg on November 27th, 2005 at 2:41 pm

    Sarge,
    Its amazing how history repeats itself. You would think the people in charge would eventually learn something.

  39. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 2:53 pm

    Another thing FDR did, something which was absolutley against the laws written at the time, and untile realtively recently his personal involvement remained classified was the authorizization, equippage and staffing of a mercenary organization to fight in China prior to 7 Dec, 1941.

    At the time, they were called the “American Volunteer Group” and they flew aircraft that were ostensibly going to Great Britan, but were diverted by Presidential order to the Nationalist Chinese. “Volunteer” pilots were then recruited in all the services, given leave of absences, and furnished with transportation under assumed identities along with thier aircraft and a large number of Maintenance, Administrative, and Medical Enlisted Personnel who were also on Presidentially Authorized leves of absence.

    We know them today by the name “The Flying Tigers.”

  40. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 3:01 pm

    And finally, “Lend Lease” was a way he devised to get around the same nuetraility laws he violated in facilitating the formation of the Flying Tigers. Congress had pased a law stating that now war materiel could be sold to any belligerant nation without it’s approval (which was the law violated by sending the P40s to China instead of Britain). Esentially, FDR got around that by having the British sign treaties promising to give all those destroyers back after they we done with them. He was not selling War Materiel, he was “Lending” it to them. The money quote from the speecah he agave was words to the effect of “If I see my neighbor’s house on fire and he needs a hose, I will loan him mine and expect it back when the emergency is over.”

  41. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 3:04 pm

    There were other, more descreet oprations and tactics used, but the above are the ones most laymen will remember from watching TV in their youth.

  42. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 3:14 pm

    I will say that one reason many people think FDR did nothing wrong before WW2, is that he turned out to be right. He is remembered for that, and it is taken on faith that everything he did to defeat the tein Evils of Nazism and Fanatic Religous Bushdo/Shinto was the right and proper thing to do, even thougn much of it was technically, of not actually against laws passed by Congres designed to keep us neutral.

  43. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 3:21 pm

    That should be “twin Evils of Nazism and Fanatic Religous Bushido/Shinto”

    My fingers have gotten fat, fat, fat…

  44. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 4:39 pm

    BTW….

    Wil;

    Did that answer your question?

  45. cameraguy on November 27th, 2005 at 4:45 pm

    Good job answering Wil B’s attack, Sarge. You blew his argument out of the water. Will we ever hear from him again? If I was him, I’d be switching my political ideology about now. Why not? His position has been torn to shreds with logic, clarity, and historical fact.

    If he’s still a liberal the next time he posts, it will be proof in my mind that liberals are irrational and just plain wrong don’t want to acknowledge reality.

  46. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 5:09 pm

    I’ve ben here before. What I find odd is that just a few years ago when FDRs stretching, bending, and breaking of the laws Congress passedto enforce the Neutrailty that olls showed was popular among American citizens until 7 Dec, 1941, the answer has always been “So what? He was trying to defeat the greatest Evil the world has ever seen?”

    Now it seems trying to defeat an force every bit as evil as Nazism, we suddenly have to follow the rules strictly and shout “Impeach the bastard!”

    Before WW2, Hitler told the world exactly what he was all about, especially when it came to the Jews. Even then we were shocked by the enormity of the crimes he committed.

    We are now facing an enemy tha not only wants to exterminate the Jews, but every Christian, Buddhist, Mormon, Catholic, Animist, Wiccan and pygmy door knob worshiper on the planet. Like Hitler, they teel us EXACTLY what they are all about and EXACTLY what thier plans are for us

    But somehow, some folks want to make 2,100 American deaths against 50,000 of those who would exterminate us as being a failure. They want to characterize the toppling of a dictator in the direct mold of Hitler and the establishment of a Democracy in that country a waste of time. They say the enemy is too hard to fight, or that we are doing it in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    They are fools, and dangerous ones at that, because this is the tactic they will use to gain control of our government.

  47. SimpleSimon on November 27th, 2005 at 5:19 pm

    To All,

    I do not approve of destroying private property, but I am not without sympathy to the guys that trashed the Beer/Malt Liquor Cooler.

    I have a pet peeve as well and it is the tub of iced down beers that are so prominent in every quicky mart.

    Drinking a cold one is not my problem. I have been known to drink an adult beverage from time to time, but leaving the establishment and sucking down a beer while driving is a problem. I know that some will say it is better that walk-ins buy and drink a single that buy a cold six-pack, but some of those singles are 16 oz and bigger.

    I suppose the quicky-mart owners are merely trying to supply the pedestrian traffic with lager beer and the thirsty drivers are just an unintended consequence.

    Simple

  48. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 5:26 pm

    Shhot, Simple, when I was in school at NTSU in Denton, we had DRIVE THROUGH liquor stores.

