We made it to another weekend!
So, what are doing? or not doing? Any plans?
Regardless, have a terrific weekend, it looks like it is going to be beautiful outside!
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We made it to another weekend!
So, what are doing? or not doing? Any plans?
Regardless, have a terrific weekend, it looks like it is going to be beautiful outside!
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1st!
I guess it’s appropriate to say good job tim!
To those who honestly believe we should not have went into Iraq, in your sincere accessment what would the middle east look like today and what would Saddam be doing? Remember WMD would be in Iraq as far as we know and no history revision.
Mornin HS.
tim, good morning.
Yesterday there was a discussion about this very subject, and one of the arguments against removing Saddam was that we had him completely “contained” with the no-fly-zones, sanctions, etc. Now we have chaos, emboldened insurgents, and we’re not sure what the future government will look like over the next few years.
I don’t know. I tend to lean towards sarge’s thinking about how we’re in a much better position now to deal with Iran, which I think has always been the bigger threat.
To deal with Iran we would have to pull troops out of Iraq and isn’t that something the conservatives say we can’t do yet?
Another example of how greed can turn a good thing into a disaster:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/3635541.html
#6 gadboy
We can’t remove them from the theater. Iran and Iraq are neighbors. We don’t need massive airlift or extreme logistical planning to move across a line in the sand.
Moving people and tanks and rifles from Kansas to Iraq is a big deal. Driving 65 miles in an M1A1 is not really a big deal. They are still in theater.
And once the Imams are out of power, the Iranians know how to govern themselves. They were doing quite well until about 1979.
I started this yesterday. BigIron45 keeps talking
about his misses being Miss Canada. I did some
research and after hearing him post for awhile I am guessing that she was 1971
http://www.jimmyspageantpage.com/canadagallery.html
My first wife was Miss Stake
I am sitting here this morning looking at three of the biggest, baddest, and most kick butt airborne weapons delivery systems known to man right now. Upon the next threat of nuculure strike from Iran why don’t we just load up about 30 B-1’s and 50 B-52’s and go let them practice dropping their new, gps guided JDAMs over every strategic target between Iraq and Afghanistan and shut the punks up.
This goes up me 10 million miles; I’m not arguing their right to be upset and protest, but condoning suicide attacks over this just shows how nuts these people really are:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,,1702104,00.html
“Anjem Choudhary, one of the leaders of the demonstration, refused to condemn the threat of another suicide attack in London on the scale of the July 7 bombings as a result of the perceived insult to Islam. “I am not in the business of condoning or condemning,” he said. “The fact is that 7/7 was brought upon the people of London and Britain by the foreign policy of Tony Blair. There is no reason why there should not be more suicide bombings in London.”
Passersby stopped police officers to ask why the marchers were being allowed to carry banners threatening further suicide attacks in the city. One police officer replied: “Don’t worry. We are photographing them.”
HS, puzzles me too. These Muzlums burn our flags,curse our Presidents,fly planes into our buildings,cut peoples heads off on video,etc,but let one stupid cartoon be published with some bomb towelhead and they go bananas.No offense to bananas.
Maybe these people are just bored.They should let NASCAR in the country and organize some short track camel racing.Like I always say,its hard to blow yourself up when you’re holding a cold beer!
http://www.mentalmayhem.net/gallery/images/andtheyreoff.jpg
#12
What a beautiful country England used to be. Shakespeare. The Magna Carta. Churchill. The RAF.
Now it’s population is contaminated with 10% mooslums and every second of public life is monitored by video surveillance.
Do you understand that? Every SECOND of outside activity is videotaped by a camera somewhere. All because of mooslums. They bring nothing to a country. They come and instead of integrating they threaten to bomb innocent people unless THEY conform to the newcomers! Rats!
Is this what the Royal Air Force fought the Luftwaffe for? So that mooslum rats, who were invited in out of compassion, could bomb the country from within?
I hope the civilized world takes them all out in one big assault. The world will not miss them.
No one had better ask me what I think of muhomid, because I’ll tell ‘em!
Now where did those WMDs go?
What burns me up about this is that very suggestion was completely poo pooed by the MSM. I won’t even go on an ego trip and recount how I got flamed about suggesting it. Oh I forget, Bush is a liar.
