The Democratic Reconquista
by Owen Courrèges · 04/11/2006 10:26 amMy, doesn’t this look suspicious:
I wonder what our friends on the left think of this? I wouldn’t want to accuse them of being unpatriotic, but if the shoe fits…
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That looks pretty damn accurate to me for the southern State of Texico.
Does this mean dead Mexicans can vote too? The Dems will have to make an adjustment in their voting day menue too. Instead of passing out free sandwiches they need to pass tacos and tortas. One good thing. The Mexicans wont mind the Dems packing 20 of them into a van to go vote.
Hey I have an idea. They can put voting booths at the taco stands along side the road. It will be kinda hard to stick the candidates signs in the hard gravel shoulders though.
Campaign posters here are usually red-white-blue, note that this one is green-white-red…..
This poster needs some interpretation to be understood, so I have a “Top Ten” list of captions for this poster. Here they are:
1) In our eyes, your not criminals, your not illegals, your Democrats.
2) Under a Democratic rule, our land is your land!!
3) Your country can’t take of you–no problem–come to the USA and vote Democrat, we’ll take of you.
4) A vote for us is a vote for food stamps and any other social services. And the best part is its FREE!!!
5) No citizenship, can’t read—no problem—vote Democrat. We’ll show you which lever to pull.
6) Who needs the dead to register and vote, we got the illegals—-DNC.
7) “Give us your tired” and we will make you wards of the poverty pimps. Johnny Mata is waiting for you.
9) Vote Democratic and be used. That is the American way!!!
10) This is our “ticket” back to power—DNC.
I hope you enjoy these!!!
On a serious note, if the LEGAL immigrants would speak up and tell the Congressman they oppose amnesty because they entered this country the proper way then the Congressman would vote the correct way and not worry about losing the hispanic vote. It’s all about votes!!!! nothing else matters, not security, not what’s right—it’s the votes!!!!!
Yesterday one caller on ksev said the illegals he works with said if they don’t get amnesty and citizenship they will riot. Remember back in ‘65 when LBJ let Watts burn and would not send in federal troops to help the local police stop the riots. Well look for bush and perry to do the same here.
I don’t know about you but this ain’t California.
Republicans have been courting the hispanic vote under Bush’s leadership, leading to proposals such as the amnesty program. Do you really think hispanic voters DON’T respond favorably to this? Sure, there are a small number who don’t want to see an amnesty program, but most do.
But do tell, is this little graphic from the Bush administration considered “unpatriotic”?
http://www.mac.doc.gov/nafta/
How exactly does the use of colors other than red, white, and blue constitute a lack of patriotism? Does the idea of cooperation with a group of people just trying to live the American dream make Democrats unpatriotic?
#6
Just making an observation. Look at the fruits of what they are doing.. Mexican flags being waved at protests that are FOR ILLEGAL aliens. If they obeyed the law and becam ecitizens, this would not be an issue would it?
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/opinion/14313114.htm
Cheat sheet about Hispanics — U.S. citizens or not
By ALISA VALDES-RODRIGUEZ
http://www.alisavaldesrodriguez.com
I’m Alisa, and I’m a recovering journalist. Used to write for The Boston Globe and L.A. Times. Quit to be a novelist out of frustration with the media’s incompetent reporting about Hispanics and immigration. In the spirit of helping people overcome the misinformation they often read, I offer the following cheat sheet.
• The words immigrant and Hispanic are not synonyms. The majority of Hispanics in the United States are not immigrants. According to 2004 census data, 60 percent of the more than 40 million Hispanics in this country were born here. Of the 40 percent who were born elsewhere, the majority are legal immigrants, not illegal.
• Many immigrants are not Hispanic. There are 100,000 Nigerians living in and around Houston and thousands of illegal Irish immigrants in and around Boston. China, India, South Korea and Canada are among the leading countries sending people here. Many illegal immigrants are college students and workers who choose to overstay their visas.
• The United States has two international borders. Not one person who has come to the United States from Mexico has been publicly identified as a terrorist. Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh was from Pendleton, N.Y. Maybe we should build a wall around New York instead of across the southern border.