  49. squawkbox on November 27th, 2005 at 5:40 pm

    SimpleSimon
    What is the difference if someone gets 1 out of barrel to go or buys a cold 6 pack of 16ozer and drinks one of those on the way home? Or the guy that drinks 2 twelves out of a regular six pack on the way home?

    Prohibition does not work. Abilene Texas used to be a “dry” town and the DWI inducing drink of choice was the boot flask of whiskey kept under the seat. I wonder where they got that booze? Why from Impact, Texas which was the richest 6 acres on the city limits of Abilene, that’s where. The next nearest point was Buffalo Gap 32 miles away.

    My point is those that have a propensity to drink while driving are going too no matter what. Those like myself won’t.

  50. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 5:47 pm

    Sqauwk;

    a similar condition existed in Denton before that town went “wet” while I was in school. In this case, the twon was Lincoln Park. It was a thriving community just outside the Denton County line. In the 30 odd years since Denton County went wet, it has been transformed into empty parking lots, evern the buildings are gone.

    Gone also are the highway deaths that occured on Route 380 between there and Denton.

  51. Arya alQueasy on November 27th, 2005 at 5:56 pm

    I’ve ben here before. What I find odd is that just a few years ago when FDRs stretching, bending, and breaking of the laws Congress passedto enforce the Neutrailty that olls showed was popular among American citizens until 7 Dec, 1941, the answer has always been “So what? He was trying to defeat the greatest Evil the world has ever seen?”

    Now it seems trying to defeat an force every bit as evil as Nazism, we suddenly have to follow the rules strictly and shout “Impeach the bastard!”

    But Sarge, we have to be politically correct now (as long as it fits the liberal agenda) - never mind the facts. Yet again, the liberal double standard is evident when events are viewed in historical context. It’s funny in a sad kind of way to see the liberal agenda implode.

  52. gregg on November 27th, 2005 at 5:56 pm

    Maybe the answer is to ban the sale of cold beer. It can be heated up so its undrinkable till you get home and cool it off. Anyway,
    I was watching coverage of some of the Iraq offensives going on to quell the insurgents. What I heard and saw didnt make sense. I saw tanks,Bradleys and all kinds of armaments going off. Then you hear that 4 insurgents were killed. WTF? I expect 5000 killed when the crap is hitting the fan like that. What gives? Seems like an awful waste of taxpayer ammo for 4 guys.

    Maybe I dont understand Military strategery.

  53. headshaker on November 27th, 2005 at 6:06 pm

    #52 gregg wrote: “I expect 5000 killed when the crap is hitting the fan like that. What gives? Seems like an awful waste of taxpayer ammo for 4 guys. Maybe I dont understand Military strategery.”

    gregg, and that’s where sarge and company miss the point about the enemy we’re fighting.

  54. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 6:13 pm

    #52

    Gregg;

    That is a question with many answers…and of course I will blather on interminably to get them to you.

    fisrt, we have the death of Marksmanship in the military. I happened at the same time the M16 was adopted. It’s a recognition of the fact that we have gone from a largely rural society where young men grew up hunting pot meat and defending chicken coops, to a more urban setting where the only weapon most boys see is on TV.

    Now we should discuss the current tactical doctrine of “Firepower” as a means of conducting combat. While I decry the Death of Marsmanship, Firepower is really, really effective. Basically, you pour as many rounds as you can in the general direction of the enemy until he ceases his hostile intent.

    Lastly, the tactic most commonly used since WW2 is called the three “Fs”: Find ‘em, Fix ‘em, Fxxk ‘em up.

    We enjoy a luxury the enemy does not: the bottomless supply of things that go boom in the night that most Capitalist Democracies can provide.

    In WW1, about 10,000 rounds of ammunition of all types were expended for every casualty, dead or wounded. IN WW2, that went to over 20,000…and more than double that in Viet Nam. I imagine we’re doubling it again in Iraq.
    Why?

    It’s the most effective way we have of dealing with bad guys.

  55. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 6:14 pm

    $53

    I see shakey made a post without seeing the answer…

    goes to show that he doesn’t understand…..

  56. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 6:16 pm

    re: FDR & Pearl Harbor. I could paraphrase several writers on this issue but Robert Stinnett, author of “Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor” gives us the most critical analysis. “Respected” is a subjective term. I’ll leave it up to the reader.

    http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=408

    BTW sarge, I really enjoyed the yipping of your little lap dog. Do those things breed? I would love to have one.

  57. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 6:19 pm

    To expand on the three F’s, and Firepower in general:

    Your goal is ti find the bad guy, and then make him stay where he is so you can use any means at your disposal to make him cease his hostile intent.

    Now, that can’t be done bay standing behind a rock and shouting

    “Now Haji, you stay pout while second squad moves to your flank, OK?”

