More after effects from the Republican Party’s collapse that allowed Democrats to take control of the US Congress last November. In the latest incarnation of new “hate crime” legislation, homosexuals are going to be given protected status.
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) asked, “If a minister was giving a sermon, a Bible study or any kind of written or spoken message saying that homosexuality was a serious sin and a person in the congregation went out and committed a crime against a homosexual would the minister be charged with the crime of incitement?”
Chairman John Conyers and Congressional Democrats kept evading the issue, providing reasons why they could not accept the amendment until Rep. Lundgren demanded, “What is your answer? Would there be incitement charges against the pastor?”
At that point Democrat Congressman Artur Davis from Alabama candidly said, “Yes.”
That’s right folks. If the new “hate crimes” legislation is approved, it will be a crime to say that your Bible says homosexuality is a sin if someone within earshot hears you and at some point commits a crime against a homosexual. The Democrat majority in the US House Judiciary Committee voted down 25 amendments that Republicans put for to clarify the intention of the bill, including an exemption for religious beliefs.
A coalition of black pastors is lobbying against the bill.
“This bill will offer a status for gays, lesbians and transgender people under the equal protection status that can muzzle the black church,” said Bishop Harry R. Jackson Jr., pastor of Hope Christian Church in Lanham and founder of the High Impact Leader Coalition. “This law can be applied in the way that can keep the church from preaching the Gospel.”
Now I’m sure that some of you out there are saying no way, this could never happen. Take a look at what has happened in other countries that have passed similar legislation.
In Sweden, a pastor was arrested at his church after he began reading Bible verses about homosexuality.
In Britain, an Anglican bishop was placed under criminal investigation for suggesting that homosexuals can change their sexual orientation.
The Spanish government threatened to arrest a Roman Catholic bishop for violating the nation’s law when he spoke out against the legalization of same-sex “marriage.”
But don’t think it hasn’t already started here in America.
Already, there is great evidence that an erosion of religious liberty is taking place in America. In Philadelphia, a group of Christians faced the possibility of 47 years in prison after being arrested for protesting at a homosexual parade. They were charged with various crimes, including “ethnic intimidation.” The charges were eventually dismissed.
In Tennessee, two men were arrested for carrying large wooden crosses during a “Gay Day” Parade. The men were charged with “interfering with a specialevent.”
In Vermont, a family-owned inn is facing a state lawsuit after its Christian owners expressed a lack of interest in hosting a same-sex civil union ceremony.
While you are sitting outside today enjoying the weekend weather, think about what you can do to stop the progression of the liberal agenda in our country. The Republican Party blew their opportunity with their arrogance and mismanagement. It is now up to you.
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This is where the Democrats fail, Republicans, depite not sacking the government and ending all spending, still are eons and eons away from where these demgenerates are
But hey, skip those boxes show em a lesson
What do we do TODAY, Eric? The Repubs already blew it. You want us to vote for the same people that had a chance and squandered it? How do you inject new blood into the Repub party?
Why you just keep voting in the same people Jolly, didn’t you know that?
Sheesh and I thought you were politically astute.
/just yankin yer chain.
It’s amazing to me that we can’t find anyone in the Republican Party willing to stand for stated Republican ideals. We gave Rep’s a chance, and they got greedy and forgot what they were up there for. At least the Dem’s know what they are up there for - plunder, pillage, graft, corruption, surrender, etc.
Rastus
At great risk of getting flamed, can you say third party?
My question is, knowing that this will move through the House and probably the Senate, will Bush have the nerve to veto it?
Squawk, do you think it is realistic for us to form a third party? If so, what would the political landscape look like?
I say form because no way am I going to vote Libertarian.
Jolly
Based on Bush’s’ past, no he will not veto the legislation.
A third party has been formed. I’m libertarian but my choice is the Constitution party. I would love to see a “true” independant conservative “Constitutionalist” get elected to the presidency.
The political landscape would not change much at first. A leader/winner would need to emerge from the third party to expand the momentum.