• Enough about the flags, already. They’re symbols of cultural pride, not national allegiance. Think Irish flags on St. Patrick’s Day, or Confederate flags over South Carolina. When newspapers ignorantly frame this debate in ethnic terms, people ignorantly respond with misplaced ethnic pride.
• Language is not genetic. The Pew Hispanic Center shows that by the third generation, 100 percent of Hispanics speak English as their first and often only language. This is the precise assimilation pattern for every other foreign-language immigrant group in this country. (P.S. If you’re so opposed to non-English words, you may speak the names of only 13 American states and almost no cities in the Southwest.)
• Hispanics like to remind you about America’s Hispanic past not because we want to go back to it, but because we are sick of you assuming that all Hispanics are immigrants. My family has been in New Mexico for seven generations. Bet I beat Lou Dobbs on that one.
• Please stop sending e-mails saying things such as ”All you Hispanics should go home.” I, like most Hispanics you see every day, am home.
Perhaps senior admin officials are working on other alternatives that will allow the republicans not to have to cater to the hispanic vote during elections.
“Key figures in a phone-jamming scheme designed to keep New Hampshire Democrats from voting in 2002 had regular contact with the White House and Republican Party as the plan was unfolding, phone records introduced in criminal court show.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12256510/
Is “unpatriotic” the correct term for this?
#9. No need to cater! They just better not expect to get the Hispanic vote! Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California, Florida, Georgia, Carolinas, Midwest too!
Respect our laws and we will respect your “heritage”.. It has nothing to do with being Hispanic, I could care less where you come from….. DO IT LEGALLY!
You are either part of the body or you are a parasite…..
Global-warming must be a fact. Why else would all those hispanics be coming North .
11. Then reform is needed so they can do it legally! We have to accept that the current system is broken and it needs to be fixed!
Right, do it legally… All lawbreakers… go home, come back and do it legally. No jumping to the head of th line!
14. What is the problem with our current system of becoming a citizen? All I have read and seen is that it takes to long. Well…. compared to walking across a border I would agree but that does not seem to be a problem for all of the others who have done it legally.
16. Yes 10-12 years is extremely long! But the main point is the cost involved with the process! It is a great amount of money that has to be spent on lawyers, meetings, paperwork, etc. Many people don’t meet the qualifications financially while they are in Mexico or other countries. The yearly qoutas are also very low and need to be revised.
I believe that time is number one!
Money is number two!
and qaulification is number three!
Those are the three main reasons why they cant follow the process!
fasternu426: I think the protests are asking for an opportunity to do exactly what you’re demanding - obtain citizenship legally. If it was merely a matter of following the law, don’t you think they would choose that over risking their lives to come here?
The point is that the current system is broken - it simply does not give a reasonable chance for people who want to come to this country to provide a better life for themselves and their family to do so legally.
Nearly all illegal immigrants are paying their taxes and contributing to society - shouldn’t they have a chance to work toward becoming a citizen?
#14
The current system is not broken.
What is broken is our government!
How many poor uneducated people do you think this country can absorb?
I wonder why these same patriots of mexico dont try and change their country?
Hmmmm
Sorry man…IMHO most of mexico is undesireable. Why? Could it be the poor uneducated population?
The thing the marchers never address is the LEGALITY of their actions. Breaking the law is no way to show you deserve to be here. I am sorry for what is happening in their country but what gives them the right to change ours to suit them. Why don’t they go back to the country of their origin and change it. We need to close the borders because there are enough of them here now to absorb all the jobs that are available. Any amnesty would only encourage more illegals to come. Enforce the laws and you won’t need new ones. Enforce the laws and maybe they won’t keep coming.
#14/17
By the way, they are trying to reform the law… That’s why the illegals are upset, because it would toughen the existing laws and close the border. They want no border. We are a soverign nation!
Now you have poverty pimps trolling the illegal community for Dimmacrat votes. Republicans are afraid to do anything. And business is wanting cheap labor. We all lose if this continues, brothers and sisters!!! Obey the law, enforce the law!! Not liking a law is not an excuse to break it. If think speed limits are too slow… and I am stopped and cited for speeding, I deserve it!
