“He liked puppies, and sunshine, and lollipops”
by David Benzion · 11/29/2006 10:19 amTime for the inevitable “He was such a nice, quiet boy,” reactions from friends and neighbors, courtesy the Houston Chronicle.
Kobie Williams left Ramadan baskets packed with chocolate-laced trail mix on his neighbors’ doorsteps and wistfully spoke of going to Egypt to study the Quran. Adnan Mirza was active in Muslim groups and spent his Sundays at a Houston soup kitchen feeding the homeless.
To their friends and families, Williams, 33, and Mirza, 29, were enthusiastic college students dedicated to God and family.
But Justice Department officials presented a shockingly different view of the men Tuesday, branding both as Taliban supporters — one contributing $350 to terrorists — who conspired to train with weapons with the goal of fighting U.S.-led forces in the Mideast. [snip]
[Ali] Qazi [Mirza's cousin] said the accused man has been very active with Islamic community groups, and routinely collects spare food from restaurants to feed the homeless.
In the past year, Qazi said, Mirza had developed an interest in hunting.
Hmm, hunting what? Jew?
At the nearby Masjid el-Farouq mosque that Mirza attended, members Tuesday night expressed surprise at the federal accusations.
“He’s the kindest, sweetest person,” said one, who identified himself only as Mohamad because he feared retaliation from authorities. “He would not harm a fly.”
Masjid el-Farouq mosque… Masjid el-Farouq… where have we heard that name before?
Oh yeah–the Freedom House report on Wahabbist hate-ideology in American mosques (pdf, 95 pages).
There are many excerpts I could quote, but here I’ll only reproduce the one I think is the “best” (pages 58-60):
Wahhabi writings emphasize the obligatory nature of the purification that jihad produces, whether it be in overcoming external enemies, or perfecting the inner self. To Be a Muslim [Document No. 31], published by Saudi Arabia’s International Islamic Publishing House and gathered from the Al-Farouq Mosque in Houston, Texas, exhorts Muslims to work for the establishment of “functionally Islamic governments” in all nations:
“[Muslims should work] to form a society that is committed to the Islamic way of thinking and Islamic way of life, which means to form a government that implements principles of justice embodied in the shari’a….Until the nations of the world have functionally Islamic governments, every individual who is careless or lazy in working for Islam is sinful.” [Document No. 31]
The Houston mosque-goers are then instructed that change – including political change – is connected directly with jihad:
“These responsibilities to change both oneself and the world are binding in principle, in law, in self-defense, in community, and as a sacred obligation of jihad….” [Document No. 31]
Quoting from the writings of some of the leading militant ideologues of modern Islamic extremism, the tract instructs Houston mosque-goers to form Islamic opposition groups to face “attacks from every materialistic ideology and system that threatens the existence of Islam as a global paradigm of thought and system of life.”
Because, it asserts, many Muslim countries are suffering either under “the oppression of non-believing occupiers,” or under the “brutality of an evil minority, which governs through the iron fist” and serves as the infidels’ local puppets, self-defense has become an imperative duty for all Muslims.
To underscore the hardships involved in defending and spreading Islam, the Saudi text cites Muslim Brotherhood radical leader Sayyid Qutb, advocating the building of an organized movement “of sufficient size and quality to carry on every level of Islamic work and also to handle unexpected situations and needs.”
The Saudi document quotes Qutb urging Muslims to join such movements, “[Believers] should realize that their self-value derives only from Islam, without which they are like animals or worse. They must know, however, that true honor can never be achieved unless they continue actively to involve themselves in the Islamic Movement. Those who remain in isolation will be in the Hellfire. Those who join in the Islamic Movement are joining themselves with honorable people.” [Document No. 31]
According to the text, the path of Islamic activism—sometimes a euphemism for jihad—“purifies and liberates a person and teaches one to be strong. It is a path of blessings and honor.” [Document No. 31]
Successful Islamic movements should liberate oppressed peoples, including of course Muslims, and the Saudi tract uses the term “taghut,” familiar among Islamists, to describe any power or system responsible for such oppression. Usually taghut is comprised of “those who worship the false gods of modernist and postmodernist cultures,” or those who adopt capitalist, socialist, communist, and other manmade systems, in whole or in part.
