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  1. I Am Iron Man on March 5th, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    I saw this on Drudge, she faked a Southern Accent at the same speech…. Do they have no shame???

    http://www.ifilm.com/profile/breitbart/video/2829104

    “I don’t feel no-ways tired…..”

    She tried so hard to sound like something out of a Tennessee Williams play…. Will she get an award from Hollywood?

  2. tedtam on March 5th, 2007 at 12:09 pm

    Hillary speaks “southern” to ingratiate herself to the crowd; she always tries to mirror her surroundings…I wonder what happens when she stands in front of a mirror? Does it melt? Or just crack?

  3. Robert on March 5th, 2007 at 12:12 pm

    Bill “tinkered” with Hillary and look what the American public got: HELLary!!!!

    Can there be anybody less suited to be an American President than Hellary whose judgement has to be called into question. She was fooled by the President over the Iraq war. She was fooled by Bill about all those bimbos. She fooled herself into thinking she was presidential material.

  4. whitecap on March 5th, 2007 at 12:30 pm

    #1) McFly, I mean Rusty, um, I mean ‘Iron’ Man, Herr presidente is from Maine and he’s been faking his southern accent for years. Pot, meet kettle.

    The initial post and justification for disapproving of Hillary is stupid. You can just as easily look at it from the other side. Is tinkering with with one of God’s creations (fetuses and stem cells) inherently more evil than tinkering with another (nature and climate)? Since they are all of God’s hand, no.

    This is in no way endorsing Hillary for president. I wouldn’t have anyone who let her husband publicly walk all over her reputation into the oval office.

  5. EricPJohnson on March 5th, 2007 at 12:34 pm

    Ohhhh man and I’m overseas missing this crap…..

  6. EricPJohnson on March 5th, 2007 at 12:41 pm

    She’s going to rely on the votes of strangers…

    We should all be sending how to speak southern

  7. Adee on March 5th, 2007 at 12:46 pm

    Ah, Pres. Bush 43 grew up in West Texas, Midland-Odessa, not Maine.

  8. Tito on March 5th, 2007 at 12:55 pm

    She certainly has no shame.

  9. little mike on March 5th, 2007 at 12:57 pm

    Mirroring - a basic NLP technique.

  10. The Dude on March 5th, 2007 at 1:02 pm

    Is tinkering with with one of God’s creations (fetuses and stem cells) inherently more evil than tinkering with another (nature and climate)?

    Your assertion assumes that man has an effect on climate change (i.e. “tinkering”). Such a causal relationship has not been established to the satisfaction of the scientific community. Man definitely does have an effect on killing fetuses through abortion, whether you agree with the morality of it or not. You’re comparing apples and bowling balls whitecap.

  11. The Dude on March 5th, 2007 at 1:29 pm

    Herr presidente is from Maine and he’s been faking his southern accent for years.

    Are you sure about that?

    Born in New Haven, Connecticut, Bush was the first child of George H. W. Bush and his wife Barbara Bush. His paternal ancestors emigrated from Somerset in the West Country of England in the seventeenth century. Bush’s parents moved from Connecticut to Texas when he was two years old. He was raised in Midland and Houston, Texas, with his four siblings, Jeb, Neil, Marvin, and Dorothy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush

  12. Shannon on March 5th, 2007 at 1:48 pm

    Any moron knows GW’s accent is not an affectation,
    especially us Texas-born morons. There are several distinctive Texas accents. Mine is the really dumba$$-sounding southeast Texas type. W’s is definitely a derivative of the NW-W Texas type.

  13. whitecap on March 5th, 2007 at 3:20 pm

    #7) & #11) Andover, Yale, and went AWOL (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/030411.html) to go to Harvard. It’s arguable that he was raised in Texas. You could also convincingly argue that with all the time Hillary spent in Arkansas, she has just as much right to a southern accent.

    As for #10) The Dude, what does it take to convince you man has a causal effect on climate change? Hell, even Exxon, BP, and a automobile manufacturers even admit it now. Does smoking not cause cancer either?

    1) The NOAA - “There is no scientific debate on this point” (http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html)
    2) NASA - “How Man Is Changing the Climate and What It Means for Life on Earth” (http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2006/2006_Hansen.pdf)

    We could argue about the cause/effect relationship of humanity to global warming all day. On the flipside of the coin, some whiny liberal and blind conservative could argue about when during pregnancy life starts all day.

    Again, the reasoning behind the dislike of Hillary is silly.