#14
And at the same time, every reference to God and Christianity in our country is being removed.
You wonder why I shake my head. We should all be shaking our heads and hanging them in shame for letting it happen.
The time is coming for the Muzlums. Like a famous sailor once said “I’ve had all I can stansk and I cant stansk no more”
http://www.vitaphone.org/popeye.jpg
Good morning Tim.
Smacktle, 1971 truely was a very good year.
Viktor, from what I have read, there are between two to three dozen sites spread throughout Iran that would need to be vaporized, all at the same time. The sites ikely have the essential “hardware” deep underground, in heavily reinforced bunkers.
The military has modified the bunker-busters with nuke warheads, it’s just that they fear the Socialist run countries and U.N. will protest our use of such a weapon as some radioactive fallout will be generated through the entry hole when the devices detonate.
I could still live with that. As President Reagan once said during a mike check “the bombing begins in 10 minutes.”
#15 squawkie
We’ve seen these types of reports so many times since the war started. How many times did they find biological weapons and other nefarious weapons, only for the report to be proven wrong.
Don’t get caught up in the propaganda. If this were really true, don’t you think the Bush administration would be touting it 24/7?
When we’ve really found them or what happened to them, we won’t have to read about it from lebaneselobby.org.
You folks need to wath those epitheths, you could be charged with HATE speech now adays.
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
#20 Royko
Yeah, I saw that. Scary isn’t it? We’re not as free as we think.
Shakey #19
Apparently you missed.
The New York Sun is reporting that the House has reopened investigations into allegations that Sadam did indeed fly the WMDs to Syria.
But I understand the oversight.
#22 Squawkie
I saw that, and I hope they find the truth.
My point is we’ve been thru this before (including hearings), and nothing has been found. Until they come up with solid proof, I’m skeptical.
That’s all.
But I understand the oversight.
LOL, you should claim copyright/trademark rights to that phrase, it could be used often here!
squawk, it wont go anywhere. Just like the Mexican border issue. Repubs and the Dems are only interested in fighting with each other. The hell with the country.
#7 headshaker
Heck, I didn’t know Lee Brown’s daughter worked for TSU!
#10 headshaker
That’s funny!
#6
gadboy:
Please do this math:
We have ONE FREAKING MILLION soliders in the Army
we have ONE HUNDRED THIRTY FREAKING THOUSAND soldiers in Iraq
Which one of the ONE HNDRED THIRTY FREAKING THOUSADN soldioers in Iraq would be needed to help the remaining EIGHT HUNDRED SEVENTY FREAKING THOUSAND soldeirs in the Army take Iraq?
Shakey
You can copy right the phrase. I have my favorite already. You know—-”OBSCENE PROFITS”. I am considering “Capitalost Swine” though. I saw that on a Moonbat web sight and about fell out of my tree.
CLAIMER: (Note the absence of “DIS”.) Your humble moderator got permanently banned from that discussion forum for arguing that capitalism is a good thing.
I think that is funny. I observed the same rules we “enforce” here and I got banned for presenting a view contrary to theirs. I am not upset about it, it is “THEIR” forum and they have the right to pick and choose participants.
Opposite or contrary views are always welcome here btw.
oops…that should be:
How many of the ONE HUNDRED THIRTY FREAKING THOUSAND soldiers in Iraq would be needed to help the remaining EIGHT HUNDRED SEVENTY FREAKING THOUSAND soldiers remaining to take IRAN?
Ahh, WMDs. Every intelligence agency in the western world agreed they were there before the invasion, including the Germans, French and Russians. We didn’t find them…yet. Now there are multiple stories of them being moved to Syria. So lets look at the evidence:
1. Iraq had WMDs in the recent past
2. Iraq used WMDs in the recent past
3. Iraq had material and equipment to produce WMDs
4. Iraq repeatedly stymied the WMD inspectors for 12 years.
5. All intelligence agencies agreed they had them
6. Syria run by the same Baathists as Iraq
7. Multiple accounts of WMDs moved to Syria
But lets all believe that Bush lied. Now about that land in Florida…
#21 Headshaker. . . . You’re not nearly as free as you think. El Presidente Jorge Busho is with the willing help of Justices Ginzbeg, Souter and Kennedy, and the corrupt congress, pushing us into “One Worlders”. Orwell was only off on his timeline. BTW, watch the comments on diaperheads, The Dude claims to be able to ’separate the wheat from the chaf’. . . . .
