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39 Responses to “Pastors, Be Careful What You Say in the Pulpit”
  1. EricPJohnson on April 28th, 2007 at 10:42 am

    This is where the Democrats fail, Republicans, depite not sacking the government and ending all spending, still are eons and eons away from where these demgenerates are

    But hey, skip those boxes show em a lesson

  2. bigjolly on April 28th, 2007 at 10:44 am

    What do we do TODAY, Eric? The Repubs already blew it. You want us to vote for the same people that had a chance and squandered it? How do you inject new blood into the Repub party?

  3. Squawkbox Noise on April 28th, 2007 at 11:00 am

    How do you inject new blood into the Repub party?

    Why you just keep voting in the same people Jolly, didn’t you know that?

    Sheesh and I thought you were politically astute.

    /just yankin yer chain.

  4. Rastus on April 28th, 2007 at 11:03 am

    It’s amazing to me that we can’t find anyone in the Republican Party willing to stand for stated Republican ideals. We gave Rep’s a chance, and they got greedy and forgot what they were up there for. At least the Dem’s know what they are up there for - plunder, pillage, graft, corruption, surrender, etc.

  5. Squawkbox Noise on April 28th, 2007 at 11:12 am

    Rastus
    At great risk of getting flamed, can you say third party?

  6. bigjolly on April 28th, 2007 at 11:27 am

    My question is, knowing that this will move through the House and probably the Senate, will Bush have the nerve to veto it?

  7. bigjolly on April 28th, 2007 at 11:29 am

    Squawk, do you think it is realistic for us to form a third party? If so, what would the political landscape look like?

    I say form because no way am I going to vote Libertarian.

  8. Squawkbox Noise on April 28th, 2007 at 11:38 am

    Jolly
    Based on Bush’s’ past, no he will not veto the legislation.

    A third party has been formed. I’m libertarian but my choice is the Constitution party. I would love to see a “true” independant conservative “Constitutionalist” get elected to the presidency.

    The political landscape would not change much at first. A leader/winner would need to emerge from the third party to expand the momentum.

    A third party president would be like Kinky Freidman as our gov, basically a leader with no followers in the house or Senate, left only to sign or veto.

  9. american woman on April 28th, 2007 at 11:38 am

    How about a lobbying group, Bush said money trumps….. everything. We set out a clear agenda to support American Culture as it was and fund raise like crazy. We hire lobbyists who go after these greedy politicians ( no party is exempt)and get some protections passed. I am concerned about the ham incident and the kid being charged with a hate crime. Also changing the story of the 3 little pigs to other animals is just obscene. Do we have to protect pigs now?

  10. american woman on April 28th, 2007 at 11:39 am

    I think its too late for a third party. Money trumps everything.

  11. Squawkbox Noise on April 28th, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    AW

    and there in lies another problem…. as long as folks believe there is no chance then there is no chance.

    Call me an optimist, change can come, it would be slow. Those of us that give a care have to demand higher standards and have the courage to pick the path we believe correct and attack the problem. We do that by making our voice heard. If the old ways don’t work then it is time to get creative and patient.

    I see and hear all the time the problems clearly identified from all over the place and when any call for chnage in any fashion is raised what is heard next?

    It won’t work, we can’t do that.

  12. agent21 on April 28th, 2007 at 12:36 pm

    Now that the dems are in power, the pac money is pouring into their coffers for protection. It will be decades before the repubs have another bite at the apple-if the islamics don’t get us first. In the DC madam case, ABC will hold all the democrat whore dogs’ names for political favors and leak republican names one by one through the 2008 presidential election. I am afraid that conservative Christian values are history in the USA. We will eventually bow before the crescent and their democrat appeasers, or die resisting. I pray that I have the strength to not renounce my Lord and Saviour when the time comes..Where is Steve Centanni, the Fox news reporter who embraced Islam as a hostage today? Eternity is a long time.

  13. american woman on April 28th, 2007 at 12:44 pm

    #11 Squwak, I am for another party, yes, but to get any credibity will take years. Let’s do it. But for now let’s form a coalition that buys bills and votes, just like our opponents do. We can do both. The party for the long term, and the group that protects American, as quickly as we can get it done. Keep it simple, we do not want to slay dragons, we need to achieve maybe 3 goals. 1. Protect our culture from politically corret influence. 2. Protect our right to assemble as Christians and hear the word of our religion. 3. Make the American culture , new immigrants are expected to embrace and define that culture.

