Grab your wallets Houston. The “official” push for a new stadium for the Houston Dynamo soccer team has kicked off. Not satisfied with sharing Robertson Stadium with the Houston Cougars, last night on KHOU TV, Oliver Luck announced that for the franchise to become economically viable the team needs a new stadium. If history is any indicator, the citizens of Houston will be asked to foot the bill for the 4th new professional sports stadium built since 2000. Economically viable? Hmmm now where I have heard that before.
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Good Luck Oliver.
First!!!
Everybody else must be out at the polls.
Give em Rice (stadium that is)
what, Reliant is too big? Robertson sucks?
Boo hoo!!!one!!111!eleven!!!!!
Ya want it, build it yourself!!!
I want a pony
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yea lets fleece the taxpayers some more - shoot they didnt do anything to perry with the biz tax we can get by with a new stadium.
If we don’t will they go to Tennessee? Or better yet:
http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/americas/9908/17/mexico.quake/mexico.mexico.city.jpg
Can I say “told you so?”
http://www.chronicallybiased.com/index.php?itemid=809
Isn’t this the same soccer team that was orignally named 1846? Is this the same team that the Hispanic team protested, because that was when Texas was STOLEN from Mexico? Is this the same team that the Hipanic’s would boycott, if they didn’t change their name? Hey, why don’t THEY build a new stadium?
Yeah but guys, I heard that 1000 people showed up for the latest playoff game. Heck - maybe they can have one of the high school stadiums that our local ISDs don’t think are good enough any more.
NO.
What part of that don’t they understand?
I say build it. The Dynamo deserves their own stadium. I would rather another stadium than the pennies I would save by not building it.
#10 Jose
What pennies are you losing by NOT building a stadium. Color me stupid, but I don’t understand your remark. Usually, building a stadium costs money - we have history on that.
#11 now ted you have not heard a politicians answer on how you do not spend money on a stadium.
the locals will go to the rick perry school of finance to learn how to answer such questions.
Sure, lets bring a thug sport to Houston with all of the rioting after a loss. If they have a record like the Texans we can have a riot a week.
#12 dowjones
You are so right. The last accounting course I had was at A&M as part of my BBA. I apologize for not having kept up with the newest political GAAPs.
/tic
#10 Jose
I have re-read your remark and now I understand it. You think they deserve a stadium and you are willing to spend (my) money to build it.
Under a capitalistic system, which America has, things of value usually draw private money funding. Investors would gain their money back by taking part of the income stream. If it’s not going to draw that kind of money, then it’s not worth doing. There may be some exceptions, such as orphan drugs, etc., where human life is involved; or where there is a need to alleviate human suffering for those who truly need it. For things such as sport venues, private ventures, etc., the investment should speak for itself. I voted against the stadiums we have now just for that reason. It’s bad enough that our government forces me to be charitable to people who, in some part, take advantage of the forced donations (welfare), but don’t force me to pay to build a stadium so that someone else can get rich off my taxes. No.
The sad part is that even after bringing a soccer team to Houston, the Astros are still the lowest scoring team in Houston!
Go Cardinals! 2006 World Champions!
The Sports Authority is a monster created to make the rich richer and the taxpayer poorer. We have got to be the only city DUMB enough to try to provide a stadium for every conceivable sport out there. If they want to do something constructive why not build a gambling “stadium” (aka casino), at least it might be self sufficient, tax revenue generating operation. People wouldn’t have to drive to Louisana, they could lose there money here.
Where does the line form to oppose this?
How about a cricket field, and a rugby field, a bobsled track…
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Cricket_field_parts.svg/545px-Cricket_field_parts.svg.png
Before we know it, there will be more sports stadiums here than churches….
#10 Jose
En fin, su conocido lo dice todo.
#10 Jose
By the way, Jose, have you donated?
#20 Si me estas preguntando si estoy aqui legalmente y pago mis impuestos, My answer is yes. I was born here
Call it the ICE Field?
#22 I agree with you Mikey, it would be great to see ICE deport the 80% anlgo crowd that go to the games.
Let em play in a vacant lot
NO NEW STADIUMS!
Jose and Mikey51
This discussion is about a stadium issue and not immigration. Let’s keep it that way.
The Moderator
I say let them play at the Berry Center, home of the Texas Copperheads!
This should be able to handle 99% of the turnout for the Dynamo’s games:
http://www.houstonarchitecture.info/haif/index.php?showtopic=5809
#9
1,000 attendance?
Actual attendance was 23,107
Don Jose: Y cuando no puedas vivir en tu casa porque los impuestos en la propiedad y el costo de vida es muy grande, que vas hacer?
And when you no longer can afford your house because of property taxes and high cost of living, what are going to do?
You pay for the damn stadium. Leave me and my family alone. I have voted against every bond proposal for building stadiums.
Like a Brit once asked an American in an airplane: How do you like taxation with representation thus far?
You enslave your children, if you are so unconcerned for future generations so that you can watch “men” kick a ball around.
Too many Esau’s in this land.