#30
Hammie;
When asked to provide evidence for “Bush lied”, none is ever presented. There have been at least two Congressional investigations into ti and they have come to these two conclusions:
1. Bush did not lie
2. Bush did not “cherry pick” intelligence he presented to Congress to inform them of the situation be fore they voted to give him the authority to undertake military action against Iraq.
Yet they still insist on repeating THIS LIE.
Syas a lot about them, doesn’t it?
“the House has reopened investigations”
Isn’t that where a bunch of guys get together
and take a nap?
Squawko;
Where is the DLWM reporting the reopened investigations into WMD being moved to Syria? I see the big reports about investigations into Abramoff and terrorist wire tapping, but I don’t see the one about WMD being in Syria on the front age anywhere…you’d think that would be news…
WMDs
The link is on this page
#32 - It’s mind-boggling, sarge.
The sound of my mind being boggled.
Interesting brain fodder appeared on my desktop this morning.
The word of the day is SAPIENT.
http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/
And a sapient quote of the day:
#35
Squawkie, some interesting excerpts from that link:
President Bush and two inspectors he appointed to find the weapons have all said the evidence of the weapons has not turned up, and the president announced shortly after he won the 2004 elections that the search for Saddam’s WMD was over.
If Mr. Hoekstra and Mr. Feith are correct that the weapons programs could have been disassembled and may be in enemy hands, the political and diplomatic implications for the Bush administration are complicated. In a sense, it validates one of Mr. Bush’s key reasons for going to war. But if the weapons existed and were hidden or sent elsewhere, then the war partially justified to disarm a tyrant who may slip germs, chemicals or even nuclear materials to terrorists may have set off a chain of events that led to the very scenario Mr. Bush was trying to preempt.
#16 - Amen to that…
#36
Having on’es mind boggled is nothing compared to having the flabber gasted….
I’ts happened to me many times….
Ree-C, how can I get a login/username for your site?
I want to post over there if you allow men/fathers!
Your blog is too cool.
Shakey;
I think the political inplications for those who have been calling Mr. Bush a liar for the past couple of years are bad, but I think they will be even worse once they start saying:
“Well, OK, we were wrong and he was right, but he still did the arong thing.”
Now toss in a couple of Democrat Congressional Leaders being indicted in the Abramoff scandal and you’ve got a Democrat party that looks like a bunch of carping whiners who don’t know the truth from a hole in the ground.
I tip my hat to Mr. Dean and Ms. Pelosi for that littele favor…..
Do I think Bush lied? No
Do I think he embellished the truth? Yes, and if that was the only way he could get the “authority/approval” to take out Saddam and go after these whackjobs, so be it.
#42 - sarge, as we’ve said many times (daily!), the Democrats are hopeless. The party is so weak at the leadership level it’s an embarrassment for America as a whole.
Oh, BTW. Remember the discussion about George Carlin’s “Brain Droppings” the other day?
More here.
Money quote:
The Strolling Bones are the halftime act for the Superbowl. Let’s hope there are no “wardrobe malfunctions”.
#43
There has been a congressional investigation into claims that Bush “manipulated the Truth” once the “Bush Lied” crap was exposed as just that. They determined that he did not.
Ths, of course, was what the Plame investigation was supposed to reveal. We wer promised that it would show how Cheny manipulated the press and intelligence to get us to go to war AND get an indictment againast Karl rive.
The delivered a guy named “Scooter”
#45 jimb
Carlin has turned into a real wack job. Very angry
and hostile. Probably will die of cancer.
#47 - Uh oh sarge, you may be on to something. Maybe Scooter is really the brain behind Bush’s Brain!
Wolf Blitzer: We, we have breaking news! We now go to Christianne Ammanpour at the White House. Christianne, what to you have for us?
Christianne: Wolf, in a surprise announcement, today the President of the United States has resigned as a result of revelations brought to light by Scooter.
