For those of you committed to “the only Constitutionalist in the Presidential race” (don’t believe me, just ask him), The Honorable Dr. Ron Paul, congressman from down yonder, is looking for help. He seeks a staff assistant to, among other things, answer phones and greet visitors.
There is no stated requirement that the successful candidate will believe the US invited the 911 attacks (there’s plenty of time to learn the truth later) or that we cannot survive another week without return to the gold standard. In fact, knowledge of the Hon. Dr. Ron Paul’s work is “beneficial but not mandatory” - though I suspect the uninitiated candidate might contract shell shock the first 15 minutes on the job.
So, those who so vigorously support his candidacy and defend his views, here’s your very own chance to work for Dr. No himself.
It’s only an entry level position, but I’m sure it will be quite a ride.
Plus, you get the bonus of working in that peaceful little community of Washington, DC.
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I nominate Quanell X for the position.
Wonder how much it pays?
Well, after doing research for a couple of Honorable Dr. Ron Paul posts and responding to several Pauliacs, I think I’m familiar with his work. He probably wouldn’t want to hire me, though.
#2 - Demand payment in gold. Do not, I repeat, do not accept fiat money!
I only accept payment in Kool-Aid…
Ron Paul.
I asked my libertarian daughter if she were going to vote for Ron Paul.( she’s 22) She said probably, and shrugged……I left it at that…… maybe I should let her know …. hehe
Heck, I voted for Jimmy Carter when I was 22. She’ll grow up.
8. hamous
I’m betting you were 22 in 1976, not 1980.
The contributor writes: “There is no stated requirement that the successful candidate will believe the US invited the 911 attacks.” Perhaps, this is because Congressman Paul does not believe that the U.S. “invited” the 911 attacks. There is a distinction to be made, though perhaps only apparent to facile minds that are not fixated upon promoting and defending an ideological agenda, between “inviting” an attack and pursuing a FOREIGN POLICY that has contributed to the anger that victims of such policy have have felt toward the U.S., e.g., the policies of sponsoring covert operations to overthrow governments, ostensibly beginning in Iran in 1953, and occupying Muslim holy lands, as in Saudi Arabia.
The contributor also oversimplifies and uses rather lame humor to disparage Dr. Paul’s advocacy of a sound monetary policy by referring to his desire to “return” to the gold standard. The dearth of acumen in this statement is reflected in the following comments made by Dr. Paul in an interview with the Chicago Tribune.
Question: You support returning the country’s currency back to the gold standard. Is that correct?
Ron Paul: Not exactly. I’m for supporting the Constitution, and the Constitution still says only gold and silver can be legal tender. … The reasons I don’t like to say “go back” is because there were shortcomings in the original gold standard. What I reject, and the founders totally rejected, was a paper standard - creating money out of thin air. Spending money you don’t have. Printing it up. Causing inflation. Causing bubbles. Causing recessions. And wiping out the middle class. The middle class is getting poorer as the wealthy class is getting wealthier.
And, regarding the issue of conservatism I would also ask: Which of the other candidates have actually been as consistently true to their constitutional oaths, as Dr. Paul has been? Neoconservatism does not a genuine conservative make.
“The Dearth of Acumen”– medium-good name for a rock band.
“Likkerish”– awesome name for a blog commenter.
10.
He can’t have it both ways, Likkerish. You quote Paul himself as saying “the Constitution still says only gold and silver can be legal tender.” If he is a true “Constitutionalist,” as his supporters claim, then he has no choice but to suppot the gold standard. If he doesn’t, then he’s not really a Consitutionalist (and least by the Paulites’ definition), is he?
To continue to conceptualize and describe Ron Paul as a Libertarian reflects a myopic fixation on his acceptance of the Libertarian nomination in 1988, just as he accept the plea from many individuals that he run on the Republican ticket in this campaign. The fact remains that he has been elected to 10 terms in Congress as a Republican and espouses the constitutional principles for which “Mr. Republican,” Robert Taft, became well known.
