If this girl’s problem is not addressed at her age, then the problem will escalate where she will be sent to prison as an adult. Race only becomes an issue if the teaching asst. is white and then the “race card” will automatically be played. But what about “black on black” crime? And what does a person say if that teaching asst. was your relative, she has rights too.

She rejected probation. Now she claims racism because a white girl plead out to arson and got probation. She commited a second degree felony. Punishable up to 20 yrs and a $10,000 fine. She was offered probationand rejected it. She rolled the dice and lost. I have no pity for her.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070328/D8O4S6AO0.html

“Dennis Eichelbaum, an attorney for the Paris school district, said the U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights has vindicated the district by finding no evidence of discrimination in three cases. Five other investigations remain open.

Creola Cotton is preventing the district from fairly defending itself by refusing to let the school district make her daughter’s entire record public, Eichelbaum said.

“Mrs. Cotton has been wrongfully attacking the character of the district,” Eichelbaum said. “She’s being disingenuous with regard to her daughter being an innocent child.”

Added Eichelbaum: “She’s playing a game.”

Prosecutors say they offered Shaquandra a plea agreement that would have reduced the felony charge to a misdemeanor and given her two years’ probation. But Creola Cotton rejected the plea on behalf of her daughter, prosecutors said”

What I care about is how the teacher’s aide is doing?

Big Jolly

Since you are a conservative, and since your position differs from the position taken by gritsforbreakfast no amount of reasonable explainations will help them understand your position.

They declared this to be a racial thing and in their minds this is now the way it is and all the facts disagreeing with their opinion does not matter.

I agree w/trl3

It’s already got the leftnut stamp of RAYSIZZIM on it and nothing will change their warped sense of right and wrong.

She just needs a hug and to have her self esteem lifted.

And HAL ate my other post…

“Dennis Eichelbaum, an attorney for the Paris school district, said the U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights has vindicated the district by finding no evidence of discrimination in three cases. Five other investigations remain open.

Creola Cotton is preventing the district from fairly defending itself by refusing to let the school district make her daughter’s entire record public, Eichelbaum said.

“Mrs. Cotton has been wrongfully attacking the character of the district,” Eichelbaum said. “She’s being disingenuous with regard to her daughter being an innocent child.”

Added Eichelbaum: “She’s playing a game.”

Prosecutors say they offered Shaquandra a plea agreement that would have reduced the felony charge to a misdemeanor and given her two years’ probation. But Creola Cotton rejected the plea on behalf of her daughter, prosecutors said.”

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070328/D8O4S6AO0.html

She commited a 2nd Degree Felony and was offered probation. Momma should blame momma. When you basically tell the judge and prosecutors to ‘eff off, what should you expect?

She got what momma asked for.

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Creola Cotton is preventing the district from fairly defending itself by refusing to let the school district make her daughter’s entire record public, Eichelbaum said.

How many times and how many years did this little angel get sent to an alternative school for violent behavior?

How do you pronounce Creola? Crayola?

Bigjolly, I think Headshaker ratted you out! He’s a ratfink and a pot stirrer!

One wonders, are there no lesser punishments our conservative friends might find appropriate?

Now that’s a nice one.

I thought it was a jury of her peers that convicted here and one judge that sentenced her.

So how do conservatives get the blame—assuming that there’s any to hand out?

Somebody IS prejudiced here, there is no doubt about that.

Maybe there is something to this after all:

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/28/surprise-columbia-thugs-wrist-slapped-for-rushing-minutemen-during-speech/

It’s a case where a bunch of white liberals got off with a slap on the wrist after assaulting a public speaker they claimed was a racist.

Its like this: 14-year-old girl shoves school district personnel. 14-year-old girl injures school district personnel in some way. 14-year-old girl is charged with the felony crime of assault on a public servant. 14-year-old girl is offered probation on a lesser, misdemeanor charge. 14-year-old girl and her mom tell judge basically to eff off, because they think she’s innocent/aren’t willing to accept responsibility for her actions. 14-year-old girl goes to jury trial, where she’s found guilty. Judge hits girl with indeterminate sentence as the law spells out for juvies. There’s nothing racist about this in any way.

If you think the punishment doesn’t fit the crime, write your representatives and get them to change the law. Period. End of Story.™

Maybe she IS innocent. Were there any witnesses?

Hmmmm…..

The plea deal looks good, unless you really are innocent.