#20
Hey Royko,
If we bunker bust the underground sites would they not be effectively sealed? We could then bunker bust the sites after they had conveniently cleared out the rubble. All I am saying is remove any and all of their nuclear capability to make such weapons. If they don’t like our efforts then they could file an immediate protest to our invasion of their air space. Be a great chance to test our new toys for the F-16, F-15E, and new F/A-22. Then the world would start to learn a new lesson in the course “Living With Each Other”. If you threaten to or you do throw a rock at your neighbor make sure that they cannot retaliate, or prepare to get your butt kicked up over your ears. What do you think GBU-12’s were made for? They make such lovely burial plots for their targets.
To those listening in, I apologize for any offence that you may experience by my rhetoric. I just feel that it is better to make humans pay for their right to threaten me and mine, you qualify as mine.
Ad Inexplorata
#46 SC
In one of those rare “funny” moments on the Chris Baker Show last night, someone asked if the real nailbiter of the Superbowl will be wondering if Keith Richard would live through the first two quarters, in order to perform in the halftime show ;0}
#51 I think he has been dead for years, Just a bad job of preservation
State Department sides with Islamic Fascists. Maybe the State Department can co-author Phase II of MCCain-FeinGold/I stomp on Free Speech and Trample the First Amendment bill. It could be called the Stomp out Blogs Bill…..
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/02/03/060203161134.7zd6bpnp.html
http://www.2la.org/syria/
Interesting web site come across while doing my onw “WMD in Syria” research.
Royko;
Neither we nor the Israelis can do more than delay Iran’s production of nukes. We simply don’t know where all the sites are.
I’ve got two articles with information on our and Israeli capabilities against Iran:
http://battalions2.blogspot.com/2006/01/possible-israeli-attack-on-irans_22.html
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21236293&postID=113812681421353573
We will have a higher rate of success than the Israelis, but the strikes would have to be followed up by action to institute Regime Change. IN this case, it would be to remove the Mullahs who really givern Iran. Take out the Islamic council and Iran is a pretty well run democracy that would not be near the threat they pose today.
As far as the Israelis, the only means they have that will truly gurantee them success is the nukes they possess. Rabnges to these sites are at the absolute limit of thier capabilities, and would be met with immediately accusations that we conspired with them to get it done.
From there on out, it ain’t pretty.
The most likely scenario would be for economic sanctions against Iran by the UN, possibly coupled with air strikes under thier auspices designed to delay the program liong enough for the sanctions to take effect. With Ambassador Bolton in thier keeping an eye on things, a repeat of the abuses of the “Oil for Food” program with Iraq will be less likely.
BTW..
I hope to be able to finish a piece on “Why Iran’s Neighbor’s Won’t Play Ball With Them” tomorrow. The challenges of Capitalism have been keeping me BZ and haven’t had time to finish it.
speaking of whihc, coffe done, now go to work..Methodists in Jacksonville need a new church.
I really dont know how any country can say to another they cant develop nukes. Using that logic all the Muzlum countries could get together and say the US needs to dismantle its nukes and allow inspections on all military sites. If not the US is in violation of the Islamic federation and needs to be invaded and the gov overthrown. Take off our Uncle Sam red white and blue hat for a second and think about that. What would we do? We would tell them to go screw themselves. Why is it not ok for them to do the same.
If I were the Prez of Iran I would be doing the same thing.Flame on.
Hey Gregg,
Let all the countries that want nukes make them, just don’t threaten other countries with them.
gregg
#56
RE: Us havin’nukes and no one else.
It is good to be King.
I think we should GIVE Iran nuclear weapons. Dropped from an airplane! ha!
What do you expect of Carlin? A bitter, angry liberal all his life. Now, as he nears the end, he realizes his money and fame mean nothing. His soul is scarred. But he’s too vile and frightened to admit the truth. So, he’s angry inside and full of rage.
He is a very nasty individual. I pray for him.
Actually, we should all pray for everyone, but you know what I mean….
Viktor,
I agree. Iran has not said they would attack another country as far as I know. They say they will retaliate if they are attacked.
I say, find another source of fuel and let them all turn back into sand merchants.
The only reason anyone talks to these Arabs is because they have oil.
gregg
#60
Iran on Israel:
The holocaust never happened, the Jews lied about the holocaust, the Jews should be wiped of the face of the world, Israel should cease to exist.