    As I said, before, I don’t endorse or condone Hillary by any means. As a matter of fact, I think her actions regarding the PATRIOT act, Iraq war, participation in Democratic party nepotism, and her willingness to engage in political infighting in DC, have all been atrocious. Let alone the fact that she didn’t kick Bill to the curb after lying to not only her, but their family, and above all, the American people.

  14. I Am Iron Man on March 5th, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    “The initial post and justification for disapproving of Hillary is stupid.”

    BZ, you should have gotten pus-head’s approval before posting this topic on YOUR OWN blog!

    Well, Mcweiner, Uh, I mean pus-head…. I guess W’s Maine accent should’ve worn off by now, since he was TWO when he lived there. Hillary was definitely FAKING her accent. Did you actually listen to it? Or just go all half-cocked and start typing? Pot, meet hookah.

    I like the “Herr Presidente”, are you calling him a National Socialist? Wow, THAT’S original! You’re quicker than an out of date microwave burrito through a goose’s gastrointestinal tract. In lieu of an intelligent comment, you have to call a name. Typical left-nut debate tactic. Now, to redeem yourself and look semi-intelligent you’ll have to quote some obscure author.

    “Is tinkering with with one of God’s creations (fetuses and stem cells) inherently more evil….”

    Yes, killing babies is evil no matter how you try and justify it.

  15. twocute64001 on March 5th, 2007 at 3:30 pm

    # 13 - I just gotta say

    THANK YOU for posting what I was feeling, and doing it so very well.

  16. Wino on March 5th, 2007 at 3:59 pm

    #13 Ferrus Boiler

    Do you really think a liberal has any idea what “Bravo Zulu” means? It’s like asking him which end of the gun the bullet comes out of or how old a baby has to be before it is worth saving.

    You’re wasting your time, and feeding the trolls. You should’ve just called Godwin’s Law on him, and let it go.

  17. I Am Iron Man on March 5th, 2007 at 4:03 pm

    Yeah, but… ya gotta squeeze a white head.

  18. whitecap on March 5th, 2007 at 4:08 pm

    #7) & #11) Andover, Yale, and Harvard. It’s arguable that he has decent claim to a southern accent. You could also convincingly argue that with all the time Hillary spent in Arkansas, she has just as much right to a southern accent. But jeez, it’s an accent, who cares??

    As for #10) The Dude, what does it take to convince you man has a causal effect on climate change? Heck, even Exxon, BP, and automobile manufacturers even admit it exists.

    1) The NOAA - “There is no scientific debate on this point”

    2) NASA - “How Man Is Changing the Climate and What It Means for Life on Earth”

    3) USGS, NWS, UCS, and on and on… with groups of not only American but International scientific organizations. (HAL ate my links)

    We could argue about the cause/effect relationship of humanity to global warming all day. On the flipside of the coin, some whiny liberal and blind conservative could argue about when during pregnancy life starts all day. Again, this reasoning behind the dislike of Hillary is silly.

    As I said, before, I don’t endorse or condone Hillary by any means. As a matter of fact, I think her actions regarding the PATRIOT act, Iraq war, participation in Democratic party nepotism, and her willingness to engage in political infighting in DC, have all been atrocious. Let alone the fact that she didn’t kick Bill to the curb after lying to not only her, but their family, and above all, the American people.

    #13) Rusty Iron Man, calling our president herr presidente is a call out to the executive branch power grab, and federal government growth that has gone on during “herr presidente’s” terms in office. Get a sense of humor, I can call him what I like. I call Jesus a ‘Jew Carpenter’ too, do you want to crucify me now?

    You call me a left-nut debater yet, I cannot fail to see how you so easily participate in the same tactic. I also ask, “What cogent argument or points of debate did you put in your post?”

    I never said killing babies wasn’t evil. I said the dislike of someone for believing one of “God’s creations” is more important than a different set of “God’s creations” is silly. Especially when looked at in the light that we shouldn’t be tinkering with ANY of God’s creations.

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  19. I Am Iron Man on March 5th, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    Where’s the obscure author quote?

  20. whitecap on March 5th, 2007 at 4:16 pm

    rusty, I didn’t need one for any kind of rebuttal. You didn’t provide any points needed to cite an obscure author for.

  21. I Am Iron Man on March 5th, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    Just emulating your first post tactic on this thread, and they way you introduced yourself the other day. You need to mellow out because you are going to stroke out man, woman whatever you are…
    You seem to be a hateful libnut that posts screechy rants. Try making a post without the vitriol and maybe it won’t be reciprocated. Don’t be a hater….