    While second squad is manuevering to the flank, fisrt and third are making it a bad idea for the bad guy to get to a better position than he alread ys,

    Dose that make it a bit clearer?

  58. headshaker on November 27th, 2005 at 6:27 pm

    sarge wrote: “We enjoy a luxury the enemy does not: the bottomless supply of things that go boom in the night that most Capitalist Democracies can provide.”

    This shows how “unaware” you really are sarge. How do you think we’re paying for all this stuff?

    You wonder why I shake my head.

  59. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 6:27 pm

    #56

    Actually Wil, the first published works on the subject started coming out in about 1946, and come out periodically. As the article you put out there suggests, each time a new batch of documents is declassified be the National Archives, some Bozo writes a book. They generally hold as much water as the ones trying to debunk the Holocaust.

    The tragedy is what happened to Husbvand Kimmel and Walter Short, the Navy and Army Commanders on the scene. They took the blame, when somebody decided blame should be handed out, but they wer badly served by those above them.

    The disaster at Pearl Harbor could have been averted had it not been for inter-service rivalry, more than anything else. The warning that attack was imminent was sent by Western Union because the Army was responsible for sending it and thier equipment was working properly. The navy did have equipment equal to the task, but the Signal corps boys didn’t want to admit that they did, so they chose the alternate means.

    I knew that my answers wouldn’t change your political stripes, but I hop it gives you pause next time you think you can characterize any of the folks here ion lST as nut jobs.

  60. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 6:30 pm

    Gee Shakey…

    Aren’t you the one who is saying that we didn’t send enough stuff over there?

    I got no problem spending money if it will keep more American boys alive and more evil bastards dead.

    Hope you guys don;t get in charge over there, you’ll have an accountant standing next to every GI to make sure he doesn’t go over his quota of bullets.

  61. headshaker on November 27th, 2005 at 6:33 pm

    sarge, as usual, you have me confused with someone else. I’ve never said we haven’t sent enough over.

    And I think we’ve lost more good American soldiers than they’ve lost true “evil bastards” (I’m talking about the real threats, not the wannabes).

  62. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 6:35 pm

    So let me get this straight..

    You think people willing to strap bombs on themselves and walk into a hospital parking lot are “wannabes” and should be ignored, is that it?

    Or the suicide squads that charge our guys with guns and grenades aren’t dangerous?

    My way of thinking is we kill them while they are willing to do that, give them a place to go where they can be killed, rather than “contain” them while they build up training camps to do the job better.

  63. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 6:36 pm

    Now let me get something else straight, too:

    You think we are sending too much stuff over there?

  64. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 6:40 pm

    sarge,
    I would submit that some personal complex rather than anything that I have contributed to this blog might be the source of your sense that you are being characterized as a nut job. Further, if I were to do that I am certain that the moderators would boot me off the board.

  65. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 6:42 pm

    #64
    I think that’s what #34 was all about…….

  66. gregg on November 27th, 2005 at 6:43 pm

    No house fires or car wrecks to report. Must be a slow newsday.
    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/051126/480/txev10211261853

  67. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 6:46 pm

    Gregg;

    Don’t worry about Cindy, Howard Dean will send her another check at the first of the month….

  68. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 6:46 pm

    Perceived edgeness leads you to believe someone is calling you a nut job?

  69. Arya alQueasy on November 27th, 2005 at 6:47 pm

    BTW sarge, I really enjoyed the yipping of your little lap dog. Do those things breed? I would love to have one.

    Interesting how Wil’s definition of “yipping little lap dog” would seem to include rational Muslim thinkers but doesn’t include personal attacks against people who disagree with him. Based on comments I’ve seen him make in other areas on this website, I’d have to say he is everything just shy of a troll (I’ll give you guys a prime example if you wish). I will give him credit for knowing how to stay on the right side of that line (barely). That’s the artful liberal dodge, isn’t it? Political correctness when it suits your purpose.

  70. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 6:47 pm

    Wil;

    do you have something concrete to add to the debate?

  71. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 6:50 pm

    Been doing it for several days. All sycophants all the time is probably boring to all but you and a few.

  72. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 6:52 pm

    I even suspended at the request of the moderator yesterday. Something sarge was unable to do.

  73. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 6:52 pm

    OK, Well, let me and headshaker have some fun now. At least he makes a few points. I’ve never known him to make personal attacks, and have a newfound respect for him in that regard.

  74. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 6:53 pm

    Although, he does owe me a couple answers to a couple questions….

  75. gadboy on November 27th, 2005 at 6:56 pm

    Been gone all day, but I see all I missed was just the usual inane conservative drivel.

  76. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 6:59 pm

    #75

    Another deeply piercing, thoughtful analysis….