  14. american woman on April 28th, 2007 at 12:45 pm

    ok that last sentence didnt come out right lol… Make the American culture the one new immigrants must embrace… Define that culture. There, is that better?

  15. txpatriot on April 28th, 2007 at 12:58 pm

    The first thing churches need to do to separate themselves from the corrupt state is to terminate their 501(c)(3) status!

  16. american woman on April 28th, 2007 at 1:00 pm

    How will that help?

  17. EricPJohnson on April 28th, 2007 at 1:43 pm

    Bigjolly

    we can go down this wind swept road, Republicans never ever were close to having the 60 votes in the house, Remember at their best they had 51 solidly conservative votes

    (Remember the 4 New England Liberals who would never vote in deep tax cuts or changes in social security)

    To me, I always felt the house was irrevelant, a strong senate can always make a house concede points rarely have I seen the reversal.

    The House passed a drug plan that was less than what Bush wanted, the 4 republicans and the Democrats in the Senate made em compromise.

    The Presidency showed us that giving to Kerry in 2004 was going to be an 8 year repeat of Clinton, constantly shutting down government and vetoing everything conservative that came through.

    Now I’m told that this year, tax revenues, the economy, despite the war, despite everything we will be less than 1% of GDP in the red or actually have a surplus.

    If you want major program cuts, you got to fight to get 60 conservatives elected, not quit short because we didn’t.

    No ones perfect, well except me, but we never ever were close and Daschle fought everything including the selection of the Senate Historian.

    You don’t have time to inject and rebuild, thats an excuse for planning to lose

  18. EricPJohnson on April 28th, 2007 at 1:47 pm

    I meant we never ever had 60 votes in the Senate

    Take care Bigjolly I understand where you’re coming from - its the same thing Dan faced when he tried to get that stupid parlimentary procedure done away with his first day

    not so easy

    You see, the Republicans tried to get things passed, the entitlement programs have been the real growth and the rebuilding of the military, the Phants didn’t pass social security and the rest of the 2/3 ds of the spending

    It was the Democrats

  19. molly49 on April 28th, 2007 at 2:16 pm

    Why did not Gohmert or anyone else accuse Conyers of being ‘anti-Islam’?
    Obviously this bill is against the Koran. Is it to late to bring this up?

  20. HomerJ on April 28th, 2007 at 3:17 pm

    Great post - thanks for the summary.

    This is a tragic infringement on free speech. These pro-gay-lesbian-bisexual-transgender groups are amazing in how they are driving public policy.

    Spend some time at http://www.massresistance.org/ and see what is going on in public schools.

  21. bigjolly on April 28th, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    Eric, tell me how Harry Ried was able to get his Iraq pull out bill through? After all, they only have 50 Dems. No, you are wrong. The Repubs had their chance, more than a few, and blew it. The question for me is do I swallow that because they are more conservative than the Dems or do I try and figure out a way to get new blood in?

    From your comments, I guess you say stay the course with the current crop of Repubs. I’m thinking it’s time for radical change. Conservatives will never be back in power because of those guys, no reason to let them maintain their minority status. Perhaps a third party with some kind of swing vote status will work, at least to block the worst of it.

  22. Tito on April 28th, 2007 at 3:27 pm

    BigJolly,

    I see you like to paruse LifeSite.com. Awesome!

    Oh, Excellent posting… quite impressive.

    Keep up the good work.

    Tito

  23. EricPJohnson on April 28th, 2007 at 3:32 pm

    BigJolly

    Because Republicans are against the war, I’m against the war

    Not from the Beginning, not from the middle, but now, its over, we haven’t lost, people in Iraq have not appreciated our sacrifice and accordingly, we should pull out

    In other words the Republicans occasionally let the majority rule

    Unlike the Democrats

  24. hamous on April 28th, 2007 at 3:33 pm

    #21 bigjolly

    Eric, tell me how Harry Ried was able to get his Iraq pull out bill through?

