Thought for the day:
“Which caused more muslims to want to be terrorists? 1) America’s put-your tail-between -your legs and run in Somolia or 2) the current war in Iraq? I say the former. Can’t prove it, but the cut and run showed the muslims America has no backbone. Me thinks the terrorists and insurgents still alive today might have a slightly different opinion .I And if there are more of them today, that’s a good thing because that means there are more of them to kill.
Oh, by the way, Has Anybody Here Seen My Old Friend Osama?, Omar, Al Zawahari etc.?
I’m sure if America wouldn’t direspect the muslims they would love us and accept us instead of chopping off innocents’ heads or blowing up innocent people just so they could get at those 42 ugly virgins.
I suggest that you do a little more reading about the history of the Middle-East if you want to truly understand the “why” and reasons we are not well liked today in the Middle-East.
It probably doesn’t matter. The die is cast and I do not believe anything we can do will change the average middle-eastern “man-in-the-street’s perception of us.
Barring total genocide, I do not believe that there is any short term military solution to the issue.
Containing terrorism or fighting terrorism in Iraq is pretty absurd. Not surprisingly most of the American people are coming to this opinion also. Regrettably, GWB, Cheny, and Rummy will still be standing at the station when the train leaves.
Before you start flaming me, understand this. I am not a dreamy-eyed liberal pacifist. Unlike GWB, Cheny, and Rummy, I have actually seen war up close and personal. I know that we have a clash of cultures going on today and the stakes are high. My problem is simple. Our leaders are not fighting smart or correctly. They are fighting like they have never fought a war before, which it turns out is the case.
simple what i think i heard here is they arent doing it right.
i would like to know what is right.
i agree they have made mistakes and big ones in carrying out this war.
for some reason the terror has progressed thru the years to bigger and better terror. in the beginning we kinda did nothing but say it was a police issue. now we are at war in a strange country.
i do not know the answer - but i do know japan surrendered after we beat them on the battlefield (meaning the bomb). also, germany was bombed into anniliation. niether country has been a problem in the world recently.
SimpleSimon,I agree wholeheartedly with most of your assessments . I for one feel that the class of religeons, not the class of cultures, is what’s going to ultimately set the big one off.
However to blame the U.S. is not totally accurate since it usually takes two side to create a conflict and how far back in history does one need to go to justify his side is right and the other side is the bad guy? I just think we are starting at two different points in time (History) if you think the U.S. is entirely to blame for the mess we have today in the Middle East.
P.S. Thanks for not telling me to “Drink the Cool-aid” one of Bill O’Reilly’s favorite lines lately usurped by someone else who breifly wrote on this blog.
Barring total genocide, I do not believe that there is any short term military solution to the issue.
I agree with much of what you say but I would add that there is also no chance of a diplomatic solution. We tried that when we abandoned the Shah in the 70s, when Reagan left Lebanon in the ’80s and when we pulled our military out of Saudi Arabia. All this did was embolden an irrational enemy. Unfortunately, I think the only solution will end up being a defeat so complete that the islamic fascists will completely lose the will to fight, much like it took with the Japanese in 1945.
One thing I disagree with in your post is the suggestion that only people who have served in the military are capable of prosecuting a war. History is filled with contradictions to that position.
Simple,
I couldn’t have put it into words as well as you did, but you express my exact sentiments.
We’re being led by warmongers that have never been to war and they refuse to admit that going to war in Iraq was a huge mistake. They took their focus off of Osama to persue a different agenda and look where we are now.
Can’t you just feel the love? Can we have group hug?
Seriously, I believe that we are not preparing for the inevitable conflict to come. I really don’t care if the reason is religon or culture, when you get down to the SIMPLE facts, it will be us or them.
We are far too dependent upon foreign oil today to kick sand in anyone’s face. This is where we need to start the fight be getting ready.
John 16
1″All this I have told you so that you will not go astray.2They will put you out of the synagogue;in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God.3They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. 4I have told you this,so that when the time comes you will remember that I warned you. I did not tell you this at first because I was with you.
I gotta ask…..given the current position our armed forces find themselves in RIGHT NOW……….what are your thoughts on a viable course of action from here?
I am NOT trying to create controversy (although most ANY blog post will do just that)…….I truly am seeking your opinion…………
Simple, I can agree with the your reasoning about why we are hated, but to say that “Containing terrorism or fighting terrorism in Iraq is pretty absurd” is pretty absurd. Currently, we are drawing those who would kill us into a fight in Iraq instead of a fight in America. Many of the groups that hate us the most are being forced to plan operation in Iraq in addition to anything else they might want to do.
Neocon, re last nights post. If I dont buy GWB war plans that doesnt make me a Liberal. C’mon. I do understand the big picture. Install Democracy in that region and walahh, peace and prosperity with Dominoes home delivery, no time for jihad.Happy little Arabs and Muzlims playing baseball at the parks. Sounds great!
There is one little problemo. The strategery isnt working and the situation on the ground is deteriating rapido. So, do you blindly trust GWB and Rummy who by all acounts misjudged this war or do you seek some other solutions?
Last night on Larry King he had Woodward on to throw softballs to. King asked Woodward what he thinks will happen and Wood said something like ” I think the time is coming where GWB will call in the Dems and other leaders and have an all nighter and figure out what to do in a bi partisan way to get us out of Iraq without looking like Somalia. Its clear the present course is not working.”
That to me sounds like a start. Big picture and goals are great if the plan is sound and its working. Kinda like a football team down 40 points in the 4th quarter and they are running the ball.If I say they should throw the ball that doesnt make me anti-football or I hate the coach.
Last night on Larry King he had Woodward on to throw softballs to. King asked Woodward what he thinks will happen and Wood said something like ” I think the time is coming where GWB will call in the Dems and other leaders and have an all nighter and figure out what to do in a bi partisan way to get us out of Iraq without looking like Somalia. Its clear the present course is not working.”
This would be the most disasterousthing Bush could do. Bush needs to lean on the Pentagon to come up with a new strategy.
Katfish
Thanks for your comments. I’ve got a daughter and grandson in the military and I wish to God I had the answer to “where do we go from here”.
The one thing I am very sure of is that Bush and Rummy don’t have a solution and all they are doing is dividing our great country into “us versus them”
Stay the course is not a solution, it’s just a campaign slogan!
And God help us if Henry Kissenger is really advising Bush on the conduct of the war. He’s still pissed about Nixon not taking his advice about Viet Nam. Talk about real chickenhawks, Henry, George and Donald are poster children.
Simple, I disagree. We are killing many more of the enemy then they are killing of us. The enemy has had to revise their plan because their old tactics stopped working as well. They have not had the resources to push at us in the conflict, they are still reacting to our presence for the most part. There has been very little organization on their part on a large scale. Yes we need to revise our plan. Yes we have made mistakes. However, I think if we finish what we started in Iraq, we will see big payoffs in the future.
Last post should have said Kissenger was and is still pissed that Johnson and Nixon ignored some of his advice. Henry is an egomaniac of the first order.
The fake veterans and Liberal ones are coming out of the woodwork all over the blogosphere now that the election is coming up fast. Have you noticed all the new posters who have the same message?
The nutroots is highly organized and is unified. They appear on this and other blogs with posts along these themes:
1. “I’m really a Conservative, but I’m disgusted so I’m staying home.”
That’s so that they can convince conservatives to stay home, while they show up in droves. All that proves is that conservatives are the key to winning elections, whether they go to the polls or stay home.
Thanks for proving the point that Liberals can’t win unless Conservatives stay home, BTW.
2. I’m the Reasoned voice of Moderation while anybody who disagrees with me is an irrational partisan.
This is called limiting the debate and maringalizing your opponent.
We don’t need a “daddy” to tell us we’re wrong or to wave a sanctimoin ious finger at us for imagined trangressions of rhetoric. We need people who will present a solution at the same time they show us a problem. This will actually give us something to debate and discuss. Everything else is just finger pointing, but presentied in a Rational, Moderate way that makes it look like something else.
3. I’m a Veteran and I know this war is wrong.
Viet Vet and Simple simon:
What was your MOS and where did you serve? What unit were you with there? Who was commanding Officer? (And don’t give me the “It was so long ago I can’t remember line. EVERYBODY remembers thier CO.)
What years did you serve and where did you do your Basic Training and AIT?
Sorry for the questions, but when the IVAW put a microphone in Jesse MacBeth’s hand, it made those questions necessary. It also spawned people who created web based sources for checking military credentials. Be advised, you’ll definetly be outed if you’re making a false claim of service, Better just to fade away than try to continue the subterfuge.
If your genuine, you’ll understand why these questions need be asked, and willl graciously accept the apology already given.
