Arguments, accusations and observations, during and after the amnesty bill debate:
“Americans feel that they are losing their country … to a government that has seemed to not have the competence or the ability to carry out the things that it says it will do,” said Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn.
…Sen. Elizabeth H. Dole, R-N.C., said many Americans “don’t have confidence” that borders, especially with Mexico, will be significantly tightened. “It’s not just promises but proof that the American people want,” Dole said.
…Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., called the vote “a victory for fear-mongering and obstruction over a bipartisan commitment to fix our broken immigration system.”
…Calling up images of Nazi Germany, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) chastised opponents for clinging to the idea that America could simply track down and deport more than 12 million illegal immigrants. “America deserves better,” he said.
“Year after year, we’ve had the broken borders,” said Kennedy. “Year after year, we’ve seen the exploitation of workers.”
After the vote, he said: “It is now clear that we are not going to complete our work on immigration reform. That is enormously disappointing for Congress and for the country.”
…Sen. Lindsay Graham, a North Carolina Republican who has been a favorite target of the bill’s opponents for his part in writing it, warned his GOP colleagues that today’s vote would be their only chance to get what they wanted out of an immigration bill. Saying Democrats would not go away and would never allow a bill that only includes a fence, Graham told Republicans to “remember this day if you vote no. You will never have this day again…. This is as good as it is going to get.”
…Cecilia Munoz, member of the national council of La Raza, an Hispanic political organization, said the Senate action left the country with no response to the immigration problem.
“That’s not acceptable … we’ll be back. It’s a question of how long,” she said.
…“Even if you disagree with this bill, don’t end this debate,” said Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.), who urged his colleagues to reject “these voices of exclusion” opposing the measure and not “say we are surrendering to these negative voices across America.”
…“Our analysis of it was it would not work,” said GOP Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama. “Our analysis was that it would result in 8.7 million more people in the next 20 years here illegally.
…“What part of ‘no’ don’t we understand?,” asked Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), who said the immigration fight had “reengaged the American people.”
…Another Republican opponent of the bill, Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana, said the vote sent a crystal clear message “that the American people want us to start with enforcement, both at the border and at the workplace, and don’t want promises. They want action, they want results, they want proof, because they’ve heard all the promises before.”
…“A big amnesty with inadequate enforcement will cause the problem to grow, not diminish,” said d Vitter, who alongside Sessions led the procedural objections to the bill. Vitter said the vote would reveal whether the Senate as a body was “arrogant” and “out of touch.”
…Democratic Senate Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid said the defeat is “not a time for pointing fingers. It’s not a time for casting blame. It’s a time for recognition that immigration is a problem that needs to be fixed.”
…And Sen. Arlen Specter, Pennsylvania Republican, said opponents should forget about waiting for a bill that will make illegal aliens go home.
“Amnesty like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder, but these 12 million are going to be here whether we legislate or not,” Mr. Specter said.
FROM YES TO NO
Here are the 18 senators who switched their votes between Tuesday and Thursday on the immigration bill:
• Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-New Mexico
• Sen. Christopher Bond, R-Missouri
• Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio
• Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kansas
• Sen. Richard Burr, R-North Carolina
• Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minnesota
• Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine
• Sen. Pete Domenici, R-New Mexico
• Sen. John Ensign, R-Nevada
• Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa
• Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky
• Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Nebraska
• Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska
• Sen. Mark Pryor, D-Arkansas
• Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska
• Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio
• Sen. John Warner, R-Virginia
• Sen. James Webb, D-Virginia
Even Rockefeller Republican John Warner couldn’t stomach this in the end.
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Defeatists will now have a pinata pity party and take a siesta afterward.
AP It was a victory for Republican conservatives who strongly criticized the bill’s provisions that would have established pathways to lawful status for many of the estimated 12 million (more like 20)illegal immigrants.They were aided by talk radio and TV hosts (Fox News/KSEV) who repeatedly attacked the bill and urged listeners to flood Congress with calls,faxes and emails.WAY TO GO lets keep the heat on
“Calling up images of Nazi Germany, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy….”
Godwin’s Law you DELETED….
sorry
PRESIDENT BUSH: “I thank the members of the Senate and members of my administration who worked so hard on the border security and immigration reform bill. I’m sorry the Senate was unable to reach agreement on the bill this morning.
Legal immigration is one of the top concerns of the American people, and Congress’s failure to act on it is a disappointment. The American people understand the status quo is unacceptable when it comes to our immigration laws. A lot of us worked hard to see if we couldn’t find common ground. It — it didn’t work. …”
quite a few dumbo’s got religion with this vote.
Dear President Bush, with all due respect, we don’t need immigration reform Sir. What we do need is enforcement of the laws that already exist. Secure the borders; now. We also need to stop harassing the law enforcement organizations that do attempt to enforce the law on those companies that knowingly hire illegals. We need to recognize American sovereignty. Finally, I agree we can’t deport them all; immediately, but we can deport them as they are found. Eventually we can deport a significant amount. Stop the entitlements and many will go home on their own. Do these things and we can talk about change. However this change needs to simplify the system for those trying to do it the right way, not for those that are here sapping the life out of our social and health systems. If your so concerned with the plight of the folks south of the border then try working with the Mexican Government, clean up some of the corruption and aid them in developing their own country. Maybe that will slow down the flow of their ‘tired, their hungry, their huddled masses, their drug dealers, thieves, murders, and rapist’. Oh, and by the way, it’s time to figure out that the “anchor baby” concept is incorrect.
Over at another blog someone mentioned that a caller to the Rush show said they needed to pass ammendments for the following
Amnesty for:
1. Senators that were involved in a vehicular homicide in July of 1969
2. Senators that were kleagles
3. Senators involved in shady land deals.
I am so glad I was wrong. After the first cloture vote I was convinced the senate would pass it on to the house and we would be doomed. I love being wrong. Now the senate is angry because we forced them to pay attention and someone or something will have to pay for their anger. They will go after talk radio with a vengeance and try to reinact the fairness doctrine. We the people cannot be informed, nor have an opinion. Our illustrious leaders know all, and will make the decisions. Fire em all.
Where is Unhyphenated American? When the going gets tough the tough get going!
AM, my hope is that the debate over fairness will smoke the phone lines more than amnestey.
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