  22. Wino on March 5th, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    Like I said, no idea what “Bravo Zulu” means. I guess he’ll go to google now to find it online, so he can “prove” me wrong.

    What a waste of bandwidth!

  23. The Dude on March 5th, 2007 at 4:41 pm

    whitecap,

    The Dude, what does it take to convince you man has a causal effect on climate change?

    Proof. I’m not alone in my requirement either.

    http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=2f4cc62e-5b0d-4b59-8705-fc28f14da388

    To accept global warming as man-made without proof is ludicrous. Because oil companies and automobile manufacturers have accepted it for political convenience doesn’t mean I have to do the same. Likewise, NASA may have political reasons for buying it, but even within that organization I have seen debate over whether or not man is to blame.

    There has been more than ample doubt cast on the assertions of those who believe man is the cause of global warming. You can start here, and that is merely a start.

  24. Wino on March 5th, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    #23 The Dude

    Man! You just missed a perfect opportunity to pimp my blog! I want the T-Shirt back! I’ve been showing climatologists speaking out against “man-made” global warming for nearly a year.

    Of course, “scientists” (who are botanists and paleontologists and maybe medical researchers, who knows?) are “all in agreement” about the causal link. /sarc

  25. whitecap on March 5th, 2007 at 6:06 pm

    #21) Where in my postings has anything indicated I’m, liberal, or nuts?

    #22) Wino, please enlighten me. We’re all here to learn and debate no?

    #25) The Dude, as mentioned in my first post - “The scientific debate is over.”
    This is according to scientific agencies that are apolitical in nature. Even if you consider NASA political, how do you explain the plethora of other apolitical agencies claiming the same thing. NOAA, USGS, NWS, UCS… reasonable doubt has been thoroughly quashed and only unreasonable doubt remains on this subject. It’s too bad the wacko media continues to publish non-peer endorsed science thus, keeping this debate alive long past it’s expiration date.

    The junkscience.com link is a website run by a CATO institute employee. He has never published original research in peer-reviewed scientific journals. The other guy, he’s obviously the dentist who recommends bubble-yum to prevent cavities, a source of unreasonable doubt.

    I don’t want this to get into an argument about global warming. The original point was “Don’t dislike Hillary because of something petty, or for qualities you exhibit in your own beliefs (EG beholding one of God’s creations to be more important than another). Dislike Billary for her qualities which are bad for the oval office.”

  26. southerntragedy on March 5th, 2007 at 6:08 pm

    Tsk! Tsk! You guys fall for stink bait all the time. DNFTT!!!

    Thanks again Hammie for turning me onto that Anarchist sight. Too bad my posts keep getting deleted over there. Seems none of them over there can even find women to “hook up” with!

    Anarchist Matchmaker
    Post your personal ad. Find a new love or a *sm*uck buddy. Get connected!

    Am I mistaken, or is every post in this forum is by males? In fact, they’re all by Straight/Bi Males seeking Females. That means it’s really not working out…

    Anarchist Matchmaker
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    http://www.infoshop.org/forums/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=39&sid=ced4e5ce1d107d7573e97d374b8290aa

    Sorry, off topic/ducks in shame

  27. southerntragedy on March 5th, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    Darn Hal! SMACK! Baaad boy. Cough it up!

  28. I Am Iron Man on March 5th, 2007 at 6:21 pm

    “Dislike Billary for her qualities which are bad for the oval office.”

    Like…. being dishonest…. faking an accent to play to the crowd, just ANOTHER example piling on.

    Today:
    Post#4
    #1) McFly, I mean Rusty, um, I mean ‘Iron’ Man, Herr presidente is from Maine and he’s been faking his southern accent for years. Pot, meet kettle.

    Ya start out name calling. You sound like a Kos kid…. You called 5 names in the first paragraph, meaning you have nothing to say… a liberal nutjob would do so. Also inferring Bush is a Nazi is a good indicator too.

  29. I Am Iron Man on March 5th, 2007 at 6:22 pm

    Like Wino said, Godwin’s law:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin’s_law

  30. whitecap on March 5th, 2007 at 7:03 pm

    #27) Honesty? In politics? I don’t think honesty is allowed in politics by definition. Let alone the fact that you seem shrill for judging someone’s honesty on something so petty as their ‘fake’ accent. I reiterate, hello pot, meet kettle. Honest politics, HA!

    Are you disagreeing with my reasons for calling Herr Presidente that name? The “Presidente” isn’t just tacked on there without meaning rusty. To clarify, ‘Herr’ is there to refer to his iron will and hawkish pro war stance, ‘Presidente’ is there to refer to the gross incompetence with which policy is implemented. Sorry if the pun sailed over your head.