4. Fighting terrorism in countries in the Middle East is absurd. That’s why Iraq is a mistake.
But they won’t tell you where we should be fighting them, or how…nor will they give you any solutions.
If I’m going to kill ants, I go to the ant bed, I don’t stand by the kitchen door and hit them one at a time.
Our presence in Iraq bore fruit last fall when Iranian airplanes tried to resupply Hezbollah and were denied the rights to fly through Iraqi airspace and the Turks told them the only way they could tranist that country was to land and be inspected. Anybody who thinks that the guy who paid $25,000 to every Palestinian family who had a sone that blew himself up in a crowed shopping center in Isreal (that would be Saddam Hussein for those of you who have bought into the notion that he did not present a “terror threat” before the war) wouldn’t have allowed not only airplanes, but trains and truck full of military hardware and reenforcements for the Iranian troops and Hezbollah in Lebanon is a dangerous fool.
The cetner of the Middle East is Iraq. It occupies the heart of the region, and thus controls it. it is the most important theater in the Global War on Terror…and not b/c GWB says so. It’s because Osama bin Laden and Ayma al Zawahiri have said so. When you and your enemy both agree on where the most important battle field is, the one who doesn’t occupy that ground is losing.
5. We are not well liked in the Middle East, that’s the crux of the bisquit.
Which is crap. This is to get you to think that all we need to do is get them to like us and we can all put on our hemp ponchos and go down by the river to sip herbal tea together. War is not the answer, only Love can Conquer Hate. C’mon Brother now, let’s try to live together…..yadda, yadda, yadda….
Hasn’t worked before…lets try doing something else…like fight a war in thier own frikken back yard so that THEY pay the price for terrorism.
Caring about whether our enemy likes or not is dangerous. Trying to figure out whether or not it’s our fault is dangerous, because we did not attack them, they attacked us…which means we are right and they are wrong. They attacked us and want us to die, and it’s because they fold their religion into their politics, and their religion says that they are superior to everybody else who does not beleive. It’s real easy not to like everybody that way. If your core belief is that everybody who doesn’t beleive as you do should pay a tax just so they can continue to live on earth, you’re not going to like them.
Our being in Iraq is not the reason the reason the Muslims are fighting…
Nor was our support for the Shah - who by the way tried to modernize his country and educate women….
Nor was Somalia a factor….
…or any other event in the last 100 or so years.
Muslims were killing Christian in the Middle Ages - which was one of the reasons the Crusades were fought.
They STILL want to kill Christians (or anyone else who is not Muslim) so any argument that begins with “We should not have”; or “We should not be”; or “If we only”; is entirely beside the point!
I think GWB has sat down with the dems to discuss many matters, including education and the war. That may be part of the reason for the PC process continuing.
The only way to win the war on terror is to go back to the military thinking of WW1 and 2: bomb civilians. Collateral damage is inevitable. How many civilians have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq over the past 4 years? and how many would have been killed if we had dropped a bomb in (I believe OBL was in) Kandahar when he was there, and in Sadr City and other areas of Iraq where we knew the insurgents were gathering. And that is exactly what we need to do in North Korea and Iran. The US has plenty of oil; what we need to do is go against the tree huggers and build oil refineries and nuclear reactors for energy. If you do not think nuclear energy is safe, have you heard of any sailors aboard the nuclear subs getting radiation poisoning? Has there ever been a major problem aboard one?
I suggest that you do a little more reading about the history of the Middle-East if you want to truly understand the “why” and reasons we are not well liked today in the Middle-East.
While I don’t have the solution to the terrorist problem (other than we need to kill them before they kill us) I could really care less why we are not well liked in the Middle East. Hell, we are not well liked anywhere and I think much of it is pure jealousy. Nothwitstanding, just because someone doesn’t like you doesn’t give them any justification for killing you. There are some people that I don’t like, but I don’t go around killing them.
My letter to the President this morning.
No wonder we get frustrated. When all we can do is write letters, call our Rinos, and vote for Kinky goofballs. I want to slap some of these people and tell them to shut down the border and stand up to the PC crowd. I am tired of being the one who is offended.
To WhiteHouse.gov,
Why is there even a bill on internet gaming in the system right now? Is the border shut down? Have illegal aliens stopped killing police officers? Have school principals stopped banning the mention of Christmas? Have insane people stopped walking into schools to kill students?
I am glad that the President has his priorities straight. Wouldn’t want to have someone sit at their computer and play cards.
I voted for President Bush, 41, and have voted in Republican primaries and generals ever since.
This time I am voting for Kinky Friedman for Texas Governor.
Why, because Governor Perry has not controlled the border and he has raised taxes.
Imagine all the less passionate Republican voters who will just stay home this November.
Keep it up and we will lose the entire Legislative Branch.
sometimes we just should not fight a politically correct war. be as careful as possible but win the fight - thats what the terrorists are doing - trying to win the war polilically correct be dammed as far as they are concerned.
The only tactic we are not using that folks who claim that tell me we are not jusing that we should be is invading syria and Iran. That and we didn’t descerate a graveyard in one attack.
We kill our enemies everyday, and we use every means at our disposal to do it. We don’t carpetr bomb citiers anymore, because we have the technology to pick our targets precisely. This is not to limit casualties, it is to conserve resoursces. We search mosques and we attack them when we know there are bad guys in there.
We also build roads, schools, and repair infrastructure. I really can’t see a good reason why we shouldn’t. We need to show the fence sitters over there that we are the best friend or the worst enemy those folks have. One without the other is ineffective.
Post 22 - Sargevining
Give me your e-mail address or phone number and I will be glad to detail my military service complete with dates of service in RVN.
Swiftboating might have worked in the past, but not with me.
We’re being led by warmongers that have never been to war and they refuse to admit that going to war in Iraq was a huge mistake. They took their focus off of Osama to persue a different agenda and look where we are now.
Viet Vet,
It is amazing that you and my husband, a combat Viet Nam Veteran 69-70, 11th Cavalry, are so diametrically opposed in their thinking. The only mistake that is being made in Iraq is that we are being too nice to the bad guys. Noone wants innocent civilians caught up in the crossfire, but in war things happen that you would like to avoid but can’t. If we stopped worrying about whether or not the terrorists were in a mosque, whether it was a religious holiday, et. al. and were just simply tough and prepared to get the job done maybe the muslims would think twice about the superiority complex of “you’re either muslim or dead”. And if the civilians are allowing the terrorists to live in their midst, storing their weapons in their homes, then they are complicit in their actions and should not be considered collateral damage.
It is much better to fight on ground favorable to you than the enemy.
Simple,
Surely you are not suggesting that you would rather fight the terrorists here than there are you? The only good that would come of that is that it would wake up the millions of peaceniks to the real world.
There was a colonel or general on the news recently (can’t remember the exact rank, nor the name) that put into words the frustration that I am sure that many in the military feel right now:
The American military is at war, while America is at the mall.
It’s time that all of us started accepting whatever sacrifices need to be made in order to win this war. Whatever happened to the unity and self-sacrifice that helped us win WWII?
So much for the warm fuzzies. As far as I’m concerned, anyone who uses the “chickenhawk” argument loses all credibility in the debate.
And it’s been my experience, Hammie, that those who make the “chickehawk” argument ar those who never served. Those of us who have know that we don’t hold any special knowledge or are an “better” than anybody else. This from Mil Blogs, talking about Jackipoos Murtha explains it best for me:
Rep. Murtha plays the bully
[CDR Salamander]
All due respect to Rep. Murtha and all, but I am sorry; just because you served does not give you the right to play bully-boy with those who have not.
Sure, it is OK, sometimes, if you are backed into a corner to pull out your DD214 if someone who never served is talking about Tactical issues and is smearing and/or sending out bad gouge, etc; but when it comes to Strategic issues, I am sick of the “You haven’t served, you can’t disagree with me. My opinion cannot be questioned.” way of avoiding the core issue.
That is so old, tired, and foolish. Prime Minister Thatcher never served, however it can be argued that she is easily in the Top 5 civilian leaders who “Got it.” Should she have caved to the opinion of some Old Labor defeatist who thought they should give the Falklands to the Argentineans, or unilaterally disarmed in the face of the Soviets just because he spent the mid-1940’s fighting his way up Italy? No. The Chickenhawk habit is way past Chicken$(%
And I agree with the Commander, any Veteran who uses the “chickenhawk” argument is using his service to be a bully.
clikc on my name, it will take me to my blog. Register and post a comment anywhere. The comments are Moderated so I will catch it b4 it posts and it won’t become public…unless we catch something that points obviously to something incredibly wrong. You are advised that you will be publicly outed if your claim to service is false. If you have trouble registering, somebody here will be glad to help you out.
