Weekend Open Comments Thread
by David Benzion · 01/13/2006 10:17 pmEnjoy.
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Ha!
Fox News last night (Thurs):
The devastation of hurricane Katrina on the Gulf coast may be a faded memory to most Americans but President Bush visited the……
ABC News this morning:
For the first time in more than 3 months President visited…..
I report, you decide.
DAAAAAAANG Benzion started this early.
Oh yeah and Matt if you read this after midnight Friday night Saturday Morning
HAPPY HANGOVER
Oh I was shouting wasn’t I. Go take two aspirin and call me in the morning.
Stop stealing my stuff!
Well the Fake Conservative/Oath Breaking/Illegal Alien-Aider and Abettor/ in Chief has finally outdone himself and shown how Barren of Gray Matter he really is.
He likens the illegal immigration crisis to prohibition and says “Aw shucks people wanted that whiskey, so they made it anyway, so lets give amnesty to 20 million lawbreakers”!! Paraphrasing by me.
According to Alfred E Neuman-Bush’s logic, we might as well legalize all drugs because people will snort, smoke or shoot-up anyway, so what the heck.
He should legalize stealing too because criminals want the goods in your house, so aw shucks, they should get to steal them legally.
And we know millions of people will cheat on their taxes, so we might as well make it legal because we know it’s going to happen, gosh darn-it.
As a matter of fact he should just legalize any criminal act that can happen, since it’s bound to happen anyway, heck and aw shucks, make it legal.
Click the link scroll down to CNN Lou Dobbs - Video:
Our President in Action - Equates Immigration with Prohibition
and see for yourself.
In my opinion this guy is a total buffoon and I agree with Pat Buchanan, he needs to be impeached.
No regard whatsoever for the law of the land. He is giving America the middle finger.
Shameful indeed!!
http://www.forthecause.us/index.shtml
Phil,
I stopped reading your post after “Oath Breaking.” If you want to make a point, stop the vicious invective or else no one is going to read it.
When you start with fourteen insults before Bush’s name, the rest of your post is like the middle of the US to the pundits and politicians: “scroll over country.”
This is NOT a flame. I’m posting concerning your diction, not your ancestry, etc. This unsolicited advice is worth every penny you’re paying for it.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/3586715.html
Note that the “nonpartisan” university group felt compelled, in the second paragraph to say, “The worst we can say about the ad…”
Note that they never felt compelled to make an unambiguous statement about “The best we can say about the ad…”
More unbiased dead tree media for you from Houston’s own Chronic-Lies.
“I’m doing my homework, Mom! Honest!”
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/13/174520.shtml
Re David B’s post on the Brenda Kent story on Friday….Rules are Rules are Rules, I had an interesting visit to the local Home Depot yesterday afternoon.
I am working on a project for a friend who needed two pieces of plywood cut a specific width (14″).
Upon asking an associate to help me with the two “Free Cuts”, I was advised that they are only allowed to make cuts as small as 16″ in width. I asked: “Why?” He responed: “It’s a store rule”. I asked to see the rule and where it was written/posted. He was unable to produce said document but was emphatic that it was their store rules/policy. I suggested that it was only a two inch difference in the cut and that I needed the 14″ width for a project and could he please make an exception for me. He said ” Rules are rules and I can’t break them. I asked would it endager him or ruin the saw if he made the 14″ cuts instead of 16″ ones? He said; No, but I can’t make the 14″ cuts, it’s against the rules. Being the nice guy that I am and not wanting to raise a ruckus or waste any more of my time, I just asked him to make one slightly over 28″ cut and I’d go gome and cut that piece in half myself, thank you very much! He had this blank/puzzled look on his face.
This story doesn’t have NEARLY the implications that the Brenda Kent one does, but it shows what some rules are just made to be broken!
What about the customer is always right rule?
I would’ve told him, “One word, ‘Lowes.’”
malcolm, you should have asked to speak to the store manager. I’m fairly(?) certain he/she would have resolved the matter to your satisfaction. I never deal with the clerks at any store/restaurant when there’s a problem. They simply can’t make practical decisions.
RE: Article in Chronicle Tue 1/10 Business page concerning new Mustang/Dodge Challenger Concept and Camaro Concept.
When the mini-van came out and got popular (10-12 years ago?) I was fed up with the new cars looking exactly the same. You could get a mini-van, an egg-shaped car or an SUV, and that was your choices. And trying to find any color but white was close to impossible.
I wrote a letter to Chrysler asking them to bring back the muscle cars of the 60’s. I told them that people like us would buy an updated version of the old muscle cars. (I was mid 30s in age back then). I also told him how I felt about the styling of all of the new cars available for sale, and that we did not want to buy a car that looked like an egg driving down the road with a top speed of 35 mph, even if it DID get 100 miles to the gallon.
I received a response back telling me that he was livid that I considered a mini-van “ugly” and we are going into a new millenium soon and we have to think Internationally. No one would buy a car based on the muscle car of the 60s. And shame on me for even thinking this way. Well, I guess he told me!
They should have listened to me instead of blowing me off. NOW they come out with the updated muscle cars and that MIGHT save their companies. I hope it does, but if they had done this sooner, maybe they would not have gone through the slump.
You cannot wipe the “I told you so” smile off my face right now. AND as soon as those Challengers are available, Momma is going down to get her one!A girl can never have too much horse power.
Regarding the Beda Kent story:
Are we all missing the point here? What about the baby? I’m not saying the rule is right or wrong, but maybe we should be advocating that she raise her child over the next 2 years instead of worrying about her career goals. Times have certainly changed, haven’t they?
Something to ponder…
You wonder why I shake my head.
Boxie,
Now you sound like a woman with good common horse (power) sense. Happy motoring!
P.S. If you get one of those Challengers, please post pictures for me to ooh and ahh over.
The computer is a moron.
- Peter Drucker
Good laws have their origins in bad morals.
Ambrosius Macrobius
I can remember minivans back in the mid-1980’s, so they’re at least 20 years since the Caravan. It was popular the minute it hit the street.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Caravan
#4: Squawk, no hangover today. The redhead and I went over to my parents’ house, had some of my mom’s awesome homemade pizza and watched The Dirty Dozen. Lee Marvin is such a badass.
Tonight is the night of debauchery with my buddies along Main Street. If I don’t post anything Monday morning, someone please come downtown and peel me off the sidewalk/MetroRail bumper.
#11 Wino and #12 Shaker
I called the store director this morning and told him of my experience. He was appalled (or at least he said so) and asked if I would come back in the store and get another sheet of plywood for free and he would personally cut it for me at the requested 14″ width. He wanted to know the associate’s name that wouldn’t bend the rules ever so slightly for a customer. He said they do have a rule for that but the associate should have used a little common sense or at least called managment for an exception. He was very apologetic.
I suggested that the store director use this in his next store/employee meeting as an example of what not to do and how to piss off a customer.
He agreed! All was not in vain.
malcolm, good for you!
Also, when customer service is exceptionally good, I inform the manager. It should work both ways.
HS
Normally I get a bit miffed about the difference in bias represented by two news organizations reporting the same story. But can somebody explain to me the FACTUAL differences in these two?
http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1504096
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060113213309990003
wELL, I’d LIKE to get a car that looked good, instead of the modern rounded-off ones or those that look like tennis shoes. I’d also like to get an American-made one now, because most of the GM & Ford factories are going to China, though I think Ford will make Lincolns in Russia. Anyhow, didn’t Toyota just pass GM as biggest seller?
And since we’re out of silver and mostly China buys US Bills, is it true we’ll be printing more ‘money’ to buy they back? This is the first time a non-value fiat currency was the main in the world; is it possible it could remain that way? I wrote a letter a couple months back to Congress because they want to have the navy built in China. Obviously (unless you’re a Congressjack!?) that’s an inane idea.
Hey, they’ll get what they want, as there are five times as many of them (& India is almost as big, if about as capable of organization as Mexico). I want the southern border locked down, but on the other hand in the near future we’ll need to whole western hemisphere together if there’s any chance of standing up to China (let alone if they go all hegemonous over there).