    Just because call Herr Presidente that name and I think the he’s incompetent with (dis?)regard for so many aspects of domestic(our borders, curtailing of individual liberties, and education) policy hardly means I’m a leftist.

    With regards to your feelings about name calling. Your skin is thinner than a Liberal Granola Eating Vegan Bicyclist Hummer Hatin’ Hippie Nut Job. Since you’re so sensitive, shouldn’t you be out protesting some power plant or saving squrrels somewhere?

    You can invoke Godwin’s law if you like. I still have yet to see you offer a valid argument why tinkering with one of God’s creations is ok while tinkering with another is not.

  31. The Dude on March 5th, 2007 at 7:17 pm

    whitecap,

    You have thus far not proven that global warming is due to “tinkering”. You state that global warming is due to mankind as if it’s fact. It isn’t fact. Nobody else has proven the relationship either. We have lots of conjecture, but no proof. Whether you want a debate about global warming or not is immaterial. The debate exists.

    That the debate exists to the scale it does is evidence that man-made global warming theory is just that: theory. Contrast that with one of my favorite examples: Ohm’s Law. We don’t hear much debate about Ohm’s Law, do we? Why is that whitecap?

    I’ll answer for you. It’s because it can repeatibly and accurately be demonstrated and measured beyond the shadow of a doubt that Ohm’s Law is fact. Man-made global warming cannot make such claims. You cannot make such claims. You can run from the debate all you want, but this is a question of fact versus conjecture. You have not established fact. Slinging around cutesy names or changing the subject won’t alleviate the fact that you are wrong.

  32. The Dude on March 5th, 2007 at 7:20 pm

    BTW, Wino was right in that I was remiss in giving him his props. He has been all over this here:

    http://houviews.blogspot.com/

    and here:

    http://www.fauxnews.org/blog/

  33. The Dude on March 5th, 2007 at 7:25 pm

    Getting back to the subject of Hillary’s “southern” accent, it’s pretty apparent that she’s putting it on for show. I haven’t heard her use it before. Was she suddenly afflicted with the southern flu?

    I’ve never heard G.W.B. speak in public where he didn’t have a southern accent. Of all the things in the world I could think of to criticize him about (and yes, I have a laundry list), faking a southern accent isn’t one of them.

  34. I Am Iron Man on March 5th, 2007 at 7:34 pm

    Whitehead…
    Yawn… nuttier than squirrel poop.

  35. The Dude on March 5th, 2007 at 7:56 pm

    Personal attacks are difficult and shouldn’t occur in a debate in a civilized society. I can only consider them from what they imply. They usually indicate a person or group is losing the debate. In this case, they also indicate how political the entire Global Warming debate has become. Both underline the lack of or even contradictory nature of the evidence.

    I am not alone in this journey against the prevalent myth. Several well-known names have also raised their voices. Michael Crichton, the scientist, writer and filmmaker is one of them. In his latest book, “State of Fear” he takes time to explain, often in surprising detail, the flawed science behind Global Warming and other imagined environmental crises.

    Another cry in the wildenerness is Richard Lindzen’s. He is an atmospheric physicist and a professor of meteorology at MIT, renowned for his research in dynamic meteorology - especially atmospheric waves. He is also a member of the National Academy of Sciences and has held positions at the University of Chicago, Harvard University and MIT. Linzen frequently speaks out against the notion that significant Global Warming is caused by humans. Yet nobody seems to listen.

    I think it may be because most people don’t understand the scientific method which Thomas Kuhn so skilfully and briefly set out in his book “The Structure of Scientific Revolutions.” A scientist makes certain assumptions and then produces a theory which is only as valid as the assumptions. The theory of Global Warming assumes that CO2 is an atmospheric greenhouse and as it increases temperatures rise. It was then theorized that since humans were producing more CO2 than before, the temperature would inevitably rise. The theory was accepted before testing had started, and effectively became a law.

    http://www.oism.org/news/

  36. The Dude on March 5th, 2007 at 8:00 pm
  37. Neocon on March 5th, 2007 at 8:42 pm

    The Dude and all

    Don’t feed the trolls. I thought you knew better. If you don’t feed them, they will (ocassionally) go away.

  38. Neocon on March 5th, 2007 at 8:43 pm

    Re my #37

    BTW, some are smarter than most and will recognize that if they aren’t being fed, they will go away. Some just have no sense.

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