We outed a guy just last year on this site with simpler questions than those, BTW.
We are at war. That is the unfortunate truth. In war there is a winner and a loser, there are no ties. My complaint about the conduct of the war in Iraq is that we are not aggressive enough. If one of the partisans is caught alive they should be brought immediately before the Military Court and sentenced to death. The sentence should be carried out immediately. (I would have them covered in pork lard just prior to shooting them to play on their superstitions). I would make pre-emptive strikes into Iran and Syria, as they are the supply sources.
It will be problematic for you to log into Sarge’s blog because he has no clickable “register” link. There is still a way you can do it, but to simplify things, just email me at info@akelasbiggins.com and I will forward you Sarge’s email address.
My take on Iraq as well as any of these war mongering muslim countries is you can not GIVE any one democracy if the di not desire to TAKE it!
Muslim on muslim wars and murders is nothing new, its as old as time itself. And democracy would prevent this as thier favorite past time.
Why is it in these muslim countries dictators are prefered? Why do they find it so easy to rise to power? Is it the sick mindset that says females are no better then cattle, or the sickness that says murdering anyone who disagrees with them is Gods will?
You can not fight a “war” with the preverted mind set we are seeing in these people. It’s time we take the gloves off, dump the Geneva convention and fight fire with fire, in the holy places, in the spider holes and tunnels and blow them all to h$ll
But even then, you will never force democracy on those who do not want it.
Sarge-when are you going to learn to at least tolerate people who disagree with you. It’s almost like you are saying this guy could not have been in the army if he disaggrees with you.
OOOOHHH so scary. You know sargewhining I’ve never seen where you posted your service. Maybe it’s time you came clean. At least Big45 has and can prove it.
I’d click on “just a username” unless of course you do want to start a blog. They’ll email you a password which you can use to log into Sarge’s blog. You can then post a comment for Sarge to review.
The simpler alternative is to just accept the fact that Sarge can’t stand for people to disagree with him and go on with your life instead of engaging him in a bizarre and pointless cyber-game of “who has the best credentials”. I’ll let you make that call.
It’s all about power, greed and selfishness. The only way to win this war is to retaliate via atomic means. Let’s get on with an all-out offensive strategy.
You know all this crap about defeating the Muslim extremists on their territory is just a bunch of crap. Most of them are too poor to ever make it over here. If we stay over there we will be fighting generations and generations eventually leading us to bankruptcy as a country. Kids over there are taught at a very early age to hate Jews and the USA passionately. They will keep on coming they don’t care.
People on the left like Jesse MacBeth have forced such questioning among honest folks. Its sad that its come to that but honest Vets, whether they’re on the left or right, will probably understand why such questions must be asked these days.
Dude
Thanks for the link, I tried to register at Sarge’s site and found that there wasn’t a link. Re time wasting - I feel it’s my responsiblity to respond and set the record straight - it will be real interesting to see if he acknowledges my service. And I’m retired and living in Mexico, so time is not really a problem.
And I hope all this works out like Vietnam Vet wants it to. I work with a few vets who feel the same way he does, and I have no reason whatsoever to question their service records. I’ll stay tuned and see what happens.
I listen to XM radio’s old time radio
I hear frequently that a radio show went on hiatus for x amount of time while the star went and served with the military; as well Ted Williams and others served their country, the country that made them so much money (figure how well they would do in Russia or Iran with their skills at degrading the government; can you say solitary confinement for 3 days while they assemble the firing squad?).
I think Israel has a great idea: all are required to serve in the military. This does not mean all go to war. (I don’t know how they do it in Israel, sorry) It would mean all would somehow support the soldiers, if they are not soldiers. This could be in entertainment (visiting the troops overseas and here in the US), spending time in the US helping the families of those who are currently overseas or who have died; I’m sure there are alot of support jobs even idiots like entertainers, rappers, hip hop artists can do. As well, those on welfare should be enlisted as well; If I can work full time, even though I am physically disabled, those on welfare because of all the kids can work. We can set up child care facilities on-site. And can you imagine if we could harness the intelligence of the computer hackers, or the leadership abilities of the gang leaders? WOW!
This country cannot survive with only a few doing so much for so many.
Just my thoughts
Just came from the Anti Illegal Rally at City Hall. Saw Dan and Edd and Shelly Sekula. It was about 1% pro illegals, 50% anti illegals, 10% police, and 39% media.
And of course the media was interviewing the 1%.
Could have used a better turnout. Maybe 200 people.
Does the fact that I served make me more credible when I support our involvement in Iraq? NO IT DOES NOT. Does anyones service or lack there of make them more or less credible? NO IT DOES NOT!
What makes me laugh now is how many people thought that Clinton’s lack of service was no big deal that now insist that lack of service should disqualify Bush.
I don’t know how this guy (a Christian singer) can make a comparison to black suffrage in America, and our current war against muslim agression….. And twist it into America being the bad guy in the middle east….?
Once liberty is surrendered for submission, a host of serious consequences present themselves. The individual becomes little more than a passive obedient vessel of Allah and his perspective of himself and life is drastically changes. Once he submits to the all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-alls, then he is absolved of the responsibility of having to chart his own way in life.
This was posted earlier,but bears repeatingfor newer posters here.
The Biggest Bang—Which brings us to our final possibility, which can be carried out as the last action short of open war. This would involve setting off a low-yield nuclear warhead 50,000 feet over Tehran. At that altitude, a bomb of precise power would break every window in the city, blind a few unfortunates, but kill no one. This may seem a drastic proposal, but in a climate where even gentle souls like Michael Coren are suggesting far worse, ‘drastic’ is a matter of debate.
A 90-year old man said to his doctor, “I’ve never felt better… I have an 18-year old bride who is pregnant with my child. What do you think of that?”
The doctor replied, “I have an elderly friend who is a hunter and never misses a season. One day he was in a hurry and picked up his umbrella instead of his rifle by mistake. When he got to the creek, he saw a beaver. He raised his umbrella and went “bang, bang, bang”, and the beaver fell dead. What do you think of that?”
The 90-year old man said, “I’d say somebody else shot the beaver.”
Sister Mary, who worked for a home health agency, was out making
her rounds visiting homebound patients when she ran out of gas. As luck
would have it, a gas station was just a block away.
She walked to the station to borrow a gas can and buy some gas.
The attendant told her that the only gas can he owned had been loaned
out, but she could wait until it was returned.
Since the nun was on the way to see a patient, she decided not to
wait and walked back to her car. She looked for something in her car
that she could fill with gas and spotted the bedpan she was taking to
the patient.
Always resourceful, she carried the bedpan to the station, filled
it with gas, and carried the full bedpan back to her car.
As she was pouring the gas into her tank, two men watched from a bar
across the street. One of the them turned to the other and said, “If it
starts, I’m turning Catholic.”
Getting to know what motivates your enemy is not some “warm and fuzzy thing” to do. It is a pretty good idea to understand everything you can how the other guy thinks, fights, walks, runs, defends, or urinates for that matter.
Dismissing the other guy as a lunatic, savage, fanatic, or any of the other descriptors that propaganda machines churn-out, will put you at a disadvantage.
I don’t know “where”, but then again I don’t have to know. I am mystified how fighting in Iraq will eliminate terrorism, when it could come from so many other sources (countries).
I am sure our current exploits in Iraq have done little to give the various factions and state sponsors any sleepless nights.
Once again, I do not disagree with the goals. I disagree with the idiots running things.
After all, slicing the heads off of living human innocents and netcasting it could hardly be characterized as the action of a lunatic, savage or fanatic.
Agree or disagree if our efforts in Iraq are doing anygood. I happen to think it is helping and that we should continue to support the newly elected Iraqi government until they are ready to take over. To walk away now would be a disaster.
One thing is clear, the incidents of terrorist acts outside the Iraqi and Afgan theaters has diminished greatly and dispite the call of Osama and other terrorist leaders to take the fight to America, no attack on the U.S. has been successful since 9/11/01.
How could we possibly have been such misguided ’sheep’ to think or feel such atrocities originated from any source but those that were abused as children and likely just need a big ole HUG?
(ooooooooops now I must race to the ER to get my cheek stitched up where my tongue just went through it)
One (c)rap artist shoots another in the cabeza during a “rap battle”. The shooter was “… serving eight years probation at the time of the shooting on drug and deadly conduct charges.” Methinks he violated his probation.
A man owned a small ranch in New Mexico. The New Mexico Wage & Hour Dept. claimed he was not paying proper wages to his help and sent an agent out to interview him. “I need a list of your employees and how much you pay them,” demanded the
agent. “Well,” replied the rancher, “There’s my ranch hand who’s been with me For 3 years. I pay him $600 a week plus free room and board. The cook has been here for 18 months, and I pay her $500 per week plus free room and board. Then there’s the half-wit who works about 18 hours every day and does about 90% of all the work around here.