Hmmmm…..

But she couldn’t be innocent, could she? Why? Because she’s a black future crackhead punk bully beotch according to some (not the word is not ALL) of those who DON’T know her personally. Oh, and I forgot, she’s all of that with NO RECORD.

Hmmmm…..

And you wonder why I shake my head™

The real crime is her being named Sahquanda. What does that mean? Did her mom get a Scrabble™ game and shake the bag up and pick some letters?

I tried to find out, but kept getting this:
No results found for names with meanings containing “Shaquanda”. Unrecognized word.

Since Shaquanda™ doesn’t have a meaning, I call it! I say: Shaquanda™ “Unruly and disrespectful”

Well, NervousHead

“with NO RECORD”

Evidently she does have a record (another LIE), since the School Dist attorney Eichelbaum mentioned one and that the mother is being disengenious (that meant to LIE).

“Creola Cotton is preventing the district from fairly defending itself by refusing to let the school district make her daughter’s entire record public, Eichelbaum said.

“Mrs. Cotton has been wrongfully attacking the character of the district,” Eichelbaum said. “She’s being disingenuous with regard to her daughter being an innocent child.”

BTW, did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express?

#12 Mr. Loboto™

I no longer wonder why you shake your head. Obviously, they left something in there that rattles around and it bugs you, therefore, you shake your head.

Did you forget her own words on her own website?

“I…shoved a hall monitor…in a dispute”

#14 Fe-cal Man

We’re not talking her school records, we’re talking her arrest records.

Try to keep up.

We have a crayon color named cotton? When did that happen?

The reason why Shakey’s head shakes his because the screws are loose. :0

#15 bj

And did you forget that she said she was pushed first?

Of course, that couldn’t happen, because all 58 year old adults are responsible, especially white ones, and would never do anything wrong like that.

I’m ahead of you, quit looking behind you oh Shiverin’Noggin™. Her school record would include disclipinary actions against her. Since she is a minor, they can’t show those to the media. Momma is hiding stuff and you are ignoring stuff.

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#18 - SHE WAS FOUND GUILTY BY A JURY. At this point, she bears the burden of proof re: any protestations of innocence. If you dispute that without knowing all the facts of the case, we’re not the one with a problem, you are. Any protestations of her innocence are necessarily tainted by the fact that she was tried and found guilty.

You cannot come down from the stinking mountain and declare this a miscarriage of justice without knowing all of the facts.

#18 - where, by the way, did you read that the adult she pushed was white?

“Any protestations of her innocence are necessarily tainted by”…. QuakeyPumpkin’s™ refusal to see the truth.

Why believe the truth when a lie fits your beliefs?

I got my butt whooped by a coach or an ag teacher when I was growing up. Look how it screwed me up. I hold down a steady job, pay half of my salary to the state, and voted for Bush twice and Perry once. Who would want to grow up to be like that?

9 sarge

Isn’t it sad that some people think being punished for crime is a conservative idea?

#24 Rick

It has nothing to do with being punished for a crime; she deserved punishment.

The argument is this punishment does not fit this crime.

Try to keep up.

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#25

Yeah, It depends on what your meaning on IS, is. Felony, schmelony…. let her go and push all the teachers she pleases.

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#25 -

The argument is this punishment does not fit this crime.

Oh, but according to the LAW, it does. If you don’t like the law, write your congressman, call Rick Perry’s office, email, fax, whatever. Put up or (you know the rest)…

#27 jimb

Do you not understand the legal system?

Judges have guidelines and also a lot of latitude. How do you think a girl who commits arson can get probation?

C’mon, you’re way smarter than this. Stop arguing just for the sake of arguing because you don’t like my opinion.

Stop arguing just for the sake of arguing because you don’t like my opinion.

I ain’t. There is latitude built into her sentence. She was convicted of a FELONY. An up-to-7 year sentence is not out of line for a felony. It may not “feel” right, but it is what it is. Like I said before, if I was the judge and I had a plea agreement basically thrown in my face with the attitude they did, I would throw the book at the kid, too. That mom didn’t vigorously defend that kid, that mom basically said “eff off”.

The girl who got probation for arson, again, for the last stinking time, since you’re not hearing me anyway, was the result of a plea agreement, not a jury trial, so you’re still comparing apples to mollusks…

Your whole basis for your argument is a flawed appeal to emotion.

