Yesterday, you probably saw this tragic story by the Chron’s Mike Glenn:
Brandon Brown was driving on I-10 early Sunday when he saw the wreckage that had been snarling traffic for several hours.
Only later would he learn the car was his sister’s, and that she, her new husband and her 2-year-old son had died in the flaming wreckage. They were victims, police say, of a drunken driver whose blood-alcohol level was three times the legal limit.
Police said the driver of the van, Juan Felix Salinas, 42, was treated for minor injuries at Memorial Hermann Hospital, where his blood-alcohol level tested at three times the .08 legal limit for intoxication in Texas.
Salinas, who was out on $1,500 bond for a previous charge of assaulting a family member, is facing three counts of intoxication manslaughter, police said.
Out of curiosity, I ran the guy’s name to find what I could about his criminal record. And wouldn’t you know it? The scumbag didn’t have a driver’s license — just a Texas ID card, frequently obtained by illegal immigrants.
And sure enough, a follow-up story by Glenn confirms my suspicion:
A man accused of causing a fiery wreck that killed a family of three on the East Freeway is in the country illegally, authorities said.
Juan Felix Salinas, 42, voluntarily returned to his home in Nuevo Leon, Mexico, two years ago, officials said. But he returned to the U.S., eventually making his way back to the Houston area.
I don’t know how to put this any more plainly: the lawlessness of Central America is pouring across our southern border.
CORRECTION: An earlier version of this post mistakenly linked to the first story twice. The second link has now been corrected to connect to the Chron’s follow-up story. The staffer responsible has been beaten to a bloody pulp.
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Evidently there has been a huge increase in drunken driving in the US recently due to the millions of Mexican citizens coming here.
This fact has been covered up by the liberal mainstream media. MADD has ignored this fact out of a twisted obligation to political correctness.
Liberalism (and Salinas) killed that poor family.
King Goodhair says I shouldn’t care.
I used to find them and drunk and passed out SOUND ASLEEP at red lights behind the wheel. In Denver Harbor, The 5th Ward and pretty much every district I worked. I even topped an overpass once and had to lock up my brakes because a guy was stopped and passed out in the middle of the East Loop near Wayside. Nearly every one of them was illegal and had a Tx ID, and or a Mexico voter card. The ones that didn’t were from El Salvador or Nicaragua. This was night shift at Northeast Division. I NEVER found an Asian, Black, or White person passed out at a light like that.
Maybe it’s time to start sueing the people who aid and abet these criminals - I’m of course talking about the lawyers, judges, and politicians who condone and even promote our sanctuary policies in contravention of statutes on the books.
I don’t know how to put this any more plainly: the lawlessness of Central America is pouring across our southern border.
You must not be reading the crime stats for the country we have huge problems as well
I understand that three people would be alive today if we lived in a perfect world
Last I looked - it wasn’t perfect
If you ate dinner this week you support illegals,
if you bought food this week, you support illegals,
if you live in a house built after 86, you support illegals
if you filled up your car you support not only illegals but terrorism as well
Yes its sad and he shouldn’t have been out on bond
But its not a perfect world but there are millions of illegals who didn’t kill anyone yesterday
If any of victims had survived, I wonder if Johnny Sutton would have prosecuted them?
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Illegal or illegal - to the Brown’s it doesn’t matter. And yeah - I agree if he hadn’t chosen to break our laws or if the system had deported his sorry a$$ when they got him for family violence he wouldn’t be here to murder this family. My point is this . . .
My father was killed by a drunk driver in 1975. The legal driver got the same charge - manslaughter. Why isn’t it murder? The 18 year old and this 42 year old CHOSE to drive drunk. What’s the difference between that and choosing to pick up a gun and shoot their victims? Lord forbid we call a crime by it’s actual name.
Oh, I’m sorry. Nobody actually commits a crime. They’re all innocent. It’s all been trumped up by the system. Tell that to Brandon Brown and his family!
It would be great if there was an ignore feature on this blog as I’ve never read anything from EricP that worth my time.
Peter
What has Sutton have to do with New Jersey?
First, this possibly was gang related and NJ is trying to spin it otherwise ie gangs killing other gang members
Personally I find the deaths of those three students tragic - but I find the exposure those three (actually four) had to endure as one was possibly gang associated as equally tragic
But like I said, millions of hispanics legal and illegal didn’t shoot four kids behind a school in New Jersey this month
Nope. Spent most of last week in Canada, and cooked dinner myself the rest of the time.