Iran on the United States:
The US is the great Satan, we will defend ourself against the Great Satan, the US should die, President Bush is the Great Satan
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Yeah you are right, Iran never said they would use nukes on anyone.
gregg and one more thing
Let us not forget that Iran is a Muslim country and those fools believe martyrdom is a good thing even if it means killing everyone on the earth. Remember they get 79 virgins and we don’t.
56:
Yes, every country wants nukes and thinks it should get them. But at some point, the risk is just too great. I mean, let’s say Canada wanted to create a huge warhead, and put it on top of a missile with a 200-mile range. The only place they could hit would be us. Do they have the “right” to do it, since they’re a sovereign nation? Yeah, I guess. But we have the right not to get nuked.
Amen to that, brother. It would definitely be nice to have that advantage. But it would be seriously destabilizing. I wonder what would happen if the world’s automakers announced tomorrow: “Beginning today, all vehicles will be built with a fuel cell engine. It gets 500 miles per gallon. Of water.”
How long before popular uprisings take Riyadh and Tehran by storm?
#62 - “Remember they get 79 virgins and we don’t.”
Squawkie, that loophole may be closed now.
hamous
#64
heh heh!
On the way out the dorr. On Iran and it’s right to have nukes, I heard a very good ananlogy on Jim Lehrer last night:
You have a right to get a loan from a bank. If you go to the bank to ask for a loan and haven’t paid off any loans or credit cards, you won’t get one.
You ha ve a right to own a gun. But if you wave one in somebody’s face and threaten to kill them with it, you will be denied that right once you get out of jail.
The world has lowered Iran’s credit rating. The world has decided that Iran is waving nukes in front of everybody’s face and threatening them annihilation, and there fore don’t have the right to own nukes anymore.
sargevining #66
You watch Jim Lehrer? Oh my gawwduhhh. Just goes to show ya, you CAN look at "that stuff" and not go blind. Hey sarge do you wear glasses?
Viktor
#50
The little birds can’t carry them.
Homework:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/n19980326_980417.html
http://www.physicstoday.org/vol-56/iss-11/p32.html
#62 Ali show up in heaven after blowing himself to bits only to find he is being kick in the nether regions by George Washington, Thomas Jeffersonand others.
“But Allah whatis this?”
“You idiot, I SAID VIRGINIANs”
Sarg
#54
I agree, there are at least two dozen to three dozen likely sites, and one can be certain a few undisclosed sites hording fissionable materials.
The 5,000 pound bunker busters, if used SOONER THAN LATER, MORE THAN LESS, could devaste Iran’s capacity.
Then we would have to seal off all Iranian ports and border crossings to force capitulation on the issue.
It is not negotiable, ever! And that goes for North Korea, double.
Viktor,
I was wrong. An F-15 has been modified to carry a 5,000 pound Bunker Buster Bomb. With a 300+ kt nuke warhead, it would even kick Gunny R. Lee Ermy’s butt.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1998/iraq/9802/military.moves/new.weapons/planes/f15e.html
Round and round we go…where she stops nobody knows!
#68
Hey Royco,
I agree, bunker busters are best dropped by B-1’s and B-52’s. The B-1’s carry capacity is twice that of a B-52 and the reload time is much shorter. GBU-12’s are 500 lb laser guided firecrackers dropped by everything down to a something big enough to carry a 500 lb payload, which by the way would go a long ways to removing Al-Crazies hiding in Pakistan.
I beg to differ with you but Iran has announced it wants to use nukes to remove Isreal as a nation.
#71
Hey Royco,
I did not mean nuke bunker busters, just bunker busters. If nukes were involved then I say a few dozen minutemen set for 1000′ detonation, away from the oil fields of course.
DanielJames
#72
Yeah ain’t it fun? And it didn’t even cost you a nickel to ride.
IN the article on my blog posted abovbe is a description of the GBU-28, in addition to some new research going on.
But our most effective weapons right now is Special Operations and covert agents inside Iran working for regime change and destabilizing the mullahs. The focus is on the ethnic rivalries in the different regions of the country.
I might be interesting to see Iranian Kurdistan become part of Iraqi Kurdistan, Iranian Arab Sunnis become part of southeastern Iraq, Tajikistan on theire Eastern border merged with Afghani Tajiks, and the same with Baluchistan. Support among those ethinc groups for re-creation of their ancestral homelands would be substantial.
sargevining,
I just cannot resist this.
