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21 Responses to “He was only following the Chronicle’s orders”
  1. malcolm on January 23rd, 2006 at 9:50 am

    If it wasn’t his survey, why all of the other response and rationalizations?
    Me thinks there’s a roach in the cubbard!

  2. An Observer on January 23rd, 2006 at 10:16 am

    Q. What was the point the Chron was hoping to make with their poll?
    Q. Did Dr. Murray support this predeterminied goal?
    Q. Why should we believe anything beyound the obvious that the Chron want to discredit Delay and generate the appearance that his district doesn’t support him either.
    Q. Has Delay been convicted of ANYRTHING?
    Q. Can any logical person give any amount of credance to anythiing political that the Chron prints?

  3. jimb on January 23rd, 2006 at 10:57 am

    Dr. Murray - I am not a ‘professional pollster’, but the critical flaw in the survey, to me at least, is that the Chronicle picked the sample population of the poll in such a way that would slant the results toward a pre-determined goal.

    How can you support that and stand behind the methodology of this poll? Maybe I am too ’stupid’ to understand…

  4. Big45Iron on January 23rd, 2006 at 11:13 am

    Dr. Murray’s response to me said that I’ll take any pile of manure (data) the Comical gives me, and I’ll throw a little perfume on it and try and tell you it’s bouquet of roses. The good professor’s name is all over his comments in public forums as to what he’s going to do to the GOP - and the groups he associates himself with indicate he is not non partisan.

    Saying it’s not his responsibility as to who the Comical polled is laughable at best, but pathetic in reality. Face it Dr. Murray…..you’d stuck your nose in a pile of dung, it you found it wasn’t a rose, no matter how much you wanted it to be.

  5. Maltboy! on January 23rd, 2006 at 11:23 am

    I find it interesting that he glosses over the problems related to the sample population (all registered voters versus confirmed primary voters) and blames it on the Chronicle. As a professional consultant, isn’t it incumbent upon him to advise his client on which population will provide the most accurate results?

  6. LTC on January 23rd, 2006 at 11:29 am

    Dr.Richard “your humble servant” “not my survey” “out of town at the Southern Political Science Association meeting in Atlanta” “assumed I would have no objection” “add one more income bracket” “I am personally a Democrat” “star-gazing Phd” Murray also said :

    “…Bush is much more vulnerable in 2004 than 2000…job approval rating… had fallen…squeaks by again in the electoral college…would be a two-time loser of the popular vote…Denied a popular mandate…more difficult to stack the Supreme Court with right wing appointees in 2005 and 2006…”
    http://www.political.com/analysis-arc/0536.html

    The 2004 Dr. Richard Murray “Squeaker”…
    Bush 62,040,606 votes with 286 electorial votes
    Kerry 59,028,109 votes with 252 electorial votes

    John Roberts is Chief Justice.
    Samuel Alito nominated and most likely will be confimed.

  7. Big45Iron on January 23rd, 2006 at 12:05 pm

    LTC, according to Dr. Murray, it depends upon what IS is.

  8. Big45Iron on January 23rd, 2006 at 12:10 pm

    Oh Dr. Murray!!! Look to the right. See the statistical sampling we can give you off 1,104 voters (likely all of them who do vote), 72% say that Teddy Kennedy is obnoxious. Could you please put your name on that too? Now in reality, it said he was the MOST obnoxious. I’ll bet if you pull all ten Democrats out of the poll, and just poll the Republicans, you’d find that 99% find Teddy obnoxious, and 73% would say he’s the most obnoxious. By the way, when this poll was taken, I was out of town and didn’t know about it, but after I looked at it, I found the numbers valid (Poop).

  9. eddhendee on January 23rd, 2006 at 12:31 pm

    Fascinating response - glad to share it. What’s interesting to me is that Chronicle and Dr. Murray are avowed DeLay haters and use the public funded facility of UH to perform slanted non-stnadard polls. The Chron wrote the story and then formed the poll with the help of the Democrat biased Dr. Bob Stein at Rice - then Dr. Murray did their bidding like an obedient servant. The real rub is that you supported this with your tax $$$ - UH is funded by State Legislature. Anyone care to guess what the response will be if we ask UH to run the opposite poll - i.e. asking Republicans if they will vote for Nick Lampson in the Democrat primary? I think we all know where that will end up - in the trash can in Dr. Murrays Democrat operative world headquarters…UH Center for Public Policy and Liberal advancement. See you in Austin Dr. Murray come budget time.

  10. jimbow on January 23rd, 2006 at 12:34 pm

    Dick Murrary’s “mentor” Bob Bullock was not Secretary of State in 1978 nor did he serve in Governor Briscoe’s administration. Bullock was Secretary of State under Governor Preston Smith from 1971-1972 and successfully ran for Comptroller of Public Accounts in 1974, 1978, 1982, and 1986. The professor is correct that Bullock didn’t care much for John Hill and even lent out some of his key staff members to eventual winner Governor Bill Clements’ campaign in 1978.