Nope. That only applies if the stuff you bought was picked by illegals. Not all food is.
Sorry. Mine was built in ‘59, and added on to by myself in ‘04-06.
Actually very little of the gasoline that Americans consume in our cars physically comes from the middle east, and in oil-producing regions such as the gulf coast it’s virtually nothing. About half of US consumption is domestically produced and most of the rest comes from Canada, Mexico, and South America. Most middle eastern oil goes to Asia, Africa, India, Japan, and parts of Europe. We only hear about mideast oil here because oil as a commodity is fungible. The world price of oil pumped from the western hemisphere responds to whatever the mideast pumps out and vice versa.
Phil
The point is in Harris county the fact that you reside there you are supporting illegals - thats not in doubt
Against your will, yes, does it give them the right to kill others no
Did the 40 million Hispanics who most at one time or another were illegal kill anyone on the road yesterday
No
#5 - As usual, you miss the point™…
Not really the article was fine until the last line
One of the local stations reported last night that, in addition to the assault charge, he had a prior DUI conviction.
Hamous
People with DUI’s and assaults need to be in jail why cities don’t do this is because the funds are not there to keep everyone in jail that deserves it
Its an ugly choice, ugly
Illegal aliens with DUIs need to be deported. Once they are convicted of DUI they are no longer just immigration law violators, they are felons and there should be no question as to whether they can be deported or not.
Sorry EPJ but I have to disagree on at least one:
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Husband, kids, and I built the house ourselves, and we are legal.
Quite honestly I cannot understand why he was not deported after the first DUI. It makes no sense.
Eric, I like you, but that’s the weakest defense I’ve read in a long time.
Is that really the best thing you can say about the whole underclass of illegal immigrants?
“They’re not all murderers.”
Wow.
Hamous
Of course after they serve their sentence yep deport em in fact I’m for deporting anyone convicted of a violent felony - got some nice islands in the pacific let em do the pappy thing and swim for it
Not to mention that the act of living in a house or buying fresh produce in and of itself does not constitute active support of illegal immigration. People have to eat and live somewhere.
According to federal immigration law simply crossing the border illegally is a deportable offense.
Matt,
Yep thats correct - I think you are upset (yes the whole thing is terribly terribly upsetting) so that instead of asking the question why are we still releasing these people when we can hold them?, you punched the call for outrage button in an overheated situation you to try to characterise the entire central american population as drunk drivers that kill
No I felt you went a bit overboard in your characteristics of the border and I was equally addressing the “Browns” comments and in general the comments running rampant on the open comment session.
Lets give a hand to the millions of hispanics most from illegal roots that have become a part of our society, dying along side of us in our wars, policing our streets and paying their taxes.
Jimb
Nope, its the principle you want the cake and eat it too syndrome
Jimb
and seriously - you just hit the million dollar question - dead on target
I don’t think that’s what he did at all. He did say that this one death due to DWI was even more needless than most of them, because the perp should have never been in that place at that time in the first place…
Jimb
Not how I or anyone remotely unbiased on the subject would have seen it
The article was great until the MOTIVE was a cheap shot
Their deaths deserved a call for reform, real reform, not something that a politician can now dismiss as a borderphile rhectoric
Matt had a great post and the call for reform was replaced by anger
We are ALL angry about it but change comes form focusing on the problem not sweeping statements of regionalism
IMHO
Where did I hit the million dollar question? When I said that buying produce does not constitute active support of illegal immigration?
Let me make this very clear: I should not have to seek an “illegal labor free” guarantee when I go to the grocery store, restaurant, or to buy a house.
That should already be taken care by the enforcement of our existing laws. Which is not happening, by the way.
I submit that cost of living and/or goods would not really be any more expensive if we had indeed enforced those laws. There would be some lower profit margins in some places, and some things would be more expensive. But education, law enforcement, and medical care would be less expensive.
Besides, even if the cost of groceries and housing did go up some, so what?? We would adjust. Just like we do when gasoline or electricity gets more expensive.
#27 - we don’t need reform as much as we need the laws on the books to be enforced. As a matter of fact, if the laws on the books were enforced all along, nobody would even be talking about reform, as there would not really be anything to reform.
