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33 Responses to “Ethics? We don’t NEED no stinkin Ethics!”
  1. southerntragedy on October 26th, 2006 at 10:20 pm

    First! You forgot to mention the other 80 Cent tax…slacker! /ducks and hauls butt!

  2. Neocon on October 26th, 2006 at 10:27 pm

    Vote Blanton, Crowder & Holsey.

    Vote NO on all bond referendums!

  3. southerntragedy on October 26th, 2006 at 10:27 pm

    $0.50 ON THE $100 VALUATION OF TAXABLE PROPERTY AND PROVIDED THAT THE AMOUNT
    OF BOND TAX TOGETHER WITH THE AMOUNT OF MAINTENANCE TAX SHALL NOT EXCEED
    $0.80 ON THE $100 VALUATION OF TAXABLE PROPERTY; SAID BONDS TO BE ISSUED AND
    SAID TAXES TO BE LEVIED, PLEDGED, ASSESSED, AND COLLECTED UNDER THE
    CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS INCLUDING THE TEXAS EDUCATION
    CODE?

    How much would that be? Should I vote no? Afterall, it’s for the children….

  4. Neocon on October 26th, 2006 at 10:28 pm

    ST

    GOOD EXAMPLE! VOTE NO!

  5. Rorschach on October 26th, 2006 at 10:32 pm

    ST, actually the total is capped at 80 cents, and 50 cents of that would be for the bond debt service. so one is a component of the other if I read it correctly.

  6. Rorschach on October 26th, 2006 at 10:33 pm

    I just went back and re-read my post and I think I will edit the post to make that a bit clearer.

  7. southerntragedy on October 26th, 2006 at 10:43 pm

    Please do. I take it as, they can raise the property tax to 50 cents, but tack on for “Maintenence” to make the tax 80 cents per $100. But I’ve been wrong before and will be again fer sure!

  8. southerntragedy on October 26th, 2006 at 10:45 pm

    oops! forgot this:
    BOND TAX “TOGETHER” WITH THE AMOUNT OF “MAINTENANCE TAX” SHALL NOT EXCEED
    $0.80 ON THE $100 VALUATION OF TAXABLE PROPERTY

  9. jimb on October 26th, 2006 at 10:58 pm

    I haven’t seen a bond proposal I’ve actually deemed worthy of voting for in a really long time…

  10. vlou on October 26th, 2006 at 11:15 pm

    So is it $.80 per $100 valuation with $.50 per $100 valuation going to service the bond debt leaving $.30 remaining? I’ll say 11.67 cents to $.50 is quite a LEAP! Go figure.

  11. Rorschach on October 26th, 2006 at 11:20 pm

    #10, that is the way I’m reading it.

  12. southerntragedy on October 26th, 2006 at 11:24 pm

    Rorsch:
    Update: Fred Blanton just emailed me a recording of (President of Montgomery college in The Woodlands) Tom Butler’s talk in front of the Montgomery County Republican Women’s Association where he also stuck to the party line about no higher taxes.

    If this is true and y’all have evidence, I’d call the Conroe Courier and have them do an article along with a copy of that stupid bond proposal. The voter’s are gonna be BAMBOOZELED once again. Election day is next week! I posted my letter in The Villager, but most people use that for bird cage lining…
    Great, get me all riled up so I won’t be able to fall asleep..thanks! :)

  13. southerntragedy on October 26th, 2006 at 11:27 pm

    #9 Jimb: Still got strawberry preserves (collecting dust on cap) for ya! Sawdust Road behind HEB….Just for Y O U!

  14. Rorschach on October 26th, 2006 at 11:35 pm

    #12, the link is up, listen for yourself.

  15. southerntragedy on October 26th, 2006 at 11:54 pm

    Sorry, free dial-up at home. Will check it out tomorrow at work….Rorsch, all I gotta say to you is:
    SIC ‘EM boy! SIC ‘EM!!! goooood boy!
    Would please consider trying to get an article in The Conroe Courier? puuuu-leeeez? blink blink blink…please?
    To send press releases or submit story ideas– City Editor Andy DuBois — Send to: e-mail couriernews@hcnonline.com; FAX (936) 442-3393 or mail to 100 Ave. A, Conroe, TX 77301 or call (936) 442-3419.

  16. rideuponthewind on October 27th, 2006 at 6:37 am

    My questions to Mr. Butler is this: You say that you retired the last bond debts, when in fact those bonds were renogiated down to a lower interest rate at a cost of 11% of the value of the bonds being refinanced. These “consultant fees” come out of the tax payers’ pockets. Where is the savings? Were these consultants on retainer based on open bids, or are they chosen to perform these functions by members of the board of trustees? An 11% fee to reduce bond indebtedness seems excessive to me.