#18 Wino
I have a 1991 Champagne colored, woody Dodge Caravan SE that belonged to my folks before they went to be with the Lord. It has the 3.3 ltr. V-6 with 210 HP, auto, overdrive and removable second and third row seats, an awesome stereo system, plus gets an avg. of 25 MPG’s. With only 89K miles on this baby, I plan to keep her for some time!
They made a good one when this one rolled off the line.
#13 Boxie:
My first new car was a 325 HP Black-on-Black 1966 Plymouth Satellite 2 dr.Hardtop, 4 speed, posi- track. I juiced it up to 375 HP and had a blast smoking those ‘Vettes, 442’s and GTO’s. The only thing that could get me were the 426 Hemi’s, but only after they saw my satellites behind for a block or so! I can’t wait for the new muscle cars to hit the streets. That new Challenger looks like just the ticket!
Perhaps in black? Maybe RED!
I have to admit that we do own a minivan (2001 Grand Caravan). I resisted the idea at first, but after toting around our large family crew for a bit in it, I must admit, it is perfect for that. Minivans have an undeservedly bad reputation.
While I try to figure out whay one news agency omits certain important facts in the story above, please allow me to demonstrate how much a story can change if the ORDER in which the facts are presented is different.
Read the following before going to the link, then read it:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/14/national/14santacruz.html?ex=1137906000&en=517f2442e327a104&ei=5059&partner=AOL
Bill Lovejoy/Santa Cruz Sentinel
Students at Santa Cruz protested military recruiters last April; the demonstration was said to be listed in a Pentagon database.
So when the military recruiters arrived for the job fair, held in an old dining hall last April 5 - a now fateful day for a scandalized university - the students had their two-way radios in position, their cyclists checking the traffic as hundreds of demonstrators marched up the hilly roads of this campus on the Central Coast and a dozen moles stationed inside the building, reporting by cellphone to the growing crowd outside.
“Racist, sexist, antigay,” the demonstrators recalled shouting. “Hey, recruiters, go away!”
“Fast forward: The students had left campus for their winter vacation in mid-December when a report by MSNBC said the April protest had appeared on what the network said was a database from a Pentagon surveillance program. The protest was listed as a “credible threat” - to what is not clear to people around here - and was the only campus action among scores of other antimilitary demonstrations to receive the designation.”
“A Department of Defense spokesman said that while the Pentagon maintained a database of potential threats to military installations, military personnel and national security, he could not confirm that the information released by MSNBC was from the database. The spokesman, who said he was not authorized to be quoted by name, said he could not answer questions about whether the government was or had been spying on Santa Cruz students.”
“Things got messy. As the building filled, students storming in were blocked from entering. The recruiters left, some finding that the tires of their vehicles had been slashed. The protesters then occupied the recruiters’ table and, in what witnesses described as a minor melee, an intern from the campus career center was injured.”
When you give the answer immediately after the question, you find that the Pentagon Database shows this campus to be a “potential threat to military military personnel” because “The recruiters left, some finding that the tires of their vehicles had been slashed.” and “in what witnesses described as a minor melee, an intern from the campus career center was injured.”
#21 Shaker:
Always try to do that as well! Good service is welcomed and deserves a pat on the back, a sincere thank you or an “attaboy” from the boss.
Good service and good manners seems to be a fleeting commodity these days. Rarely do we hear: “yes, maam and no, sir”! (Except from my two boys and grandsons! It’s thankfully practiced by them.)
Dude
“Minivans have an undeservedly bad reputation. ”
Utilitarian maybe. Power, handling, style, fit and finish. NO
The Dude
Oh yuck a mini-van? That is so—so well uncool. I mean how can a beer brewiing super cool,hip slick guy named “The Dude” be seen driving a mini-van?
Now if it is tricked out like below then I say Kewl.
http://www.wintel.co.jp/vcs_2/shop/000311/image/custom/van/1.jpg
Dude,
Did you happen to catch 20/20 last night. They did a segment on public schools. Part of which touched on our students compared to students world wide (US students fair very poorly).
Interesting considering the “world is flat” book.
I think the future holds great promise for all of us. If we wake up to the challenge.
Dude
This is you.
This is more my speed.
Feagan
RE: Schools Dangit I wish I could source this. I heard somewhere that our kids do well till about the age of 10 when compared to kids world wide. From that point on the bell curve turn down fast.
Re. Home Depot and Cutting Wood:
I have had that experience before. They don’t do what they call “odd” cuts because the machinery they have will not always be able to make the cuts. For instance, they cannot rip (longways) a peice of 8t foot wood because the ripper (for lack of a better word) cannot cut anything over 4ft in length. They showed me why. But then with my bidness I was spending anywhere from 1-2 thousand a month in there just on odds and ends.
Regards,
Beach_Bum
http://www.chores-n-more.net
beach_bum1967@hotmail.com
Squawk,
I have not read that, but I believe it. Our daughter is doing very well. Reading at a high level, verbal skills great etc. etc. She is six.
She is a very bright kid (not just me saying that)
But I really worry about the future and her education.
Like it or don’t, but we are in a world wide economy. My daughter will HAVE to compete on that playing field. She will have to have the language, mathmatics, and verbal skills to navigate a world wide economy. She will compete with kids that understand this well. Sadly I don’t think we as a nation understand yet.
31 Squawk, so is that your rig ?
Told you once earlier, after high school I drove an Auto car rig, and the old Mack Truck running heavy equipment. Nothing like the feel of all that power. Nothing.
Almost every doctor’s name you hear now is Asian or Indian. That says a lot right there.
Shaker, Thomas Friedman who wrote the Wold is Flat tells this story. I’m sure I will get the story slightly wrong but the jist is the same.
He says he gave a speech in Seattle. After his speech he got an e mail from a teacher at a private high school.
He (the teacher) met with parents at an open house.
The first parents Said the Mathematics curriculum was weak, the science program was weak, and he was not giving enough homework to the students. They demanded better. They had an Asian surname.
Another set of parents said the work load was too heavy, the kids did not have enough free time or enough time for soccer and such. They said the work load needed to lessen or they would find another school. They had an American Surname.
I believe the story he tells is true.
#32
Squawk
Yeah the show last nite mentioned that, believe they said up to 4th grade.
Squawk, this is a pretty close version of the AutoCar rig we had. It was a winch truck with flatbed trailer to haul the D8.
As I recall it was a pretty good truck, but it “Beat” the hell out of you on long trips.
Squawk, left out the link
http://www.4wdonline.com/ClassicTrucks/Autocar.html
Tim, I did not catch that in the show. But I believe it.
I like the new merit pay policy implemented by HISD, voted on 9-0 I believe. Based on students grades! It’s a start.
Now if they will stay on top of the cheating (giving fake grades and such) instead of letting it happen and then saying the policy did not work.
Feagan
That rig above is real close to what I used to drive. I gotta dig through my pics and find a pic of MY truck. Sniff sniff I miss my BIG truck. I was a lease lizard for Pepsi once, gawd I hated that job. I drove a show truck for them. The dang thing was used for hauling and things like parades. Great advertising and such. I had to sign a contract that said I would not so much as fart in the thing. What a pain. Great truck to drive though.
I see what you mean about the hauler. Did your boss hate you or what? I am glad you are still around to talk about it.
Tim
#38
Yeah that was it. Geez my brain has a slip in its clutch to forget that so soon.
Tim
#42
Well I have put on my flame suit. I want to see private schools. Anything controlled by any government is going to be rife with cheating etc. I want to see vouchers. If the private schools succeed, which they will, that would force the gubment shools to straighten up their act.
Naw he liked me ok. He got the truck in some “great” deal I’m sure. Also it was all wheel drive, and since we were “off” road a lot that came in handy. But you felt every rut, bumb, and rock. When we got the D8 off the trailer and started clearing roads, The D8 was more comfortable.
Bump, jeez and Squawk err Santa gave me spell check for Christmas.
Feagan
#46
I doubt that it had air ride. There is a bag under the cab that softens the ride. Those bads can be broke on rough rode use and when that happens it like being on a seesaw when the guy on the other end jumps off.
Feagan
Again not mine, but this is about the worst tractor I have ever driven. No doghouse or sleeper. I have driven the old cabovers like JB HUNT had for so many years with the sleeps. Just barely a step above that old Mac. You are sitting right over the top of the front tire in a cab that does not allow much seat adjustment. Great for jack knifing in tight spots to back the trailer in with but other than that no thanks. Gotta say they were easy to work on though.