    On a lighter note, Mr. Bullock used to tell a story about being pulled over in downtown Austin one night after driving his car off the road. He escaped a DWI that evening by telling the officer that he wasn’t drunk — he just thought he saw John Hill walking on the sidewalk.

    I don’t think Dr. Murray is biased in his pollling. In fact, any errors in this poll are probably based on the client more than the pollster. But I do know this: I worked for Jack Rains (and also Bob Bullock) and the man knows how to read a poll. The Chronicle would be wise to acknowledge that there may be methodology problems and that polls are not perfect.

  11. malcolm on January 23rd, 2006 at 12:37 pm

    #9
    Well stated. Enjoyed your show this am (most always do) Your correct, they are using OUR tax dollars to support this!
    Go gettem’ Dan!

  12. SimpleSimon on January 23rd, 2006 at 12:39 pm

    To All,

    Dr Murray is right about one thing. If a poll’s results do not look good for a given candidate then we can expect that candidate and his supporters to condemn the poll and pollster.

    The reverse is also true. If a poll is favorable to a candidate, then the poll is cited by the candidate and his supporters will treat the pollster as a new found genius.

    The only poll that I pay attention to is the one taken at the ballot box.

    Simple

  13. Big45Iron on January 23rd, 2006 at 12:52 pm

    Edd #9, didn’t the good Dr. Murray do some of the polling for Metro?

  14. An Observer on January 23rd, 2006 at 2:54 pm

    I’ve been workng in the PC world for as long as there have been PC’s. One common joke about getting the desired outcome is: “when all else fails - manipulate the data”. I believe that’s exactly what Dr Murray, the Chron, and all others involved in this farce are guilty of. I just wish it was illegal to deceive voters with such illusions. Unfortunately, there are those that will believe whatever “crap” is printed.

  15. gregg on January 23rd, 2006 at 4:09 pm

    Bottom line. Would the Chron have published the pol if it showed Delay with overwhelming support? I dont think so. Would have been wadded up and thrown in the trash.

  16. malcolm on January 23rd, 2006 at 4:16 pm

    Wouldn’t it be nice if every home had a computer/internet connection and everyone was required to spend at least 30 minutes to one hour per weekday reading the posts on LST! That would certainly elevate the awareness/education level of the Sheeple, plus make them aware that everything that the Comical (and a lot of other papers)prints is not gospel.
    One can only dream!

  17. careysnyder on January 23rd, 2006 at 4:20 pm

    Dr. Murray’s page @ UofH is:
    http://www.polsci.uh.edu/faculty/murray/Default.htm
    Dr. Stein’s page @ Rice is:
    http://www.rice.edu/Internet/search/query.php?tab=people&search=stein

    If you look at them you can find the email for each of the good doctors.

    Should you wish to express your opinion of their scholarship, please keep it on a high plane - name calling, etc., however it might be justified in this incidence, reflects badly on the conservative movement, and indeed usurps the tactics of the democrats…

    Remember,
    - when a liberal disagrees with a conservative, the liberal attributes it to evil-mindedness on the conservative’s part.
    - when a conservative disagrees with a liberal, the conservative attributes it to ignorance on the liberal’s part.

  18. Erika on January 23rd, 2006 at 4:31 pm

    I’m gonna go off on a tangent.

    Notice in the ethnic breakdown they use the term Hispanics. They don’t refer to them as Mexican because they don’t know if they are Mexican or Colombian or what. So, why do they feel free to use the term Anglo? I never realized that the district was so heavily populated by the British! I know some modern definitions accept the term as describing all English speakers, but that’s ridiculous! It refers to people of English descent! I hate that!

  19. TX2STEP55 on January 23rd, 2006 at 7:23 pm

    Dr. Murray claims that he didn’t have time to give input because the Chronicle was rushed to get the poll in the field. Of course they were - they found out before that weekend that some liberal 527 was running a negative ad (that broadcasters refused to run because is was so outrageous) on all local stations the week of Jan. 10. Convenient that the Chronicle chose the 10-12 to run their poll - they wanted to be in the field the same time this ad was hitting their potential respondents.

  20. Mountainman on January 23rd, 2006 at 10:05 pm

    Just what the Hell is ‘Hispanic’? At best it seems to be a commonality of language. . . SO. . . shouldn’t all that speak English be in a recognized group called Anglish? Are we to be (in our best of all possible worlds color blind society) further catagorized by language as well as skin color? Whatever happend to just being AMERICAN?????????

  21. cimrhanzel on January 24th, 2006 at 12:13 pm

    Why can I not find a listing for “Anglos” on the 2000 Census ? The census for Houston http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/48/4835000.html
    shows that somehow the Chronicle forgot the 49.3% “White” population of the city. So sad that Mr. Murray would use a racial slur in describing his “statistical” data. Perhaps he can reexamine his claim that the information he is recieving from the US Census and state where he finds this “Anglo” voting population in Houston.

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