Again, the tract appeals to an authoritative voice, the fiery Hasan al-Banna, the extremist founder of the Muslim Brotherhood: “Our task in general is to stand against the flood of modernist civilization overflowing from the swamp of materialistic and sinful desires. This flood has swept the Muslim nation away from the Prophet’s leadership and Koranic guidance and deprived the world of its guiding light. Western secularism moved into a Muslim world already estranged from its Koranic roots, and delayed its advancement for centuries, and will continue to do so until we drive it from our lands. Moreover, we will not stop at this point, but will pursue this evil force to its own lands, invade its Western heartland, and struggle to overcome it until all the world shouts by the name of the Prophet and the teachings of Islam spread throughout the world. Only then will Muslims achieve their fundamental goal, and there will be no more ‘persecution’ and all religion will be exclusively for Allah….” [Document No. 31]
This passage is a distillation of Islamist extremism: an adversarial posture fueled by a conspiratorial outlook, the candid call to jihad against the West, and a recipe for openended struggle practiced beyond the borders of Dar Al-Islam in the heart of enemy territory.
The same Saudi-Wahhabi book [Document No. 31] also contains a detailed point-by-point plan for Texas Muslims to propagate Islam by following al-Banna’s tactics. These include: the incremental approach in thought and action, the maintenance of a low profile with maximum work and minimum publicity, a clear long-range strategy for ultimate victory, openness in activity but secrecy in organization, and guarding separation and spiritual autonomy in the midst of a hostile world.
On the gradualist approach, al-Banna is quoted explaining the steps in preparing to launch jihad. First there is dissemination of concepts and ideas “among the people through oratory and writing, civic action, and other practical methods.” Then comes the delicate task of identifying “good and reliable cadre to bear the burden of initiating and sustaining jihad.” And finally there is the execution where, “the stage is set for relentless combat and consistent effort to achieve the goals. This stage will weed out all but the most honest and sincere, both in their own commitment and in their obedience to the chain of command.”
Sayyid Qutb is quoted explaining how a vanguard of select Muslims must brave the environment of infidelity while remaining uncontaminated by it. This, says Qutb, will invariably have the psychological effect of a “feeling of isolation” as the Islamist pioneers insert themselves in an alien environment, but never become of it [Document No. 31].
The text continues that, once the da’wa (Islamic mission) becomes known, those bearing its message will be hated by everyone around them. This is the stage of preparation for declaring the da’wa and commencing the jihad. Al-Banna is quoted as saying even the so-called noted scholars of Islam will “look down upon your understanding of Islam and will not support your jihad.” He predicts that many tribulations await the committed Muslims as they prepare to engage in jihad for the sake of Allah. Those who are sincere in their faith and strong will endure to the end and succeed with Allah’s help.
This program for jihad, and the discipline required for its meticulous organization and execution, is totalitarian in character. It is also universal in its reach: “…it is active everywhere, in every country and throughout every society.” [Document No. 31]
In short, this text from Saudi Arabia is a training manual for jihad as it is contemplated by the Wahhabis.
Well, let’s give Mirza credit for having the courage of his convictions, I guess.
Another, who identified himself as Ali, called [Mirza] “a very decent person.”
“Just because you have a beard and you like to go hunting,” he said, “doesn’t mean that you are a terrorist.
No, of course not. Sorry to have jumped to conclusions. Nothing to see here, keep moving along…
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Sounds like the kind of nice and decent chap I’d be honored as having as a son in law. I need to get busy by getting married and have a daughter. By the time he’s paroled I’m sure one of my breed might find him interesting enough to wed as long as time spent in the hoosegow didn’t convince him to switch sides sexually. Who knows… If have a son, too, then I’ll have all the bases covered.
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Officials said France, Germany, Italy and Spain had agreed to remove restrictions on aiding other countries’ militaries in an emergency in Afghanistan. But the four nations will not be sending troops to regularly fight alongside the British, Canadian, Dutch and American forces on the front lines of battles with the resurgent Taliban in the south and east.
Tell me why NATO is relevant any more?
Now he likes guns, car bombs and the killing of innocent people that doesn’t believe as he does. Such a nice boy! His mother is surely proud of him.
How come nobody can believe this of a religious person? These two became religious fanatics who followed someone’s misinterpretation of their religious beliefs to a point where it was alright to kill and maim those who didn’t believe what they believed. Their outside appearance was obviously a front for what they really believed–non-believers must die!!!!!! Lucky for them they were in a country where they had religious freedom to believe this—something that one doesn’t have in the country of their origin!!!!!