Air ride ?, Come on Squawk. It did have power windows though, if you got the monkey wrench just so. Better not get caught in the rain, no way to crank that monkey wrench fast enough.
Need a good laugh? (It is Saturday afterall. Don’t we need a few good laughes?)
The best blonde joke EVER is making the rounds. See it here
Feagan
I thought you said your boss did not hate you. LOL.
Squawk, funny thing is, one of the best times in my life. But then hey, I was 18-21, no debt. Made good money. I was out in the “sticks”. As long as I got the roads built, and the drilling sites built my boss left me alone. Had a Ford F 250 4×4 take home company truck with phone. Life was great.
Squawk and Feagan,
Actually when I said we have a minivan, that is technically true, in the sense that my wife and I both are listed on the note. I, however, rarely drive it… it’s pretty well a Mrs. Dude-mobile.
OK, now that I’ve come off all defensive, I must say that I was pleasantly surprised by the handling of said grocery getter. It’s no Porsche or anything, but the handling is not as bad as you might think.
Prior to this one we had a conversion Dodge van, which was not a “mini” van that had all kinds of differential problems. Mrs. Dude got sick of it and issued the minivan edict in early 2001. Oh well, such is life.
On the subject of education, I didn’t catch that on 20/20 Feagan. But like I’ve seen again and again, parental involvement is everything. It’s the common denominator in academic high achievers that I’ve known in my life (with a few exceptions). Perhaps that is one area where some American parents sorely lack.
Gotta go now… much sealing, sanding, priming, and painting to be done. Have a great weekend, all.
Dude, Education agreed. Parental involvement.
Minivans… yeah uh huh, sure whatever you say.
The Dude
Oh the power of any Mrs. edicts. I know them well.
Feagan/Squawk - What do you think of Home Schooling? Both of my daughters are involved and it seems to work very well. The two oldest read really well and the curriculum is Christian based which is a plus. They belong to Home School co-ops and the kids love it. What do you think?
#51 - Never could find the joke. Clicked on everything clickable and went to about 4 or 5 websites. All I cold find were comments on the joke. Please enlighten this techno-challenged non-IT person.
I figured out the joke after the second click. lol
I’m affraid the joke is on us neocon.
#59 - But I’m not blonde!!
Neocon, are you blonde? If you were able to click around, you did fine.
That is the joke…….
Were you blond as a child neocon? lol
Butch,
My only concern with Homeschooling is the social aspect. But I really know very little, so I cannot speak to it with any knowledge.
61 & 62 - okay, okay, don’t rub it in!
And yes, Butch, I was blonde as a child!
Butch
#57
I’m all for Home Schooling. Statistic show that most home schooled children receive a better education, are more prepared for college and very often graduate in the top percentile of their class. Not to mention that most home schooled children are very well behaved and polite.
Butch & Squawk,
Home schooling, IMO, is the way to go. We’ve come a long way regarding the social issues. They now have thier own sports association for those wanting to play high school sports, for example. As home schooling is growing they have other ways to socialize with other home schooled kids.
Besides, it is safer for them than most crime-laden, drug-riddled schools that offer such poor education.
Re: the home Depot cut issue. If You wanted 14″ cut off of 48″ and they said nothing under 16″, you should have turned around and asked for them to cut you a 34″ piece instead…
OK, guys…
I just looked out the window. I want you all to imagine you mom saying:
“What are you doing inside on such a nice day?”
I’m really starting to like thie Global Warming stuff. I’m heading out to explore escape routes from the Compound out here:
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=4&S=13&Z=15&X=140&Y=2047&W=1&qs=%7crosenberg%7ctx%7c
I got it in 3 clicks……LOL
Blondily yours,
Beach_Bum
beach_bum1967@hotmail.com
#67
Thats better than the blonde joke. Duh, we should have all figured that one out!
Wonder how long that kid would have stood their looking as he walked away after grabbing the 14″ strip from him when he tried to hand him the 34″ piece.
Took me 6 or 7 clicks and reading thru the comments!
Hey Squawk, I have asked many truck drivers over the years and no one knows. Why do trucks hauling fish have to be labeled FISH?
#72
More importantly, Tim - do trucks labled FISH really only haul fish?
OK, has anyone else seen the new TXDOT motor vehicle registratiuon stickers? The damn things are UGLY and a pain in the butt to boot. I pride myself on the way my vehicles look, and the State of Texas has done me wrong.
#7 Wino:
Regarding my #6 post:
With all due respect and no flame intended here either, it won’t hurt my feelings a bit if you don’t read any of my posts, now or in the future.
I am far less concerned about what you think about the colorful adjectives I use to describe Slick Georgie II than I am about a president like Slick Georgie II, who snubs his nose at his sworn duty to enforce America’s laws and that includes our immigration laws.
Not to mention the asinine comments comparing illegal immigration to whiskey and prohibition.
Why enforce any laws, using his whiskey/guest worker/amnesty logic? Bush Kool-Aid, anyone?
What I hear him saying is, I refuse to enforce our immigration laws unless you pass my Guest Worker/Amnesty Sham Plan. What Slick Georgie II is doing to this country is a disgrace, IMO.
You reap what you sow and much later than you sow it according to Biblical wisdom.
What Slick Georgie II is Sowing for America is already coming forth and is going to have dire consequences for the USA in the not to distant future. That is the way I see it.
#75 - In essence, I agree with you. Having said that, your name calling only gets in the way or, takes away, from what you have to say. Not very relevant, however, I know how emotional one can get on any certain subject. My hot button is illegal immigration.
Don’t get me started….
#75
wino is trying to do you the same favor I’m trying to do for you:
Tell you how to get people to listen to you so you can get what you want.
But I guess as long as what you only want is to toss insults around, you’ll keep going in the direction you’re going in. Not caring whether people are reading your posts is no way to get people to read them, IMHO.
As soon as you get around to wanting to convince people, you’ll change your tactics, I suppose.
Not a flame…it’s advice just like Wino gave you.
Gotta go grab and steak, salad and baked ‘tator. See you guys later!
I’m sure that Kerry would have given all the current illegal immigrants amnesty and opened our borders even more. I guess at least with Kerry we would have had more museums, art and government.
#79 - Kerry is skerry! No telling what he would have done. Thank God we won’t have to know. He, IMHO, will never be elected, no matter how many times he runs. Surely the Dims see this. Saying that, he got so many votes in the last election because the Dims vote straight ticket on most everything. If Castro was running on the Dim ticket, the Dims would vote for him. With Dims, always party before country.
goodjobtim
#72
RE: FISH
Those trucks are not allowed to carry anything but fish due to the fact the fish is usually raw, frozen, covered with ice and in some cases there is live seafood/fish. This is to keep the outfit from carrying anything else in “FISH” vehicles such as chemicals that could spill on the floors and migrate to the food product.
The reason why fish can only go in trucks marked fish is that fish can’t move on land very well and need to know where to go. Could you imagine a fish getting on a rail car marked with metro?
#80 I think a lot of people forget that the options instead of Bush could have been Gore or Kerry.
I’m stuck at home with my 2 kids 1 8 months & the other almost 3 years (mom is on a MNO Mothers night out well deserved!). I just watched Bob the Builder for the 4th time. I was doing an experiment to see how many times he would watch it. As long as I keep putting in the CD he will watch it! I wish I had that kind of staying power!I’m beginning to wonder about Bob The Builder though, he doesn’t have a girlfriend…
I have another question for yous guys… What is the best movie you have seen available now on video? Interpreter was terrible. Crash was OK
I got Undead for tonight after the kids are in bed lol, I just love those zombie movies,
The best zombie movie I ever saw was “Shaun of the Dead” That was really funny. Time to put these litlle… to bed. I wouldn’t have it any other way.
#82 - Don’t pay to see movies. I can’t in my right mind “support” these Hollywierd wackos. I particularly liked the Lord of the Rings set though. I also own Pirates of the Carribbean. I love that movie! Now I hear there is a Pirates II coming out. My niece thought “Walk the Line” was the best movie made, but I don’t know if it is out on video.
I have friends that say they went to see
“Brokedick Mountain” whats the point!?