Maybe she IS innocent. Were there any witnesses?

Maybe she IS innocent.

According to her own website, no.

She says on there that she pushed the hall monitor. Period. End of story.

30

Maybe it’s not your opinion. Maybe it’s your obnoxious attitude.

Plus the fact that you’re usually wrong.

If you were interested in a real discussion, you wouldn’t end every post with an insult. That makes it hard to take your arguments seriously. I recall the words of my high school speech teacher:

“When in trouble,
when in doubt,
run in circles,
scream and shout.”

Course, most regulars recognize by now you are often here to inflame, not inform.

Of course, that couldn’t happen, because all 58 year old adults are responsible, especially white ones, and would never do anything wrong like that.

can you produce any evidence that says the secrutity guard was white?

If you can’t, you just made a racist statement—

There was the 19-year-old white man, convicted last July of criminally
negligent homicide for killing a 54-year-old black woman and her 3-year-old grandson with his truck, who was sentenced in Paris to probation and required to send an annual Christmas card to the
victims’ family.

There are the Paris public schools, which are under investigation by the U.S. Education Department after repeated complaints that
administrators discipline black students more frequently, and more harshly, than white students.

gee–

He didn’t link to his source–

Interesting—–

UnstableMelon™

You know, I think you’re right. They should let her go. She can move in with you.

Look Shakey;

This whole

“LST Commenters are nothing by a bunch of neocon racists”

thing just ain’t working for you like you thought it would.

Odd–

Shakey thinks we should let a girl who assualted an adult who’s in juvy because she didn’t take the plea deal she was offered because somebody else took the plea deal they were offered.

Sarge,

You don’t get it. It’s racist. It doesn’t matter what happened, she could have chopped that school district employee up with a machete. The “R” word has been played and nothing trumps it. ConvulsionCoconut™ has spoken and you cannot disagree!

Try an keep up with Mr ConvulsionCoconut™

He stayed at a Holiday Inn Express!

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when headshaker shakes his head, do ya’all hear rattling? Big J. Keep coming at him with facts. You have an admirer.

OK;

http://theparisnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=579ca0b50b64412e

THAT requires resgistration—so I’m hoping that the 100 word limit is lifted on this post so that others don’t need to go get one:

By definition, an indeterminate sentence is one structured so that the person’s conduct determines the date of release. The truth is that Shaquanda could be out by now. She determines how soon she comes home by her actions.

But that’s not something the Chicago Tribune bothered to mention during the newspaper’s journalistic lynching of this community earlier this month. Why lets facts get in the way of a good story, right?

snip

In the year after Shaquanda was convicted, absolutely nothing happened except Shaquanda’s mother and a handful of wanna-be civil rights activists convinced a Dallas and Houston-based tabloid that Shaquanda had been wronged. The poorly written report was laced with inaccurate information and failed to garner much attention — especially with local African-Americans who are familiar with Shaquanda’s case. Credible civil rights advocates, including most black ministers, did not become involved.

By Friday, the community had been whipped into a frenzy with rumors of protests and counter protests at Paris High, the plaza and the courthouse. Amid rumors that African-American students would walk away from classes at 11 a.m. and participate in a protest rally, law enforcement officers and school officials prepared for the worse. Extra lawmen were put on stand-by status and the front of Paris High was shielded with school buses. A white line was chalked to show protesters how far they could go without breaking the law.

Guess what happened?

Nothing — absolutely nothing.

Not one Paris High student walked away from campus, which was probably a great disappointment for the news vans parked across the street and the videographer aboard a chopper hovering over the school.

I know nothing happened because I had lunch in the Paris High cafeteria with Superintendent Paul Trull, PISD trustee George Fisher and a handful of African-America ministers.

Will there be another protest organized this week?

Probably.

But don’t expect to see more than a handful of Paris residents participating. Those who know the facts understand Shaquanda’s case is about the commission of a criminal act, not racism.

So what’s going on here is that a bunch of people not familiar with Shaqaunda and all the facts of the stroy—like Headshaker—are stirring all of this up.

But the people most involved—the African American commjnity of paris, TX knows her story and won’t join in.

“do ya’all hear rattling?”

No, methinks anything useful fell out of an open blow hole long ago. However, I do hear this….
http://www.pachd.com/pacdv_sfx/voices/blah-blah-blah.wav

I’m going to watch American Idol. I hope that weird skinny kid gets voted off.

