Global warming: Another view?
by The Panda Man · 02/07/2006 10:41 amAccording to typical media reports, “global warming” caused by evil American capitalism is accepted scientific fact. Surprisingly, this United Press International story actually presents a different view.
Khabibullo Abdusamatov of the Pulkovo Astronomic Observatory in St. Petersburg said Monday that temperatures will begin falling six or seven years from now, when global warming caused by increased solar activity in the 20th century reaches its peak, RIA Novosti reported.
Dramatic changes in the earth’s surface temperatures are an ordinary phenomenon, not an anomaly, he said, and result from variations in the sun’s energy output and ultraviolet radiation.
[Emphasis added]
No mention of Karl Rove and George Bush intentionally melting the polar ice to flood coastal areas and kill off poor blacks. Not a word on the Republican Wacky Weather Machine that Bush, Rove, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Halliburton use to whip up destructive hurricanes. No diatribe on American greed and pride raping the world for resources and leaving pollution and global warming in their wake.
Probably just an oversight.
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So “stop global warming” makes about as much sense as “stop plate tectonics” or the “dihydrogen monoxide” deal. Kudos to UPI for presenting this.
Stop global warming: douse the sun!
Don’t knock global warming too much. The latest satellite technology has shown a rapid rise in surface temperature and a marked shrinking of the polar ice caps over the last three years. This evidence is irrefutable.
Oh, I forgot to mention this was occuring on Mars. Those wascally Wepubwicans are even destroying the environment there!!
We can’t do that. Halliburton would probably get the contract to install the piping to deliver the water. Then the L³ chanting would start:
Cheney lied! The solar system died!
Maybe we could just shoot Michael Moore up there and have him take a massive liberal whiz on the old blazing hydrogen ball. Think we could convince NASA?
One other fact is that if you plot temperature on the y-axis and population on the x-axis you will notice as the population has increased so has the temperature. Simple solution is to reduce the population problem is by what method reduced birth rate (by nationality only so many births per country), lottery (pick a number), random drawing (everyone with this number), age (at a certain age regardless of position in life - rich or poor, politician or bum (one in the same)), wealth (above or below a certain amount and by a certain age), race (by percentage of each culture). A 20% decrease in population should drop the earth’s temperature by one degree - problem is the choice of method. I am sure the liberals have an idea and would love to see it.
The problem I have with this whole GW thing is 1/2 the scientists say yes and 1/2 say no. Some say its a natural cycle some say its man burning fossil fuels.
I can see where exhaust from cars is a problem. Would you sit in your closed garage with the car running? No the fumes would kill you. Using that logic a gazillion cars on the roads all over the world,the fumes have to go somewhere. In Houston, look up at the rust colored horizon or smell Pasadena on a good summer day.Cant be a good thing. Those who say that smell means money are dumbasses who think thats a cool thing to say. If its money then drink a glass of contaminated water and tell me how good it tastes.
Man can do more to clean up our mess thats for sure. The crowd that cries for no cars and the US destroy its economy over this is crazy too. Just one volcano or natural forest fire makes as much pollution in one week that it takes man to make in years. So that argument is weak too.
What would we say if Mehico right now decided to come into the 21st century and go thru an industrial age and began spewing toxic waste into the Rio Grande and belching smoke across our borders in the name of progress? We would probably try to stop them. Makes sense dosnt it?
What needs to happen is the world needs to find a cleaner fuel and different ways to generate the needed electricity. And, realize pollution will eventually contaminate our water and oceans to the point this planet will be inhabitable for us to live on. In some parts of Galveston bay they say you should’nt eat the fish. To much mercury.That cant be a good thing.
Well Gregg, that’s pretty well already happened. There are many chemical plants, manufacturing plants, and petroleum interests down there. The interesting thing is that (at least as far as oil goes) it’s federally controlled: Pemex. Brazil is similar with Petrobras, although the government owns 30% there instead of having 100% control, as is the case in Mexico.
Further, lack of environmental restrictions is a strong enticement for companies to do business in Mexico, so your scenario of them “spewing toxic waste” and “belching smoke” has been going on for years in all reality.
Agreed 100%. If it was easy, it would have already been done.
#3;BigIron: “Oh, I forgot to mention this was occuring on Mars. Those wascally Wepubwicans are even destroying the environment there!!” Could you please provide a link for that information. I did a unsuccessful Google search for it, and I want to use it elsewhere on the net. Any help you can give me would be appreciated, thanks.
Gregg, the problem with that is that the eruptions of Mt. St. Helens and Mt. Pinatuba put our more ozone depleting chemicals in each of their separate eruptions than mankind has in its entire history! The north polar ice cap 20,000 years ago was five times the size it is now. They are also saying the polar ice cap now is the same size it was 60 million years ago. So what caused the ice cap to start shrinking 20,000 years ago? Was it the late Neanderthal/early Cro Magnon industrial revolution?
