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  1. vlou on July 6th, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    It seems as though the desperado candidates are playing the “who can get the most money” game. Does it really matter? Shouldn’t we pay attention to who would be the most effective candidate instead?

  2. Fasternu 426 on July 6th, 2007 at 1:28 pm

    Poor Mccain, selling out the Republican Party and Americans in general ain’t paying off so well. Maybe he can run for office in Meheeco?

  3. american woman on July 6th, 2007 at 1:28 pm

    If money is the decider. We will have Obama. Vlou yes you are right. Ron Paul and Mc Cain deserve each other.

  4. Rastus on July 6th, 2007 at 1:45 pm

    Ron Paul would probably be a better choice that John McSwine with Hayseed Graham joined by the nose to his backside.

  5. The Dude on July 6th, 2007 at 1:55 pm

    How humiliating that must be. Shown up by Ron Paul. I might almost feel bad for him if it wasn’t McCain we’re talking about here.

    Ha ha!!!

  6. Jaime on July 6th, 2007 at 2:25 pm

    As a contributor to Dr. Ron Paul’s campaign: HA HAAAaaaaaaaaa

    #3 “Ron Paul and Mc Cain deserve each other.”

    What in the world are you talking about?

  7. TalkinTexas.com on July 6th, 2007 at 2:31 pm

    He should go to that day labor site Mayor White is running and pass the donation plate around. That should fund his campaign for a while, ha,ha.

  8. american woman on July 6th, 2007 at 2:35 pm

    Jaime this will make you angry, but how effective has Ron Paul been as a senator? John McCain has not been effective either. They deserve each other.

  9. Gritsforbreakfast on July 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pm

    I agree, it’s a classic Nelson moment. And I agree with american woman Paul has been completely ineffective as a senator, and not only because he serves in the House.

    But y’all, Ron Paul is doing REALLY well out there. He’s honed his spiel quite admirably and doesn’t sound nearly as crazy on the stump. During his appearances on national TV he’s been compelling and on message. Meanwhile, the GOP base is fractured and looking for someone with a more Reaganite message.

    Paul won’t win the nomination, but if he keeps it up he could do a lot better than anybody here including me ever expected. You don’t raise that kind of money by accident. All I can say is “Good show, Congressman, y buena suerte!”

  10. SimpleSimon on July 6th, 2007 at 2:52 pm

    Ron Paul may have some goofy ideas from time to time, but he has one thing that McCain does not have anymore and that is integrity.

    I liked and admired John McCain once upon a time, but he has soldout and compromised every value he once held.

    His continued presence in the race has a pathetic appearence. Someone should nudge him and let him know the ship is sinking.

    Simple

  11. An Observer on July 6th, 2007 at 3:30 pm

    Poor ole Ron. Spend all that money just to find no one will vote for him anyway!

  12. gadboy on July 6th, 2007 at 4:35 pm

    what republican hasn’t sold out their party and country?

  13. Shannon on July 6th, 2007 at 4:55 pm

    lemme lemme, lemme!

    FLICK

  14. drstereo on July 6th, 2007 at 5:14 pm

    FWIW, Dr. Ron Paul has 18,288 members in meet up idiot com. More by far then any other candidate. And he has the most yahoo groups @ 70 or so. So wonder why that is not showing up in the polls. He is not one to bring in some real professional leaders. Regards DrS

  15. Jaime on July 6th, 2007 at 5:16 pm

    #8 I guess you define success by how many laws to control our life you pass? Why don’t you take a look at how many pieces of legislation Dr. Paul has authored/sponsored? And why do you think that the GOP leadership did not endorse them, like getting the uS out of the UN? Do you care about fiat money?Do you even know what all that jazz is all about? Do you care about the 9th and 10th amendments?

    #11 He has hardly spent any money, yet. And I will vote for him.

    #12 Dr.Paul hasn’t.

    Do any of y’all, Dr.Paul cynics, remember how the conservatives were screaming to the Central government go to heck? Remember those firefighters that died because water could not be scooped up from a lake? Remember when the GOP talked about State Rights and the 9th and 10th amendments? Dr.Paul still remembers. I still remember.

    Dr.Paul has a real chance at taking the nomination. We will see. And Dr. Paul will beat any Democrat nominee.

  16. Jaime on July 6th, 2007 at 5:20 pm

    #14 There is a technologically driven shift in demographics, with respect to polling.

    Many of Dr. Paul supporters are young and/or have not voted in primaries, do not have telephone land lines to their homes, read the itnernet and not newspapers. Many, like me, gave up and quit voting GOP and went 3rd party (Constitution party).

    Dr. Paul is the only reason I am, again, voting in the GOP primary.

  17. Shelbz on July 6th, 2007 at 5:50 pm

    Jaime, you sound very passionate about Ron Paul, and passion is good, but he has no chance in Dante’s Inferno of becoming Prez, imho. The #1 reason is the smear by Guiliana making it sound like he blames the U.S. for 9/11. And if he has a strong base they need to start donating- cuz cash is king in this biz.

    also #14- Romney has 28000+ friends on myspace-who cares?

  18. PBFloyd on July 6th, 2007 at 5:50 pm

    #8 & #9 Ron Paul is a in the House of Representatives, and is not a Senator: not trying to be picky but as a point of fact that should be corrected for the sake of accuracy.

    #16 Jaime: I admire Dr. Paul for his conviction in adhering our gov’t to a strict following and intrepretation of the US Constitution.

    After watching him on the debates, I just don’t think he has the mettle to be considered Presidential material, but the campaign season is still early.

    Right now it’s still pretty wide open though, it will be interesting to watch.