It’s more real than Shaquanda™ and her “plight” against those white devils in Paris, Tx!!

g’nite

http://theparisnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=7ac9ecbb65bfd1d1

Same hometown newspaper:

Does racism exist in Paris? Yes, but not nearly to the extent the Tribune reporter would have readers believe. In fact, Shaquanda Cotton’s case wasn’t about race until her defense team played all they had — the race card. This case was about a student who assaulted a teacher’s aide — a criminal offense warranting judicial punishment.

Was her sentence too harsh? Probably, but County Judge Chuck Superville saw the need to remove this student from her home, where such acts were not only tolerated but defended. School officials had exhausted their options, and the law didn’t give the judge many choices.

snip

In his effort to create the image of an white-hooded community, the Tribune’s fiction writer fails to mention black teachers and administrators testified against Cotton at trial. Nor does he acknowledge the fact she received a stiff sentence because she was habitually in trouble at school.

It makes a better story to spin a tale of racist retaliation and suggest whites were sending “a signal to black folks.” Here’s the facts: there was no conspiracy to send this 14-year-old to “prison” because her mother had protested at school campuses and in most cases blacks and whites live in harmony in Paris.

So;

In answer to your question shakes:

Yah, there WERE witnesses—and they WERE NOT WHITE.

and so far, I haven’t found one story that confirms YOU’RE allegation that the teachers aide was white—or black.

Jeesh Shakey. She admitted she did it on her own website.

AYWWNGASWYSYH.

I have a solution. Shakey should go to the judge and offer up a $100,000 bond and take poor misunderstood Shaquanda into his home whereupon Shakey will show her that not all white people are cruel racists. Shakey must keep her until she is 17 or 18. At that time if he and his family are still living, he then ca turn her over to the TDC, where he will undoubtedly believe she belongs by then.

TYC is a youth prison, bigjolly. Calling it anything else is semantics. And if you think a 14-year kid shoving a hall monitor, or anybody, deserves a prison sentence of any length, you’re no conservative in any classic sense - that’s just plain totalitarianism. What she “admitted” she did simply doesn’t justify a third degree felony.

You say this “bully” (you’ve no evidence for that) assaulted (really, from “shoved”?) a hall monitor expecting no punishment, but that’s a silly statement given the sentence she got and the judge’s assertion that it was typical - your interpretation of her mindset (which of course you cannot know) just isn’t supported by the available facts.

Also, re-read my post on Grits, please - it’s no anti-conservative rant and I didn’t play the race card. In fact, I wrote, “Black, white, or green, have we lost our minds? That’s not conservative, just unforgiving and mean-spirited. Are we really so punitive a society that we can justify throwing 14-year olds in prison for bratty juvenile behavior that didn’t harm anyone?” So I only ever said the sentence was wrong and excessive, and the offense overcharged by the DA. Both happen to be true. best,

Grits, you’re wasting your time.

You know why I shake my head.

What gets me about this situation is that nobody here really cares about the 14 yr old girl. All they care about is being right about their “position”. It’s a 14 yr old girl. What does that say about our country when a bunch of supposedly adults argue about a 14 yr old girls plight. Shouldn’t we be arguing over what is the best thing we can do for this girl?

#54 Smacktle

Exactly, and the reason I’m so vehement about my position is because I don’t think her life should be ruined for a “shove”.

Shakes, you will soon learn. You are in the perfect area and your precious daughters are nearing the age to be dealing with these little thugs that never get the first offense on their record because, well, it is the first offense.

In the early ’90’s, my 11 yr old son was beat up by a 13 yr old (a known thug, and white kid) but nothing could be done because the police nor school ever wrote him up the first time. This was in Cy-Fair ISD, Jersey Village area.

#56 Tim

Show me the proof that she was a thug.

Guess I should have seen what I could have done to help the kid out.

The Judge basically said it and the lawyer hinted at it. You love putting 2 and 2 together.

#56 Tim

If this were your child, would you accept the sentence and simply allow him to serve up to 7 years for shoving a hall monitor?

Please answer honestly.

I have a 25 yr old and a 16 yr old, neither are or have been trouble makers because we are very much in control. If one went astray and I could not stop it, I would be the first to turn it over to who could, honestly.