#77) I must disagree. The best way to get someone to read your post is to be brief. Nothing will make me turn away from a posting more quickly than endless repetition of the same, or similar, points. Whether the reader is willing to follow you should be irrelevant. That choice lies with them.
Phil’s reference to “Slick Georgie II” is mere icing on the cake.
#82 - Bob the builder doesn’t have a girlfriend? Not that there is anything wrong with that!
Keep up the “kid work!” They grow up so fast! You get a 5 star rating in my book by giving your wife some time on her own!
Now, go watch “Bob the Builder, again!”
I’m in agreement, and also the worst offender (for posts that are too long).
But I really was trying to help out phil. His points are obscured by his vitriol. It also makes his posts longer.
I just watched Bob the Builder for the 7th time…
I’m sure I can run a city now! Maybe I will move back to Houston and run for Mayor.
#87 - Wino, Spot on! Save it, its a collector’s item.
#88 - Smacktle - You would make a GREAT mayor, IMHO!
Another genuine neocon “Spot on!”
I’m keeping this one. I gave my others away.
#90 - Wino
I had a lot of them to start out with and in accordance with my giving nature, handed them out liberally.
Now, they are few and far between, so hang on to yours! You never know what you can trade it for in the future.
The Score is Denver 10; New England 3! Woo Hoo! Go Denver (and QB, off. coach Kubiak)!
Smacktle
#84
Oh no you did not say what I thought I saw you said. I knew “it” was coming.
RE: Verbose Verbiage Posts
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Your entripid Moderator, that being me, is more than likely to miss a hidden flame. But I did not tell you that. I agree with Willie, brevity is the best way to make a point. Most people skip over the longer screeds errr umm posts.
I guess sarge is the least-read poster on here! Sorry sarge, I actually do read most of what you write.
Sarge is my hero. He puts his a## on the line every item he posts. The man is a myth, a God, a legend…
If you are a God of LST does that really mean anything? I love you Sarge!
#96 - Keep it up Smackle - you are really getting close to a genuine neocon “spot on”!
Sarge, keep ‘em coming!
Smacktle
#96
“He puts his a## on the line every item he posts.”
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Which is much better than some who show up here and show their a$$ with every item they post.
If you like Zombie movies, Undead is a movie with an Australian cast and I’m sure that Sarge is the guy with the hat! That guy kicked some a##!
I like Japanese or Chinese movies that have dubbed American voice overs. The movies stink but watching the mouths and the words coming out is always good for a laugh.
Wow New England is really stinking up the game with the Broncos.
DAMN! Looks like Denver is going to win… I was
hoping they would lose so we could have Kubiak sooner than later! If the Rockets keep losing, will they get a #1 draft pick… you flip the coin…
I think they should take Dosiank from USSR.
81 Squawk, Your fish expalanation is wrong. I have worked with many distributors like Sysco and others that deliver to restuarants. They carry everything in those trucks. Degreaser, flour, fish, meat, toilet paper.
I knew once the reason for the FISH label being necessary. Had more to do with un licensed vendors selling fish. The fish designation identified the vendor as one selling or distributing seafood, and being licensed to do so. I will get more specifics on Monday.
Smack
#102
I’m about to make one of these for the Rockets.
Feagan
#103
I just remember what it said when I took the test 200 years ago.
Actually 30 years ago not 200
Smack, games not over yet. I hope the Bronco’s kick some New England A**!
I’m beginning to think that Feagan knows everyting about everything. I should not know I am trucking industry. Only Yoda (Feagan) knows.
The Rockets have really peed me off! I have season tickets over the last 5 years. Francis gone, what a relief! (RECENTLY WAS SUSPENDED BY MAGIC FOR NOT WILLING TO GO BACK INTO A GAME) surprise, surprise!
The Rockets need a power forward besides…
Stromile Swift sucks bring on Artest…
(I actually stood behind the Rockets bench and expressed that). They need more help. When they get the help. They will conquer the NBA… Mark my words. Rockets will win another championship in the next 2 years.
Sooooo much for the New England Pats dynasty huh?
If the Rockets don’t win the NBA finals in the next 3 years… I will make my wife run naked down Allen
Parkway for 2 miles!
Smacktle
#108
“Mark my words. Rockets will win another championship in the next 2 years.”
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Ummm OOOOOKAY. I hope so. Don’t think so, but I do hope so.
Smacktle
#110
Your wife does not read LST does she? C’mon fess up.
my honey reads rightmom.net and she is not home yet…sshhhhh. I keep telling her to read LST,
she says thats a mans man blog… Thank GOD!
Smacktle
#113
Uh Huh I did not think so. If you don’t show up for a couple weeks we will know that she has started reading LST.
Here is my email addy so she can tell me where to send a get a well card to you.
squawkbox@lonestartimes.com
I am closing down. I love u guys. Wife will be here in 10 minutes and I am working on her laptop, roger over under jacktop billy over…
I love you squack big hug for yuo I will email you my love soon over.
If Carol Keaton Rylander McClellan Strayhorn Crosby Still Nash Young Hall and Oates was my grandma I’d divorce her as my grandma and slap my Grandad for marrying her. Geez she is annoying.
Lets see, if Kinky married Carol she would be Kinky Carol Keaton Freidman and they would have some really ugly babies and live happily ever after.
Smacktle
#116
Ummm I’m spoken for but feel free to drop me a line anytime.
I’m just going to mosey over to Allen Parkway and look for nekkid running babes.
Wino #119 There have been flashers out towards Herman Park lately. Guys mind you, but flashers just the same. Probably will be a small show anyway.
I heard about him…
What was his name in the 1970’s?
“And they call him the streak!
Fastest thing on two feet!
He always makes the new,
wearing just his tennis shoes.
And they call him the streak!”
Wino
Wasn’t that Ray Stevens that did that song.
“Don’t Look Ethyl!!!”
But I was too late
She got mooned.
I went streaking once. No one noticed.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/3588009.html
Though I wish ill on no man, I think this is a bit too glowing.
Why didn’t he stop the yellow journalism that’s prevalent at the Chronic-Lies NOW?
I hope that this heralds a change to honest, unbiased reporting.
I’m not holding my breath while waiting, though.
Ray Stevens… I think so. I never streaked. If you got it flaunt it, they said.
I was waiting for instructions for those of us with unflauntability.
Re: 124
I got this far and puked
Richard J.V. Johnson, who kept the Houston Chronicle on a trajectory of growth and improvement despite tumultuous times in a changing etc etc.
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Growth? Yeah when the Post folded and then it has been steady downhill from there.
Improvement? Ok if you are a liberal yeah I guess you could say it improved.
One more Chronicle slam. They also expirienced growth when they went from morning/evening to straight morning. They never counted evening circulation so the morning circ grew when those evening only people took the morning paper.
Wino
#125
Ok I guess that would be the long and short of that discussion.
Sorry man it was there I had to shoot the moon on it. That is the naked truth too. I really would not try to make you the butt of some joke that flashed through my mind.
#76
Why build a wall when you can make
a canyon?
Cars: Family Sedan 4 door
length abt. 20′
weight abt 2 tonnes
1959 Buick LaSabre_ __ _ _
Cruise_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 75 mph @
Fuel Consumption_ _ _ _18 mpg
Max Continueous speed 110 mph
Max Speed _ _ _ _ _ _ 122 mph
Seating - - - - - - - 6
Analogue Clock - listen to it tick
full size adults
Sleeps _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _2
#128
I’m not sure, but I think that many bad jokes in a single post is against some Texas law.
Squawk, you’re on a roll! Downhill, but still on a roll!
#130 & #131
Trust me I can get much worse, but I best not. I ahd more jokes fly into my head than is legal and faster than I can type.
#132 - Squawk, I can just see that mind o’ yours a ‘whirlin!
Neocon Too many years alone in the cab will do that to ya.
Squawk, you may need “after-cab” counseling. It would call for you to man the wheel of a…
VW Beatle!
VW Beatle! Only if it is one of the originals.
Good night Gracie
Good night Chet / Good night David
Say Good night Dick / Good Night Dick
Good night Johnboy
And to All A Good night
A Prince loves a good fight but a princess loves a good Knight
Remember what Squawk was saying about a hangover? I’d appreciate it if someone could come over to Casa de Bramanti about noon and stuff a half-dozen aspirin down my throat.