How about you guys leave the stadium talk for after the season. Those players are out there playing hard. The players didn’t change the name of the team. They are playing for the Championship this Sunday. Lets welcome and support OUR MLS team. GO DYNAMO!!!!!!!!!
30
How do you know details about that guy? How do you know how much he makes or what he can afford or not afford? You vote against the stadiums? Good for you. If he wants to vote for a stadium, that’s his choice.
Fasternu- You got it right! Another Stadium? UGHHHHH.
Where will put that traffic? another Rail?
Cityof Houston people are determined to destroy the city.
#30 Hacer lo que siempre hago, hacer mas dinero.
Do what I always do, make more money.
Their is no point to even arguing this issue because it is a done deal. The City wants it and the County will back them up.
If you want a stadium for the Dynamo ask Mexico to foot the bill. Now if it was still the 1836 maybe you could ask Texans to foot the bill.
Personally I think the stadium you are using now is good enough.
Didn’t we find out recently that the Houston Sports Authority is going to tap into the toll road revenue to pay for the bonds due to a decrease in tax revenue ? And we’re being asked to fund another stadium when we can’t pay for the ones we have already?
I agree with an earlier statement. If private enterprise won’t fund it (because it’s economically not viable) then taxpayers shouldn’t fund it unless it is for the common good.
Or unless it’s for the children, like the Berry Center (home to the Texas Copperheads!)
You know, Jose, I would appreciate it if you stuck to speaking English. Most people here speak English, and you’re attempt to either make us feel different, inferior, or “outside” isn’t making you any friends. Many of us speak other languages, but we don’t use them because we have formed a group that wants to talk together about issues.
And by the way, if making more money is so easy, make some for me, will ya? My husband and I are already busting our collective a$$es so that our children or our community won’t have to support us in our old age.
#37 Yo puedo escribir cualquier idioma que me ronca la gana. La libertad de expression esta garantizado por la constiticion del pais.
I’ll write whatever language I want to write. Freedom of expression is guranteed by the constitution.
As far as sending you some money I would be more than happy to throw some your way as long as you can score some hat trcks for the Dynamo.
I think the Dynamo are doing quite well by themselves, thank you. I’m very happy for them. Don’t screw it up by asking me to “help” them out!
hey…why didnt he speak up when the astrodome was vacant
#40
YEAH!! Recycle, recycle, recycle. The dome would be perfect for the soccer team.
Hey, this is AMERICA. Write in a language (ENGLISH) we can all understand and don’t be so rude. We don’t need another taxpayer funded stadium of any kind for any sport. Get a life. If you want to personally fund it, go ahead, but don’t involve the majority of taxpayers who oppose it. No sport is worth it.
I want a new house - it will only benefit me - no one else. I think the tax payers should pay for it and maintain it for me.
Same thought patern - why the heck would I pay for a new stadium that I will get NO benefit from!
I do not even like sports! NO - NO WAY- NADA - FORGET IT - NO NEW FRIGGEN SPORTS VENUES ON MY NICKEL!
And Jose! If I make more money - I plan to keep it for myself.
Jose, This is an ENGLISH speaking forum, if you are not capable or proficient enough in ENGLISH to post properly then please refer to an ENGLISH dictonary.
DefBlond, how much will you charge for admission? I’ll pay for your new house before I willingly pay for any sports stadium.
Kein neuer Stadium!
#38 Jose:
First Amendment rights do not apply when you’re using someone else’s resources to do it.
If you do not agree, well, come on by the office. I’d like to use your version of my First Amendment rights to spraypaint my blog entries on your body. And your car. And your house. And your driveway.
Feel free to translate this into Barriospeak.
#44 Nah, I would rather settle for a tax payer sponsored English course much of the same way I am going to enjoy another tax payer sponsored stadium. In another year it will be the
HSA 4 LST & KSEV 0
As long as I have Google to translate “Hacer lo que siempre hago, hacer mas dinero.” to read “To do what always I do, to make but money.”, I am good with Spanish on the board.
The argument to build a soccer stadium makes about as much sense.
I suggest a stadium/language compromise:
Ellos pueden jugar el futbol in el Centro del Berry, pero ellos no pueden hablar espanol alli!
They can play soccer in the Berry Center, but they can’t speak Spanish there!
Economically viable?
http://www.offthekuff.com/mt/archives/004001.html
Why don’t we all just bend over at the same time and get it over with all at once? I’ll buy the first jar of Vaseline.
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Hmmm now where I have heard that before.
blogHOUSTON? TBIFOC?
Among others.
#51
Now you have the idea. Anyone with any sense knows that Houston needs more stadiums than any other city in order to be World-Class. Get with the program and bend over people.
http://lonestartimes.com/2005/12/22/soccer-in-houston-another-stadium/
Make the stadium an official ICE headquarters. The govt will then justify the spending of the stadium. As many illegals also enjoy the roaring yell of GGGOOOOLLLL!!!!!!!!!! ICE can catch of few of Mexico’s finest right at their headquarters, and also save money on gas transporting illegals as the jail can be under the stadium.