#61 Tim

I’ll ask again:

If your child who had no prior record went “astray” for shoving a hall monitor (and your child claims he was shoved first), would you simply accept a potential 7 year term in TYC, or would you do everything you could to have that sentence mitigated?

#54

smacktle

I couldn’t agree with you more. This girl might be a bully she might even be more then that but she needs help and that is the bottom line. May God help her and her family.

I’m not going to accept the premise, it is obvious the girl and the mother are thugs. I could give a crap what race they are either, it is all blending with these kids anyway.

Shakes, and you’re still working off the premise that what you’ve heard is the whole story. It isn’t. You will probably never know the whole story, so you’re going off half-cocked…

#64

You don’t have to answer, I already know what you would do.

#65 jimb

I respect your opinion and your right to express it, and I will continue to express mine.

How come these cops accused of racism are to be punished and not hugged.

hmmmmm.

Beating head against the computer……So, how ’bout those Astros?

Talk about half cocked and Shakey shuts down.

I haven’t shut down; I’ll discuss this all night.

Let’s go.

JK, I love you man.

#60 - Personally, knowing that pushing a teacher’s aide or hall monitor or even the stinking janitor is felony assault, whether I liked it or not, I would tell her to not stand on some misguided “principle” just to stick it to the man, and accept the bargain and the 2 years of probation.

So the 7-year possibility would not materialize, unless she was to lose track of her brain and demand a trial. If that were the case, I would not really have any control over the situation, and would not be able to have any choice over what I would “allow” or not.

Again, Shaker, if you really care so much about this case, then put your money where your mouth is, stop pissing and moaning impotently here, and DO SOMETHING about it.

Jimb, with all due respect, when you become moderator here you can stop me from pissing and moaning. Until then, I’ll piss and moan all I want to.

You keep saying I don’t know all the facts, yet you don’t either, and you’re as entrenched in your position as I am mine.

Dare I say DS?

Does anybody care about the girl? Or, is it a matter of let’s blog all night to see who wins?

I’m not telling you that you can’t piss and moan here. I am telling you that as passionate as you are about this subject, that you should really consider doing something more than pissing and moaning.

And no, you dare not say DS. I, on the other hand, dare very much. I know that she was tried and found guilty in a court of law, in a legal system that largely works as it should. If you want to question that trial, sentencing, plea agreement turning-down, and throw around accusations of racism, YOU have to know the facts of the case. The burden of proof is not on me, my friend…

I Win!

I’m just going out on a limb here as say two sweeping statements about convicts

They all think they are innocent

They are all there on the advice of an attorney

I don’t want to win. I am done. I hope that the girl and her family get the help they so obviously need.

“And that’s all I’ve got to say ’bout that”

–Forrest Gump

I think in the case of the girl she had some members of the community should sit down with TYC and get her progress. Then work with her child until she attains the nirvana to get released

Working with TYC its not a real stretch, she probably has to be respectful to authority, keep her room clean, not beat on physically and verbally on anyone and payt attention in school.

But thats just me - thats what I would do

#78 - Remember The Shawshank Recemption?

Red: You’re gonna fit right in. Everyone in here is innocent, you know that? Heywood, what you in here for?
Heywood: Didn’t do it. Lawyer f’ed me.

Um, that would be “The Shawshank Redemption”…

If people really cared about the young people in our world (and I’m not talking about son/ daughter/ family etc…) this kind of thing wouldn’t even be an issue. It’s time for all of us to look inside and say am I part of the problem or am I part of the solution.

Smacktle
#83

Exactly right! Good on ya!

Unfortunately, it would. Man is innately sinful, and that extends to young children and teens. It may not take the form of a Shaquanda Cotton if society were “better”, but kids have rebelled and blown it since time immemorial. It is part of the human condition.

And the REAL answer? You guys already know my beliefs in that area…

Let’s DO think about the girl:

If this thing wasn’t being used as a political tool by all of these self aboointed “Civil rights activistd” that are coming in from out of town (Did you even READ the article from the home town, Shakes? You know, the one that says the African American Community in Paris, including the preachers haven’t complained about this?) this girl would be out right now

But nooooo—we can use this to paint a bunch of conservatives as dirty racists, so we’re gonna let the kid rot instead of taking the plea.

But because of politics she’s going to be in TYC for the next 6 years.

Some folks, like Headshaker and this kid’s mother, care more about the poltics of the situation than they do about the kid.

That’s WHY she’s in jail.

Sarge, I care about justice, pure and simple.