    Each little college in your district seems to have it’s own agenda, as you yourself stated. Why should I, who live in Spring, care about a graduating theratre for nurses in Kingwood? Why don’t you find a way to utilize existing facilities within the district for graduating purposes? Why should I finance $750,000 for a grand entry off E. Richie road into the NHC campus when those funds could be used to help your college finance more math labs? The building of a “grand parkway” will cost NHC additional money to replace parking spaces which will be destroyed to build another entrace/exit onto a campus which sits at the end of a runway, and said roadway will empty onto a direct path of another planned IAH airstrip.

    Blather, blather, blather. Waste and fraud and deceipt and that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

    Ethics? What ethics? This District is just despicable, and we need NEW LEADERSHIP! And maybe there is too much “autonomy” and not enough control over the purse-strings.

  17. DeepPurple on October 27th, 2006 at 7:08 am

    Where do Basaldua, Bates, and McIver stand on the blatent Ethics violations? Why haven’t we seen some heads roll at The District over the electioneering that whet on back in April/May, and that is obviously still going on now? Chapter 556 of The Texas Government Code outlines: Political Activities by Certain Public Entities and Individuals, and lays forth Prohibited Acts of Agencies and Idividuals.

    http://agservices.tamu.edu/Forms/AG-417.pdf

    Whereas today these people believe they walk on water, the truth is they are seriously treading water and skating on very thin ice.

    Personally, I wouldn’t wish to be their shoes right about now. As a very wise man I know likes to say, “It ain’t over ’till the fat lady sings.”

    I anxiously await your update Rorschach.

  18. Sluth on October 27th, 2006 at 7:35 am

    #16; I guess you are referring to the “Bond Swap” that went on back in the September Board meeting. Surprising that no media experts have picked up on this. Let me understand it. In the 1/4 Billion Dollar bond issue they had “Money” for refinancing higher rate bonds, that would cost us in fees about 2-3%. They spent fees of 11% as I have detected from an eyewitness at the Board meeting, and there was one Dissenting vote on that “Bath to the taxpayers” but they said we would save money, but nowhere near what the friends of board members will make in commissions; is that correct?

    Mr. Butler looks like he will have some “splaining” to do over his statement of fact about “NO TAX INCREASE” … seems like he said to the Chamber of Commerce back in March or April that “it would not cost a dime.” Perhaps since he came from “up east,” according to the recording, that he does not know Texas Election laws, funny you’d think he’d know that making as much $$$ as he does!

  19. rideuponthewind on October 27th, 2006 at 7:46 am

    #18, Sluth:

    Yes. That is my understanding of the “bond-swap” events of September. I’ve no idea of how much we taxpayers pay in the form of income remuneration to The District Administrators, but from what I’ve seen at http://www.collegewatch.net, “upper level management” are paid quite well. And didn’t the board just “reward” them with a 4% raise? And spent time and efforts to education these people by having the Head of the Texas Ethics Commission speak before them so they would be aware of what constitutes ethical behaivor for “state employees?”

    Pathetic, disgusting, immoral, and JUST SAD. They have no regard for this community. They’re in it for the glory.

    Looks like some will go down in FLAMES! GOOD!

  20. Sluth on October 27th, 2006 at 7:54 am

    #17;

    BATES, BASALUDA, MCIVER (Larry Curley & Moe) Funny how I read the section 556 that you mention and yet with all of the scandals, ethics violations and electioneering taking place within the College District, you would think, unless they are a part of it, that there would have been some firings, heads rolling and a little cleanup taking place.

    But wait, it all seems to be towards their benefit and advantage…..BASALUDA keeps coming up with these “Clinton” excuses that he just got on the scene, but is ready and willing to take credit for everything done in the past, yet he was not there for the past 6-7 years? (literally “out to lunch” for the past 10 months) It reminds me of “I didn’t have SEX with that Woman” line… I see his signs up all over and his door tags and fancy color brochures about lower taxes, yet he wants to do just the opposite… WHAT happened to the “Happy TEAM” (once again trying to claim for the past when he was not here)… did they all split up and take the forks in the road or it just another deception again? These guys remind me of the Three Triplets with “matching unlike DNA, parents and philosophy”…. don’t know who they are, where they have been or where they are going….follow the money!

    I guess I’d also have to ask where these guys stand on the Section 556 violations… seems taht they too have not seen fit for any action on all of those violations either!…..

  21. rideuponthewind on October 27th, 2006 at 8:09 am

    Larry, Curly and Moe! I love it! muahahahaha. Maybe the HCN papers will pick up on it as a mantra, eh?

  22. Rorschach on October 27th, 2006 at 8:14 am

    DP, interesting reading that link. It would appear that a whole BUNCH of political subdivisions (Harris County, City of Houston, and others) have been in violation of this since they ALL employ lobbyists.

  23. Sluth on October 27th, 2006 at 8:25 am

    OK So I am reading the “tea Leaves:
    1. Largest Voting Rights Violation in Texas History

    2. Largest Ethics Scandals in TEC commission history

    3. More Questionable Spending and some whopper Credit Card charges, bigger than T.S.U. The Alma Mata of one of the board members?