Ron Paul’s emphasis on freedom and liberty derives from his devotion to the principles laid down by the Founding Fathers. He is most aptly characterized in my opinion as a “Conservative Classical Liberal,” because he conserves the classical liberalism of Thomas Jefferson et al. In fact, Judge Andrew Napolitano, chief judicial analyst for Fox News has called Dr. Paul, “the Thomas Jefferson of our day.” Judge Napolitano has a stellar legal history beginning at a very young age.
“Kool-Aid” did not exist in the Jeffersonian era, nor does it please Ron Paul’s political palate. So, I suggest that we have heard enough of such unoriginal, juvenile allusions as “I only accept payment in Kool-Aid.”
This is a serious campaign with very serious issues at stake. I suggest that we all conduct ourselves with the decorum that they deserve and not attack and ridicule individuals who stand on principle, whether or not you agree with those principles.
You oversimplify RickG. He does support being on a hard money standard, i.e., making gold and silver legal tender acceptable as well as fiat money. But, he does not want to “return” to the gold standard, as he says, of the 19th Century.
15,
I oversimplified nothing. I used Ron Paul’s words as quoted by you. He said “only” didn’t he?
Now, if you are saying that one should not take his words literally, and he didn’t really mean “only gold and silver” as legal tender, I can accept that.
So long as his supporters quit running around saying he is the “only” Constitutionalist in the race.
I could care less as to the position of Mr. Paul on the matter of “legal tender”. However, his views on the the “9-11″ disaster send me running from his camp.
Article 1 section 10 of the constitution only provides for the states to use gold and silver in coinage…….
The lizards are here!
http://www.reptoids.com/
heyhey–hey-heyhey–hey…what’s up with the libertarian bashing? The “crazy kids with their appreciation for liberty” comment is saddening to me. Your daughter must be an economics major.
Um, joking? Irreverent commentary? Juvenile? Perhaps, but the point is that I don’t want to take myself too seriously. I have numerous problems with Ron Paul’s candidacy, primary among which is that I perceive him to be a bit of a kook.
AN OBSERVER —
AN OBSERVER — Wow, strong ignorance.
I am not sure how many uninformed people will keep saying Ron Paul said 9/11 was “our” fault. I mean, get informed people. This “war” mentality that you all have, and the righteous shall perserver is downright stupid. Our foreign War policy does NOTHING for American. If you THINK they care about terrorism, then why the phukk are our borders WIDE OPEN and have been for 6years even thought we have the toughest immigration laws in the books than ever before?
Our foreign policy of intervention. That IS THE PROBLEM. Let me come camp out on your front porch for a few years and prevent you from getting food and watch your children starve to death… don’t you think after a bit, you’d come out and attack me.. ??
Ron Paul was an Air Force flight surgeon, served in the National Guard. He as ALWAYS voted for veteran benefits.
I am not sure why you all feel that this war in iraq is just, and its “okay”.
I mean, didn’t anything ring false with any of you when Bush tried to get that Shamnesty thru congress without it even being written? It had LESS security provisions in it that laws ALREADY on the books… And why is there only 13miles of fence built.. BECAUSE the intent was to give amnesty all along, to not have borders. Yet, aren’t we suppose to be afraid of terrorism? Doesn’t it all not make much sense???
Now, for those of you who don’t care about “sound” money, that right there tells me one of two things.
1. You are trust fund babies who have NO CONCEPT of money.
2. You do NOT understand the need to have money backed by something other than the paper it is printed on.
How and why do you think inflation takes place? Why are these BIG banks floundering… The lack of knowledge here is absolutely incredible…
WAR, TERROR, WAR, TERROR, TERROR, TERRROR….
And yes, Ron Paul is the ONLY TRUE constitutionalist running. Nobody comes close…
jimb
I don’t think you will find ONE candidate that meets all of your requirements. But why don’t you do this. trust me on this, and step outside your comfortable little walled in world. Take some time tonight and watch this movie.
Freedom to Fascism by Aaron Russo.
This is not a plug for Ron Paul, but what it does is gives you an idea that “what you think you know, its really what is the truth”.
