HPV: How Perry Voiced his opinion
by David Benzion · 02/05/2007 10:50 amEdd Hendee and Pat Gray can carp and moan on the radio at Gov. Rick Perry all morning long if they want to, but the simple fact is that adding Gardasil to the cocktail of vaccines mandated for Texas schoolchildren was discussed and promoted during last year’s gubernatorial campaign.
Courtesy The Daily Texan, 9/28/06:
Democratic gubernatorial candidate Chris Bell said he wants to ensure that all girls in Texas are vaccinated at the age of 11 or 12 to prevent cervical cancer and other sexually transmitted diseases, in a conference call Wednesday.
The Federal Drug Administration approved Gardasil, the first vaccine developed to prevent cervical cancer and genital warts due to the Human Papilloma Virus on June 8 after six months of evaluation, according the FDA Web site.
Gardasil is nearly 100 percent effective against four strands of HPV: types 16 and 18, which cause 70 percent of cervical cancers, and against types 6 and 11, which cause 90 percent of genital warts, according to the FDA.
“There is no denying that the vaccine works,” Bell said. “Now a decision needs to be made about how and where we can provide the vaccine for everyone.”
Bell said he wanted the vaccine to be added to the list of vaccinations required of children in Texas schools, along with vaccines for measles and tetanus.
… Gov. Rick Perry believes parents need to have the authority to decide if their minor daughter receives a vaccination for cervical cancer, Perry campaign spokesman Ted Royer said.
If you are confused, I suspect you are not alone.
In actual fairness to Perry, my understanding is that his executive order includes provisions that will allow parents with “religious or philosophical” objections to have their daughters opt-out of the vaccination requirement.
So in that sense, parents do still “have the authority to decide,” although the burden is on them to opt out, not on others to “opt-in.”
Which probably makes sense from a public health perspective–my intuition tells me that parents with religious objections are less likely to produce daughters that need the vaccine, while “parents” who produce daughters that could most benefit from the vaccine are least likely to be responsible enough to “opt-in.”
But it all works to the benefit of Gardasil manufacturer Merck & Co., whose public affairs and lobbying team deserves a raise for a job well done.
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On the campaign trail, the One tRick Perry vocalized/believed anything that would get the conservative vote. After securing the election with that whopping 39% show of support, the Democrat spots/stripes on that leopard/zebra came shining thru. By the way, my offer to provide the 2×12 rail to run this guy out of Texas on is still on the table. Any takers?
What was the date on The Daily Texan piece?
Looks like 9/28/06 to me.
well he made the cnbc news with htis crap!
#1
I’ll bring the tar and feathers.
I think I’ll bring some burnt-orange spray paint too, just for fun.
date added on front page
How fortunate we are to live in a time and place that our children can be vaccinated against deadly diseases. If there was a vaccine that would prevent my sons from contracting a disease that had the potetial to one day take their life, I would be at the doctor’s office today getting that shot for them. What is the uproar about? Why are we not more upset that is necessary to force parents to get proper vaccinations for their children?
A properly raised young lady can, unfortunately, be exposed to an STD. She can fall in love, marry and do all that is right and good. Her parents can approve of the young man and send them off in style to live happily ever after. However, that nice young man might bring his sweet young wife and STD. Why not vaccinate that young woman just in case prince charming turns out to be a louse?
Mom and Dad want to protect her from anything that could be harmful. They may not be able to protect her heart from being broken, but why further punish her by denying that sweet child the miracle of modern medicine to protect her body.
It happens.
#7 Five words: It’s not the government’s job.
Perry has been asked to withdraw his order by “an influential senator and close ally,” State Senator Jane Nelson of Flower Mound.
Perry asked to rescind HPV order
Onevote #7
To make it available is wonderful. The government FORCING me I have to take it is BULLDUNG.
How dare the government mandate the vaccination of a vaccine to which not enough research, trials and studies have been completed?
Why is the outrage not directed at the problem - that if not forced by the government, a number of parents would not bother to do what is good for their children. And that goes for ALL vaccines. What a shame that without a law requiring them to do so many parents would not have their children protected from disease.
OneVote, you seem to be misunderstanding Perry’s order. It doesn’t legalize a vaccine that would otherwise be unavailable.
It mandates the vaccine.
You’d have that option without Perry’s order. Instead, now you don’t have an option.