They are natural cycles. Cataclysmic events occur which are far more disasterous than anything man ever does. What killed off the mastadons, wholly mamouths, and sabre toothed tigers? Was it those full auto spears?
I did some extensive research on the aftermath of Mt. St. Helens. There were several studies by prominent university environmentalists that predicted what would happen to the area. They were ALL WRONG. The flora and fauna returned at a very rapid pace compared to what they all predicted, and in a completely different sequence. In short, all their guesses were completely WRONG. But they want their guesses to be shoved down our throats as public policy and affect our entire way of life and our pocket books. Of course their research grants won’t be hurt.
In September I was listening to a University of Colorado meteorologist who was in his 70s. He said that after Vietnam and the fall of the Soviet, the military was scaled back and all the military reseach grants dried up. The schools had to find another boogy man to pay for their jobs and justify their existence at the universities. He also said these same global warming experts today were telling us 30 years ago of the coming global winter.
In short, I think they’re full of crap and we need to be alot more worried about that big hunk of rock that we know is headed this way, but we don’t know where it’s at. Now THAT is something to worry about!
Global Warming & Kyoto !!!
The evil Bush Administration ? Not !
Try explaining to the DNC,their mush minded followers, the liberal media and our below standard, teachers union, public school educated, DNC followers and voters about science !
Nuclear fusion, and the sun is now hotter than before! Nuclear fusion, what is that?
And as for Khabibullo Abdusamatov of The Pulkovo Observatory trying to explain to people around the world, that the sun is now hotter and that a cyclic cooling effect will take place in the next 6-8 years……..Wow, thats a little too much for the DNC and the faithful to understand.
Q. Why would that be too much to understand ?
A. That statement contains scientific facts without lies, spin, and a quest for votes, a little too much for the the folks of a dumbed down America !
Here you go publius:
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/newsroom/20050920a.html
The paragraph below is from the full article from the website above.
Press Releases
September 20, 2005
Orbiter’s Long Life Helps Scientists Track Changes on Mars
That’s just one of the surprising discoveries that have resulted from the extended life of NASA’s Mars Global Surveyor, which this month began its ninth year in orbit around Mars. Boulders tumbling down a Martian slope left tracks that weren’t there two years ago. New impact craters formed since the 1970s suggest changes to age-estimating models. And for three Mars summers in a row, deposits of frozen carbon dioxide near Mars’ south pole have shrunk from the previous year’s size, suggesting a climate change in progress.
For newly released images on the Internet, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/mgs-092005-images.html and http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/09/20/ .
For more information about NASA and agency programs on the Internet, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/home
Guy Webster (818) 354-6278
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California
Dolores Beasley (202) 358-1753
NASA Headquarters, Washington
NEWS RELEASE: 2005-152
#6 - It’s not a 50-50 split by the scientists (that matter) on global warming. 9 out of 10 climatologists (people that actually study the global climate!) believe current global warming is a natural cycle AND has little or nothing to do with human acitivity. Global warming occured 1000 years ago. The evidence is irrefutable and undeniable. Who was to blame then?
You know, I was in college during the mid-70’s, and I distinctly remember that there were certain people who were pushing, adamantly, that the risk to the planet was global COOLING.
Of course, that was the fault of humans, also.
Of course it’s the fault of humans, according to libs and the DLWM.
http://www.iceagenow.com
check that one out.
Ken Kelly
#13
Al Williams
#15
Don’t tell the libs! They are still stuck on stupid!
My undergraduate degree is in Environmental Science, and a large part of the course work was related to environmental chemistry, especially as related to pollution formation and disposition. One thing that totally amazes me is that NONE of the chemical reactions that are purported to cause a reduction in stratospheric ozone formation (or conversely, an acceleration of ozone depletion) has ever been produced in a lab. The excuse given for this lack of fundamental verification is that the process is too dynamic and difficult to reproduce in a laboratory, and we should just trust the experts that the reactions work the way they say they do. So, in fact, the mechanism for ozone depletion is just a theory.
This is also true for the concept of global warming. What is the most plausible explanation for an increase in global temperature? Greenhouse gasses cause a lengthy chain reaction which result in more trapped energy, or the sun goes through regular quantifiable cycles whereby its output varies slightly? Personally, I would rely on the eons of data proving that the earth has been both much colder and much warmer than it is today over a few wildly extrapolated data points that would suggest another culprit. The fact is that global warming is real, and it has been caused by natural cycles outside of man’s control, not the least of which is normal fluctuation in the sun’s energy output.
Oh, I almost forgot. Bush did it!
Maltboy
#17
I am impressed! Good job! What most greenies don’t see is the scientific proof of such things. They cannot be proven! Yet, theory becomes fact to the tree huggers.