And the press report GW wants to “loosen” visa requirements…
I tell you. I am very tired but not ready to give up the fight.
Well, it’s no big deal to liberals. They’ve condoned the killing 3,000 babies in (and partially out of) the womb every day of the year for the last 33 years right here in this country. It’s small wonder why there isn’t much that really upsets us anymore. The war in Iraq has lasted slightly longer than World War 2. We have had 3,000 deaths, That’s an average of 2 per day. During WW2 we averaged 214 deaths per day.
According to Bureau of Justice Crime Statistics
http://bjsdata.ojp.usdoj.gov/dataonline/Search/Crime/State/RunCrimeStatebyState.cfm
right here in our great State of Texas during the same amount of time from 2000 to 2004, we have 4,961 murders (NOT including negligent homicide). Perhaps it’s time to pull out of Texas. You’d just love to see the statistics nationwide. Obviously we’re in a civil war here. Most of the murders occur in cities run primarily by Democrats. We should pull out of those cities. Those people are not like us, and they will never live in peace with each other.
The headline is not quite accurate. It reads:
“He liked puppies, and sunshine, and lollipops”
Should be:
“He liked to torture puppies, avoid sunschine, and pop women named Lolly”
And lollipops, too!! He must be a niiicceeee terrorist wannabe!!After all, this is the religion of peace, they’ve told us repeatedly……..!!
These f___ing people are ALWAYS at the center of every problem around the world, they are nothing more than disingenious liars, working to decieve and misrepresent everything they are REALLY about.
#$7 PBF
“they are nothing more than disingenious liars, working to decieve and misrepresent everything they are REALLY about.”
Why, that makes them sound just like politicians!!
Sounds like we need to unleash the ultimate weapon against the Islamists…the I.R.S. Nobody escapes them ever.
#9…don’t hold your breath for the I.R.S. to be unleashed. They have too many audits to do on Americans who tirelessly pay taxes.
Bloodthirsty moon-god worshippers that follow a prophet who was a murderous, camel thieving pedophile… IMHO
fasternu — Why don’t you tell us what you “really” think of Islam?
I think it has been demostrated that the world would be a much better place without Islam.
Unfortunatley, they exist and their goal is force everyone in the world to act as they believe you should act. They are willing to use any method to obtain their goal. If we do not want them to be successful, we must now confront and defeat these terrorist.
But I am willing to be listen to and be proved wrong by one of them…. waiting…..
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I “really” believe that Mohammid emerged from the ass of a camel to wreak havoc and destruction on earth and young boys who cross his path. What kind of a religion worhips someone like that?
Mohammid: From camel’s ass to your neighborhood in 2000 years! All right!
I understand the Imams have called for Muslims to boycott US Airways. I wish they would expand this and boycott all the airlines in the U.S.
fasternu — They will not be able to prove you wrong, because you are right. I am so tired of hearing the religion was hyjacked by radicals. It is an evil religion.
Quicksilver I think you are right. This religion was founded on the principal of hatred for other religions and submission or murder of their followers and dictatorial rule over all the other followers. The moderates in this religion is a new phenomenon that won’t gain much traction until they have their own equivalent of the Protestant revolution within their own ranks. Saved by grace through faith not by deeds or money. Setting yourself up for a murderous Jihad is the equivalent of buying salvation from the Pope for $50.00.
So, let me get this straight. You’re posting a story (that links to a paper regularly denigrated on these forums) about a guy who has been accused, but convicted of nothing so far? I thought in this country, we were innocent until proven guilty. Is this no longer the case?
Not only that, most (if not all) of the excerpts from the Chron read about radical Islamic dogma. Kinda like citing Sodom and Gomorrah and other radical punishments(for minor dogmatic infractions) listed in the bible with reference to a christian farmer arrested for having diesel fuel, fertilizer, and a gun.
What’s even more appalling is the people who call Islam the religion of terror. Obviously, these people have forgotten about the crusades, the colonization of the Americas in the name of Christianity, or the rise of the Third Reich in Jesus name.