Sarge you are avoiding the question I posted in #67. Why? Got sumpthin to hide?
I’m just yankin on your footlocker Sarge.
#76 - Seems like a large part of the problem (excluding that whole “death to all infidels” thing) can be traced back to the British drawing arbitrary boundaries to create countries that never existed before, regardless of ancestral borders.
So we drop a few on Iran,then what? Send in our guys to occupy what? Rebuild Iran like we are doing Iraq? We have done such a great job in Iraq I cant wait to see how another trillion will look in Iran.
These crazies are like ants. It doesnt make sense to kick an ant pile. They just go scurrying all over and sneak up your leg and bite you.You either burn the pile or control them as best as possible.
What if they are able to get one of their nukes into one of our bases in Iraq or one in Israel. Are we ready to lose 20k troops or whatever we have in the bomb area? All it would take is one in Israel and you have a smoldering radio active mess for the next thousand years.
The best way to handle them is cut them off and make them drink their oil. Nothing goes in or out.
The problem with any scenario is Russia,China,Syria,Libya and the other communist countries are not on our side.Once again we will go it alone with Britain and spend our money and lives for a bunch of carpet pilots with oil.
#46
About the Strolling bones halftime show at the Super bowl, I fail to see how the avg. football fan identifies with something like that. Me thinks that Toby Keith and Martina McBride and the football field full of American Soldiers would be much more appropriate.
hamous
#78
There were no ancestral borders for the Brits to draw borders around. The whole flap centers around the existence of Israel. In fact the Balfour Declaration boundaries gave Israel much more land than they now occupy. The “Arabs” circumvented that declaration by complaining to the Brits and the Balfour boundaries were superceded pretty much by what you see now.
#25
I never could understand why hardly anyone in the Brown administration was investigated. It just seems that millions of $$$ got lost.
gregg
Nope you destroy the antpile before it can spread into your house. Thgere is no diplomacy with Iran. What the hell do you use as a bargaining chip? They don’t care for anything anyone in the world has to "offer" them. We could stop using oil from the mideast tommorow and Iran would still posture as they do now.
I would also submit that when the crap hits the fan in Iran we or whoever will have to deal with Russia also. For Russia, Iran is "Momma’s little moneymaker".
Kraut,
c,mon man,you know why. Its the same reason this babe from TSU will get off with a slap on the wrist and a vacation in the Bahamas.
Black Liberals are not held accountable for anything.
On the Malkin video. I wouldnt want to stand near her after those nuts see that.
Crap I meant IRAN above.
I knew I shoulda taken the day off.
Squawk, Im with ya man. But do you think PC GWB will “Destroy” Iran? No, if he does do anything it will be the same crap we did in Iraq. Bomb,stop, then start playing nicy nicy not to offend the Muzlums and look like occupiers. Been there done that.Sorry for that worn out cliche. At least I didnt do the “raise the roof” gesture or say “you go girl”
#77
At last, Squawk…you have damaged my credibility beyond repair!
Alas, alack, and woe is me…my flabber may have been gasted fatally this time….
However, I shal attempt to recover by making this clever reposte:
I wear glasses only to read…..
gregg
#86
Yep gregg I agree 100% on the Bush thingie. We are in deep doo doo and no one seems to notice. Iran will not be another Iraq 1. ebcause of the other players and 2. Iran still has their wmds and they WILL use them.
Just another day on the border!
http://www.americanpatrol.com/CBP/PRESS-RELEASES/060203/060203.html
sargevining
#87
Nice try there Sarge but ummm I think you missed the wiffle ball with that retort.
Maybe I’m too optimistic but I’d like to think that the Iranian people, which are not Arabs, are a little more free thinking than their Arab neighbors. They’ve had a taste of a somewhat free (at least for that part of the world) society. I think they are closer to Turkish muslims than Arab muslims. So as several people have already pointed out here, wipe out the “moolahs” and their political puppets, support the opposition we know is already there, and they may be able to take care of this internally for the most part. I know, I know, I’m naive! But it just might work.
