David Benzion commented that he felt the party needed to feel a little pain in order to help focus itself. I hope you have massive quantities of your favorite liquid pain reliever, because here comes the pain. I’m going to make some predictions, let us see just how close I get in a few years.
Amnesty will be granted, taxes will increase, socialized medicine will be back on the front burner, Iraq will revert to a bloody civil war ravaged cesspool of terrorism, Afghanistan will do the same, virtually every middle eastern state will go nuclear within 2 years. North Korea will terrorize the eastern pacific region. China will be well on the way to having an outpost on the moon and will have signs saying “Posted: Keep Off!” ready to plant when they get there. By the time we have a chance to try to recover, the US will be less than a paper tiger, a shell of it’s former self. We won’t have the ability to even influence the country of Togo, much less Iran. The economy which has been on the upside of the first hill on the roller coaster is about to be on it’s way back down. The economy is going to tank, unemployment will go through the roof, gasoline will be pushing $5 a gallon. The oil biz will tank and people will be saying the last person out of Houston, don’t forget to turn out the lights the way we in Houston did about the auto biz in Michigan a couple decades ago..
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Wow! You sure are optimistic!
$5/gallon gas sounds great won’t be as many speeders on I-45 North. Thank you bush, perry, hutch, cronyn, brady, dewhurst and craddick for the upcoming demise of the US of America - long live the New US of Merica.
wake up American - its happening : http://usawakeup.org/
Dire predictions, but I agree with you.
(Reposted from earlier thread)
For the guy that called in to Edd Hendee this morning happy about the election results because it was the “wake up call” he had hoped for with his protest voting…
Are you going to pay my higher tax bill for me? Are you going to help pay my bills when the cost of living goes up due to the Dems increasing the minimum wage? Are you going to help pay my increasing medical cost because of liberal policies that pay for health care of illegal immigrants (or even worse, increased taxes if they get universal health care)?
I didn’t enjoy having to hold my nose and vote for the Republicans, but I am aware that RINO season is in the spring, not the fall. But, now we have a Dem majority that has pledged to stick it to us within the first 100 hours of their governing!
I cannot stomach someone telling me that they stuck to their “principals” by allowing Democrats to take office!!!! If so, your principals must be: Higher Taxes, weak on security, weak on the border, Universal Health Care, On Demand Abortion, Liberal Judges writing laws (New Jersey anyone?), Bashing Christians, Environment over Economy, etc.!!!!
Well, I guess this is the political cycle where the Democrats get to screw things up and then down the line the Republicans come back in. Let’s hope the country is not too screwed up that it can’t be fixed. The Republicans became generic Democrats and power corrupts. The Republicans showed the voters they could not avoid the scandals so they are out. Now the Democrats get their turn and if history is any indication, they will do the same.
Unfortunately your predictions are correct. Maybe if the extremist wing of the party wasn’t so short sighted, and saying idiotic things like vote for a democrat to teach the Republicans a lesson(thank you Senator elect Patrick)this all could have been avoided. But ya’ll decided to put to give more importance to your petty differences with party heirarchy than out national security. GOOD JOB. Pat yourselves on the back. You’ve set us back at least 2 possibly 6 years.
We ask or politicians to stick to “principles,” and yet when they don’t, we are asked to compromise our own principles and vote for them anyway as the lesser of two evils. I am disappointed almost to the point of depression about the election results, yet many of the RINO’s were in fact weeded out of office (Lincoln Chaffing for one). Rick Perry lied to us, raised our taxes during a period of budget surplus, and then expected and received our vote locally - however, the national scene did not buy that BS. It’s time for a new beginning for conservatives, with leadership, principles, no fear of failure to be re-elected, and to rebuild from the ground up. It should be obvious to anyone who pays attention that the Republicans gave this one away - the Dems didn’t do anything but fill in the void. As Earl Pitts used to say - Wake up America.
I think the general election is the wrong time to “send a message” to the Republicans. The risk is that they will see the votes cast for Democrats so they will move to the center and maybe even to the left to try to win back those votes.