Nice try though; your attempts at assassinating my character these last 2 days is very telling.

#88 - What about all those other fools like Quanell 10 who fancy themselves “civil rights leaders”? What about Miss Cotton’s mother? Think they really care about getting her justice as much as they care about proving this is a “black thing”?

Be honest.

And Shakey, honestly, you’ve suggested that some very nice people are racist for not screaming about this from the mountaintops like you, in all your nobility, have judged we should.

So you know what? I doubt very much that “justice, pure and simple” is all that is on your agenda.

And maybe that’s why I am hanging in this discussion/argument so long…

#89 jimb

I don’t know, but I would hope her mother wants her out because she loves her and feels she’s been punished enough for her crime and wants to spend these last years of childhood with her.

As for Quanell and company, I don’t dispute they’re after publicity for their “cause”, but that’s what you get in these situations. And it obviously doesn’t help her in the court of conservative public opinion (nor does her name as evidenced by several comments today and yesterday).

Getting out of TYC is no big,,,,

Clean your room, pay attention at school, dont throw down beatins, follow the rules, be respectful

I know she can do it but momma’s got to convince her as well that its not bowing down to the man its helping herself

#90 jimb

I never accused anyone directly, but as Rahman et al have said, we all harbor racism to some degree, some more than others.

If you don’t think anyone here is racist (DISCLAIMER: I wouldn’t begin to even know who to identify), you have your head in the sand. You’ll find it here, on Liberal blogs, everywhere. But certainly I wasn’t going to accuse anyone here of being a neo-lib.

Her name is irrelevant, and honestly, those who focus on her name should stop doing so. It detracts from the real issue.

I will say that mom’s known actions in court suggest that she may well have her daughter’s best interest at heart, but she’s allowing it to be overridden by the point she wants to prove…

Bullcrapshakes;
Fiorst shot out of the barrel you wer accusing us of being racist neocons for not even talking about it.

You sure as the grass is green used it to take your own persaonl political shot.

A veiled suggestion of racism is little different from a direct accusation, but what do I know?

we all harbor racism to some degree

And I’ll say the same thing thing that Hamous did to Noodles: That’s bull-puckey - all of us harbor some prejudice or another, but not everyone harbors racism - they’re 2 different things. You yourself have claimed that you don’t have a racist bone in your body, if I remember correctly…

#95 sarge

Go pet your kitty

#96 jimb

Racism is prejudice based upon race. Whom amongst us has never been prejudiced based upon race, whether it be black, Asian, Hispanic, Arab, etc.?

I’d like to meet that person and shake their hand.

Shakes;

Did you read th part wher all the witnesses (you said there were none) were black?

Have you found out yet what the race of the teachers aide was?

You said she was white.

and like I said before:

If you can’t prove she’s white, your assumption that she was is racists.

Seeing as how that all of the people involved in the incident were black (the witnesses and the accused), then we MIGHT be able to divi8ne that the teacher’s aide was black too, wouldn’t we.

Why would you assume the teacher’s aide was white?

#83 Smackjob

Yes it takes a village. Can’t wait for your kids to get older as well.

“Doing something” is finally getting some meat in these sentences.

I’m going to say that Racism is much uglier than simply prejudice based upon race. It requires hate. Something like this:

a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

That is WAY more than simple prejudice based upon race. “Black people like watermelon and fried chicken” is prejudice. White supremacists are racist.

Holy crap! I agree with most people that I disagree with! (except for Shakey).

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Duck and cover, folks! We’re dooooomed! We’re doooomed!/falling on knees and scraping them!

Racism is prejudice based upon race. Whom amongst us has never been prejudiced based upon race, whether it be black, Asian, Hispanic, Arab, etc.?

right–

and your racism caused you to belevie that the teachers aide was WHITE, because you think the only reson this girl was accused was because she’s black.

But all of the witnesses were black.

And the black community in Paris hasn’t spoken out–ESPECIALLY those that know her story.

Prejudice, as I see it, is:

preconceived judgment or opinion that may or may not have a basis in fact

Sarge, where does it say all the witnesses were black?

Where does it say the black community in Paris hasn’t spoken out?

You’re good at demanding proof, yet you provide none to validate your claims.

ST

I won’t tell anyone

Shakey;

You couldn’t WAIT to post this story so that you cuold use it tio call us all racist neocons.