    4. Largest and Highest TAX RATE INCREASES in Harris County from 2002 to 2005…. 15%

    5. Big miss on attendance increase for the Fall 2006 semester, in fact is there not a “on-Campus” decrease of something like 2-3%?

    6. Missed totally the new Bush/IAH Airport Runway construction that goes right over their “Flagship Campus”

    7. BLEW over a Million Dollars on a failed election, yet they got caught by the Justice Department…. and they claim to be cautious conservators of what?

    8. Reminds me of our Cy-Fair ISD bonds that got us the Berry Edification Center… we voted for the schools, but we got “schooled” in what the “fine print” means and as they told us we voted for it in 2001… and one of the candidates also running was a big backer of those bonds too, if I remember correctly that was that Lampe woman.

    I can go on and on and on and on…. but really are we going to get schooled again?

  24. Sluth on October 27th, 2006 at 8:31 am

    # 17 & # 22;
    How does Section 556.0055 and 556.006 relate to the Chancellor lobbying the legislature “talking to” where he was paid something like $80-90,000 in 2005 and has all of those charges made to the District Credit Cards?

    I see that there are exemptions to higher education, but is that a blank check to spend taxpayer’s money lobbying?

    Is there yet another story developing?

  25. DeepPurple on October 27th, 2006 at 9:25 am

    #24. That may be a question for the Ethics Commission. I don’t much like paying for lobbyists out of my tax dollars, and I wonder what kind of loop-holes exist in lobbying laws that allow for a state employee to lobby the legislature. Also, how does Pickleman’s sabbatical fit in with the sabbatical leave policies of The District? I don’t see the connection at all !! I feel cheated by the system, and I certainly feel cheated by OUR college district! When does Justice serve all the people all the time?

    It obviously DOESN’T !!

  26. Liberal Democrat on October 27th, 2006 at 6:51 pm

    As a die hard liberal democrat, I am predisposed to voting for bonds to provide more resources for education. Thanks to the extensive evidence I read at http://www.collegewatch.net, I am voting against the NHMCCD bond with a clear conscience. When the college presents a clear and honest justification for a bond, then I will consider voting to approve it. Mr. Blanton, Mr. Crowder, and Dr. Hosley have my support and gratitude for their efforts and desire to clean up the unethical and shameful mess the current Board and college administration has made.

  27. Sluth on October 27th, 2006 at 10:30 pm

    #26…. That seems to be the consensus out here too. There is no real justification for the bonds, on the face.

    The last election that was to save a few thousand Dollars… cost us a cool MILLION $$$$$$ PLUS!

  28. DeepPurple on October 28th, 2006 at 10:47 am

    And for this voter, it cost me a couple pairs of socks and blisters and worn out tenny runners.

    Small price to pay for JUSTICE!

  29. DeepPurple on October 28th, 2006 at 2:47 pm

    http://biz.yahoo.com/weekend/mbacheat_1.html

    M.B.A.s: The Biggest Cheaters

    Why care about any kind of schooling when it’s all one huge JOKE!

    garbage, garbage, garbage.

    Let’s all go out and become EDUCRATS! And steal money from all the taxpayers.

    garbage, garbage, garbage. Education is a privilege.

    Right………….

  30. DeepPurple on October 28th, 2006 at 3:24 pm

    Just got my copy of the *Star* in the mailbox today.

    Liars, liars, pants on fire!

    G A R B A G E ! ! ! !

    (And guess who gets to pay for that rubbish? Propaganda? G A R B A G E ! ! !)

    YOU DO!

    Bah!

  31. Rorschach on October 29th, 2006 at 12:34 am

    Guess what that latest bit of illegal electioneering cost the taxpayer! According to the minutes of the Oct meeting, it cost you $94,004 to write, print and mail that propaganda rag. I could have sent both of my daughters to UT for that and still had the change to pay off my house.

  32. Sluth on October 29th, 2006 at 6:45 am

    Didn’t they do the similar thing for about $53-54,000 on some Post Card and …got hammered for electioneering… and they are back again.

    Did the $94,004 include the postage this time…I think it’s a “Four Colour” Four page piece this time…..

    I guess we need the “Ever Ready Bunny” on this one, cause they just don’t learn… and I MUST NOTE: It’s in one language once again ENGLISH (my preferred) but no Viet. or Span…. are they not thinking again or is it another example of: “Larry Curley & Moe” back from the May election, and going to try it all over again?

    Third time’s a charm… I’m waiting for the next blunder… I guess for Haloween they will all wear “Orange Jump Suits” and have chains and schackles … like some other commentor mentioned a while back!

  33. DeepPurple on October 29th, 2006 at 8:46 am

    Figures……..

    I hope they all rot!

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