He makes about $10 per week, pays his own room
and board and I buy him a bottle of bourbon every Saturday night.” “That’s the guy I want to talk to, the half-wit,”says the agent. “That would be me,” replied the rancher.
#04 Dugger
You can take comfort in the knowledge that There is no need for AlQaida to set up shops in this country , we are doing terrorism nicely on our own. recent massacre in school on a weekly basis by somebody who does not wear a turban and does not shout ‘God is great’ is terrorism in my book.
God is Great , indeed. If he is so great why He never does anything to save innocent people from massacre by these lunatics?
A man owned a small ranch in New Mexico. The New Mexico Wage & Hour Dept. claimed he was not paying proper wages to his help and sent an agent out to interview him. “I need a list of your employees and how much you pay them,” demanded the agent.
“Well,” replied the rancher, “There’s my ranch hand who’s been with me For 3 years. I pay him $600 a week plus free room and board. The cook has been here for 18 months, and I pay her $500 per week plus free room and board. Then there’s the half wit who works about 18 hours every day and does about 90% of all the work around here. He makes about $10 per week, pays his own room and board and I buy him a bottle of bourbon every Saturday night.” “That’s the guy I want to talk to, the half wit,”says the agent. “That would be me,” replied the rancher.
#10 Vietnam Vet
Iraq will ultimately take down Bush presidency. A far cry from his predecessor ’s
2 terms which are correctly described as 8 golden years by historians, this administration will go to the end of the world to deny that they have been wrong.
I had the opportunity to use the high speed connection at Capitalist Corner over lunch today, and along with a couple posts I read in other blogs this morning, I have become amazed at the number of Liberal commenters, bloggers, and Journalists who seem not to know the difference between an email and an Instant Message. One wonders how they are able to navigate the blogosphere.
They are liars, of course.
In one instance, one commenter noted that 4 or 5 news organizations had the same emails that Hastert and the Clerk’s office had where Mark Foley asked about the well being of a former page and asked fo “a pic”, and came to the same conclusions that they did that there wasn’t enough in that mail to warrant further investigation or exposure, but the Liberal he was “debating” shot back that since one of those news organizations was Fox news, this was obvious evidence of a media coverup.
When it was mentioned that the FBI saw those same emails, and said that there wasn’t enough there to investigate, the Liberal responded that this was because Alberto Gonzalez was involved in the cover up, too.
He is a liar, of course.
He doesn’t really belive such preposterous notions…no sane or fair person would. He just wants to perpetuate anything that looks, sounds or smells like a Republican coverup…and make sure that the paint he is spreading with such a broad brush dosen’t drip onto the trousers of any Democrats.
This, of course is done not only to affect the elections, which is the primary purpose of the rhetoric. But a second, perhaps more sinsiter motivation exists as well.
The real evidecne that Mark Foley had committed a criminal act were contained in Instant Messages, not the emails that Hastert, the FBI, and those news organizations saw. Some of them three years old, and more are coming. IMs are not like emails…you have to copy and paste them into another permanent file. What this means is that SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE, committed a Federal Crime: Obstruction of Justice, because they obviously had thjose IMs and could link them to Foley and did not alert the Federal, Local, or State Law Enforcement Agencies, or even the Republican Leadership that everybody is blaming for not knowing about them.
Perhaps it not much of a coincidence that this is, essentially, the crime that Bill Clinton was inpeached for, and to which he later pled guilty to in a plea bargain. Clinton admitted to lying to a Federal Grand Jury, and he was forgiven by the Democrats because he Obstructed Justice by giving false testimony, essentially, for political purposes.
The person, or persons who failed to give those incriminating Instant Messages to the proper Authorities committed Obstructed Justice for political purposes as well, and judging by the rhetoric, Democrats don’t care one whit that Obstruction of Justice was commited–they onoy care that they can benefit from it–and from NOT exposing those who had this evidence. Because if those people who held it are exposed, so will thier motives for keeping them secret until the best political time will be as well.
It doesn’t matter whether the person or persons who had these incriminating Instant Messages is a Republican or Democrat, Male of Female, Black or White, Straight or Gay. He or they witheld evidence of an ongoing crime that victimized young men, and did it for selfish reasons.
But Democrats and Liberals don’t seem to care to make that an issue.
The other thing I find very
Interesting
is that many of these Liberals and Democrats are saying that, because Republican lawmakers knew that Foley was Gay, they should have limited his contact with the Pages.
That IS one important thing to note. From my reading, most of Washington knew that Foley was Gay, but chose to “stay in the closet.” This is waht is meant when they say he was “odd” or “flaky.” I don’t think that being gay equals being a pedophile, and the ironic thing is that Gay Activists on the left have gone to great lengths to make that point.
And sarge avoids direct questions while spewing the same ole nonsense Republicans good Liberals bad. Our guy is a pedophile, but but those guys are worse.
Keep it coming sarge, we appreciate the entertainment.
Note to self- stop reading sarges posts like everybody else and you will have more fun on
this blog.
#94
No, Term Limits has already done that, unless your one of those who think he should be impeached.
Smacky;
Yesterday you said I had no reagrd for Human Life
Then you said I “celebrated the deaths of Iraqis”
Now you ask a question which I have answered…to you…before, and on several other occasions as well. I’ve psted it in several, more permanent places as well.
You either can’t read, can’t comprehend what you’ve read, can’t retain anything that you read, have a memory that is like Swiss Cheese, or you’re just trying to make me look bad because I’m very effective at countering all of your weak, shop worn, Liberal arguments.
DowJones25K, #7, need to make a slight correction. The ONLY reason the Japanese surrendered was because the Emporer ordered the surrender. They were all quite prepared to keep fighting and dying. The Japanese initially thought the Emperor’s proclamation meant they had won the war, because they could fathom no other ending, even after the bombing they had already endured.
Five million German soldiers surrendered to the Allies in Europe. In the Pacific, less than 5% of Japanese forces surrendered. They considered it a disgrace to their families, and instead fought to the death.
That being said, the Muslims, as shown by the Israelis, really can’t stand a severe butt whooping. If we inflict enough pain on them, they’ll quit, and their governments will see to it that they don’t become a problem again….at least for a while. Perhaps we are forestalling the inevitable. Perhaps it will take a nuclear explosion on our soil to make us annihilate them, or sufficiently kill enough of them to make them forever forsake the sword. What I do know right now is what Captain Walker said this morning talking to Edd. It’s a battle worth fighting the way we are fighting it now. I’ll take the experienced opinion of somebody who’s been there several times.
Whatever happened to the HPD dispatch controvery and police comments/ideas that were submitted?
Look under “top links” to the rihht and above.
oops right
Thought for the day:
“Which caused more muslims to want to be terrorists? 1) America’s put-your tail-between -your legs and run in Somolia or 2) the current war in Iraq? I say the former. Can’t prove it, but the cut and run showed the muslims America has no backbone. Me thinks the terrorists and insurgents still alive today might have a slightly different opinion .I And if there are more of them today, that’s a good thing because that means there are more of them to kill.
Oh, by the way, Has Anybody Here Seen My Old Friend Osama?, Omar, Al Zawahari etc.?
I’m sure if America wouldn’t direspect the muslims they would love us and accept us instead of chopping off innocents’ heads or blowing up innocent people just so they could get at those 42 ugly virgins.
Cheezy said he wasn’t going to post again, #208 yesterday, then proceeded to post #210. Talk about spin. As Arnold once said, he’ll be back.
Dugger,
I suggest that you do a little more reading about the history of the Middle-East if you want to truly understand the “why” and reasons we are not well liked today in the Middle-East.
It probably doesn’t matter. The die is cast and I do not believe anything we can do will change the average middle-eastern “man-in-the-street’s perception of us.
Barring total genocide, I do not believe that there is any short term military solution to the issue.
Containing terrorism or fighting terrorism in Iraq is pretty absurd. Not surprisingly most of the American people are coming to this opinion also. Regrettably, GWB, Cheny, and Rummy will still be standing at the station when the train leaves.
Before you start flaming me, understand this. I am not a dreamy-eyed liberal pacifist. Unlike GWB, Cheny, and Rummy, I have actually seen war up close and personal. I know that we have a clash of cultures going on today and the stakes are high. My problem is simple. Our leaders are not fighting smart or correctly. They are fighting like they have never fought a war before, which it turns out is the case.
I do not know why we put them in charge.