#18
Not having money is no excuse, I see 20″ rims on mujado-mobiles and there is no shortage of patronage at the cantinas in the East-end…. Maybe they could save their money for an immigration lawyer instead of sending it back to Meheeco.
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#18. Thanks for a realistic answer! Until we admit that the system is broken it cant be fixed!
Realistic answer? Break the laws you do not like in Mexico and see what happens…
#21. No sir you are incorrect! What was attempted was a shot at passing an ignorant law that would criminalize people for helping an illegal! LMAO that is what set it off. Sadly this moron No-Sensenbremmer has just alienated alot of Hispanic voters. The same voters President Bush worked hard on bringing over to the Republican party! But it backfired on him and the other idiots in office! Now these people are going to get amnesty from this… That is something we didnt want but after all of the ignorant comments I have heard, I now welcome them getting it. Sadly we will end up with Hillary in 2008 and in 06 the Dems will have control again of Congress! Thank the fellow Rep. morons who’s true colors shined so brightly during this ordeal!
And for your response to #18… I see you are able to throw in racist remarks without getting banned! Heaven forbid anyone else do this!! WoW and no its not racist right?
#22 & #18
The only thing that is broken is the law — about 20M times!
If we had a President and legislative branch with some cojones we wouldn’t be having this stupid debate. The border would be shut down and the lawbreakers returned to their home countries whence they came.
I can’t wait to get one of those Republican party mailers. Gonna stuff it full of Bush Bucks!!
Tejano, dude, you crack me up! I’ll eat my sombrero if your not a registered Demoncat/TMO activist. You don’t believe the illegals want no borders? Check out photo #6 on Chron’s Images of Monday’s Houston march.
Tejano:
If you hadn’t said anything about the racism in the remarks, I was going to. Of course, then I looked at the website linked to his name, and realized what sort of person we’re talking to.
I only wonder how many of the cars shown on the t-shirts he sells are sitting on blocks in the front yard in front of his double-wide in Magnolia.
You see, the stereotypes can go both ways.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.. A country (Mexico) that has as young thief as one of their storybook heroes will never understand “The Rule of Law”. And neither do U.S. Senators.
#26. Sorry but I am not a Democrat! I vote Republican all the time! I am against everything Dems stand for, Gay marriage/against, Abortion/against, Big govt./against, etc. etc.
No I know for sure they dont want open borders! Even they want the borders shut, but a comprehensive plan adopted!
You guys are as bad as the Democrats saying there is no problem with Social Security! LMAO
American Muscle Grafix has been a generous donor to LST, and slams against it will not be tolerated.
Can I just say, in regard to the depiction of Texas being part of Mexico, OVER MY DEAD BODY!!
OVER MY DEAD BODY
#27. LOL thats what happens when a brother and sister have kids together! Kinda reminds me of Joe Dirt! That was his car on his website!
#30. Ah but racist remarks will be, right?
Instead you should be disassociating it from a racist pig, tarnishing their image!
#28. What theif is that? Robin Hood?
Carefull there, Tejano. You may “alienate” your fan base. Glad to see you support some conservative ideas.
Sorry, Matt, I didn’t realize paying off the blog allowed a person to make persistant racist statements without as much as a peep from any LST staff member.
#35. I do support the majority of conservative ideas!
My religion and heritage force me too!
* And no I dont want amnesty!
* I dont want open borders!
* I dont want any special treatment for illegals!
* And I dont deny they broke the law!
All I ask for is a comprehensive solution to the problem! Unfortunately I think our leaders screwed it up and awoke a giant that didnt have to be awaken!
Tejano, Bobby….. yaaawn.
“our leaders screwed it up and awoke a giant that didnt have to be awaken!”
Is this your leader? (the one on the right)
http://simiolsons.com/scottsblog/uploaded_images/Vicente%20Fox-797314.jpg
Tejano
Our immigration and naturalization services were never intended to handle millions and millions of people flowing across our borders. There’s approximately 1M a year coming here illegally (probably more). Is your “comprehensive solution” to the problem to fix our laws to allow millions and millions more to come here, perhaps legally? To make it easier to come here? We don’t need any more uneducated, poor, unskilled workers coming into this country. Mexico is exporting their poverty and we are importing poverty. We keep this up and the middle class will cease to exist. The flow of illegals from Mexico and South America is the largest migration in the history of the world. I am all in favor of our immigration laws changing to that of Mexico.