I also love the comments about jail being appropriate for this guy because of his religious beliefs. The predominantly Christian US is ranked #8 in terms of most crimes per capita. The highest ranking predominantly Islamic country Tunisia, is #40 on that list.
Christianity is just as unforgiving and evil as Islam, if not more so. It’s just amazing how thinly veiled the racism is on this site. Is there a LST store where I can get my white duncecap shape hood and robe?
Crimes per capita is a straw-man at best, seeing as how something has to be: A: illegal and B: reported for it to be considered a crime. an honor killing doesn’t count under their rules, neither does a rape that a woman fails to report because if she did she’d be stoned to death for adultery because she can’t find four people to testify to the rape on her behalf. or a little girl that has her clitoris cut off with a piece of dirty broken glass and her genitals sewn up to the point she has to have surgery just to be able to have sex with her husband who just happens to be twice to three times her age and she just happens to be still a child and just one of many other child brides this one guy has. oh, and her family sold her into marriage/sex slavery for money.
Yeah. Islam has a whole lot going for it….
That’s absurd.
Adolf Hitler spoke those words on 7/11/41.
20 bornincolorado
Funny, you have to go back hundreds of years to show “Christian” murders (which were instigated by Islam invading the holy land killing in the name of Allah…) but,…. Just last week 666 people were killed by these peaceful people…
It’s easy to condemn the Catholic Church for it spreading their religion through warfare, but the muslims get a pass????
A couple of FACTS:
More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined
Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years.
More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland.
19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years.
List of Islamic Terror Attacks from
First Eight Months of 2006
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2006.htm
PS:
The gratuitous Nazi slur (used by ‘ignernt liberals’ when they have nothing to say but must bump their gums together) is incorrect. The hierarchy of the Third Reich were Pagans. They were into Nordic Mysticism.
while using a variant of the christian cross as his logo and belonging to the national socialist party.
You guys really think “racist!” is the ultimate weapon, don’t you? Can you identify a single racially-related comment in this post or its comments?
#20 — born –
You ask if there is an LST store where you can buy your white hood and robe. I assume you are making a reference to the KKK. Do you think the KKK supports Jewish people?
Quicksilver, you could’ve just asked “Do you think”
20
It’s not about a RACE, but RELIGION, one whose ethos is to destroy those that do not agree, like liberalism.
If you are going to insult someone, use a good insult. Say something like:
“You’re so ugly, when you were born they put tinted windows on your incubator.”
Don’t just be lazy and say “RACIST”. Be creative. C’mon use that (insert creator of your choice) given brain of yours to beeyoch slap someone verbally. You can do it!
Kettle, meet po-, I mean, Rorschach.
The same conditions exist in the US. There are plenty of non-illegal crimes taking place in the US. Prostitution in Nevada. Torturing and harassing innocent civilians under the auspices of the unconstitutional PATRIOT act.
There are also plenty of unreported crimes in the Christian US. Thievery and Domestic abuse are two that readily come to mind. I’m also curious if blowing up abortion clinics and defacing mosques qualifies as terrorism for most of the posters on here. Or is that just doing God’s duty and these acts should be legalized in a nation based upon innate civilian freedom.
Yeah. Christianity has a whole lot going for it….
#22 Zilla…
“God the Almighty has made our nation. By defending its existence we are defending His work.” Adolf Hitler Spoke those words on 1/30/1945.
Hitler’s Nazi constitution in point #24 says:
The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession. It combats the Jewish-materialist spirit within and without us, and is convinced that our nation can achieve permanent health from within only on the principle: the common interest before self-interest.
How about a whole page of Hitler quotes that use Jesus and a Christian God as reason to kill 12 million?
http://www.nobeliefs.com/speeches.htm
So, let me see, you were saying the Nazis weren’t primarily fighting for Jesus?
Zilla, the racist comment would be this:
“In the past year, Qazi said, Mirza had developed an interest in hunting.”
“Hmm, hunting what? Jew?”
Or maybe this comment:
“Sounds like we need to unleash the ultimate weapon against the Islamists…the I.R.S. Nobody escapes them ever.”
You don’t see how that’s racist? Maybe if you replace Islamists with blacks and I.R.S. with lynchmob it becomes a little clearer.
#28…
“Muslims grew to believe that discriminatory exclusion based on race was fundamentally alien to the spirit of their faith. This is understandable, given that there is almost a logical connection between affirming the oneness of God and upholding the equality of human beings before Him.”