Simple
simple what i think i heard here is they arent doing it right.
i would like to know what is right.
i agree they have made mistakes and big ones in carrying out this war.
for some reason the terror has progressed thru the years to bigger and better terror. in the beginning we kinda did nothing but say it was a police issue. now we are at war in a strange country.
i do not know the answer - but i do know japan surrendered after we beat them on the battlefield (meaning the bomb). also, germany was bombed into anniliation. niether country has been a problem in the world recently.
we need a solution.
SimpleSimon,I agree wholeheartedly with most of your assessments . I for one feel that the class of religeons, not the class of cultures, is what’s going to ultimately set the big one off.
However to blame the U.S. is not totally accurate since it usually takes two side to create a conflict and how far back in history does one need to go to justify his side is right and the other side is the bad guy? I just think we are starting at two different points in time (History) if you think the U.S. is entirely to blame for the mess we have today in the Middle East.
P.S. Thanks for not telling me to “Drink the Cool-aid” one of Bill O’Reilly’s favorite lines lately usurped by someone else who breifly wrote on this blog.
#6 Simple
I agree with much of what you say but I would add that there is also no chance of a diplomatic solution. We tried that when we abandoned the Shah in the 70s, when Reagan left Lebanon in the ’80s and when we pulled our military out of Saudi Arabia. All this did was embolden an irrational enemy. Unfortunately, I think the only solution will end up being a defeat so complete that the islamic fascists will completely lose the will to fight, much like it took with the Japanese in 1945.
One thing I disagree with in your post is the suggestion that only people who have served in the military are capable of prosecuting a war. History is filled with contradictions to that position.
Re Post 6
Simple,
I couldn’t have put it into words as well as you did, but you express my exact sentiments.
We’re being led by warmongers that have never been to war and they refuse to admit that going to war in Iraq was a huge mistake. They took their focus off of Osama to persue a different agenda and look where we are now.
To All,
Can’t you just feel the love? Can we have group hug?
Seriously, I believe that we are not preparing for the inevitable conflict to come. I really don’t care if the reason is religon or culture, when you get down to the SIMPLE facts, it will be us or them.
We are far too dependent upon foreign oil today to kick sand in anyone’s face. This is where we need to start the fight be getting ready.
Simple
John 16
1″All this I have told you so that you will not go astray.2They will put you out of the synagogue;in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God.3They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. 4I have told you this,so that when the time comes you will remember that I warned you. I did not tell you this at first because I was with you.
#10……….1st things 1st…WELCOME HOME and THANK YOU!
I gotta ask…..given the current position our armed forces find themselves in RIGHT NOW……….what are your thoughts on a viable course of action from here?
I am NOT trying to create controversy (although most ANY blog post will do just that)…….I truly am seeking your opinion…………
Simple, I can agree with the your reasoning about why we are hated, but to say that “Containing terrorism or fighting terrorism in Iraq is pretty absurd” is pretty absurd. Currently, we are drawing those who would kill us into a fight in Iraq instead of a fight in America. Many of the groups that hate us the most are being forced to plan operation in Iraq in addition to anything else they might want to do.
Neocon, re last nights post. If I dont buy GWB war plans that doesnt make me a Liberal. C’mon. I do understand the big picture. Install Democracy in that region and walahh, peace and prosperity with Dominoes home delivery, no time for jihad.Happy little Arabs and Muzlims playing baseball at the parks. Sounds great!
There is one little problemo. The strategery isnt working and the situation on the ground is deteriating rapido. So, do you blindly trust GWB and Rummy who by all acounts misjudged this war or do you seek some other solutions?
Last night on Larry King he had Woodward on to throw softballs to. King asked Woodward what he thinks will happen and Wood said something like ” I think the time is coming where GWB will call in the Dems and other leaders and have an all nighter and figure out what to do in a bi partisan way to get us out of Iraq without looking like Somalia. Its clear the present course is not working.”
That to me sounds like a start. Big picture and goals are great if the plan is sound and its working. Kinda like a football team down 40 points in the 4th quarter and they are running the ball.If I say they should throw the ball that doesnt make me anti-football or I hate the coach.
Carryover from last night:
Short answer (for me anyway) is yes. That is an example of dark humor.
Moose,
We are wearing down our resourses for very little gain. They seem to have a limitless supply of fighters and can fight on a shoestring budget.
We are spending billions each month. The point of war is to attrite the enemy until he can no longer fight. Do you see that happening?
It is much better to fight on ground favorable to you than the enemy.
Simple
Cheesey
Last night on Larry King he had Woodward on to throw softballs to. King asked Woodward what he thinks will happen and Wood said something like ” I think the time is coming where GWB will call in the Dems and other leaders and have an all nighter and figure out what to do in a bi partisan way to get us out of Iraq without looking like Somalia. Its clear the present course is not working.”
This would be the most disasterousthing Bush could do. Bush needs to lean on the Pentagon to come up with a new strategy.
Katfish
Thanks for your comments. I’ve got a daughter and grandson in the military and I wish to God I had the answer to “where do we go from here”.
The one thing I am very sure of is that Bush and Rummy don’t have a solution and all they are doing is dividing our great country into “us versus them”
Stay the course is not a solution, it’s just a campaign slogan!
And God help us if Henry Kissenger is really advising Bush on the conduct of the war. He’s still pissed about Nixon not taking his advice about Viet Nam. Talk about real chickenhawks, Henry, George and Donald are poster children.
Simple, I disagree. We are killing many more of the enemy then they are killing of us. The enemy has had to revise their plan because their old tactics stopped working as well. They have not had the resources to push at us in the conflict, they are still reacting to our presence for the most part. There has been very little organization on their part on a large scale. Yes we need to revise our plan. Yes we have made mistakes. However, I think if we finish what we started in Iraq, we will see big payoffs in the future.
Last post should have said Kissenger was and is still pissed that Johnson and Nixon ignored some of his advice. Henry is an egomaniac of the first order.
The fake veterans and Liberal ones are coming out of the woodwork all over the blogosphere now that the election is coming up fast. Have you noticed all the new posters who have the same message?
The nutroots is highly organized and is unified. They appear on this and other blogs with posts along these themes:
1. “I’m really a Conservative, but I’m disgusted so I’m staying home.”
That’s so that they can convince conservatives to stay home, while they show up in droves. All that proves is that conservatives are the key to winning elections, whether they go to the polls or stay home.
Thanks for proving the point that Liberals can’t win unless Conservatives stay home, BTW.
2. I’m the Reasoned voice of Moderation while anybody who disagrees with me is an irrational partisan.
This is called limiting the debate and maringalizing your opponent.
We don’t need a “daddy” to tell us we’re wrong or to wave a sanctimoin ious finger at us for imagined trangressions of rhetoric. We need people who will present a solution at the same time they show us a problem. This will actually give us something to debate and discuss. Everything else is just finger pointing, but presentied in a Rational, Moderate way that makes it look like something else.
3. I’m a Veteran and I know this war is wrong.
Viet Vet and Simple simon:
What was your MOS and where did you serve? What unit were you with there? Who was commanding Officer? (And don’t give me the “It was so long ago I can’t remember line. EVERYBODY remembers thier CO.)
What years did you serve and where did you do your Basic Training and AIT?
Sorry for the questions, but when the IVAW put a microphone in Jesse MacBeth’s hand, it made those questions necessary. It also spawned people who created web based sources for checking military credentials. Be advised, you’ll definetly be outed if you’re making a false claim of service, Better just to fade away than try to continue the subterfuge.
If your genuine, you’ll understand why these questions need be asked, and willl graciously accept the apology already given.
4. Fighting terrorism in countries in the Middle East is absurd. That’s why Iraq is a mistake.
But they won’t tell you where we should be fighting them, or how…nor will they give you any solutions.
If I’m going to kill ants, I go to the ant bed, I don’t stand by the kitchen door and hit them one at a time.
Our presence in Iraq bore fruit last fall when Iranian airplanes tried to resupply Hezbollah and were denied the rights to fly through Iraqi airspace and the Turks told them the only way they could tranist that country was to land and be inspected. Anybody who thinks that the guy who paid $25,000 to every Palestinian family who had a sone that blew himself up in a crowed shopping center in Isreal (that would be Saddam Hussein for those of you who have bought into the notion that he did not present a “terror threat” before the war) wouldn’t have allowed not only airplanes, but trains and truck full of military hardware and reenforcements for the Iranian troops and Hezbollah in Lebanon is a dangerous fool.
The cetner of the Middle East is Iraq. It occupies the heart of the region, and thus controls it. it is the most important theater in the Global War on Terror…and not b/c GWB says so. It’s because Osama bin Laden and Ayma al Zawahiri have said so. When you and your enemy both agree on where the most important battle field is, the one who doesn’t occupy that ground is losing.