You’re assuming that a mandatory $360 vaccine, to protect against a virus that’s not easily transmissible, is “proper.” And yet, you haven’t produced one scintilla of evidence (or even an argument) to support that.
That’s an appeal to emotion, and it’s an utterly irrelevant one. If Mom and Dad want to get the vaccine for Peggy Sue, they can. No one is “denying” medicine to anyone.
Why not have mandatory Little League, celery sticks and nondiscriminatory bedtime stories, enforced under penalty of law?
I think we are arguing on the same side. I don’t think vaccines should be mandatory. I don’t want the govt telling me what to do in raising my kids. But rather than ranting at the govt, I am asking why we are all not more upset that people have kids and won’t do what is right so we have laws to force them to. I don’t WANT mandatory parenting rules. I don’t WANT anyone to pay a fortune for a vaccine that they do not want their child to have just because the govt says to do it.
Several arguments against this vaccine centered on a chaste girl not needing that sort of protection. The most virtuous young lady in town may someday wish her parents had insisted she be protected.
I AM in agreement with all of you that we do not want to be legislated into vaccinating our childrent in this manner.
But do not lose sight of what we are talking about here.
Imagine raising your grandchildren after your daughter’s death from cervical cancer. Tell those grandchildren that you stood up to the govt and did not have their mother, your daughter, vaccinated for an STD because she didn’t need that vaccine and they had no right to force you to spend the $360 to do it. Be sure to tell them that you made a good argument against big government, got a lot of people behind you and changed a law.
# 7 - Have you noticed how many new drugs have been removed from the market when unpredicted side effects developed. This drug hasn’t been tested long term and I don’t want my granddaughter to be a guina pig.
onevote
How about I send someone to your house to tell you how to live every second of your life according to what I think is the way to live.
# 15 - Cervical cancer is detected with regular pap smears.
One Vote: Think this through… Please re=read Matt’s #14’s post. Where will it stop?
Thanks for the date addition. That helps the perspective a bunch.
Onevote - I have to disagree with your opinion that getting the vaccine is the “right” thing to do. There hasn’t been enough research to see what the possible detrimental side effects are long-term. There are already noted side effects such as seizures, etc. And with the recent medical research showing some autism being caused by vaccines, I would not get my child anything new without proper and thorough research - and then only if I thought it was necessary. This is the same reason I refuse to get the flu shot - there are too many unknowns and toxins in the shot to play around with. And I have only had the flu 2 times in 49 years. I know of people who annually get the shot and still get the flu many times over my rate.
Again, a thoughtless appeal to emotion. Your comment was the rhetorical equivalent of a sappy AT&T long-distance commercial.
But now you’re tossing out another logical fallacy: false alternatives. You suggest that there are only two courses of action:
1. Mandatory HPV vaccines, or
2. Lots of orphans.
That is, of course, nonsense. There are a whole lot of other ways to prevent cervical cancer deaths including early detection (Pap smears), circumcision treatment, hygiene and abstinence, to name a few.
By the way, I’d like to point out the scope of the problem. It’s not like cervical cancer is killing millions. It’s not the top cancer among women. It’s not even the top gynecological cancer, nor is it #2.
There are 9,710 new cases diagnosed annually in the U.S., and 3,700 deaths.
Assuming Texans get cervical cancer in proportion to the rest of the country, Texas has about 719 new cases of cervical cancer a year, with about 273 deaths.
You are more likely to be murdered in Houston than to be diagnosed with cervical cancer.
Oh, the shot has only been tested to last 4 1/2 years, by the way. Start saving your pennies.
One thing has come from this.
Merck got a mother load of free advertising.
Now go send your little girls down to the clinic so they can get a nice dose of mercury.
Tar and feathers is too good for gov mofo prick ferry.
Merck got the equivalent of the Superbowl half time spot and paid zilch.
God Bless America.
Now go send your little girls down to the clinic so they can get a nice dose of mercury.
Speaking of irrelevant appeals to emotion:
How much nanny-state are you willing to tolerate? Just smile and give the nice government man your papers… it’s for your own good. I prefer a bit more choice over what’s done for me and my children’s good, thank you.
This is just another example of where the Republican party has gone horribly wrong. Can you imagine any self-respecting conservative of the Reagan era endorsing this crap? If social conservatism can’t learn its limitations, it will do the Republican party in for good.