Mothra couldn’t beat Godzilla, but the Flying Saucer wrecked Mattzilla tonight.
#80
The Dems would not vote for Castro just ’cause of party, they love that guy. Their heads would burst into flames if they had to decide between him and Chaves(z?) though.
Seriously though, we joke about and have our opinions on why they are endeared with Castro but has anyone ever heard one of them explain why?
#81 (FISH topic)
That makes sense to me, thanks maybe now I can sleep at night.
Hey Smacktle,
Bob the Builder has it bad for Wendy. You can feel the tension when ever she is around.Bob loves it when Wendy touches her
http://www.rmpbs.org/images/kids/Bob_the_Builder.jpg
I’ve watched the Wee Sing Rock Candy Mountain video more than I saw The Rocky Horror Picture Show when I was a teenager.
Speaking of Rocky. That was our generations Brokeback Mountain. We were gay before it was cool.
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000055WK4.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
You are one sick little doggy!
The one rule I have in my house is no BARNEY.
I refuse to see him EVER!
Why do cowboys wear denim condoms?
Because they are shrink to fit.
For you fisherman out there:
FW: Lake Sam Rayburn alligator gar
and this:
FW: Incredible Fishing Video
#144
Oops sorry, can’t figure out how to link it, really good too.
The Chinese are claiming they discovered America first.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4609074.stm
They might have a point. If you look very closly at that map you will see this as proof.
http://www.stahlconstruction.com/Images/ImagesPROJECTS/Retail/Wal-mart-2.jpg
#146 - and by a eunuch no less! That would give hope that Bramanti could someday accomplish something monumental in his life.
#147
Tacky, tacky!
Having read all the posts since I returned from my Compound Escape Route Recon, I find that I am a God and a Legend (Sargezilla?).
I promise that I will use this Power only for Good, Truth, Justice, and the American Way. And to convince Domino’s in Rosenberg that delivery of a pizza to a point 700 feet outside the city limits will not result in the Death of Western Civilization.
I began on this road to Greatness when, in the summer of 1973, my unit became recognized as having the First Confirmed Military Streaker within its ranks. Those who don’t like my long posts can stop now. Others, more interested in Important Military History of the Late 20th Century may read on.
It was the time for the annual picnic at Medicine Bluffs park at Fort Sill. A new Second Lieutentant had been detailed to get the beer.
Since his only experience at such a mission was limited to getting beer for parties at Tappa Kegga Day, or whatever fraternity he belonged to, he bought four kegs. This caused oohs and ahhhs of appreciation throughout the ranks when he showed up at then little park on the post, and many stern glances of approbation from the wives of the greater majority of the ooohers and aahhhers.
The day wore on as the kiddes flitted happily back and forth among the various playground accesories, and the wives kept close eye on the fathers and stepfathers of said kiddies to insure that they did not go back to the Ways of the Enlistedman they were indulging in when they first met. At around 4PM all of the homemade potatoe salad, cole slaw, cookies and cakes had been scarfed down. All of the burgers and dogs had been grilled and the buns toasted. Appetites had been sated, with the possible exception of the married men as it applied to thos 4 kegs of beer. There were even empty bottles of mustard and ketchup still on the picnic tables. But, alas, there we still two full kegs of beer left.
It was at this point that Captain Clayton G. Culver made the fateful decision that endeared him in the hearts and minds of Enlisted Men everywhere by declaring the best way to dispose of the kegs would be to have the single guys take them back to the barracks, and piock up the empties on Monday. (Note: there is some speculaton that CPT Culver’s wife was a bit nearsighted and was not able to steer him away from the kegs with the same skill as other wives did, and this contributed to the decision).
Picture in your mind, if you will, a dozen guys in various states of fatigue dress beside an old WW2 barracks with not one, but TWO, trashcans full of ice and beer keg. More guys arrive as HQ Co becomes THE place to be on a hot Oklahoma Saturday Summer Evening. Tears still come to my eyes at the memory. Glory and praise be heaped upon Captain Culver for all his days! Guys, we had so much beer, everybody left their dope in the car, THAT’S how much beer we had.
Eventually conversation drifted away from eac man finding variuos and sundry ways to extoll the virtues of Captain Culver (and the real tragedy here is that the name of the LT who bought the beer has been lost to history) and moved towards the important news of the day: Streaking. It was noted that there had not yet been a Military Streaker and since HQ Co was Commanded by the Greatest Captain of all time, we needed to further grace the honor of the Company and the Military as a whole, by laying claim to this honor.
Next, we needed a suitable candidate. The various attributes of those present were discussed. Andy, who had played second string footbal at LSU until he had tried to rob a gas staion with a Red Ryder BB gun while drunk as a preacher and ordered into the military by the judge, was briefly considered as he had thebest physique. Unfortunately, he had been consuming beer since the 4 kegs had shown up at Medecine Bluff and it was determined that the mission called for someone with an ability to run naked as opposed to someone who could merely crawl.
Finally..and fatefully…a “newbie” was spottted in the crowd (he shall remain nameless, as my memory of the entire period 1972-74 is a bit sketchy anyway). This kid was from Arkansas, stood 6 feet tall, and weighed about 3 pounds. He was so skinny he had to jump up and down in the shower to get wet. I mean, he could hide behind a chain link fence. If he turned sideways and stuck out his tounge, he looked like a zipper…get the picture here? Not only that, he was quite possibl the most unatheltic person in the history of mankind, and for some reason, the sum bleached his skin rather than tan it. Not an ounce of muscle hung on his frame, he quite literally looked like a plastic grovery sack full of bones when not clothed. More importantly, he couldn’t hold his beer very well and, in the state he was in, could be talked into practically anything.
Once the importance of the act was explained to him (along with telling him how much the Great Captain Culver would appreciate the honor), he agreed. He shucked his OG 107s (for some reason, he put his cap back on), stepped into his combat boots (it was remarked by one of the bystanders that this made him look like a stork standing in two empty artillery casings), then ran to the corner and back again, to replace his clothing (missing several buttons on his blouse in the process). Many huzzahs and words of appreciation were expressed. Great fun had been had and discussion then turned to how we would alert the media.
In a short while, that problem was answered, and our errors in both candidate for execution of the Mission and the Area of Operations in which to perform it were revealed. HQ Co was the last barracks in a line and stood at a corner. Across the main street was Post Army Airfield and to it’s west was a small tennis court. Unfortunately, to the west of the tennis court was a group of NCO Dependent housing, and the tennis net did NOT occlude the view of the Act in any way, shape, or manner. Further complicating this was that, in the waning hours of sunlight, the young man’s exceedingly white body reflected the yellow and orange hues of a gorgeous Oklahoma Sunset, further calling attention to him. What the good mothers (and possibly a few children) saw running down the road was a bright orange toothpick with arms and legs, wearing a fatigue cap and combat boots running naked in the sunset.
It took three MP cars mere moments to surround the crowd (we weren’t moving fast anyway). They immediatly arrested Andy (who apparently appreared to them to be the one amongst us drunk enough to have perfomred the act), and several otheres who protested this miscarraige of justice. They then instructed us to take the kegs into the barracks, upon which it was decided that, in this case, discretion would be the better part of valor.
For the next 6 months, Enlisted Housing at Post Army Airfield was designated as a “riot prone area” with increased MP patrols who carried along K9 units. For some reason, this streaking was not honared as it should, and to this day is not mentioned in the USAFAAC (Prov) Unit History risiding at Carlisale Barracks, PA.
But now, I reveal this to you as part of my crusade to insure that Miltary Events of this nature not be relegated to the dustbin of history.
Hoo—-AHHHHHH!
#149 Sarge
While long, it’s true, that was SOME story. Having been around a few keggers, as the concerned wife of an errant NCO… I could quite easily picture the whole fiasco - and thank you for the biggest laugh I’ve had today.
I believe Mattzilla is feeling pretty poorly about now.
Thanks, Sue…I knew somebody here would have had some kind of personal experience in thes areas. Mine just occasioned me to enjoy a brief brush with History, that’s all.