5. We are not well liked in the Middle East, that’s the crux of the bisquit.
Which is crap. This is to get you to think that all we need to do is get them to like us and we can all put on our hemp ponchos and go down by the river to sip herbal tea together. War is not the answer, only Love can Conquer Hate. C’mon Brother now, let’s try to live together…..yadda, yadda, yadda….
Hasn’t worked before…lets try doing something else…like fight a war in thier own frikken back yard so that THEY pay the price for terrorism.
Caring about whether our enemy likes or not is dangerous. Trying to figure out whether or not it’s our fault is dangerous, because we did not attack them, they attacked us…which means we are right and they are wrong. They attacked us and want us to die, and it’s because they fold their religion into their politics, and their religion says that they are superior to everybody else who does not beleive. It’s real easy not to like everybody that way. If your core belief is that everybody who doesn’t beleive as you do should pay a tax just so they can continue to live on earth, you’re not going to like them.
Our being in Iraq is not the reason the reason the Muslims are fighting…
Nor was our support for the Shah - who by the way tried to modernize his country and educate women….
Nor was Somalia a factor….
…or any other event in the last 100 or so years.
Muslims were killing Christian in the Middle Ages - which was one of the reasons the Crusades were fought.
They STILL want to kill Christians (or anyone else who is not Muslim) so any argument that begins with “We should not have”; or “We should not be”; or “If we only”; is entirely beside the point!
I think GWB has sat down with the dems to discuss many matters, including education and the war. That may be part of the reason for the PC process continuing.
The only way to win the war on terror is to go back to the military thinking of WW1 and 2: bomb civilians. Collateral damage is inevitable. How many civilians have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq over the past 4 years? and how many would have been killed if we had dropped a bomb in (I believe OBL was in) Kandahar when he was there, and in Sadr City and other areas of Iraq where we knew the insurgents were gathering. And that is exactly what we need to do in North Korea and Iran. The US has plenty of oil; what we need to do is go against the tree huggers and build oil refineries and nuclear reactors for energy. If you do not think nuclear energy is safe, have you heard of any sailors aboard the nuclear subs getting radiation poisoning? Has there ever been a major problem aboard one?
Just my thoughts
flygal
So much for the warm fuzzies. As far as I’m concerned, anyone who uses the “chickenhawk” argument loses all credibility in the debate.
While I don’t have the solution to the terrorist problem (other than we need to kill them before they kill us) I could really care less why we are not well liked in the Middle East. Hell, we are not well liked anywhere and I think much of it is pure jealousy. Nothwitstanding, just because someone doesn’t like you doesn’t give them any justification for killing you. There are some people that I don’t like, but I don’t go around killing them.
My letter to the President this morning.
No wonder we get frustrated. When all we can do is write letters, call our Rinos, and vote for Kinky goofballs. I want to slap some of these people and tell them to shut down the border and stand up to the PC crowd. I am tired of being the one who is offended.
To WhiteHouse.gov,
Why is there even a bill on internet gaming in the system right now? Is the border shut down? Have illegal aliens stopped killing police officers? Have school principals stopped banning the mention of Christmas? Have insane people stopped walking into schools to kill students?
I am glad that the President has his priorities straight. Wouldn’t want to have someone sit at their computer and play cards.
I voted for President Bush, 41, and have voted in Republican primaries and generals ever since.
This time I am voting for Kinky Friedman for Texas Governor.
Why, because Governor Perry has not controlled the border and he has raised taxes.
Imagine all the less passionate Republican voters who will just stay home this November.
Keep it up and we will lose the entire Legislative Branch.
sarge good post.
sometimes we just should not fight a politically correct war. be as careful as possible but win the fight - thats what the terrorists are doing - trying to win the war polilically correct be dammed as far as they are concerned.
Dow
This “Politically correct War” crap is just that.
The only tactic we are not using that folks who claim that tell me we are not jusing that we should be is invading syria and Iran. That and we didn’t descerate a graveyard in one attack.
We kill our enemies everyday, and we use every means at our disposal to do it. We don’t carpetr bomb citiers anymore, because we have the technology to pick our targets precisely. This is not to limit casualties, it is to conserve resoursces. We search mosques and we attack them when we know there are bad guys in there.
We also build roads, schools, and repair infrastructure. I really can’t see a good reason why we shouldn’t. We need to show the fence sitters over there that we are the best friend or the worst enemy those folks have. One without the other is ineffective.
Post 22 - Sargevining
Give me your e-mail address or phone number and I will be glad to detail my military service complete with dates of service in RVN.
Swiftboating might have worked in the past, but not with me.
Viet Vet,
It is amazing that you and my husband, a combat Viet Nam Veteran 69-70, 11th Cavalry, are so diametrically opposed in their thinking. The only mistake that is being made in Iraq is that we are being too nice to the bad guys. Noone wants innocent civilians caught up in the crossfire, but in war things happen that you would like to avoid but can’t. If we stopped worrying about whether or not the terrorists were in a mosque, whether it was a religious holiday, et. al. and were just simply tough and prepared to get the job done maybe the muslims would think twice about the superiority complex of “you’re either muslim or dead”. And if the civilians are allowing the terrorists to live in their midst, storing their weapons in their homes, then they are complicit in their actions and should not be considered collateral damage.
Simple,
Surely you are not suggesting that you would rather fight the terrorists here than there are you? The only good that would come of that is that it would wake up the millions of peaceniks to the real world.
There was a colonel or general on the news recently (can’t remember the exact rank, nor the name) that put into words the frustration that I am sure that many in the military feel right now:
The American military is at war, while America is at the mall.
It’s time that all of us started accepting whatever sacrifices need to be made in order to win this war. Whatever happened to the unity and self-sacrifice that helped us win WWII?
And it’s been my experience, Hammie, that those who make the “chickehawk” argument ar those who never served. Those of us who have know that we don’t hold any special knowledge or are an “better” than anybody else. This from Mil Blogs, talking about Jackipoos Murtha explains it best for me:
http://www.mudvillegazette.com/milblogs/2006/06/17/#005727
And I agree with the Commander, any Veteran who uses the “chickenhawk” argument is using his service to be a bully.
#30
clikc on my name, it will take me to my blog. Register and post a comment anywhere. The comments are Moderated so I will catch it b4 it posts and it won’t become public…unless we catch something that points obviously to something incredibly wrong. You are advised that you will be publicly outed if your claim to service is false. If you have trouble registering, somebody here will be glad to help you out.
We outed a guy just last year on this site with simpler questions than those, BTW.
We are at war. That is the unfortunate truth. In war there is a winner and a loser, there are no ties. My complaint about the conduct of the war in Iraq is that we are not aggressive enough. If one of the partisans is caught alive they should be brought immediately before the Military Court and sentenced to death. The sentence should be carried out immediately. (I would have them covered in pork lard just prior to shooting them to play on their superstitions). I would make pre-emptive strikes into Iran and Syria, as they are the supply sources.
Y’all are lucky I’m not in charge.
Got to run into Houston today kiddies. Back inna bit.
dcgirl:
A generation of “leaders” like John Kerry pi$$ed it away.
#30 Vietnam Vet,
It will be problematic for you to log into Sarge’s blog because he has no clickable “register” link. There is still a way you can do it, but to simplify things, just email me at info@akelasbiggins.com and I will forward you Sarge’s email address.
My take on Iraq as well as any of these war mongering muslim countries is you can not GIVE any one democracy if the di not desire to TAKE it!
Muslim on muslim wars and murders is nothing new, its as old as time itself. And democracy would prevent this as thier favorite past time.
Why is it in these muslim countries dictators are prefered? Why do they find it so easy to rise to power? Is it the sick mindset that says females are no better then cattle, or the sickness that says murdering anyone who disagrees with them is Gods will?
You can not fight a “war” with the preverted mind set we are seeing in these people. It’s time we take the gloves off, dump the Geneva convention and fight fire with fire, in the holy places, in the spider holes and tunnels and blow them all to h$ll
But even then, you will never force democracy on those who do not want it.
Dude, I wouldn’t give him sarge’s email address unless sarge oks it.
Post 33
Will do as you suggest and I also expect you to post the results of your research on this site.
Don’t post my personal details, just acknowledge that fact that I am the real deal and your comments questioning the my service were in error.
Fair enough Hamous. Give me a minute and I’ll go through the registration rigamarole and post the link…
Sarge-when are you going to learn to at least tolerate people who disagree with you. It’s almost like you are saying this guy could not have been in the army if he disaggrees with you.
#33 sarge
OOOOHHH so scary. You know sargewhining I’ve never seen where you posted your service. Maybe it’s time you came clean. At least Big45 has and can prove it.