Play through that scenario in your mind. Let’s say social conservatives, through actions like Perry’s, erode their base to the point that Democrats begin coasting to easy victories (not unlike the ‘06 “thumping”). What happens then? Social conservatives won’t be happy. Libertarians won’t be the least bit happy.
But hey, I’m sure there are social conservatives out there who would love to get on board with Hillary’s plan to take oil profits and put them in a strategic energy fund. That’s not out of line with social conservatism, is it? How about her health care ideas? Sound good to you? It’s not surprising to learn that many social conservatives are former southern Democrats. Maybe they’re just getting back to their roots.
I’m curious - does insurance pick up the cost of the vaccine yet? If the state mandates the vaccine - how much pressure will that put on the insurance companies to cover the cost of the vaccine?
I’m thankful that my two daughters are young enough that I can wait for the fall-out to settle. The long-term effects, if any, to be identified, and insurance to pick up part of the tab. Because, mandate or no, I will have my children vaccinated for HPV. I only wish it had been available 16 years ago before I contracted HPV (through contact, but not intercourse. You also cannot guard against HPV with a condom.) And before I had two biospies and two painful procedures against pre-cervical cancer.
Should it be mandatory - no, definitely not at this stage of the game. Maybe later? I like the idea of “opt-in” instead of “opt-out”. Could the state say it’s “highly recommended” (though not required).
Of course - the state also keeps their little dbases of vaccinations. The pediatrician nurses always give me a dirty look when I refuse to sign the paperwork allowing them to enter my children in that state dbase.
This is why I am dead set against vaccinations and do not trust the gov or their buds…the pharm companies.
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/02/17/cdc_knew_mercury_in_vaccines_induces_autism.htm
They rushed vioxx to the market just like they rush everything else to the market. We are used as living experiments.
No thanks.
By the time I got around to doing the research at the FDA website, Matt spelled out the facts & logistics brilliantly at #23 so I have nothing Einsteinian to add to this matter other than it’s more government silliness.
I wonder what will happen in 10 to 15 years if this vaccine proves to cause infertility. Imagine telling your daughter that she’ll never have children of her own because of a shot you made her take.
AT NO TIME IN NO WAY DOES THE GOVERNMENT have the RIGHT to mandate anything that does not affect the infrustructor, safety, or borders of this country. This is not a socialist nanny state. Our constitution has once again been erroded.
# 7 - No state has the right to force me or my child into government mandated medications or vacines. It is unconstitutional.
Gov. Rick Perry believes parents need to have the authority to decide if their minor daughter receives a vaccination for cervical cancer, Perry campaign spokesman Ted Royer said.
He lied once again - but why would anyone be suprised.
No insurance company that I checked today will pay for this vacine. So is the state going to use MY money to pay for some poor under privledged kid?
Also the cost is 360 per shot, but each girl will require 3 shots. so we are looking at over 1000.00 per girl, not 360.00
The Merek study PER MEREK was only 6 months, no one was followed for 20 - 30 years to see what would happen to these girls.
I posted this in open comments , but it is needed here
twocute64001 Says:
February 5th, 2007 at 9:09 am
Here is a SIDE EFFECT analysis of MEREKS, latest cash cow. Here is what perry is trying to do to out little girls.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
February 1, 2007
HPV Vaccine Mandates Risky and Expensive
Vaccine Safety Group Finds Serious Reactions, High Costs
Vienna, Virginia - The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), the nation’s leading vaccine safety and informed consent advocacy organization, is urging state legislatures to investigate the safety and cost of mandating Merck’s HPV vaccine (GARDASIL) for all pre-adolescent girls before introducing legislation amending state vaccine laws. In an analysis of reports made to the federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) since the CDC’s July 2006 universal use recommendation for all young girls, NVIC found reports of loss of consciousness, seizures, joint pain and Guillain-Barre Syndrome. In a separate evaluation of costs for young girls being vaccinated in private pediatrician offices, NVIC discovered that parents living in the Washington, D.C. area will be paying between $500 and $900 to have their daughters receive three doses of GARDASIL.