BTW, Mattzilla;
You should alert your newly minted Second Lieutenant brother how stories that begin like this:
“A new Second Lieutentant had been detailed to get the beer.”
evenutally end up. It may be the best advice of his career.
Also, keep him away from the combination of map and compass….
149
An orange toothpick? So much beer the dope was left in the car? Priceless, Sarge. I think I have developed a hernia from laughing. If this is common fare for weekend open threads I must take the time to check in more often on the weekends. Salud!
MattZilla did the DrinkZilla
Got Homeland Security?
I think not!
http://www.dailybulletin.com/news/ci_3404101
Sorry for whinning Bigs.
Alive and well, Shannon. I’m on my way to give blood. I believe it will flow faster than usual today.
Shannon;
I breifly considered “orange toothpick with a penis” but finally came to the determination that the historical record does not conatina dequate description of that important part of the story to insure that this body part was visible from the Dependent Hosuing area. Being a dedicated Historian, I can only keep to those descriptions of events that can be proven, or which are obvious. Thus, we stay with “Arms and Legs” and leave other body part descriptions to conjecture by the reader.
Smacktle:
You sound like a pretty good husband to be looking after the kids while your wife was out. Good Job!
I used to watch Bob the Builder a lot with my son (he is 5 now). Bob does have a girl in his life: Wendy. You have to give him a little slack; he is a small business owner in a nanny run city. The paper work is horrible!! Between all of those whiney machines and having to “baby” them to get them to work, and the paperwork and taxes, how could he have enough time to woo the fair Wendy?
Tell your wife “thanks” for reading rightmom.net for me!
Ree-C “Rightmom” Murphey
P.S. Be careful of the promises you make….. they can come back to bite you sometimes.
156
Matt, perhaps your blood donation should be marked for distillation purposes only!
#155
I can say without any fear of contradiction that the Mexican Military has crossed our border, and we thiers, hundreds, if not thousands of times since 1847. In 1915 thier military actually engaged in raiding parties in Texas as far north as the King Ranch, and Pancho Villa breifly took voer the twon of Columbus, NM in March of 1916 and burned part of it, despite the fact that there were two Companies of Cavlary encamped next to the Railroad station, across the street from the burned block.
We crossed their border n many times in pursuit of Apaches and Commanches in the late 19th Century, and in pursuit of bandits in the early 20th. Theh did the same, and for the same reasons.
Since, during that same period we were able to survive a vicious Civle War, win a War with Spain in 1898, and two World Wars with a Depression in between, as well as build the Greatest Capitalist Economy in the history of Civilization providing our citizens with the best quality of life on the planet; combined with the fact that the numbers and frequency of the incursions described in your post pale in comparison to those in the historical record, I remain confident that the Republic remains strong and will continue to remain so, especially since Presidential and Congressional efforts have been stepped up recently to address the problem.
#160
I know the Republic remains strong…I heard Clinton mutter it over and over when he was prez but you seem to have missed the main point. The mexi gov is running drugs into the US (as per BP reports)! But hey, who cares!
This is very funny!
The Perfect Quarterback
The coach had put together the perfect team for the New Orleans Saints.
The only thing missing was a good quarterback. He had scouted all the colleges and even the Canadian and European Leagues, but he couldn’t find a ringer who could ensure a Super Bowl victory.
Then one night, while watching CNN, he saw a war-zone scene in Afghanistan . In one corner of the background, he spotted a young Afghan Muslim soldier with a truly incredible arm. He threw a hand-grenade straight into a window from 80 yards away. Then he
threw another from 50 yards down a chimney, and then hit a passing car at 60 yards.
I’ve got to get this guy!” coach said to himself. “He has the perfect arm!”
So, he brings the young Afghan to the States and teaches him the great game of football . and sure enough the Saints go on to win the Super Bowl.
The young Afghan is hailed as a hero of football, and when the coach asks him what he wants, all the young man wants to do is call his mother.
“Mom,” he says into the phone, “I just won the Super Bowl!”
“I don’t want to talk to you,” the old Muslim woman says. “You deserted us. You are not my son!”
“Mother, I don’t think you understand,” pleads the son, “I’ve just won the greatest sporting event in the world!”
“No! let me tell you,” his mother retorts. “At this very moment there are gunshots all around us. The neighborhood is a pile of rubble. Your two brothers were beaten within an inch of their lives last week, and I have to keep your sister in the house so she
doesn’t get raped!”
The old lady pauses then tearfully says,
” I will never forgive you for making us move to New Orleans!”
Matt You didn’t get own3d did you?
#162
That would not be funny especially if its a sharpie.
#163
No sharpies - especially in for people in a hemodilute condition!
Before I get ready to head out to find a new home I bring you this. Finally an actor doing something useful.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48347
His three brothers are spinning in their graves.
What? His brothers aren’t dead?
The careers of his three brothers are spinning in their graves.
Actually, I think there are only two brothers. Adam Baldwin is not related.
But Stepehn is the only brother who has actually learned somethjing from cleaning up his act, so to speak, regarding a life of drugs, booze, and loose morals.
Hey Matt
Don’t ya just hate porcelain pillows?
Look a portable toilet for the mobile drunk.
The German’s have a shelf toilet. Trust me these things are no fun to use in any condition. Stand way away when you flush.
Then again this may or not be a welcome site when one is in a hurry.
For those that fear getting stranded without the necessary paper products may I suggest this.
Don’t ya just love toilet humor?
So y’all the gauntlet has been cast down. Keep it clean but let’s see if anyone can beat this post.
Ummm Sarge there are more Baldwins than fleas
http://www.konary.com/alec/baldws.html
Hey Matt
Maybe a little Alka Seltzer will help.
#169
Well, my apologies. so many people confuse Adam Baldein as being a member of the family, I though that was what was being referred to.
Squawk,
just to let you know. I just deleted myself. That was even to much for me.
gregg
#172
Huh?
sargevining
#171
I wasn’t being testy, I thought you meant there wasn’t many Baldwins.
#174,,,didn’t take it testy…maybe I got that way when I found out there were more of them than I thought.
OK…
My feeble attempt at making at least as bad a joke as Squawko did
Two fish are in a tank. One turns to the other and says:
“Bet you didn’t think I could drive this thing.”
Squawk,
I was going to add to your #168 humor. After I thought about it I deleted it and didnt post. You would have gotten it before too long anyway.
Matt, hope you had fun! Just remember, your head will feel better when it quits working!
Matt, I meant to say your head will feel better when it quits hurting! Don’t know where my fingers found that one!
neocon
#179
I liked working better.
Squawkbox #180
I must have picked up some subliminal thought from somewhere.
A 155 year tradition ends:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-ar.marines13jan13,1,2599885.story?coll=bal-local-arundel
Why? The answer is here:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-ar.marines13jan13,1,2599885.story?coll=bal-local-arundel&ctrack=1&cset=true
#182 - Argus
I don’t “register” with newspapers. They want too much of my info for my taste. Anywhere else you could get your stories/articles?
Argus;
I’m not getting it. Both stories say essentially the same thing.
Further more:
“The mission of the unit has also changed over time. The Marines began guarding the gates in 1987 after a long hiatus. They had not manned the gates since the Spanish-American War.”
Not being there from 1898 - 1987 represetns a break of 89 years in the supposed 155 year tradition.
If you are referring to this:
“That policy led to a confrontation between a Marine guard and then-Superintendent Richard J. Naughton at Gate 3 on New Year’s Eve 2003, which triggered a military probe that led to Naughton’s resignation.”
I doubt this is the real story behind the change of station since the story also says:
“The decision was partly influenced by the global war on terrorism but had been in the works before that, said Marine Corps spokeswoman Lt. Elle Helmer.”
I’ve been aware of discussions with the Corps to end those assignments of Marines to largely ceremonial duties such as this. It seems that then only tradition most commanders are willing to hold on to are the one of Marines serving as Embassy guards, as these have a real life military function than some of the others.
Re:
Argu
Here ya go Neocon
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/13/AR2006011301753.html
Bob Ney has quit his post as Chairman of the House Administration Committee because of his alleged dealings with Abramoff.
Interesting.
#186 headshaker
It looks like all the rats from the U$$ Abramoff are abandoning that sinking ship.
Let’s see how many end up going down.
Good by, Bob. Don’t let the door hit you on your way out. Let’s hear your story, and see who else should meet you outside.