On monday Houston demonstation was well organised, disciplined and mucho US flags were on display. However, one important ingredient was missing.
There were no attractive looking chicks.
#41
If the same passion could be displayed in their demonstration back home, all roads will lead back to Mexico.
#40. I understand your concern! Please understand my P.O.V. as it comes directly from the other side of the issue.
Many of them dont want to live here! If you gave them the option to easily come under a controlled enviroment, they would do so. Many just want to work and go back home after some time. What ends up happening is they get here, make way better money and find it extremely difficult to return home! (not that they dont want to, they just cant) So what happens is then they bring their family here and it goes on and on… but if you reform it to allow more to come in under a guest worker program, they will come here under the program.
Therefor you keep track of them, they pay taxes and they go home! No need for any extraordinary measures to be taken. Everyone is happy…
#39. I see this is yours.
http://legacyrecordings.com/joedirt/joedirtcover400×399.jpg
37 it allows him to do what ever the hell he wants blogs cosst money thus anyone the blog like will be allowed to do whatever becuase that it the way it is if you don’t like it don’t come personnally it is a private blog there is much worse things on the interweb to complain about. and in my opinion he was not being blatantly racist you were just being a overly sensitive liberal piece of trash that always pulled the racism card to hide his insucurity in hisself so either suck it up like a man or just get used to it.
43 so the person who would ILLEGALLY enter a country is likely to follow different laws to get in instead of the old ones it is not like it is chuccky cheese and you get a stamp at the door there is going to be a hell of alot of paperwork even for a “guest worker” so they will still come illegally
legally come and fill out papper work and pay taxes? OR come illegally get same job and don’t pay taxes.
http://www.saunalahti.fi/frog1/wavs/eunuch.wav
http://www.saunalahti.fi/frog1/wavs/catchlater.wav
#46 You nailed it. That’s about the extent of it. It all comes down to the dinero and path of least resistance.
46: Even illegal immigrants pay taxes. They pay for goods which have sales tax associated with them. They pay property taxes through renting apartments or other housing. Often they pay social security and FICA taxes through fake social security numbers. And, because they don’t have real social security numbers, they are contributing to the system without ever being able to get credit for that contribution, even if they become legal in the future. They are subsidizing OUR retirement.
And fasternu426’s snide comments about “Meheeco” certainly are racist. And Bramanti, for one, can certainly vouch for the fact that I’m not an overly sensitive liberal, by any sense of the imagination.
If the LST staff can live with the fact that they pander to people who advertise, then they have violated their own sense of principle they espouse through this blog. But then again, when you associate with typical politicians who swear they won’t take from special interests or will limit what they take in campaign contributions, and then back down from their own principled stand, you start to wonder if they really do have any principles to stand on.
meheeco?
OMFG Fasternu you RACIST HE SHOULD BE BANNED
sorry man that is not overly racist you can suck it up
#43
If millions can organize in the US to demand a change to current laws then why can’t they do the same for change in Mexico - after all, that is where they want to be?
51: The vast majority of those marching are U.S. citizens. They are marching on behalf of relatives and loved ones who are not U.S. citizens, but wish to become citizens. Therefore, they are marching for change in their own country.
And I think the whole point is that they want to be here, and not in Mexico.
kidwittehtape: Unfortunately for other conservatives, the lack of civility exhibited by you and others overshadows the attempts by others to intelligently argue the issues on behalf of the conservative movement.
Keep up the good work.
Bobby, don’t get your panties in a was, or I’ll start pointing out your split infinitives.
Tejano
I am trying to understand your POV. Why does the U.S. need millions and millions of latinos (just a word describing Mexicans and South American people) to come into this country? We cannot hold the entire population of the Latino countries.
We are the United States of America. The greatest country the world has ever known. Of course, every one in the world wants to come here. The US makes Great Britain look like a second world country. We just cannot take all the world’s population! Did you read my post where I stated that the latino migration into the U.S. was the largest in the history of the WORLD? What do you not understand about this? Enough is enough!