  77. gadboy on November 27th, 2005 at 7:01 pm

    Thought you would like that Sarge

  78. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 7:01 pm

    You guys gonna come up with something I can sink my teeth into, or just stand there name calling all night?

  79. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 7:01 pm

    Watch it gadboy! sarge will think you are calling him a nut job.

  80. gadboy on November 27th, 2005 at 7:04 pm

    Would I say that?

  81. squawkbox on November 27th, 2005 at 7:04 pm

    It is me again as Moderator

    Everyone back off the accusation edge

    It is Squawk as a lurker

  82. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 7:04 pm

    How about a discussion on intelligent design v. ignorant design?

  83. Arya alQueasy on November 27th, 2005 at 7:05 pm

    DELETED BY THE MODERATOR, Squawkbox

    If that is the level of respect you can give those who disagree with you, I will not bother to converse with you again.

  84. gadboy on November 27th, 2005 at 7:07 pm

    83 I can’t figure out what point you are trying to make?

  85. squawkbox on November 27th, 2005 at 7:08 pm

    Arya alQueasy #83 I am the moderator here and I trust you were in the midst of that post when I said  Back off.

  86. sargevining on November 27th, 2005 at 7:08 pm

    Well;

    As it happens, the Little colonel calls. somewhere on the compund ther is an onerous task to perform. The supply of willing nnatve bearers has dwindled precipitously in recent months, wo I’ll have to handle this myself.

    You guys feel free to handle yourselves, too…

    “Normally I make it a policy not to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man, but in your case I’ve made an excetion.”

    Oscar Wilde

  87. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 7:11 pm

    I respect all opinions and people, especially those under duress, as with the Little Colonel. She found Mr. Right. She just didn’t know his first name was Always.

  88. squawkbox on November 27th, 2005 at 7:13 pm

    WIL that’s enough.

  89. Arya alQueasy on November 27th, 2005 at 7:13 pm

    Could we also delete #87?

  90. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 7:14 pm

    Sir, yes sir! I’ll suspend.

  91. squawkbox on November 27th, 2005 at 7:14 pm

    I think we have reached parody.

  92. Arya alQueasy on November 27th, 2005 at 7:15 pm

    BTW,

    Thank you for #88.

  93. Arya alQueasy on November 27th, 2005 at 7:17 pm

    I think we have reached parody.

    Indeed. I would submit to you that I’ve seen others nixed from this site for less.

  94. Wil Barnes on November 27th, 2005 at 7:19 pm

    Thank you for #85

  95. squawkbox on November 27th, 2005 at 7:26 pm

    Arya alQueasy
    #93

    I’m in an unusally good mood tonight.

    Wil Barnes
    #94

    You’re welcome to both you guys.

  96. Arya alQueasy on November 27th, 2005 at 7:34 pm

    Having taken a collective breath or two now, perhaps we can proceed with more level heads?

  97. cameraguy on November 27th, 2005 at 7:37 pm

    I have addressesd the Problem.  Squawkbox

  98. squawkbox on November 27th, 2005 at 7:38 pm

    cameraguy

    Give me a break huh? Back off Wil and have your conversation.

  99. squawkbox on November 27th, 2005 at 7:45 pm

    Squawk as moderator

    We all know that those on either side of the aisle have shall we say, outstanding characteristics. Debate the issues and not the other person’s personality flaws.

    Squawk as moderator

  100. gadboy on November 27th, 2005 at 7:50 pm

    Too many thin skinned people in here.

  101. Arya alQueasy on November 27th, 2005 at 7:54 pm

    Getting back to the original topic of this post, I wonder if Louis Farrakhan has anything to say on the topic of Muslim on Muslim crime. Has anyone heard from him? Surely after his statements about exploding levies in New Orleans he would have something of interest to add regarding the topic of vandalism against Muslims in California.

  102. Arya alQueasy on November 27th, 2005 at 7:59 pm

    #84 Gadboy,

    The point I was trying to make is spelled out in my #93. I’m thin skinned by no means, but the blade cuts both ways, my friend.

  103. squawkbox on November 27th, 2005 at 8:01 pm

    Arya alQueasy

    Ok you have made your point NUFF SAID

    gadboy

    Let it go.

  104. gadboy on November 27th, 2005 at 8:14 pm

    I’m fine but I think some of us are taking this too seriously

  105. jimb on November 27th, 2005 at 8:44 pm

    Looks like I missed some good stuff over the Thanksgiving holiday…

  106. Arya alQueasy on November 27th, 2005 at 9:08 pm

    #103 Squawk,

    Agreed… I’m really not the confrontational type, believe it or not. Apologies for the skirmish, if that’s an accurate description of what happened.

    #105 Jimb,

    Time with the family is infinitely more valuable than anything that happened here. I’m thankful for mine, just as I’m sure you’re thankful for yours. Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas in advance.

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