Just as you like to post stories about the misdeeds of so-called conservative spokesmen so you can color us all with thier words and your scorn.

YOU are the one who is prejudiced here.

YOU are the one who never wastes an opportunity to say something negative about conservatives–ESPECIALLY “The Religious Right”

http://www.pachd.com/pacdv_sfx/voices/blah-blah-blah.wav

Shakes the Clown still bumping his gums at us eeeevil white folk on the nuances of being racist crackaz???

ShiveringMelon™, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to let her move in with you? Are you going to go to Paris, Tx and march against this miscarriage of justice? I doubt it. Instead, get yourself a “Free Tibet” sticker. It’ll make you feel better and you really won’t have to do anything. You’ve lectured (talked down to everybody, I was being nice) for two days and I think pretty much everyone thinks you’re a boob that’s been drinking the bong water at this point.

Give it up. Free Tibet!

If a mime dies in the forest will anyone care?

jimb, there are several definitions and degrees of racism, and it does not have to involve hate.

So, Eric, what’s the weather like over yonder?? Getting hot yet??

March 28th, 2007 at 10:20 pm
Sarge, where does it say all the witnesses were black?

Where does it say the black community in Paris hasn’t spoken out?

You’re good at demanding proof, yet you provide none to validate your claims.

Go back up and read #44 through #49.

I did something YOU should have done before calling everybody here racist neocons.

I did some research.

In his effort to create the image of an white-hooded community, the Tribune’s fiction writer fails to mention black teachers and administrators testified against Cotton at trial. Nor does he acknowledge the fact she received a stiff sentence because she was habitually in trouble at school.

#108 MetalMind

OK, and no one has talked down to me, right?

DOUBLE STANDARDS!

You are pretty funny though, I’ll give you that.

Hold on a minute…..yes, I’m against rednecks that kill a baby doe, cut the backstrap out of it, and leave the rest to rot on the side of the road.

Yes, I’m against the rich elite who think they can buy carbon credits to feel better about their “excessiveness”.

Yes, I’m against the child who shoves an authoritive figure in school. (Read and sign the handbook, slacker) etc, etc….

I hate everybody! Do you think I could get outa jury duty on 4-19? I think I’m a racist. I hate EVERYBODY…(except for FURRY animals!)

Yes, I’m against the bully….

Sarge, it doesn’t say ALL the witnesses were black. Another blatant misstatement on your part.

And the author of the article even says the sentence was probably too harsh, which is WHAT I’VE BEEN SAYING YOU MORON!

Geez.

Holy cow. I’m done. I’m going to get my prozac and go to bed now.

I shall speak no more of Shaquanda Cotton forever™

Great shakes;

We all know now right where you are coming from.

We’re all just a bunch of racist neocons and you are as pure as the driven snow.

You didn;t jump to any race based conclusions–oh noooooo

It’s the racist neo cons who do that–

You know, last year I jumped on you for taking this kind of opportunity to paint all conservatives with hate based rhetoric and Squawk jumoed on my case for oonths because of it.

You cried, you moaned and you bitched about mean old Sarge.

People who thought you were thier freind came to you aid.

You reward them by calling them racist neocons.

Well, you;ve gotten the attention you crave–you are right in the middle of it—the center of the frikkin universe.

Hope you can pay the price.

Iron Man

weird,

Is the weather but yeah yesterday hit 100 for the first time was pretty nicve and cool for 5 months though and soo much rain 14 years worth

But the locals had anit american protest yesterday in the streets over the war will link any news about it today

Got to get kids to school

Last word:

Shaquandra is in jail because her mother cared more for her politics than she does her little girl.

which is probably why the kid was acting out in the first place.

You called your freinds racists for the same damn reason:

Your politics is more important than your freindships.

TrembleNoggin™
“OK, and no one has talked down to me, right?”

If you ran into a beer joint calling everyone there a mo-fo, expect it to be returned atcha…

BTW, I’d rather be a Neocon than a white guilt laded Neosoc….

Neosoc, (pronounced: knee-sock); neosocialist: is a term used to describe any one of a wide variety of left-wing political movements that are considered socialist and have developed recently.

Evidently it causes some peep’s noggin to tremble…. TrembleNoggin™

Sarge, if the shoe fits, wear it.

Otherwise, why let it bother you?

Sticks and stones may break my bones,
but names will never hurt me.

Deal with it pokey.