A solution is to (1) SHUT DOWN OUR BORDER and when that is accomplished, (2) offer amnesty (guest worker, whatever) to the ones here (realistically, we can’t deport them). Then, NO MORE AMNESTY to anyone! No more! And not just latinos, but people of all countries. Have a moritorium of about 5 years on ALL immigration until we get our enforcement laws in order and can protect our borders.
I’m sorry the Mexicans, etal cannot get what they want from their countries, but holding me hostage in my own country is not the answer. These people have NO RIGHTS here!
Neocon,
“I’m sorry the Mexicans, etal cannot get what they want from their countries, but holding me hostage in my own country is not the answer. These people have NO RIGHTS here!”
Because I’m sure you’re hurting soooo badly here. Being held hostage? Please.
Where is your Christian sense of social justice?
53 i am allowed to be this abnoxius, i am 16 and you well, when i am arguing with you it is like you are some freshman freak that is over obsessive with racism in PE
Bobby Warren
#56
What’s your point? My Christian sense of social justice demands people respect the law. Render unto Caeser what is Caesar’s….
#56 - Sorry, man. I don’t buy your arguments. Illegal immigration is a gateway for Mexico to rid themselves of many of their problems for free. They also get the benefit of dollars into their economy. Illegal immigration also has increased crime in the border states, brings disease and the possibility of terrorism. Finally, Illegals consume far more resources than they pay in ‘taxes’.
Overall it isn’t worth it. Your arguments don’t hold water.
TEJANO how do we prevent this ?
On the News of CBN on 4-11-06.
Well folks Hugo Chavez has taken over Venezuela, nationalized some companies, taken control of the oil and buying weapons that far exceed anything he needs for national defense. He will intimidate his neighbors and subvert South America and it has already begun, along with the help of the old commie fossil Castro.
He is getting high tech “stuff” from Russia, China and N.Korea and even Iran with oil dinero. His Communist ideals have now spread to Peru, Boliva, and even Chile has gone Marxist.
Now the news that the very popular Mayor of Mexico City who is reported to be a Communist may be running for President of Mexico to replace Vincente Fox.
If he wins we now have our southern hemisphere to deal with big time on a military basis. In the event this occurs we will NEED a Republican President who is strong on national defense and security.
Can you imagine a Hillary-Hildabeast-Clinton or a John-Vietnam-Kerry or a fence rider poll driven McCain or a Jimmy-peanut-Carter type dealing with any Communist leaders in a political Chess game ?
These foreign leaders would eat them alive, “hands up”, no contest !
Q. So, TEJANO, how do we convince the illegals that for their own long term good, the Republican Party is the way to go. If they have families they want safety and security for them also. The DNC is Soooooo weak on national defense, national security and moral values that they will trade off security, safety and defense for VOTES !
How do you get the message to all of the illegals with the DNC and liberal media doing all of the pandering for votes ? Votes from people who do not have a legal right to vote as long as they are illegal????
Could an illegal American in Mexico vote in their elections and demand rights ?
#45. Oh Im pulling the race card? LMAO Overly sensitive? haha I’m not the one that lower himself in order to make me feel good about myself! I dont call people names or write meheeco in order to make me feel good! But believe what you want! Life goes on!
#46. And learn to spell!
#55 Neocon!
Why does the U.S. need millions and millions of latinos?
In order to fill in low paying jobs in this country! It is false that we want to do those jobs, I have yet to hear an outcry from New Orleans residents about illegals rebuilding thier city. Face it, some people don’t want to work. And until we totally disolve the Welfare system we will have them just sitting around.
One argument made frequently is that Americans used to do these jobs! Yes but at a time when there was no welfare and you had to work to survive, also it was a different generation. At that time Mexico had a strong economy and there was no reason to come here, and if you did you would pay a nickel at the border and cross! (For those with Mexican blood who claim their ancestors did it the right way)
Also the claim of everyone wanting to come here is false! I have family who would never think of ever coming here. Although many have visas and they visit every once in a while but never want to stay more than a few days. My point is that not all of them want to come here as is portrayed in the media.