A third party president would be like Kinky Freidman as our gov, basically a leader with no followers in the house or Senate, left only to sign or veto.
How about a lobbying group, Bush said money trumps….. everything. We set out a clear agenda to support American Culture as it was and fund raise like crazy. We hire lobbyists who go after these greedy politicians ( no party is exempt)and get some protections passed. I am concerned about the ham incident and the kid being charged with a hate crime. Also changing the story of the 3 little pigs to other animals is just obscene. Do we have to protect pigs now?
I think its too late for a third party. Money trumps everything.
AW
and there in lies another problem…. as long as folks believe there is no chance then there is no chance.
Call me an optimist, change can come, it would be slow. Those of us that give a care have to demand higher standards and have the courage to pick the path we believe correct and attack the problem. We do that by making our voice heard. If the old ways don’t work then it is time to get creative and patient.
I see and hear all the time the problems clearly identified from all over the place and when any call for chnage in any fashion is raised what is heard next?
Now that the dems are in power, the pac money is pouring into their coffers for protection. It will be decades before the repubs have another bite at the apple-if the islamics don’t get us first. In the DC madam case, ABC will hold all the democrat whore dogs’ names for political favors and leak republican names one by one through the 2008 presidential election. I am afraid that conservative Christian values are history in the USA. We will eventually bow before the crescent and their democrat appeasers, or die resisting. I pray that I have the strength to not renounce my Lord and Saviour when the time comes..Where is Steve Centanni, the Fox news reporter who embraced Islam as a hostage today? Eternity is a long time.
#11 Squwak, I am for another party, yes, but to get any credibity will take years. Let’s do it. But for now let’s form a coalition that buys bills and votes, just like our opponents do. We can do both. The party for the long term, and the group that protects American, as quickly as we can get it done. Keep it simple, we do not want to slay dragons, we need to achieve maybe 3 goals. 1. Protect our culture from politically corret influence. 2. Protect our right to assemble as Christians and hear the word of our religion. 3. Make the American culture , new immigrants are expected to embrace and define that culture.
ok that last sentence didnt come out right lol… Make the American culture the one new immigrants must embrace… Define that culture. There, is that better?
The first thing churches need to do to separate themselves from the corrupt state is to terminate their 501(c)(3) status!
How will that help?
Bigjolly
we can go down this wind swept road, Republicans never ever were close to having the 60 votes in the house, Remember at their best they had 51 solidly conservative votes
(Remember the 4 New England Liberals who would never vote in deep tax cuts or changes in social security)
To me, I always felt the house was irrevelant, a strong senate can always make a house concede points rarely have I seen the reversal.
The House passed a drug plan that was less than what Bush wanted, the 4 republicans and the Democrats in the Senate made em compromise.
The Presidency showed us that giving to Kerry in 2004 was going to be an 8 year repeat of Clinton, constantly shutting down government and vetoing everything conservative that came through.
Now I’m told that this year, tax revenues, the economy, despite the war, despite everything we will be less than 1% of GDP in the red or actually have a surplus.
If you want major program cuts, you got to fight to get 60 conservatives elected, not quit short because we didn’t.
No ones perfect, well except me, but we never ever were close and Daschle fought everything including the selection of the Senate Historian.
You don’t have time to inject and rebuild, thats an excuse for planning to lose
I meant we never ever had 60 votes in the Senate
Take care Bigjolly I understand where you’re coming from - its the same thing Dan faced when he tried to get that stupid parlimentary procedure done away with his first day
not so easy
You see, the Republicans tried to get things passed, the entitlement programs have been the real growth and the rebuilding of the military, the Phants didn’t pass social security and the rest of the 2/3 ds of the spending
It was the Democrats
Why did not Gohmert or anyone else accuse Conyers of being ‘anti-Islam’?
Obviously this bill is against the Koran. Is it to late to bring this up?
Great post - thanks for the summary.
This is a tragic infringement on free speech. These pro-gay-lesbian-bisexual-transgender groups are amazing in how they are driving public policy.
Spend some time at http://www.massresistance.org/ and see what is going on in public schools.