Matt
Drive carefully, good luck with the wedding….
Is it going to take more “brown on brown” crime where the perpetrator is an illegal alien and the victim is a Hispanic US citizen, for the Hispanic leaders to speak up against the illegal alien problem??? And if the Hispanics ever get control of government will they be willing to tax themselves more to provide for the illegal aliens?? The problem has festered itself for too long, a solution is needed, the implimentation will be a long, hard and tough road but we don’t get started we will never solve the problem.
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Jimb
Come back down to reality do you ever go to your School Board meetings and ask why the illegals are not reported?
Do you ever call into ICE when you see a construction site teaming with people piled in pickup trucks?
We all drive by you me, we have all accepted this problem until the hispanics came out in force for the Republicans and the MSM has been planting story after story after story
Been going on for 150 years for 15 months outrage has been manufactured over it
And I agree with your last post 100%
That’s a hoot. Thanks for the laugh, Mr. Kettle…
EPJ, I think you’re looking for racism where there is none. What TxAggie was referring to in #7 was the Brown family that was killed in this needless crime. That’s their sir name. To them it doesn’t matter whether he was legal or illegal. Their loved ones are still dead.
This country is being systematically destroyed for whatever reason(s).
No, I didn’t. I suggested that Central America is a much more lawless, corrupt part of the world than the United States. And it is.
Let’s look at crime in Mexico. The rate of murders in the U.S. is between 5 and 6 murders per 100,000 people. Mexico’s is more than double that, according to the UN. The incidence of kidnapping across Latin America far exceeds that of the U.S.
Transparency International’s corruption perception index ranks countries by how corrupt their citizens believe their government to be. A score of 5 is the border between having a serious corruption problem and not having one. Higher than 5 is cleaner, lower than 5 is more corrupt.
The U.S. got a 7.3. No Central American nation scored better than 4.1. Mexico got a 3.3.
I’m not tarring all Latin Americans as criminals. But facts are facts: Despite some recent progress, law and order are less prevalent in Latin America than in the United States.
Legal drunk citizen or illegal drunk alien, when you are killed by either one your just as dead. We have done alot about drunk drivers once they are caught but have done nothing to prevent drunk drivers before they get behind the wheel.
Why are gas stations allowed to sell beer? How many 24oz. Cans can they put on ice right by the door for you to buy? You either sell gas or beer.
There has to be more control of beer sales at concerts and sporting events. How many vendors deliver beer right to your seat at the baseball game versus soda? Make the beer drinker get up, climb the stairs and go get the beer.
I used to work concert security at The Woodlands, I witnessed many smashed faced drunks crawl out after a show into their car. We would hang out after the show to give the drunks time to get away.
Eric has a point, since nothing was said when the first illegal alien came across the border, we gave up all rights to complain or take action from then on. It’s not a “perfect world”.
Child rapists are let out to commit multiple murders; no problem, it’s not a “perfect world”.
We use the testimony of drug runners to convict the police; no problem, it’s not a “perfect world”.
We have 6 hour waits at our emergency rooms partially due to illegal aliens; no problem, it’s not a “perfect world”.
Poor people are dying or dehydration and heat stroke because of the actions of smugglers; no problem, it’s not a “perfect world”.
Tons of illegal narcotics stream across our southern border every day; no problem, it’s not a “perfect world”.
Latin gangs like MS13 are growing exponentially in poor neighborhoods; no problem, it’s not a “perfect world”.
Grades are declining as our schools are forced to deal with the enormous influx of non-English speaking children; no problem, it’s not a “perfect world”.
I have a question, if we should just accept all these negative things because it’s not a “perfect world”, why does so much of my paycheck go to others to try and buy them the “perfect world” that I’m not supposed to expect?
Very well said, Peter.
Yeah, cause the government taxes me and uses that money to give them free schools, health care etc.
No, but a disproportionately large number of them did obtain a service or benefit from the government at my expense and the expense of other taxpayers.
…no, he simply indicated that a disproportionately large number of them engage in various activities that tend to externalize their costs onto other members of society in the form of crime, physical harm, and, in some cases as is yesterday’s example, death. A higher crime rate is among the many prices our society pays for its open borders policy.