OK Vietnam Vet, go here:
http://wordpress.com/signup/
and fill out the information, yada yada.
I’d click on “just a username” unless of course you do want to start a blog. They’ll email you a password which you can use to log into Sarge’s blog. You can then post a comment for Sarge to review.
The simpler alternative is to just accept the fact that Sarge can’t stand for people to disagree with him and go on with your life instead of engaging him in a bizarre and pointless cyber-game of “who has the best credentials”. I’ll let you make that call.
It’s all about power, greed and selfishness. The only way to win this war is to retaliate via atomic means. Let’s get on with an all-out offensive strategy.
Oh, fiddle - stop picking on Sarge! I like him.
As to “We’re not well-liked in the Middle East” - we never will be. Unless you want to convert to Islam & adopt sharia law!
I suggest reading the Koran. Start with the 9th Sura.
Know thy enemy.
You know all this crap about defeating the Muslim extremists on their territory is just a bunch of crap. Most of them are too poor to ever make it over here. If we stay over there we will be fighting generations and generations eventually leading us to bankruptcy as a country. Kids over there are taught at a very early age to hate Jews and the USA passionately. They will keep on coming they don’t care.
#42 yellowdog
People on the left like Jesse MacBeth have forced such questioning among honest folks. Its sad that its come to that but honest Vets, whether they’re on the left or right, will probably understand why such questions must be asked these days.
Dude
Thanks for the link, I tried to register at Sarge’s site and found that there wasn’t a link. Re time wasting - I feel it’s my responsiblity to respond and set the record straight - it will be real interesting to see if he acknowledges my service. And I’m retired and living in Mexico, so time is not really a problem.
OK about Jesse MacBeth and all, but has anybody seen where sarge has posted his service?
I like the old guy too. I admire his gumption.
And I hope all this works out like Vietnam Vet wants it to. I work with a few vets who feel the same way he does, and I have no reason whatsoever to question their service records. I’ll stay tuned and see what happens.
Geez - Dead horses abound today. I’ll tune in later, to see if anything new has cropped up.
#46………you reminded me of one of the BEST newspaper comic strips ever…..namely ‘POGO’
“we have met the enemy………and he is US!”
#47………..Smackie g’mornin……..
“Most of them are too poor to ever make it over here.”
KEYWORD: *most*
How many of those that aint ‘most’ will it take to finally wake us Americans up is my question……….
*NEVER FORGET!*
I listen to XM radio’s old time radio
I hear frequently that a radio show went on hiatus for x amount of time while the star went and served with the military; as well Ted Williams and others served their country, the country that made them so much money (figure how well they would do in Russia or Iran with their skills at degrading the government; can you say solitary confinement for 3 days while they assemble the firing squad?).
I think Israel has a great idea: all are required to serve in the military. This does not mean all go to war. (I don’t know how they do it in Israel, sorry) It would mean all would somehow support the soldiers, if they are not soldiers. This could be in entertainment (visiting the troops overseas and here in the US), spending time in the US helping the families of those who are currently overseas or who have died; I’m sure there are alot of support jobs even idiots like entertainers, rappers, hip hop artists can do. As well, those on welfare should be enlisted as well; If I can work full time, even though I am physically disabled, those on welfare because of all the kids can work. We can set up child care facilities on-site. And can you imagine if we could harness the intelligence of the computer hackers, or the leadership abilities of the gang leaders? WOW!
This country cannot survive with only a few doing so much for so many.
Just my thoughts
flygal
#55………….flygal I believe that Switzerland requires mandatory service of it’s citizens as well if memory serves……..and it’s a GOOD IDEA!
#52 jimb
Is there such a thing as a “new” dead horse?
Well of course there is… and the answer is yes.
I’d rather have a dead horse than a Silky Pony.
Squawk It ate my last post…again.
It will be interetsuing to see where this all falls out as the facts get sorted out.
“Rice-Tenet meeting cited in book confirmed”
“Secretary of state said she did not recall CIA briefing 2 months before 9/11″
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15116366/
Just came from the Anti Illegal Rally at City Hall. Saw Dan and Edd and Shelly Sekula. It was about 1% pro illegals, 50% anti illegals, 10% police, and 39% media.
And of course the media was interviewing the 1%.
Could have used a better turnout. Maybe 200 people.
Marc
RE: Your post
There ain’t nothing in the cyber spit bucket. Sorry can’t help you. Don’t know what happened to the post.
Squawk
Moderator
Over worked underpaid handyman
and of course
All round nice guy.
#52
JIIIIIIIIM!!!
same dead horse, we just keep kicking it!
I served also. 1970-1977.
Does the fact that I served make me more credible when I support our involvement in Iraq? NO IT DOES NOT. Does anyones service or lack there of make them more or less credible? NO IT DOES NOT!
What makes me laugh now is how many people thought that Clinton’s lack of service was no big deal that now insist that lack of service should disqualify Bush.
I don’t know how this guy (a Christian singer) can make a comparison to black suffrage in America, and our current war against muslim agression….. And twist it into America being the bad guy in the middle east….?
http://readshlog.blogspot.com/
#62…………….hey THANKS for going and we wish we could’ve joined in……….(no shock who was getting all the face time from the media)
“lack of service should disqualify Bush”
He flew fighter planes, they don’t let just anyone do that.
An ex-Iranian on Islam:
Once liberty is surrendered for submission, a host of serious consequences present themselves. The individual becomes little more than a passive obedient vessel of Allah and his perspective of himself and life is drastically changes. Once he submits to the all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-alls, then he is absolved of the responsibility of having to chart his own way in life.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5912
Worked this time!
Sally! Welcome back!
This was posted earlier,but bears repeatingfor newer posters here.
The Biggest Bang—Which brings us to our final possibility, which can be carried out as the last action short of open war. This would involve setting off a low-yield nuclear warhead 50,000 feet over Tehran. At that altitude, a bomb of precise power would break every window in the city, blind a few unfortunates, but kill no one. This may seem a drastic proposal, but in a climate where even gentle souls like Michael Coren are suggesting far worse, ‘drastic’ is a matter of debate.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5831
This would also take down their power grid and most likely burn out th motors in those pesky centrifuges.
Michael Coren’s article.
http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Coren_Michael/2006/09/02/1795183.html
Time for a funny break:
#72…………………I like it!
no substitute for the “Shock & Awe” factor!!!
#74………….BwaaaaaaaahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Here is a funny.
CATHOLIC GASOLINE
Sister Mary, who worked for a home health agency, was out making
her rounds visiting homebound patients when she ran out of gas. As luck
would have it, a gas station was just a block away.
She walked to the station to borrow a gas can and buy some gas.
The attendant told her that the only gas can he owned had been loaned
out, but she could wait until it was returned.
Since the nun was on the way to see a patient, she decided not to
wait and walked back to her car. She looked for something in her car
that she could fill with gas and spotted the bedpan she was taking to
the patient.
Always resourceful, she carried the bedpan to the station, filled
it with gas, and carried the full bedpan back to her car.
As she was pouring the gas into her tank, two men watched from a bar
across the street. One of the them turned to the other and said, “If it
starts, I’m turning Catholic.”
The heck with air bags…
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31 DC Girl,
No, what I am suggesting is that We pick the time and place to fight instead of being reactive.
Making the other guy expend his resources to get to the battle is a tactic also.
Simple
#79
And in your opinion, when would be the right time to fight the terrorist and what place would you think is best?
26 DC Girl,
Getting to know what motivates your enemy is not some “warm and fuzzy thing” to do. It is a pretty good idea to understand everything you can how the other guy thinks, fights, walks, runs, defends, or urinates for that matter.
Dismissing the other guy as a lunatic, savage, fanatic, or any of the other descriptors that propaganda machines churn-out, will put you at a disadvantage.
Simple
Hey the Tee-shirt girl is back!!
80,
I don’t know “where”, but then again I don’t have to know. I am mystified how fighting in Iraq will eliminate terrorism, when it could come from so many other sources (countries).
I am sure our current exploits in Iraq have done little to give the various factions and state sponsors any sleepless nights.
Once again, I do not disagree with the goals. I disagree with the idiots running things.
Simple
After all, slicing the heads off of living human innocents and netcasting it could hardly be characterized as the action of a lunatic, savage or fanatic.
#83
Agree or disagree if our efforts in Iraq are doing anygood. I happen to think it is helping and that we should continue to support the newly elected Iraqi government until they are ready to take over. To walk away now would be a disaster.
One thing is clear, the incidents of terrorist acts outside the Iraqi and Afgan theaters has diminished greatly and dispite the call of Osama and other terrorist leaders to take the fight to America, no attack on the U.S. has been successful since 9/11/01.