Eric, tell me how Harry Ried was able to get his Iraq pull out bill through? After all, they only have 50 Dems. No, you are wrong. The Repubs had their chance, more than a few, and blew it. The question for me is do I swallow that because they are more conservative than the Dems or do I try and figure out a way to get new blood in?
From your comments, I guess you say stay the course with the current crop of Repubs. I’m thinking it’s time for radical change. Conservatives will never be back in power because of those guys, no reason to let them maintain their minority status. Perhaps a third party with some kind of swing vote status will work, at least to block the worst of it.
BigJolly,
I see you like to paruse LifeSite.com. Awesome!
Oh, Excellent posting… quite impressive.
Keep up the good work.
Tito
BigJolly
Because Republicans are against the war, I’m against the war
Not from the Beginning, not from the middle, but now, its over, we haven’t lost, people in Iraq have not appreciated our sacrifice and accordingly, we should pull out
In other words the Republicans occasionally let the majority rule
Unlike the Democrats
#21 bigjolly
I think its because the Republicans know Bush will veto the bill anyway so a filibuster by the Republicans would be pointless.
I have faith that Bush will veto this bill too.
Bigjolly
conservatives will never be in the majority, ever, the best they can do is build a coalition of moderates and conservatives to govern
Unless you want to concede the middle ground to the Democrats who have gone to the left but won the middle ground albeit temporarily over the Iraqis non response to the war
Pull out let the blue helmet wine sippin Eurotrash secure their own damn oil supplies
#25 Eric
I agree (see above). The question for me is whether it is better to form that coalition as a third party instead of working within the Republican party. Conservatives have had some success working within the Repubs but not much over the last few years.
#23 Eric
Did I miss something?
#24 hamous
I want to believe that but can’t. He’s just too timid.
Yes,
over a third now are against the war Hagel, Snow, Collins, Coleman and about 10 others
How they vote on a veto is going to be interesting.
Its over, bring em home, if we are just doing this for national pride
don’t they say that pride is the greatist sin?
Its over, even if we win we would have to be the next Saddam and brutally subjugate those people.
Let the Arabs and the Europeans sort em out.
we did our part,
OK third party…… where do we start? I still think if we can raise enough money and lobby, we can buy what we need, just like everyone else.
secession is another option
umm if we seceed, dont we have to have leaders? and infrastructure? oh yikes the guys in black will be tappin my phone.
All,
My recommendation is to wait until Kay Bailey decides to come bollix up Texas politics some more, and draft Paul Bettancort or Dan Patrick to the senate seat! There’s no point in getting excited before SHE makes a move - there’s no way we’ll ever remove a sitting senator, what with all the incumbent support automatically provided by the senate as well as both parties, not to mention the MSM lapdogs. The real problem is that we have to start now to identify a suitable replacement for that leader where he is now.
33
Kay Bailey gettin old
The Titanic is sinking. Prepare yourself. May the strong and wise survive. To hell with the weak and ignorant.
You really think the repukes blew it with arrogance and mismanagement?
Boy oh Boy!
#35 - Yes, I do. I don’t buy the conspiracy theorist stuff. Sorry.
I will say this - If people of faith aren’t allowed to refer to what that faith dictates as a sin for what it is, then the first amendment means nothing.
There is no conspiracy theory jimb.
The ship is sinking. Yepper. The 1st mean nothing and Judas John Anti Free Speech McCain is still in office running as a conservative. He is not arrogant. He doesnt care about the Constitution. No consiracy jimbo. Facts!
Like I said, to hell with the weak and the IGNORANT!
It really sucks finding out that most everything you believe in is a lie.
I hate to bring it up. But the Muslims have adequately demonstrated that bombs and bullets get folks attention — even U.S. politicians. In fact they [Congress] want to cut and run from Iraq because of of a few bombs and bullets.
We may have to come up with a little “activity” to make the Perverts and their pervert political pimps to “cut and run”!
We need to get rid of waste - Kay Bailey Hutchison. She is not doing her job - FACT!