“GARDASIL safety appears to have been studied in fewer than 2,000 girls aged 9 to 15 years and it is unclear how long they were followed up. [1] VAERS is now receiving reports of loss of consciousness, seizures, arthritis and other neurological problems in young girls who have received the shot,” said NVIC President Barbara Loe Fisher. “At the same time, parents who take their daughters to private pediatricians are going to be shocked to find that they will be paying two to three times the widely publicized $360 cost for the three-dose series. The cost is going to break the pocketbooks of parents and break the banks of both insurance companies and taxpayers, when the reality is that almost all cases of HPV-associated cervical cancer can be prevented with annual pap screening of girls who are sexually active.”
Between July 2006 and January 2007, there have been 82 reports of adverse events filed with VAERS following receipt of GARDASIL by girls and boys ranging in age from 11 to 27 years. Reaction reports have come from 21 states, including Virginia and the District of Columbia. All but three of the reports were for adverse events which occurred within one week of vaccination and more than 60 percent occurred within 24 hours of vaccination.
“The most frequent serious health events after GARDASIL shots are neurological symptoms,” said NVIC Health Policy Analyst Vicky Debold, RN, Ph.D. “These young girls are experiencing severe headaches, dizziness, temporary loss of vision, slurred speech, fainting, involuntary contraction of limbs (seizures), muscle weakness, tingling and numbness in the hands and feet and joint pain. Some of the girls have lost consciousness during what appears to be seizures.” Debold added “The manufacturer product insert should include mention of syncopal episodes, seizures and Guillain-Barre Syndrome so doctors and parents are aware these vaccine adverse responses have been associated with the vaccine.”
VAERS reports also indicate the doctors are administering GARDASIL to girls and women at the same with Tdap, DT, meningococcal (Menactra), hepatitis A, and other vaccines, even though the Merck product insert states that, with the exception of hepatitis B vaccine, “Co-administration of GARDASIL with other vaccines has not been studied.”[2] There is no publicly available information about how many of the 9 to 15 year old girls in Merck’s pre-licensure clinical trials received GARDASIL simultaneously with hepatitis B vaccine.
Although approximately half of all families in the U.S. select a pediatrician in private practice to provide their children routine care, including vaccinations, children can receive government subsidized reduced cost or free vaccinations in public health clinics through the Vaccines for Children program if they cannot afford to pay for vaccinations administered by private pediatricians. NVIC’s survey of four private pediatric practices in the Virginia suburbs of Washington, D.C. found that parents could be charged anywhere from $525 to $930 for three GARDASIL shots depending upon whether the child was a first-time or current patient. Costs for the vaccine plus an administration fee ranged from $140 to $275 per shot with an additional office visit charge that fluctuated between $35 and $185 depending upon whether a nurse or doctor saw the child.
HPV is the most common sexually transmitted infection in the U.S. and most persons naturally clear the infection from the body without symptoms. [3] However, many years of chronic HPV infection is associated with a higher risk of pre-cancerous changes in the cervix that can lead to cancer unless diagnosed and treated promptly. High risk factors for chronic HPV infection include smoking, long-term use of oral contraceptives and co-infection with HIV, herpes and chlamydia. [4] There has been a more than 70 percent drop in cervical cancer deaths in American women since the 1950’s due to routine pap smears and nearly all cervical cancers can be prevented with regular pap smear screening and treatment. [5]
In its product manufacturer insert, Merck states that “Vaccination does not substitute for routine cervical cancer screening. Women who receive GARDASIL should continue to undergo cervical cancer screening per standard of care.” Merck also states that “The duration of immunity following a complete schedule of immunization with GARDASIL has not been established.”
For more information about HPV infection and GARDASIL safety, including NVIC’s five-page report on GARDASIL adverse event reports to VAERS as well as a direct link to VAERS reports, go to NVIC’s website at http://www.NVIC.org.
Can someone just turn off the lights?
Texas, because of predator Perry’s ruling by fiat, just has confirmaed that it is no longer different from the other nondescript States.
twocute
From what I’ve read, the shots are $120 each for 3 shots, totaling $360.
#8
You da man, malcolm.
All those inquiries from out-of-state recruiters have a whole new look to them now.
#36 Huh?
#37
Meaning I would be more likely to consider taking a job out-of-state because of Perry’s foolishness, in order to escape it. I’ve already got a son with problems that probably stem from the steady stream of vaccinations he got as a baby/toddler - I’d like to spare my daughter from the ramifications of Perry thinking that he is her father, and not I.
GriffLea
#38
Okay, I get it now. Good luck to you!
I’m sorry, should have been Griffthlea! Skinny fingers! No insult intended!