  19. ShinerBlonde on July 6th, 2007 at 6:38 pm

    Ron Paul has more mettle than any of the other candidates out there. He has consistently stuck to the basic principles this country was founded upon and has never “waffled” on his positions. Contrary to what some of you may believe, his support base is not all young computer geeks who have never voted. I campaigned for him at the Round Top July 4th parade (in the pouring rain, no less!) and was VERY pleasantly surprised at how many people expressed their support of him. Ron Paul is a TRUE conservative and a REAL Republican and WE NEED HIM to be our next President!

  20. Jaime on July 6th, 2007 at 6:55 pm

    What will determine Dr. Paul’s chances is the grassroots evident in the internet. I thought that Dr. Paul was along shot because so many supporters have not been involved in partisan politics. I have begun to see, from speaking to people I know, that that bridge has been crossed; I am being told that they will be voting in the GOP primary.If they follow through, as I expect, the MSM and their polling cronies will be so discredited.

    We’ll see.

  21. T-Hawkk on July 6th, 2007 at 7:10 pm

    McCain is a SELLOUT! And he believes in GLOBAL WARMING! That right there is enough for me to cast him into the dustbin of history….

    GLOBAL WARMING IS THE FRAUD OF THE CENTURY!!!

  22. ShinerBlonde on July 6th, 2007 at 8:55 pm

    I don’t want to start a debate about the merits of one presidential candidate over another, but I would like to encourage those of you who aren’t very familiar with Ron Paul to read the following speech he gave before congress last year. It addresses a number of issues discussed here on LST, in what I believe to be an honest and perceptive manner.

    http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr062906.htm

  23. T-Hawkk on July 7th, 2007 at 12:06 am

    I think Ron Paul is pretty cool except that he thinks 911 was an inside job…. hmmmmm….

  24. drstereo on July 7th, 2007 at 4:30 am

    The plane hyjackers were trained by some flight schools. I never really saw interviews with those folks on Fox News. Or on 60 minuets. Does that seem kind of unusual. I do not want to divert from Ron Paul, but there is some unsolved issues here.

  25. PBFloyd on July 7th, 2007 at 8:58 am

    That last comment is why I doubt Ron Paul as a candidate: anyone who would buy in to the folly that 9/11 was inside job is too whacked out for me!

    It is too preposterous to take seriously: so was the first attempt at taking down the towers in 93 and inside job? NO? Get a clue dude!

  26. ShinerBlonde on July 7th, 2007 at 10:52 am

    At no time and in no way has Ron Paul ever said that 9/11 was an “inside job.” If you can show me anything he has written or said that supports that ridiculous claim, I will eat my hat! I have read and re-read his platform, his speeches and writings (all online a http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=630) and found no evidence that he believes in some American-hatched conspiracy that lead to the horror of that day. He does say http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=501 that our past mistakes, namely “our foreign policy of interventionism —practiced by both major parties for over a hundred years…is an important reason 9/11 occurred.” I believe that statement to be true.

  27. PBFloyd on July 7th, 2007 at 3:02 pm

    ShinerB!

    Easy now! As far as supporting that ridiculous claim, I heard him say so on the debates; or more accurately, that 9/11 was America’s fault, which is absurd to me.

    Now if he means it because that the government agencies responsible for preempting such an attack, such as the former President, the CIA, the FBI, and a host of others because they we’re inept and derelict in the performance of their duties, I would agree.

    But, ShinerBlondie, he did go on to explain, as I heard him, that this country bore some of the resposibility for the attacks due it’s foriegn policy, whith which I completetly disagree.

    I am not willing to give those murdering bastards that killed 3000 American people absolution so easily: as far as I’m concerned, itwas them and their depraved ‘religion of peace’, which was responsible, and I have yet to hear ANY apologies from those rat ba$tards.

    Otherwise, as a Libertarian, I have always liked whet he stood for, and still have an open mind for the upcoming preseidential election.

  28. ShinerBlonde on July 7th, 2007 at 10:45 pm

    PBFloyd: You can read the transcript of the pertinent parts of the debate at http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/05/16/ron-pauls-radical-mix-truth-politics/

    And please understand - no one, not me, not Ron Paul, is giving anything remotely like absolution to the murdering bastards that killed so many on 9/11. Paul is merely trying to educate the American people on how our past foreign policy has helped foment hatred for this country. “Even before September 11th, most Americans were well aware of the hostility that many Middle Eastern nations have for the U.S. Our experiences with Iran, Libya, Iraq, and now Afghanistan have understandably soured many Americans on the entire region. Indeed, the majority of anti-American sentiment in the post-Cold War era originates in the Middle East. What many Americans don’t realize, however, is the extent to which their own foreign aid tax dollars are spent funding our current and future enemies in the region.
    We should recognize that American tax dollars helped to create the very Taliban government that now wants to destroy us. In the late 1970s and early 80s, the CIA was very involved in the training and funding of various fundamentalist Islamic groups in Afghanistan, some of which later became today’s brutal Taliban government. In fact, the U.S. government admits to giving the groups at least 6 billion dollars in military aid and weaponry, a staggering sum that would be even larger in today’s dollars.
    Bin Laden himself received training and weapons from the CIA, and that agency’s military and financial assistance helped the Afghan rebels build a set of encampments around the city of Khost. Tragically, those same camps became terrorist training facilities for Bin Laden, who uses some of the same soldiers our military once trained as lieutenants in his sickening terrorist network. Our heroic pilots are now busy bombing the same camps we paid to build, all the while threatened by the same Stinger missiles originally supplied by our CIA. Once again, the stark result of our foreign aid, however well-intentioned, was the arming and training of forces that later become our enemy.” For more on that subject, in Paul’s own words, read http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=225

  29. azrael on July 9th, 2007 at 5:32 pm

    Ron Paul has principals that influence his politics - The rest have polls that control their positions - I find this very nice.

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