–Paul Hardy, M.A. (Oxon.) Ph.D (University of Chicago)
Therefore, separating Islam (religion) from Muslim (Race) is a futile effort.
The original point still stands that the posters here believe in persecution of people based on their Islamic beliefs. The posters defend their behaviour citing religious violence while ignoring the fact that their own religion has shed vastly larger rivers of blood.
Born — you know so little about real Christianity. You talk about Hitler. Have you ever heard of Corrie TenBoom? Where does Jesus tell anyone to kill for him? What happens to a Christian who converts to Islam? Nothing happens to a Christian who converts to Islam. What happens to a Muslim who converts to Christianity in an Islamic country?
#29, 30, 31
One glaring FACT, more than 95 percent of terrorist acts in the world today are being committed by Muslims in the name of Islam. The ultimate stated goal is to force every person in the world to convert to Islam or eliminate those who do not.
Personally I think that is RACIST.
#31 bornin….
My dad always told me “You can’t reason with a fool.” Your posts to this site prove his point. However, I will endevor to enlighten you.
The folks on this site aren’t “racist”. What they are is “realist” - which you, apparently, are not.
We read the proclaimations coming from Islam - and believe they mean what they say. They mean to take over our country - and install shiria law FORCING everyone to become followers of “the prophet.” Actually, they don’t want to stop with “the West.” They want the whole world!
This will also include you, you know. If they succeed in their “take over” you will be FORCED to kneel down and 1) embrace Islam i.e. Mohammed and all he taught; or 2) have your head chopped off!
Bad mouthing America and Christianity will not stop this wave of insanity. Being one of the librals who mindlessly spouts the nonsense you quote in your posts will not save you. (I’ll go into your concept of the “wrongs” done by America and Christianity in another post. I will say only that this is not the 16th, 17th or 18th century.)
Wake up, son. Take a GOOD look around you. Decide if you are going to take a stand - and be very careful about what you decide to stand for.
Socialist/Libral rhetoric sounds good - if you don’t take the trouble to work your way through the touchy/feely ideas and see it for what it is - total control of everyone else by a favored few - but in the long run it will not keep you head firmly attached to the rest of your body!
Thank GOD - and by God I mean the God of Abraham, Isaac and Joseph - there are enough people left in this country to value the freedoms so dearly bought - and willing to pay the price to preserve them!
You need to get your facts straight. “Muslim” is not a race. A Muslim is an adherent of the religion of Islam. Muslims come from a whole lot of ethnic backgrounds. A bunch of them are Arabs (Saudi, Iraq, Jordan), a bunch are Persians (Iran) and others are black (Nation of Islam, etc.)
One Voice
#34
Nicely said.
Yes, if you replace words to completely change the sentence’s meaning, you can indeed discover racism.
For example, take a look at this horribly racist sentence:
For lunch, I would like to have a turkey sandwich.
Just replace “lunch” with “fun”, “have” with “torture” and “turkey sandwich” with “Nicaraguan peasant” and it becomes racist!
Ditto, Neo!!
Good job One Voice, well stated!
Dear Bornwithheadupbutt,
I am quite sure we can take up a collection from the readers here to get you a ticket to the tolerant Muslim dominated country of your choice. Further if you can indicate a single country where athiesm has made things better, I am quite sure your ticket may be exchanged for that destination.
Love it or leave it jerk.
“A fool says in his heart there is no God.”
i.e. God does not believe athiests exist because he has put the knowledge that he is and that he desires communion in the heart of all. What we do with that knowledge destines so much about the rest of our lives it’s almost scarey.
Personally, agnostics I can stomache. People who claim to be athiests are like the guy under the freeway arguing with himself about who drank the last of the beer.
Hey Colorado man, the race card ain’t gonna cut it.
What a crock.
Are you refugee from DemUnderground?
#37 Zilla
Mmmmm… Nicaraguan peasant… does that come with chipolte sauce?
Zilla, you nailed it on that one! :))))
Seriously- One Voice well said.
Colorado man is quoting ‘dem liberal profs at da University! That’s the boy’s problem, he’s has his head filled with liberal mush.
Sweet heart, Dictators use peace loving talk to mask their intentions. Just like ol Mammoud. Their teaching even states it is ok to lie to an infidel, because they don’t count. And if it benefits your cause than okie dokie.