Denny Hastert asked him t leave. One wonders when the Dems will be doing the same with thier folks tainted by this….
Calling for the resignation of Harry Reid…or at least for him to give the $62,000 back to the indians who gave it to him to write that letter to the Interior Secretary for them….
#188 - sarge - how did I know what you were going to write?
What’s your point about Hastert asking him to leave?
Do you still believe that all these guys are innocent victims?
#188 - Sarge,
Don’t think that will happen any time soon. You will hear them scream that they never took money from Abramoff, but just took it from the Indian Reservations/Casinos. Sure…Apply the same standard to the Dims as are applied to the Pubbies and you will hear from screaming Dean on it.
Yeah, when WILL the Dems be doing the same with thier folks tainted by this? All we are going to hear is Republicans Republicans Republicans ad nauseum.
And I don’t even want to hear the argument of “but you always bring in the democrats”. That is a bogus argument. Abram gave funds to the Dems also. So lets see some of their teets in the wringer also. Let’s see some criticism of them too.
Squawk, “teets in the wringer”? Ouch!
squawk, no one is arguing that the Dems are innocent.
However, certain Republicans - DeLay (who called Abramoff one of his closest friends), Ney, and Bush - were clearly much closer to Abramoff PERSONALLY and professionally.
Mark my words, this will be much worse for the Republicans than the Democrats, even though some Dems will fall.
headshaker
And from my post above
Republicans Republicans Republicans ad nauseum.
#193, etc. Shakey - that questionable propiety of that closeness was exactly Hastert’s point to Ney.
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060114/NEWS06/601140474/1012
#193 - Mark my words, the Dims will circle the wagons around their guys, defending whatever it comes out they did (see my post above). They will continue to throw as much mud as they can against the Republicans and claim that this is just a Republican problem.
Anyone who is guilty in taking illegal funds should be booted, Republican or Democrat. Difference is Republicans will end it, Democrats will forever defend their bad guys.
The DNC with the willing accomplices called the MSM is notorious for using deflection when crap like this hits the fan. It does not matter that a sizble portion of the austere group of Democrats is just as guilty as the Republicans, the Republicans are worse because there was more. Or so they say. It is also called beating to the punch. All bogus arguments to make one side look better than the other.
I am done ranting now. Go on with your rat killin.
You people are still missing the point. Abramoff was a CLOSE, PERSONAL FRIEND of DeLay and many other Republicans. His ties to the Bush administration and the GOP dwarf his ties to the Democrats. You can spin it anyway you want, but you’re peeing in the wind. Yeah, some Dems will be implicated, but the reason you’re not hearing about the Dems from the Republicans is the Republicans know how bad this is for them. Going after the Dems is only going to open up more cans of worms. The Republicans are trying to minimize the damage which may not be possible.
Of course, those who can’t separate themselves from the party line won’t see this as usual. But you’re in for a wake-up call over the next few months.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-05-06-abramoff-bush_x.htm
#189
The point, that the other guys get, is that the Dems are as deep in this as the Pubbies are…the difference is that they are keepping thier money and positiosn and doing nothing to clean themselves up.
The Dems seem interested only in ending Rep[ublican corruption, keeping thiers tightly under wraps so they can make the most advantage of it if they are lucky enough to win the majority.
It’s my understanding that Matrzilla signed on as a distributor of this product last nite:
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Do you suffer from shyness?
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#199 sarge - the Dems are not in as deep; show me where a Dem called Abramoff “one of his closest friends”. Show me the extent of contacts and ties to the Dems that has been shown between Abramoff and the Republicans.
If the Dems were in this just as deep, the Republicans would be all over it, and they’re not. Do you ever ask yourself why? Geez.
You wonder why I shake my head.
BTW shakey, I never said any of these creeps were innocent victims. That’s one of those “Do you still beat your wife?” questionspeople have been pointing out lately.
My stand has ALWAYS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE to toss out any and all of the bums, no mattere party or postition.
The point of fact is that when Republicans get wind of scandals like this, thier supporters cry fould and have them replaced. When it happens to Dems they say
“Everybody lies about sex.”
“This is the result of a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.”
and other such justifications to keep them in office.
BTW…what’s you take on the Wiliam Jefferson thing?
#202 - there you go again sarge, breaking your own rules by changing the subject.
Please stop answering questions with questions. I’m focused on the present, not the past.
And sarge, check this out:
http://bodegabay.blogs.com/north_coast_curmudgeon/2005/11/democratic_scan.html
Seems that Democrats in scandals have been dealt with quite adequately.
No Shakey
The point is exactly as I described in post 197. Actually it the same argument El Clintony DOTI put forth. “It’s only sex” and the SOB lied under oath. Only this time with the Dems it’s “yeah we took the money” but we did not do anything wrong. They learned their lessons well. And the democratic FISH just suck it up.
Hastert did the right thing by asking Ney to step down. Do you think the democraps will do the honorable thing and have their clowns step down? NOPE.
Yeah yeah yeah it is ALL the Republicans.
Squawkie, AGAIN you miss my point. No one is arguing that certain Dems are not culpable. Can you understand that statement (no offense intended)?
The point is that this is a BIGGER Republican problem because Abramoff was much closer to the GOP. If it wasn’t, the GOP would be all over the Dems and they’re not.
Not sure what else I have to do to get you to stay on my topic. You keep commenting on something I’ve already acknowledged and agreed with you on several times.
Shakey
No offense taken. That is not in my nature.
Me thinks this is going to get the old special prosecutor treatment and some heads will role, but it will not make it as high as the presidency. It will be suggested and implied but it won’t get legs to impeachment.
Could cause the republicans to lose their majorities but I think that in the long run that will be more of a natural function of the vote than any accusations or convictions because of big ABE.
Squawkie, I knew you’d see the light! I was getting worried that those truck fumes were bothering you tonight!
I’m not saying it’s going to the top either, I’m just saying it’s going to be worse for the Republicans in the long run because of the nature of the relationships between them and Abramoff vs. the Dems and Abramoff.
Now I can go to bed! Phew!
Shakey;
You can go through those at the bottom, but that’s just the tip of the iceberg where the Dems and Abramoff are concerned. In the interest of co plete honesty and to show that I anm not the one sided person others who post here are, there is the acomplete list of who received what and how much from Abramoff:
http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff_recips.asp
The Repubs are taking care of the Repubs on that list…what are the Dems doing?
You can’t or won’t answer that one.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051213/D8EFER900.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,179088,00.html
http://www.sptimes.com/2003/07/09/Opinion/All_in_the_family.shtml
http://nrsc.org/newsdesk/document.aspx?ID=1362
http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/102005/news3.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/state/california/2004-02-11-pelosi-pac-fined_x.htm
http://www.fec.gov/press/press2004/20040326murs.html
sarge,
Dorgan never met Abramoff, whereas DeLay called him “one of my closest friends”. You proved my point in your first link. I appreciate it.
headshaker
I have had a bit of a bad day today, sorry for my shortness above. I don’t have too many bad days fortunately.
squawkie, I’m sorry to hear that. No need to apologize. I hope things are better tomorrow.
headshaker
#212
Thanks amigo.
Shakey;
You post makes my point Re: the Dems keeping thier rqascals in office. From your post:
“Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1981 to present. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman’s Washington apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed and a motion to censure him failed.”
Mr. Frank is still in office and will take over a chairmanship if the Dems get a majority.
“Alcee Lamar Hastings - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida. Impeached and removed from office as federal judge in 1989 over bribery charges.” Still in office.
“Edward Moore Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne.”
Still in office
“John Murtha, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting, in which FBI agents impersonating Arab businessmen offered bribes to political figures; Murtha was cited as an unindicted co-conspirator and testified against two House colleagues. Recently called for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.”
His brother is also a Defense Lobbyist. Murtha will become Chairman of the Defense Appropriations Committe if the Dems gain the majority.
“Bill Richardson - Democrat - Governor of New Mexico. For about four decades, Richardson, often mentioned as a possible Democratic presidential candidate, has maintained that he was drafted by the A’s. But an investigation by the Albuquerque Journal found no record of Richardson being drafted by the A’s or any other team. Informed by the newspaper of its findings, the governor acknowledged the error in a story in Thursday’s editions. “After being notified of the situation and after researching the matter … I came to the conclusion that I was not drafted by the A’s,” Richardson said. He said he had believed it was true based on an old program from an amateur team he had played for.”