A lot of the national Democratic wins were with conservative Democrats (ex: Heath Shuler) because they realized that liberals did not stand a chance to win in certain areas and it was more important to have somebody win with a ‘D’ beside their name.
Ok, look folks as bad as things look right now, they can get much worse in 2 years. We still have some sembalance of control of our future. But we as conservatives have to start now. We have to begin with communications to those who we know to be conservatives and flood them with support and have them keep fighting the good fight. Next we have to find more people who are conservative who are willing to run for office and get conservatives on the ballot in EVERY election. It starts with the grass roots and the local GOP organizations need to start Today in working towards reversing this change. They need to set up a platform that will force the liberals to show thier colors.
1) Closing the borders, but expanding the immigration guidelines to get honest seasonal workers access to employment
2) Lowering taxes more, and elimination of the death tax. With the Dems in control 2010 is an important date.
3) Clearly define what the war on terror is and stop being mr nice guy to those that want to appease these groups.
I’m not convinced any of that wouldn’t have happened with Repubs in control as well. But I understand the need to be an “I told you so”. It’s just human nature I suppose.
Just to clarify the record, my “bring the PAIN” argument was never directed at the Federal level (where the stakes are too high), and was informed by by understanding that Republicans would continue to retain control of the state house, state senate, and lt. governor’s chair.
And it was also simply a recognition of reality– I do not believe that Rick Perry will have “learned” the “lesson” of this election.
But hey, I’d love to be proven wrong here… the upcoming legislative session provides the perfect opportunity to demonstrate to me the error of my analysis.
But I will be evaluating results, not rhetoric.
Gee thanks for depressing me!!!!!!!!!!!
So, where is the liberal media with all the stories today about voting problems? Where are they? As soon as the socialists win, all those stories are discarded! Damn the liberal media! They were all set up to contest the results until their own people won….
We are living under a Stalinist propoganda brave new world….
Never believe anything the mainstream media says…
#14
The same people that own Fox News own CNN. The oligarchy in this country owns everything. Stop kidding yourself. Rupert Murdoch did some fund-raising for Hillary Clinton. If you watch Fox News, they have already begin moving to the middle in anticipation of the Hillary Clinton presidency.
12, David, yes I understand YOU didn’t mean on the federal level, but there were a lot of people, especially in northern states where the illegal problem is not as visible that did not grasp that concept.
15, Murdoch does not own CNN. Murdoch owns News Corp.
Are you guys (and gals) really serious about the country going to hell in a hand basket?
The Dems are going to do no more or less than the Repubs. As a matter of fact, the gridlock will be better for our collective wallets.
Secondly, the tax cuts put in place by GWB have sunset provisions. They are set to expire not long after he leaves office. I’m not complaining about getting a tax cut. However, he had to compromise to get them and the sunset provision in addition to the rebate checks were the result.
Third, China, NK, and Iran have just as much right to stock pile nukes as we do. In Iran’s case, they don’t want Haliburton invading their country under the guise of WMD. Who died and made America god? Moreover, we are in Iraq looking for WMDs yet the G-8 (US included) has provided military hardware to some of the poorest nations on Earth. Those are the real WMDs! Truth is, we profit off the instability especially if the country has resources that we can use.
Iraq and Afghan wars are not going anywhere. The only thing we may get with Dem house is an actual timetable for withdrawal. Even still, it won’t be followed because the profiteers (Arab and western) will create further instability so that the gravy train continues.
The oil biz and economy are not going anywhere either. Corporate America makes Repub and Dem campaign contributions. They play both sides who in turn play you!
Amnesty for illegals ain’t happening either. The banking/finance industry wants the money to go back to Mexico to sit in American-owned Mexican banks. If the illegals are put on a path to citizenship, it means they will eventually disconnect from the Motherland. Besides, there are too many employers benefiting from cheap labor. The gravy train will continue moving down the track.