#83 Squawk
I used to be married to a crazy man who thought the best way to get rid of fireant mounds was to pour them full of gasoline, stand back, and toss in a lit match. Often, there was an intriguing “boom,” and flames coming out of the ground for quite some time. Eventually there would be a new fireant mound around but it definitely wasn’t THOSE ants in the new mound… and strangely enough, the new mound was never in the same spot as the old one {:0)
Maybe you’re onto something with this ant thing.
#86
That’s why the solution will probably be:
1. Airstrikes by France and/or NATO under UN auspices rather than the US acting unilaterrally, probably using US munitions.
2. Institution of Economic sanctions against Iran by the UN.
3. Armed uprisings in the border countries I described, with large pieces of real-estate being taken over by the ethnic groups prepesented and an appeal to the UN for recognition, or at least partition from Iran.
….all leading to the collapse of the Isalmic Republic to the establishment of a secular Republic by the population already greatly pissed at the mullahs.
#80 They wouln’t let Toby Kieth perform what he wanted.
BSue
I wonder, you said “used to be married” did he set himself on fire, blow himself up or what?
Ummm nevermind I don’t think I want to know.
#92 Sue
There’s the problem; another antpile will always pop up. And there are already antpiles all over the world, you can’t exterminate all of them. By taking the annihilation approach, you’ll only make the ants in the other antpiles more pissed off.
Maybe a bee analogy is better; they’ll go from yellowjackets to Africanized honey bees.
Enough but analogies!
Sarge, you mean to tell me France has a new jet that can fly backwards in retreat?
hamous
#91
The problem is that it ain’t the people that have their finger on the button. You can also bet those in authority i.e. the military probably share the same view as their fearless leader.
gregg - “Don’t go there.” ha!
#95 - Squawk… don’t know what happened to him… and, like you, don’t really want to know…
#96 - Shakey - you’re right about enough analogies. I don’t even want to picture Africanized Fire Ants - but fear that is what we will evenually be facing with these Middle Eastern whackos.
headshaker
#96
Well since this antpile is human, you can kick the hell out of them enough to send a very large warning that we ain’t gonna take no more crap. Funny how quiet the world got after Japan got bombed.
The problem with that reality check is the American people and the gubment don’t have the gonads to face that reality. “Oh we are so much above that, blah blah blah, if we just talk to them and let them know we love them they will understand.”
What was the name of that good book a few years ago where the Israeli’s lost a nuclear missile during the first attack on Iraq? One of their planes crashed in the desert, they were afraid to tell anyone, and then, twenty years later, some Arabs stumbled across it. They snuck it in US and blew up the Super Bowl. uh-oh. Great read.
#101
squawkie, you can’t compare radical Muslims with the Japanese. You’re fighting an ideology that has existed for hundreds of years. It’s almost like it’s in their genes.
And you’re using the term “human” too loosely.
These radicals are animals with an agenda, and you’re not going to win this war by trying to annihilate them. Sorry.
#103
Actually, the comparison is apt. The Japanese were led by religious/militarist fanatics following the Bushido/Shinto religion, which had existed for hundreds of years.
#104
And, which I might add, no longer exists…and Japan now has laws that state they will not have an offense army ro send combat troops outside it’s borders. They recently sent medical troops to Iraq, and even that was the subject of great debate.
On a paralell note:
Remember how quiet Muamr Quaddafi got after a bomb went off next to HIS tent?
#98 - Squawk, if they already have nukes, of course all bets are off. If they don’t, then some strategic assassinations could precipitate a “counter-revolution” and bring in a secular government that could be negotiated with to end their nuclear ambitions. After all, Khadafi seemed to get the message.
On the borders thing, I was thinking more of ethnic borders. By splitting up the Ottoman Empire the way the Europeans did they put incompatible ethnic groups together in countries which ultimately lead to some groups being persecuted for generations by others. They don’t even have a history of education. Without education they’ve become just a few evolutionary steps above the Neanderthal.
#104/105
Sarge, you’re still missing the point. The Japanese weren’t spread out all over the world, and Bushido/Shintoism were not the fastest-growing religions either.
You’re not comparing apples to apples.
I heard some guy on the radio (can’t remember his
name) talk about that Iran’s leader cantsayhisname
needed something like whats going on now to get
his people stirred up so they would be together
against something instead against him.
