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15 Responses to “BREAKING NEWS: St. Lukes Reneged on Andrea Clark Transfer Deal”
  1. Rorschach on April 28th, 2006 at 10:30 pm

    Should we start organizing the round the clock armed guards?

  2. prolifeblogs on April 29th, 2006 at 1:31 am

    Any Texans up for a protest?

  3. Jaime on April 30th, 2006 at 7:16 am

    St. Lukes is affiliated with which church?

    Can Ms. Andrea’s family afford the transportation cost? If not, I pledge $50 to raise the funds.

  4. BSue on April 30th, 2006 at 8:13 am

    Jaime, the transportation costs were not the reason the trip was cancelled. The receiving facility realized that they were not equipped to handle the complexity of her care. and St Luke’s is Episcopal.

  5. mrygill2 on April 30th, 2006 at 11:12 am

    Who is paying for Andrea’s care?

  6. Rorschach on April 30th, 2006 at 12:35 pm

    That is a bit fuzzy, she does have insurance through one of Blue Cross/Blue Sheild’s affiliates, I do not know which one. I do not know if they cap lifetime payouts or not. If I had to venture a guess, I’d say that she has well and truly blown through her lifetime cap and at this point it is either being paid by medicaid or by the hospital themselves. But that is only a guess on my part.

  7. TEX06 on April 30th, 2006 at 8:27 pm

    It would appear that we, the general public, is paying. Therefore it is totally appropriate for the Hospital’s Committe to make a decision as to whether the expenditure of medical resourses in this case is wise. For every dollar spent for one case, someone else is denied care and treatment. there are finite medical resourses in this nation.

  8. Squawkbox Noise on April 30th, 2006 at 8:43 pm

    TEX06

    Therefore it is totally appropriate for the Hospital’s Committe to make a decision as to whether the expenditure of medical resourses in this case is wise. For every dollar spent for one case, someone else is denied care and treatment. there are finite medical resourses in this nation.

    Oh really? So how do you feel about the millions of indigents and illegals that walk into the emergency room everyday seeking help? I would suggest that they stretch the “finite medical resources in this nation” more than this single case.

    Boy we have come a long way in the department of human compassion haven’t we.

  9. TEX06 on April 30th, 2006 at 9:18 pm

    The illegals should go back to their country of origin — or have their illegal employers pay for it up front in cash.

    The indigent should have the same rules of medical realism applied to them as the wealthy –and even not so wealthy.

    The real issue here is the very human [sometimes cloaked as "compassion"] desire to spend some one else’s money!

  10. mrygill2 on April 30th, 2006 at 9:25 pm

    Squawk:
    2 wrongs don’t make a right. It’s wrong to spend taxpayer’s money to fund the care of illegals. And it’s wrong to spend taxpayer’s money to provide unlimited care to a dying woman when so many others could benefit.

    The facts as presented here and by the Chronicle indicate the Chicago facility determined that Andrea was too ill for them to care for. That doesn’t mean St. Luke’s reneged - it means that the Chicago facility refused to take her. Let’s place the blame where it belongs, please.

  11. Squawkbox Noise on April 30th, 2006 at 10:10 pm

    Hmmm I wonder what the reaction would have been if the story was “Woman struggling to live is kicked out of St Lukes” rather than the story that it is that some doctors decided to pull the plug?

    Oh really? So how many people are losing care because of this one woman?

  12. jimb on April 30th, 2006 at 10:44 pm

    …and who’s to say that she’s “dying”? I haven’t spoken to both sides here, but I have not heard anybody say that the woman is terminal, or even that she’s “indigent”. There’s an awful lot of speculation going on here on the part of those who want to see St. Luke’s get their way…

  13. Ree-C Murphey on April 30th, 2006 at 11:07 pm

    Andrea is not terminal. She is not dying. She is very, very sick. She also has an amazing spirit and will to live. She has told her family she wishes to live.

    As far as I am concerned, she should be allowed that chance.

    If you, as a sick person, are being “graded” for lack of a better term, on your ability to pay and your “quality of life” and that is being used to decide whether or not you should be allowed to live, then we are back to the Middle Ages and Serfdom. In other words, we become the property of the state; we live and die at the pleasure of the state.

    That is a very bad place for any of us to be……..

  14. SimpleSimon on May 1st, 2006 at 7:51 am

    Like it or not, having to choose is reality. I, for one am glad that I do not have to make such choices.

    I watched my father lay in a bed in a near vegatative state for 3 months after a massive stroke. It was his worst fear and expressed his desire to have the plug pulled in that event.

    The family was not united on this issue, therefore the hospital kept him alive until his body ultimately failed.

    If there is a moral in all of these scenarios is that all of us should make a living will. You cannot count on anyone else to make the right decision.

    Simple

  15. Ree-C Murphey on May 1st, 2006 at 8:38 am

    Simple:

    The problem in the scenario of “living will” is this: if the hospital committee decides that your care is “futile”, it will withdraw an treatment after “reasonable” notice of 10 days.

    It does not matter what your living will states; if it states that treatment will continue, the committee can decide to counter-act it.

    It only takes ONE doctor to decide your care is futile. These hospital committees tend to “rubber stamp” it. Then no other hospital in the state of Texas will counter the decision. That means, if you or your family feels differently, there is no place for you to transfer to in Texas! It doesn’t matter if you can pay cash on the barrelhead, no hospital will counter-act another hospital!

    Do you see the danger in this?

    One Doctor will determine that a human being, no matter what, that this human will die………

    It usually takes 12 human beings to decide a death penalty on a criminal that committed a heinous act.

    In practice, it takes ONE DOCTOR.

    Of course the insurance companies are ecstatic that this is being done.

    This is a very bad place to be in the law, in our government, in business (as in healthcare business).

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