Neocon
A solution is to (1) SHUT DOWN OUR BORDER and when that is accomplished, (2) offer amnesty (guest worker, whatever) to the ones here (realistically, we can’t deport them). Then, NO MORE AMNESTY to anyone! No more!
Tejano
1) I agree shut down the border
2) I disagree on amnesty! Dont give amnesty!!!
Instead recognize them, register them, and tell them they can stay and work, pay taxes, and contribute to society. Allow them to apply for citizenship and go through the process (they will do it). Deport all the law breakers immediately.
These people are not looking for a handout! The original protest was against the Sensenbremmer bill. Later it was infiltrated by special interest groups and they pushed the people to ask for amnesty! But most just didnt want to be classified as felons, along with those who assisted them!
#60. Doch4
You have nailed it right on the head!
How do we prevent this, I have no clue! Honestly I think the damage is done. I believe the Democrats took advantage of the situation and cashed in on the moment. They managed to spread propaganda at these rallies (I was there) and convince people that Republicans including Bush were doing this. Most interviewed on TV have backed this up! Ex. Tancredo and others.
What I believe has happened is they have alienated most of the Hispanic population in most states! Look at the protest and where they took place.
Texas, Florida, Arizona, New Mexico, New York, California, OHIO, and other midwest states. Some swing states included.
I am going to tell you one thing Republicans screwed up on!
During the Presidents election in 04 the Churchs really campaigned for him very heavily!
One thing about Hispanics is their deep devotion to religion especially the Catholic Church and The Vatican.
Sensenbremmers bill to make helping illegal people a felony stabbed the church in the back! Therefor the church rallied people to get active in politics and let their voice be heard. If you believe certain radio hosts that say all these people were illegal and have no voice you are incorrect. Most were legal citizens who were out at the rallies! And new voting block that Republicans just created against them.
I have tried my best to convert latinos to the Rep. party but I am undermined when as Im speaking to them about the party Tancredo is on TV behind me spewing hate! Pres. Bush has done alot of work to bring the Hispanic vote in because of moral values! The party has managed to shoot that down now!!!
#56
Pleeease…get off your lib high-horse. If you are so concerned about social justice, get your can down to Mexico and help those people fight for it. And if you think we’ve got it sooooo good in Harris County, please write a big fat check to Paul Bettencourt and earmark it for HISD and the Hospital District, et al. Show some Christian charity along with that Christian social justice you like to talk about.
The fact is the illegals get more in this country than they ever thought possible, thanks to the federal, state, and local taxpayers like neocon and myself who are held hostage and constantly fleeced by a corrupt tax appraisal district and very little representation in DC (Queen Sheila is my rep).
A corrupt Tax appraisal district! Shouldnt you see Mr. Bettencourt about that? And not illegals, after all they are not the tax collector!
Tejano–
NO. Mr. Bettencourt has nothing to do with real estate tax appraisals. If fact, he has championed a 5% or less cap on appraisal-creep. HCAD is an appointed board that does not answer to the taxpayers. They answer to the tax revenue consumers, i.e. illegals, etc.
I thought you were a conservative and believe in less guvmit! Do you believe property tax appraisals are fair accross the board?
#67. Im sure Mr. Bettencourt is innocent!
No I dont believe Tax appraisals are fair across the board! Yes I do want taxes lowered, but how are illegals brought into the picture? They too pay the same amount of Property taxes as you do! So what is the problem?
Tejano:
In the State of Texas, tax assessor/collectors are kept very seperate from central appraisal districts, and rightly so.
Paul Bettencourt — Harris County Tax Assessor/Collector — runs the tax office. All he does is send out bills and take in checks, based on the assessed values that the Harris County Appraisal District comes up with.
Jim Robinson — HCAD’s Chief Appraiser — runs the appraisal district. His agency is responsible for setting the taxable value of all property in the county.
Your wild accusations against Paul are completely off base. It’s like getting mad at the fire department when a cop gives you a ticket.
lol… Im not mad at anyone! I just answered to the person who brought him up! I know how HCAD works, I deal with them every day!
There you go again with the lol. Kinda like stuttering (not that there is anything wrong with that).
Neocon, and your point is?