I am glad Jose can get more money on demand. That makes him either an ISD appraiser or a highway robber. Which amounts to the same thing.
Well, I do not want to have to make more money to enable you to watch men kick a ball around.
As things stand, I am trying to get out of Houston because my property taxes haev almost doubled since I bought my house. The problem is that I do not have the money to do the repairs and, therefore, cannot yet leave the hell hole being created by idiots who think that sports are at par with liberty.
JUST SAY NO!
#57 No Jaime, it just makes me a fan of the future MLS Champs.
You guys (and gals) won’t believe this but I heard about this two months ago.
The very rich, very Republican family that I work for has been negotiating with Luck (owner of the Dynamo) and other entities to sell some real estate and a development deal for the stadium.
The plan is not only for a new stadium but a multi-use soccer complex all funded by your tax dollars.
I won’t divulge the name of the family but the area they are trying to sell is I-45 N and Beltway 8.
Future MLS champs? If so, they will be champs regardless of a new stadium. Let them become champs and with the profits the stadium can be built without taxpayer money.
“I keek lee soccor boll to your OOPS MISSED THIS ONE
Go away! I vowed to never support these soccor when they changed to name from 1836.
I hope they franchise leaves! Go bankrupt already! I hate your team!!
The Penguin was here.
#60 Like I said earlier the fix is in. So you might as well sit back and enjoy the new complex.
Soccor is the world’s stupidist sport.
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#64 ThunderHawkk
And within a few years would have made that uninhabital area a money making machine with top notch industry.
#65 Hey Malinche, you may want to check out Monterrey sometime. Apart from having great soccer facilities they also have top notch industrial complexes
and cabrito
No wonder I like to live in Houston less and less. As time goes on Houston power brokers control the city’s operation like a Bannana Republic.
Can we say future 3rd World MLS Champions? That is what we are becoming.
Does anyone read history? panem et circenses
Bread and Circus, in English.
Pan y circo, en Espanol.
62 thunderhawkk
Great language! I bet your family would be proud.
Paging the Penguin…
I thought soccor was a third world country sport - why would we want it here?
#71 Soccer is played everywhere. Even by the local population on West Harris County. Imagine that.
71
I guess it’s such a third world country sport that the we had to copy its name for our most popular sport (Football).
70
this penguin:
http://www.toddv.com/sp12/cleve-blog/02-06/evil-penguin.jpg
Thunderhawkk, you need to learn to stop beating around the bush and tell us what you really think.
Let team owners pay for stadiums! Because you like soccer, does not mean everyone in Harris Co (and surrounding areas doing business there) should pay for it (goes for all sports too!!!). I can’t get any public funds to buy my business a new building with better office space and a better production area or some new equipment. Nor do I want any! Only sports teams will get ***welfare*** to pay for their multi million dollar playgrounds. Their payrolls are hundreds of millions of dollars. Why? So we can be entertained? Those guys are nothing but trained monkeys dancing for us. I still have a bad tase from the strikes from baseball, basketball, hockey, and football, and the Oilers moving and the Astros threat to move to Va. Screw professional sports! Why are some businesses (and they are a business, just ask Bud Adams and Drayton Mcclain) considered better than others? How about a tax break for most businessses and not a tax hike for the benefit of an elite few? We pay for those guys and gals box seats…. Someday when all the businesses are squeezed so hard noone has a job, at least we’ll have sports teams…
I’d rather watch a race… Drag races are privately funded or sponsored by business, not taxing authorities!
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each sports has it day…
it will thrive one year
and the next its on the bottom of the heap…
so to say just because now the soccer team is doing well
later will be different story when they start to lose
if the team was so great..why did it not stay at its original city
why not have a stadium for Midget Tossing
those who enjoy that event say its popular
and well attended
If we build a stadium they will just tear it up. Look at all the riots they have at soccer games in other parts of the world.
Don’t think that won’t happen here!
Hello? tap tap tap…ahem..™
Attention all LST’ers….DNFTT….He will go away! I can imagine him just waiting for your response! He’ll get bored and go away! He gets a kick outa making you upset…
#79
Really?
77 LTC
Way to make a racist comment toward Little People!
Do you want to get rid of them too?
78 Navymom
Just like these stadiums were torn down?
http://sports.espn.go.com/travel/news/story?id=2597656
Here the basketball players rush the stands and beat the crap out of fans. Or in Football, players from institutions of higher learning literally get into all out brawls on the field and off the field. Baseball players have thrown objects into the stands at fans. These are all isolated incidents that occur in all walks of life. If you do not support a stadium being built with tax dollars, that’s fine. That is your opinion. For you to categorize a whole group of people that enjoy a sport, that is not right.
#82
No one is characterizing a whole group of people except maybe the stadium builders. Look at that stadium in Brazil. You have an elevated playing field surrounded by a wall, a moat, and at least 25′ of buffer zone. Obviously they want the calm, sedate fans to enjoy their favorite teams real close up.
Merde. No sport is marred by more violence than Soccer, with the possible exception of boxing, but then, that’s the point of boxing.