#38 Peter - Great post!
There is no denying that many thousands of U.S. Citizens would be alive today if we had not allowed ILLEGALS in this country.
Thing is its just as illegal to drive drunk in Mexico as it is here. I am not aware of any cultural imperative that demands that those of foreign birth take the wheel when intoxicted, in fact in most parts of the world the penalties for dui are more serious than here. Those people that choose to drive when impaired are aware of the crime they are committing and just as slimy, regardless of ethnicity or race or anything else. I might suggest however that those who could care less about the immigration laws of our country. They have pretty much decided that they will obey what laws they choose to…
The illegals that are here have shown they will not obey any of our laws. Bottom line remains if Senor Salinas had obeyed our laws…he would have never been in this country and this family would be alive today. There is no one that can dispute that.
As usual, EPJ has got you guys re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic……
The one thing that noone can refute, is, that if this ILLEGAL MF was not here, or in jail as Hammy suggested after his first offense, those two people would be alive.
Our pathetic excuse of a government is fully culpable for this, and it’s because it is replete with apologists like EPJ that we even have or are talking about this.
People here illegally should be put in jail: if there is no motive to profit from their crimes, then they will stop coming!!!!
adsfsi
The illegals that are here have been taught they do not have to obey our laws. Who is responsible to enforce our laws, the citizens of Mexico or our elected leaders?
Didn’t we just have an illegal kill his brother this weekend and they reported it is believed he has headed back down to Mexico?
I believe he abused a child who was related to him and now killed his brother.
Oh I am sorry, he is a person of interest.
#38 Peter, That was rather ingenius!
#47 My point exactly, AZ, not mention the young people who we’re executed in NJ, forced to kneel, then shot point blank in the back of their heads: ILLEGAL MF’s……..this is not a racist thing, it’s an ILLEGAL thing.
They need to have a lotto to see who gets to throw the switch on these POS’s, instead they will get lawyers from the ACLU clammering to aid them.
UNfreakin’believable, what we have been forced to put up with, an utter lack of any accountability from and a complete dereliction of duties by our pathetic excuse of as gubmint!
Welcome to BUSH COUNTRY 2007…what a disgrace he and Perry have turned out to be…next up…TERRORISTS…enjoy…
Just heard on channel 2 that his release was a clerical error. The Jacinto City officer that filed the report on the assault charge listed him as a US citizen so he was released on a $1500 bond instead of being deported.
Driving drunk is a macho thing for latin men. They are too macho to admit they are drunk. This is how it is in many latin American countries, including Mexico. They have just carried their freakin customs to this country.
Per RickG’s post above, to quote Newt:
The federal government’s incompetence, timidity and uncoordinated efforts to identify and deport criminal illegal aliens have had devastating consequences for innocent Americans,” Gingrich said, in a newsletter.
Gingrich said that the “war here at home” against illegal immigrants is “even more deadly than the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
“As an American, I am sickened that the political leadership of America could continue to go on vacation and do nothing,” he said. “Why are the August vacations for the president and the Congress more precious than the lives of young Americans who are being killed because of government incompetence and inaction.”
Here’s how I view all of this: AHEM!
I’ve been stuck on a freeway near Kingwood for hours, due to a drunk illegal, who had THREE previous convictions, killing 3 people after that. Y’know the kind of accident that you don’t want your kids to see?
Yes, we have legal citizen drunk drivers. Only difference? US citizens usually get the book thrown at them and get locked up. Illegals get set loose, to do it again. Why not deport them? Wouldn’t it help cut down on “accidental” deaths? Oh wait, this guy volunteered to go back to his homeland. My bad.
/won’t comment on anything else. NOPE, not gonna go there tonight!
“Driving drunk is a macho thing for latin men.”
I don’t think its just a latin thing, Neo. My grandfather had five that I know of. Thank God he never killed anyone or himself.
Hamous,
It is a latin, or more specifically, a Mexican thing. Not saying that other nationalities don’t do it, but the percentage is higher with hispanics. I know you won’t like hearing that and I will try to get the specifics for you from where I read it.
ST,
I think you are right. My ex-boss did a lot of DWIs and DUI’s. It was like a cattle call in court. Most were hispanics. They would come in and say they didn’t understand English, be very contrite (hat in hand, heads bowed) and the judge would talk to their attorneys and let them off. English speaking defendants got treated entirely different.