All in all, nothing changes in America other than the news and weather. The system was designed to keep it that way. We are less than a century removed from civil causes (workers’ rights, women’s suffrage, civil rights).
Relax.
#17
I know that. It doesn’t explain his fund-raising for Hillary since him and Roger Ailes claim to be conservatives.
18 - joebexar - Phew! I guess it really going to be ok after all!
#20
That’s the spirit…Enjoy the gridlock
#20, I don’t think he was smart enough to realize you were patronizing him. What a troll.
#18 You scare me. You really do. “… China, NK, and Iran have just as much right to stock pile nukes as we do”???
Do you honestly want someone that truly believes he is destined to cause the apocalypse with a nuke in his arsenal (Iran)???
Yesterday is proof that uninformed people (and anger blinded people) vote. And it scares me!
Nope. Sorry, I still think we’re all dead. Learn Spanish. Buy a prayer rug. Get a map and find where east is if you don’t already know.
Another round of beer and brats ‘cuz joebexar says the DemonRats, against thier very nature, will not change the status quo!
North Korea, a goverment that crushes and terrorizes it’s population, has as much right to nukes as us? Really? Wow.
Again - where are the stories about voting problems today?????
#7
Your comments are well taken but if you look at Houston and Texas we (the state) still voted in Republicans (or the ones already in) in all most of the major races (gov, lt.gov, US congress) with the exception of the write-in which was a long shot anyway after the Delay collapse. We vented but the GOP won out in the state (I am sure there are exceptions, I have not really looked at all the races). The city propositions and the KATY bond issue passing are the killers in this area. Of the majority of GOP in the area and we cannot vote on eliminating the obvious money grabs. Maybe Dan/Edd will concentrate on LOCAL issues (like Friendswood, bond issues) where the audience can make the difference. Maybe after all this clears up the GOP will get serious about 2008 Senate and Presidental candidates/stances. That is the big goal.
#18 joebexar,
BTW - I was in Mexico City, back in 1982, the week that Mexico nationalized all the banks. Over the years, the banks were allowed to privatize, although, as far as I know, the only USA bank allowed to process ingress/egress transactions is/was Citibank.
Foriegn investors were allowed to help capitalize the banks, but I do not think they have any majority ownership position. Since I don’t have any banking relationship in Mexico I can only speculate as to today.
Is there a third-party out there that can confirm this?
#18 Are you high? The only right North Korea and Iran have is the right to get their a**** kicked if they don’t get rid of their nukes.
Amnesty is a done deal. Pelosi wants it, W wants it, Kennedy wants it, and Mcain wants it as well. Future votes from the Latino population will far outweigh whatever banking conspiracy you have concocted in your head.
Finally,the biggest change is going to be the handling of the war. You forgot to mention that every man, woman, and child in this country will be placed in greater danger if any timetable for withdrawl is brought up.
You forgot to lay the blame where it squarely belongs.
The republicans have disgraced us in too mnay ways to list!
Now secure our borders you losers!
It should been done the day of 9/11/01.
#18 joebexar
You think just like I do.
Your predictions apply regardless of whether republicans or democrats are in power.
Since I believe the north Amerikan union is what they ultimately want the dems taking control is a win win for our sellout politicians.
Bring on the north Amerikan union.
What happened to the GOP?
I am a recovering Democrat. When I became conservative, I thought Republicans stood for responsibility (personal and fiscal), discipline, and CONSERVATIVE principles. I feel like the victim of a bait and switch.
How did the Republicans come to forget the principles and the innovative means to achieve conservative ends (a la Gingrich) that put them in the majority? It took a half-century for Democrats to overreach and get so full of themselves they thought they couldn’t lose. It took Republicans little more than a decade.
And what can we do? Conservatives have abandoned their posts. They’re not going to fight the Dems. They’re going to “compromise.”
Alas and alack.
#34, I am not abandoning my post, and i won’t stop fighting. but like Mr Incredible (George Parr) says in the opening of “The Incredibles”: “Why can’t the world stay saved, if just for a little while?”