So if you use ants as an analogy kill the queen you
kill the mound. Kill cantsayhisname and you kill
off radical Iran.
Shakey;
Actually, the Japanese WERE and ARE all over the world today. There are, for instance, more people of Japanese descent in the state of Hawaii than there are caucasians. in WWs we rounded up many thousands of them here in this country alone.
The comparison goes further. Muslim fanatics beleive that dying in the cause of isalm will get them into Heaven with 79 Virgins. Shintoists beleive that dying for the Emperor would bring nearly the same thing.
In fact, the Japan of the 1930’s shows us just where a united middle east of the early 21st Century will go.
headshaker
#103
I am aware of the ideology. The ideology is born out of religion too, which makes it especailly dangerous.
I also believe my prayer that I learned while trucking. You may have heard it too.
Yeah I am walking through the valley and the shadow of death, but who cares? Cause I have proved I am the baddest mofo in the valley.
I also believe in peace through strength, preemptive strikes and damn the torpedos fired from those that complain. There are times in life and world politics that you gotta slap the snot out of your neighbor to get them to leave you alone. Yes there are consequences to every action, but I can deal with those if I am alive.
Funny thing about the world playground, when the bully gets his butt kicked no one messes with the kicker. The last words Bush shoulda said after Saddam was toppled was “Who’s Next?”
#108
That’s not entirely true, Smacky.
You need to get rid of the Islamic council, as the Islamic Guards to get that job done. Can’t say his name is merely thier public stooge.
I can see it now. Africanized Ants. They dont want to work the hill,they expect the other insects to bring them food,they call the Queen a ho and they drive around in these
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~zgraham/escalade.jpg
hamous
#106
There are two things it has been proven that Iran has right now as we speak. Long range (5000K) missiles and nuclear material. Now do the math. Can you say long range dirty bomb.
It took the United States four years +- to build the atomic bomb. When the USSR collapsed where did all those nuclear scientist go too in 1992-93? Why Iran, that’s where. Now what is keeping those clowns from already having a nuclear weapon?
I make no bones about it, when it comes to us or them, I prefer them at all costs. No gray area or wiggle room with me.
I agree Squawk, but I don’t think they are that close yet. I pray to God they are not…..
#114 - ditto what sarge said. Like I said, if they already have nukes then all bets are off.
sargevining
#115
Wanna bet they aren’t “that close yet”? I’d wager within weeks if they do not already have “the bomb” they will have the bomb.
Iran has already said they are going to explode a test nuclear weapon March 20 this year.
Actually Squawk, the claim of a test firing in March comes from a dissident group here in the US. There are no intelligence findings that back that up, and our experience with the reliability of intelligence gathered from dissidnet groups is not one that inspires confidence.
Dirty bomb? Yeah, they copuld have one in a short period. But the thing is, once they use it, they know all bets are off. As has been said, this dust-up has more to do with them keeping thier own folks together against a common enemy than anything else. The regime is dangeroulsy close to fracturing.
Ethnic problems in the outlying provinces and a young population hooked up to the internet are their biggest problems. They are finding that Religion alone is not enough to keep them all in line.
But if they do get a case of the crazies, we can bomb them to glass, then tie fatback to our feet and skate on the surface.
sargevining
#118
Gotta find it, Israel confirmed the test firing claim through their intelligencia.
sargevining
This is another story still looking
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=1785
sarge
and another but not theone I want
http://www.joe-duarte.com/saved_newsletters/2006_01/2006_0125_market_IQ.html
While our wonderful presidente de Meh-hee-Co, Slick Jorge II is on the road touting more H1b visas so more Americans can lose their jobs, we get more incursions inside our borders from the Mexican Military.
Slick Jorge II loves H1b visas. This coming from a man who never had to look for a real job a day n his life. So why should he care if someone else loses their job? Of his 108,000 jobs created in Dec 2005 almost 40% were of the bartender\waitress variety. Great future in those professions.
And why should he care about incursions on the border. It won’t effect him or his ranch.
New World Order for You but not for Slick Jorge number Two. He is an immune Elite.
With the help of Slick Jorge II, Mexico will retake the Southwestern USA.
Slick Jorge II…The Best President Mexico has ever had. !!Viva El Presidente!!Viva El Presidente!!
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