Governor of New Mexico, and now revealed as a groper.
“Bobby Lee Rush - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois. As a Black Panther, spent six months in prison on a weapons charge.”
“Maxine Waters - Democrat - U.S. Representative from California since 1991. A December 2004 Los Angeles Times investigation disclosed how members of the congresswoman’s family have made more than $1 million in the past eight years by doing business with companies, candidates and causes that Waters has helped.”
Still in office…
and these aren’t the ones tied to Abramof!
Shakey;
One does not have to meet someone, or even be freinds, to become a scumbag by taking his money.
My first post, BTW, shows everybody who took money, not just Dorgan. It is interesting though that he took money from Abramoff while sitting ona committee investigating Abramoff…what do you make of that?
OK, well, I’ll tell you what I make of it.
If you’re going to take a bribe from someone while investigating them, it’s best you never meet……
sarge, in #214 - no one is arguing that with you. What part of that don’t you get?
#215 - not arguing that point either.
You keep avoiding my point though. Methinks you studied those Liberal Rules of Debate a little too much.
#216 sarge - spoken like a true Liberal! Wow!
BTW…if they never met…how did Dorgan get to hold a fundraiser in Abramoff’s skybox?
#219 - certainly that’s possible sarge. You’re reaching now to try and score points.
The bottom line is this: I’m on tonight, and you’re off. If it was a tennis match it would be 6-0, 6-0. I think I’ll quit while I’m way a-head.
Goodnight.
I don’t get your point at all…you keep saying it’s “worse” for the Republicans.
As mentioned before, that’s like saying the three guys who split 30% of the bank robbery proceeds are less guilty than the two guys who split the other 70%.
and IF the Dems keep on the track they are on, it will end up being worse for them, as it can be demostrated that
1. They did have ties with Abramoff and are trying to “aw shucks” thier way out of it.
2. They are trying to make other people look guilty while trying to keep any guilt away from themselves.
3. Aren’t punishing any of thier folks who did (that post of yours did not includin ANY Democrat involved.
4. They are keeping the money
To tell the truth, I think the Pubbies are handling this very well, and it’s the Dems who will end up holding the dirty end of the stick.
Sarge, what about Nancy Polosi and her ethics problems. Unlike Delay, there were no indictments, even though she did the exact same Delay did. Got off with a $190,000 fine. She’s still in office.
One more prediction here:
Delay will not win the primary.
A poll in the Comical today points out that the only way that Lampson wins over any Conservative Republican, Delay included, only if Stockman runs as an independent.
But Delay is not doing well against his Republican challengers. The only thing he’s got going for him right now is the closeness of the primary. For some damn reason, Republicans who are tainted don’t do as well as the Barny Frnaks and Ted Kennedey’s of the world.
#222 - you’re comparing apples and curtains. It was a $21,000 fine by the way.
ahhhhh…
The “Viet Nam” strategy: Declare victory and pull out.
Actually Shakey, the $21,000 fine is just the latest for Ms Pelosi
ayway…now I will resort to the Viet Nam strategy, declare victory, and go to bed.
Sarge you need a promotion. Good work.
One can say what ever about Republicans.
but
Thank G_D we have them as an alternative to
the Dims.
Lets see. Sarge posted #209 at 9:35 and listed several links, all of which were good.
HeadShaker commented in #210 at 9:37 - hardly time to go through Sarge’s links.
HeadShaker again replied at 9:40, 10:03, and 10:04.
HeadShaker, where is your credibility if you won’t even read the links Sarge provided?
Gone in my book.
Sarge’s #214 you ignore. #217 is a totally friggin dodge and #218 is weak as a newborn kitten!
Sarge got you on this, 6-0, 6-1, 6-2.
#229 - sarge dodged my main question all night. I agreed with most if not all of his points. He kept changing the subject like a good Liberal debater.
I only needed to look at his first link to validate my point. Why keep arguing with someone that won’t accept the truth?
Stay out of refereeing, it’s not your forte!
#230 - “Won’t accept the truth” give me a break.
Shaky, I take exception to that remark, that it is “not my forte”. This forum is for open comments — not just yours and Sarge.
I think I touched a nerve somewhere! You don’t like what I commented on and you are attacking me. Typical liberal tactics.
Not only at the top let’s go the bottom. Normal Democratic tactics here.
NORMAN THE PARANOID
Sun Jan 15, 6:00 AM ET
New York Post Online
OOOPS I GOT CAUGHT!!!!! And of course the race card gets played. Why does this not surprise me?
Wanna bet the prominent supporters are guilty as hell too?
Oh but wait, this is a great Clintonista dodge if I ever heard one. This guy is up for two more corruption charges btw.
I’ll let this next paragraph speak for itself. Remember that this story is taking place in Brooklyn. Btw the sky is blue.
So let’s play the race card. Nothing else has worked to keep this CRIMINAL out of jail.
I loathe playing the Clinton card, I wish he would go away, but ever since that clown beat the system it emboldened the Democrats to play every dirty trick in the world to stay out of trouble. The Republicans have only themselves to blame though. They gave up Newt on a BS charge, they gave up Lott on a trumped up racial charge so the DNC knows they can play any card and make the Republicans look bad. I have mentioned this before but the Republicans had the chance to remove Clinton and take the teeth out of the Democratic attack machine but the did not have the stomach to do the right thing. The Democrats are like little kids badgering there parents, they find an opening and pound and pound and pound till the adult gives up.
I think this Abramoff thing may be the thing the Republicans need. Clear out the flotsam and jetsam and get some people in office that have spines and the convictions of their beliefs. I doubt it but I can hope.
Headshaker,
You seem to think that because the statement “close personal friend” was used that this actually MEANS something in Washington DC.
It is false civility. Very similar to one side of the aisle calling the other side “distinguished” etc.
It means nothing at all, so quit bringing it up. It’s just a political phrase that means, “This guy contributed, and gets his picture taken with me to put up in his office or business.”
The Dems ARE trying to dodge this one, but it will blow up in their faces, just like all the other times. Americans (with an exception of 30% koolaid drinkers) don’t like duplicity. You lost the majority because of this kind of behavior. You’ll suffer again, as a party, if you continue.
And I’m lovin’ every minute of it. We IMPROVE our party by culling the crooks. You sabotage your party by sustaining the corrupt politicians you elect.
p.s. HS, go on to bed, you are just making it worse for your argument. People who cannot debate attack those who would debate them. I thought you were better than that! I’ve always respected your comments and never told you to back away or to stay out of it. Desparate, are you? You bet!
Y’all play nice. There is room in the sandbox for everyone. The only time I stay out is when I have seen the cats around it.
#234 - neo
All I asked was for sarge to answer my question, whether he agreed or not. He never did. He took his usual approach - he answered by attacking Liberals (which I’m not).
Sorry if I offended you; the “keeping score” thing was just having some fun.
Squawk, better reread #230
“Stay out of refereeing, it’s not your forte! :)”
How do you see that as not being a slam to me? Referreering? How about commenting? WTH does he think he is? What the hell does he know about “refereeing?”
You really ought to see it as it is, IMHO! He’s losing an argument and lashing out. I just pointed it out!
Closing the gate after the horse is out are we?
Senate Democrats Emphasizing Ethics, Not Alito
By Charles Babington
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, January 16, 2006
Sure thing that in the future the Democrats willl use the new act to ATTACK the opposition. Why looky here they admit that they do not have any solutions but to obstruct and attack.
Yeah sure it is those mean old corrupted Republicans. I knew it.
Did I call any names?
HeadShaker has never had a friend
that turned out to be a crook?
hmmm…
Doesn’t get out much?
Headshaker:
Not a problem for me if you were saying in “tongue in cheek”. I was just offended with what I would call a “non-Headshaker” comment. I respect you and your comments. Blindsided me, you did!
#241 - neo, the feeling is mutual. That’s enough love for tonight, I’m wiped.
Goodnight!
Double post, troll.
#243 See feagans blog on conspiracy theories.
Oops I’m sorry I meant headshakers blog