    I think its because the Republicans know Bush will veto the bill anyway so a filibuster by the Republicans would be pointless.

    I have faith that Bush will veto this bill too.

  25. EricPJohnson on April 28th, 2007 at 3:35 pm

    Bigjolly

    conservatives will never be in the majority, ever, the best they can do is build a coalition of moderates and conservatives to govern

    Unless you want to concede the middle ground to the Democrats who have gone to the left but won the middle ground albeit temporarily over the Iraqis non response to the war

    Pull out let the blue helmet wine sippin Eurotrash secure their own damn oil supplies

  26. bigjolly on April 28th, 2007 at 3:43 pm

    #25 Eric

    conservatives will never be in the majority

    I agree (see above). The question for me is whether it is better to form that coalition as a third party instead of working within the Republican party. Conservatives have had some success working within the Repubs but not much over the last few years.

  27. bigjolly on April 28th, 2007 at 3:44 pm

    #23 Eric

    Because Republicans are against the war

    Did I miss something?

  28. bigjolly on April 28th, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    #24 hamous

    I have faith that Bush will veto this bill too.

    I want to believe that but can’t. He’s just too timid.

  29. EricPJohnson on April 28th, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    Yes,

    over a third now are against the war Hagel, Snow, Collins, Coleman and about 10 others

    How they vote on a veto is going to be interesting.

    Its over, bring em home, if we are just doing this for national pride

    don’t they say that pride is the greatist sin?

    Its over, even if we win we would have to be the next Saddam and brutally subjugate those people.

    Let the Arabs and the Europeans sort em out.

    we did our part,

  30. american woman on April 28th, 2007 at 4:37 pm

    OK third party…… where do we start? I still think if we can raise enough money and lobby, we can buy what we need, just like everyone else.

  31. nz-texas on April 28th, 2007 at 4:54 pm

    secession is another option

  32. american woman on April 28th, 2007 at 6:14 pm

    umm if we seceed, dont we have to have leaders? and infrastructure? oh yikes the guys in black will be tappin my phone.

  33. Aggie_daddy68 on April 29th, 2007 at 7:17 am

    All,
    My recommendation is to wait until Kay Bailey decides to come bollix up Texas politics some more, and draft Paul Bettancort or Dan Patrick to the senate seat! There’s no point in getting excited before SHE makes a move - there’s no way we’ll ever remove a sitting senator, what with all the incumbent support automatically provided by the senate as well as both parties, not to mention the MSM lapdogs. The real problem is that we have to start now to identify a suitable replacement for that leader where he is now.

  34. EricPJohnson on April 29th, 2007 at 8:09 am

    33

    Kay Bailey gettin old

  35. DanielJames on April 29th, 2007 at 11:31 am

    The Titanic is sinking. Prepare yourself. May the strong and wise survive. To hell with the weak and ignorant.

    You really think the repukes blew it with arrogance and mismanagement?

    Boy oh Boy!

  36. jimb on April 29th, 2007 at 3:23 pm

    #35 - Yes, I do. I don’t buy the conspiracy theorist stuff. Sorry.

    I will say this - If people of faith aren’t allowed to refer to what that faith dictates as a sin for what it is, then the first amendment means nothing.

  37. DanielJames on April 29th, 2007 at 4:06 pm

    There is no conspiracy theory jimb.

    The ship is sinking. Yepper. The 1st mean nothing and Judas John Anti Free Speech McCain is still in office running as a conservative. He is not arrogant. He doesnt care about the Constitution. No consiracy jimbo. Facts!

    Like I said, to hell with the weak and the IGNORANT!

    It really sucks finding out that most everything you believe in is a lie.

  38. TEX06 on April 29th, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    I hate to bring it up. But the Muslims have adequately demonstrated that bombs and bullets get folks attention — even U.S. politicians. In fact they [Congress] want to cut and run from Iraq because of of a few bombs and bullets.

    We may have to come up with a little “activity” to make the Perverts and their pervert political pimps to “cut and run”!

  39. vlou on April 29th, 2007 at 6:01 pm

    We need to get rid of waste - Kay Bailey Hutchison. She is not doing her job - FACT!

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