Hitler, used different religions as he progressed in power, but I believe is was Zoroastrian that got him to the ayrian race thing, which of course ultimately led to his obession.
Scoottx,
“Setting yourself up for a murderous Jihad is the equivalent of buying salvation from the Pope for $50.00.”
There you go again with your flawed view of history and complete misunderstanding of theology. It’s amazing to see that anti-Catholicism is alive and well among people such as Scoottx.
You need to back your diatribes with evidence.
Evidantly you know not what you speak.
YOu probably are referring to ‘indulgances’. These were not bought to forgive sins, these were acts of prayer and fasting to attain forgive sins and the purchase of indulgances were like prayer cards that other’s would pray so as to receive salvation.
One more uninformed and lapsed Christian straightened out.
NEXT!
Rorschach,
The Nazi’s were into the occult which was supplemented by racial superiority theory. German scientets, anthropologists, and archeologists were sent all over Indian, Tibet, and China searching for the origins of the Master Race, ie, Arians (part of the Caucasoid strand from western Asia).
Arians originially came from the Caucusus Mountains (where the Chechens are now) and went into India through Jammu & Kashmir (where Pakistan and India have their dispute). These ‘Arians’ used occult practices with symbolism such as the swastika. This has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity. Any resemblence is pure coincidental that it ‘looks like’ a crooked cross.
So by you implying “using a variant of the christian cross” is grossly misleading and leads to ignorant statements such as bornincolorados rant.
TRL3,
I need to correct you, it is 99% of all terrorist acts are committed by Muslims in the name of Allah.
BornInColorado,
The 20th century is the most bloody century in the history of humanity.
More people were murdered/killed in the 20th century than all previous centuries combined.
What were the causes?
10 million Jews and 10 million Christians killed by the Nazis. An occult based organization rejecting God.
40 million Soviet citizens under Joseph STalin to create a Communist Utopia. Communism is an atheist doctrine.
5 million Cambodians killed by Pol Pot to create a Communist Utopia. Communism is an atheist doctrine.
60 million Chinese killed by Mao Tse Tung to create a Communist Utopia. Communism is an atheist doctrine.
33 million Americans killed by abortion doctors to create a liberal utopia. Liberalism promolgating in the promotion of man is better than God.
All these people killed by unGodly creeds, doctrines, social movements, and liberal ideas to promote the idea of a Godless society.
Religion has never killed more people, Liberalism has.
May God have mercy on your soul.
I’m lost what have the Wahabist’s have to do with the Nazi’s have to do with murderous homicide bombers and the KKK thrown in?
Oh, and the Chronicle too….
#48
Eric,
Check out Hansar al Islam.
The Hansar holocaust visited on Christians in the Balkans.
#35
Matt,
Don’t forget the Indonesia / Malaysia area, totally different race background and more Muslim than anywhere else.
Terrorists are trying to kill us.
Never forget.
EricPJohnson,
I don’t know, they all want to kill you?
Tito,
I just was wondering where Colorado was coming from, strange and glaring to throw Hilter in, then the KKK, and we are talking about Wahabist who both those organizations hated as well.
The fact that the enormous amount of evidence that is needed to bring people up on charges was completely glossed over by this guy from Colorado
And surveys have shown that 100% of people likely to commit terrorist attacks in the middle east do not like us - I know living here in a strict Shria country this may not be a great statement to make but - I’m going out on a limb and making the connection.
EricPJohnson,
My bad. Wasn’t sure where you were coming from.
Good points though.
Nat, daaaaling. I think it is:
TERRORISTS WANT TO KILL US…JUST BECAUSE…NEVER FORGET!
Do you know what happens when a Muslim converts to Christianity? Well, in Tunisia, where I was, they are beaten by the father and kicked out into the streets. Disowned forever. Neighbors shun them, and do NOT take them in, or care for them, lest they get ostracized.
If it is a woman, then she is also beaten by her brothers, in addition to her father.
And Tunisia is the nost moderate Muslim country. In others, death follows the beatings….
Oh, that’s right, the Crusades. Yeah, I guess that equalizes everything, right?
I swear, you can always spot a dumbass liberal when they bring up “The Crusades” and “Hitler.” I think they know little of both…
Thunderhawkk has spoken.