I think its more of an economic thing. More poor Irish men were drunks, more poor Italian men were drunks, more poor Mexican men are drunks. It’s a poor thing. It may look like a Mexican thing here because our population is 35+% Mexican.
But none of that matters, really. What matters is that illegal aliens should be deported, especially once they’ve committed a crime and served their sentence.
Peter
You sound like someone living in a house built with illegal labor, eating at Houston Restaurants and basically enjoying the fruits of the illegal labor market
Who let the rapist out? The Trenton New Jersey officials, who let the DUI and assault prep out, our local officials,
Blaming all of Central America for our judicial mistakes is not going to solve the problem
Matt,
If you want to really really fight crime here are two groups that have significantly higher crime rates than Hispanic Males
All Black Males 3 times higher
Poor White Males under 25
Now to me, there are more black males than not serving our country, paying their taxes, policing our streets and the same can be said for the poor white males as well
Except it seems when we get to hispanics, now they are naturally predisposed to crime as they are from a criminal region?
#59 Hammie: Yup./ooops! Me and my big mouth…sitting on hands..
If you’re gonna quote stats Eric you better include links. Not a soul here believes anything you post anymore. Not trying to be mean but dem’s da facts.
Hamous,
We;ve post the links to these numbers here on LST ad naseum they were actually a post from a story by the Chronicle
It was one of the more livlier threads
Here’s more information I’ve found
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0502.pdf
Hamous more for you I’m posting references one at a time to avoid HALitosis
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/bjsg02.pdf
Hamous,
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm
Prevalence of imprisonment in the United States
As of December 31, 2001, there were an estimated 5.6 million adults who had ever served time in State or Federal prison, including 4.3 million former prisoners and 1.3 million adults in prison.
Nearly a third of former prisoners were still under correctional supervision, including 731,000 on parole, 437,000 on probation, and 166,000 in local jails.
In 2001, an estimated 2.7% of adults in the U.S. had served time in prison, up from 1.8% in 1991 and 1.3% in 1974.
The prevalence of imprisonment in 2001 was higher for
– black males (16.6%) and Hispanic males (7.7%) than for white males (2.6%) (White males corrected for hispanic demographics such as income and education - 11.1%)
Lifetime likelihood of going to State or Federal prison
If recent incarceration rates remain unchanged, an estimated 1 of every 15 persons (6.6%) will serve time in a prison during their lifetime.
Lifetime chances of a person going to prison are higher for
– men (11.3%) than for women (1.8%)
– blacks (18.6%) and Hispanics (10%) than for whites (3.4%)
Based on current rates of first incarceration, an estimated 32% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime, compared to 17% of Hispanic males and 5.9% of white males.
So here’s the stats
Eric, that’s all well and good but I don’t find the stats you quoted in #60 in either of those links.
So with the Demgraphic corrections (most Hispanics are in Poverty 3 out of 5 blacks are in poverty and 1 out of 5 whites are in poverty roughly)
Correcting those since overwhelmingly the number of criminals are poor
Hispanics remain the same the Black rate goes way over 20% and the White crime rate climbs to 11%
So Matts conclusion about the lawlesness can be or could be statistically chhallenged?
Hamous
I hope this answers your question
Look
We can all interpret any of this but the perponderance of figures tends to support my argument rather than not
Agree or not, Hamous its worth a look.
You can get poverty stats at the Census
Look also I’m not disparaging poor people, black people, poor white males, left handed yak drivers - to me its the individual who commits a crime, and why that infivifual is out on the street in the first place
But we were casting wide regional demographic nets and I wanted some balance
For a troll - I do bring the stats not the rhetoric
Not bloody likely.
I’m not talking about Hispanics in general. Those stats you quoted include all people of Hispanic origin — native born, legal immigrants and otherwise.
In fact, I’m not necessarily talking about Hispanics at all. I also don’t want Anglos, blacks or anyone else to illegally immigrate and bring their crime-sodden customs along.
I’m talking about first-generation illegal immigrants from Latin American countries where law and order are weak, and where corruption thrives.
No, you don’t. You bring irrelevant stats — the Hispanic inmate population — then you apply arbitrary correcting factors to arrive at the inevitable conclusion that you’re right.