After all, a recruiting call for scientists to help with the manufacture of dirty bombs isn’t the action of a lunatic, savage or fanatic.
We need to find out where and how this guy urinates.
Anthing else is just propaganda.
#84 Shannon no KIDDING!
How could we possibly have been such misguided ’sheep’ to think or feel such atrocities originated from any source but those that were abused as children and likely just need a big ole HUG?
(ooooooooops now I must race to the ER to get my cheek stitched up where my tongue just went through it)
After all, torture and burning and displaying U.S. bodies should not be characterized as the work of a lunatic, savage or fanatic.
That’s mere propaganda.
One (c)rap artist shoots another in the cabeza during a “rap battle”. The shooter was “… serving eight years probation at the time of the shooting on drug and deadly conduct charges.” Methinks he violated his probation.
Simple - thank you.
After all, forcing religiuos conversions at gunpoint cannot should not be called the actions of fanatics.
That’s merely another “descriptor that [some] propaganda machines churn-out”.
Heaven forbid anyone calls a spade a spade.
Beam me up…..
A man owned a small ranch in New Mexico. The New Mexico Wage & Hour Dept. claimed he was not paying proper wages to his help and sent an agent out to interview him. “I need a list of your employees and how much you pay them,” demanded the
agent. “Well,” replied the rancher, “There’s my ranch hand who’s been with me For 3 years. I pay him $600 a week plus free room and board. The cook has been here for 18 months, and I pay her $500 per week plus free room and board. Then there’s the half-wit who works about 18 hours every day and does about 90% of all the work around here.
He makes about $10 per week, pays his own room
and board and I buy him a bottle of bourbon every Saturday night.” “That’s the guy I want to talk to, the half-wit,”says the agent. “That would be me,” replied the rancher.
#04 Dugger
You can take comfort in the knowledge that There is no need for AlQaida to set up shops in this country , we are doing terrorism nicely on our own. recent massacre in school on a weekly basis by somebody who does not wear a turban and does not shout ‘God is great’ is terrorism in my book.
God is Great , indeed. If he is so great why He never does anything to save innocent people from massacre by these lunatics?
A man owned a small ranch in New Mexico. The New Mexico Wage & Hour Dept. claimed he was not paying proper wages to his help and sent an agent out to interview him. “I need a list of your employees and how much you pay them,” demanded the agent.
“Well,” replied the rancher, “There’s my ranch hand who’s been with me For 3 years. I pay him $600 a week plus free room and board. The cook has been here for 18 months, and I pay her $500 per week plus free room and board. Then there’s the half wit who works about 18 hours every day and does about 90% of all the work around here. He makes about $10 per week, pays his own room and board and I buy him a bottle of bourbon every Saturday night.” “That’s the guy I want to talk to, the half wit,”says the agent. “That would be me,” replied the rancher.
//Thanks, Scotty. You beamed me up just in the nick of time.
Newsworthy item: “gun control” is alive and doing just fine in Houston:
If Chief Hurts can’t put enough officers on the street, Houstonians will have to do the job themselves.
#10 Vietnam Vet
Iraq will ultimately take down Bush presidency. A far cry from his predecessor ’s
2 terms which are correctly described as 8 golden years by historians, this administration will go to the end of the world to deny that they have been wrong.
Squawk this thing ate my clean joke!
Eight Golden (shower) years.
Apparently it doesn’t eat dirty ones.
Doesn’t eat Noodles either.
Well;
I had the opportunity to use the high speed connection at Capitalist Corner over lunch today, and along with a couple posts I read in other blogs this morning, I have become amazed at the number of Liberal commenters, bloggers, and Journalists who seem not to know the difference between an email and an Instant Message. One wonders how they are able to navigate the blogosphere.
They are liars, of course.
In one instance, one commenter noted that 4 or 5 news organizations had the same emails that Hastert and the Clerk’s office had where Mark Foley asked about the well being of a former page and asked fo “a pic”, and came to the same conclusions that they did that there wasn’t enough in that mail to warrant further investigation or exposure, but the Liberal he was “debating” shot back that since one of those news organizations was Fox news, this was obvious evidence of a media coverup.
When it was mentioned that the FBI saw those same emails, and said that there wasn’t enough there to investigate, the Liberal responded that this was because Alberto Gonzalez was involved in the cover up, too.
He is a liar, of course.
He doesn’t really belive such preposterous notions…no sane or fair person would. He just wants to perpetuate anything that looks, sounds or smells like a Republican coverup…and make sure that the paint he is spreading with such a broad brush dosen’t drip onto the trousers of any Democrats.
This, of course is done not only to affect the elections, which is the primary purpose of the rhetoric. But a second, perhaps more sinsiter motivation exists as well.
The real evidecne that Mark Foley had committed a criminal act were contained in Instant Messages, not the emails that Hastert, the FBI, and those news organizations saw. Some of them three years old, and more are coming. IMs are not like emails…you have to copy and paste them into another permanent file. What this means is that SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE, committed a Federal Crime: Obstruction of Justice, because they obviously had thjose IMs and could link them to Foley and did not alert the Federal, Local, or State Law Enforcement Agencies, or even the Republican Leadership that everybody is blaming for not knowing about them.
Perhaps it not much of a coincidence that this is, essentially, the crime that Bill Clinton was inpeached for, and to which he later pled guilty to in a plea bargain. Clinton admitted to lying to a Federal Grand Jury, and he was forgiven by the Democrats because he Obstructed Justice by giving false testimony, essentially, for political purposes.
The person, or persons who failed to give those incriminating Instant Messages to the proper Authorities committed Obstructed Justice for political purposes as well, and judging by the rhetoric, Democrats don’t care one whit that Obstruction of Justice was commited–they onoy care that they can benefit from it–and from NOT exposing those who had this evidence. Because if those people who held it are exposed, so will thier motives for keeping them secret until the best political time will be as well.
It doesn’t matter whether the person or persons who had these incriminating Instant Messages is a Republican or Democrat, Male of Female, Black or White, Straight or Gay. He or they witheld evidence of an ongoing crime that victimized young men, and did it for selfish reasons.
But Democrats and Liberals don’t seem to care to make that an issue.
The other thing I find very
Interesting
is that many of these Liberals and Democrats are saying that, because Republican lawmakers knew that Foley was Gay, they should have limited his contact with the Pages.
That IS one important thing to note. From my reading, most of Washington knew that Foley was Gay, but chose to “stay in the closet.” This is waht is meant when they say he was “odd” or “flaky.” I don’t think that being gay equals being a pedophile, and the ironic thing is that Gay Activists on the left have gone to great lengths to make that point.
More evidence of the disease of Liberalism: Women Sign “We Had Abortion” Petition
Sick.
And sarge avoids direct questions while spewing the same ole nonsense Republicans good Liberals bad. Our guy is a pedophile, but but those guys are worse.
Keep it coming sarge, we appreciate the entertainment.
Note to self- stop reading sarges posts like everybody else and you will have more fun on
this blog.
Oh yeah and Sarge there is already a thread on this please post your crap over there so we don’t have to deal with these Long Sarge Tirades.
#94
No, Term Limits has already done that, unless your one of those who think he should be impeached.
Smacky;
Yesterday you said I had no reagrd for Human Life
Then you said I “celebrated the deaths of Iraqis”
Now you ask a question which I have answered…to you…before, and on several other occasions as well. I’ve psted it in several, more permanent places as well.
You either can’t read, can’t comprehend what you’ve read, can’t retain anything that you read, have a memory that is like Swiss Cheese, or you’re just trying to make me look bad because I’m very effective at countering all of your weak, shop worn, Liberal arguments.
I know which one I will vote for.
DowJones25K, #7, need to make a slight correction. The ONLY reason the Japanese surrendered was because the Emporer ordered the surrender. They were all quite prepared to keep fighting and dying. The Japanese initially thought the Emperor’s proclamation meant they had won the war, because they could fathom no other ending, even after the bombing they had already endured.
Five million German soldiers surrendered to the Allies in Europe. In the Pacific, less than 5% of Japanese forces surrendered. They considered it a disgrace to their families, and instead fought to the death.
That being said, the Muslims, as shown by the Israelis, really can’t stand a severe butt whooping. If we inflict enough pain on them, they’ll quit, and their governments will see to it that they don’t become a problem again….at least for a while. Perhaps we are forestalling the inevitable. Perhaps it will take a nuclear explosion on our soil to make us annihilate them, or sufficiently kill enough of them to make them forever forsake the sword. What I do know right now is what Captain Walker said this morning talking to Edd. It’s a battle worth fighting the way we are fighting it now. I’ll take the experienced opinion of somebody who’s been there several times.