GOOGLE it on goole video… watch it. It starts a tad slow (first 10 minutes).
Watch it.. and then ask yourself. “Who really are the kooks now….”
Sigh
Go listen to the tapes of Ron Paul that are unedited, in his own voice and golly gee willikers his face to. Goodle and Youtube are your friends.
Ron Paul is an isolationist, hypocritical politician, hate America first kind of guy. Other than that for a wacko he ain’t bad.
And PUHLEASE bring something more than the PrisonPlanet and Infowars talking points next time.
Toodles Lard
I don’t know if you’re new here or not, but it appears, that you don’t know me well. I have a healthy distrust of many of the current Republicans, the Dems are right out, but I am not so sure about RP, either.
Oh, by the way. I know that. I wasn’t expecting to. But Ron Paul doesn’t meet many of my requirements.
I don’t buy the “Bush lied us into war” from RP any more than I buy it from Teddy Kennedy.
Oooh, scary.
Proof?
These things are from RP’s own website. He’s gotta do better than that to get my vote.
Holy Crap we have been invaded by the RP ACOLYTES
Perhaps the Lone Start Times should look for another journalist as well… one capable of understanding economics and the benefits from an austrian school of thinking regarding monetary polic vs. the debt sham today. Also one that could understand that Ron Paul does not believe the US invited 911 attacks; perhaps a reporter that had the ability to read the 9/11 Commission Report, Osama’s own letter, conclusions of the CIA, etc… It appears not much journalistic skill is necessary for a job these days so apply early!
God, how many of you Paulers have even spent five minutes in the same room with the guy? And just because Paul walks around with a copy of the Constitution in his pocket doesn’t make him a Constitutionalist. If that is the case, I’m gonna buy a copy of the PDR and become a brain surgeon.
What he is is a 1940 Republican. An isolationist, who thinks that there has never been ANY reason for the U.S. to enter a foreign war.
#23, so what if Paul was in the military? So was John Murtha and John Kerry. Does that give him a pass on every stupid policy he has? Like his method of complaining about pork barrel projects saying they should never be allowed and then loading a bill up with his own knowing that the bill will not pass, or if it passes, will be vetoed by the President. That way he has it both ways; he didn’t get his pork but he can tell his district he tried.
#14, would you call Paul a state’s rights kind of guy?
jimb, you don’t believe 9/11 was used as a pretext for entering iraq? what? check out the movie “why we fight” - it’s available on youtube.
if you don’t think we’re heading into an orwellian society check out google videos, “outfoxed” and “orwell rolls in his grave” - how off from the ministry of truth is mainstream media today?
rudy is a big fan of cameras, look at london today - FOUR MILLION CAMERAS. is there any doubt big brother is watching you? “i’d give up a little bit of liberty for some freedom” from a londoner - is this not doublespeak? do we not have a vaguely defined perpetual war on something you can’t actually beat?
i’m working on consolidating more factual vs. conspiratorial information regarding the CFR/NAU. don’t pretend like it doesn’t exist though. please watch the videos above before expounding upon any critique of them.
retire05 he is a non-interventionalist, not an isolationist. this has been stated oh, i don’t know. 100 times?
do you doubt that current foreign policy has created more enemies than ever? do you realize how similar current foreign policy is to nazi germany?
i’m going to see superbad now. you guys scare me. terrorists don’t scare me near as much as some of my fellow americans. goodnight.
RickG drew the RP card today. Wahoo!
The way you worded the question suggest that you believe that “Bush lied”, so no, I don’t believe that 9/11 was used as a pretext for entering Iraq.
Near-miss with Godwin’s law? Why don’t you tell us?
I’ll consider watching your videos, but I’ve seen much of it before…
RickG was suffering acute Hamis Envy, brought on by the troofer thread earlier.
This is a site for silly HillBillies. Get it?
HillBilly. Dr Ron Paul is the only candidate for freedom. He is the only candidate who understands that the stack of cards economy owned by the Chinese is about to collapse just like the Comptroller General said. I think you HillBillies will be happy when the rest of the infrastructure collapses just like that bridge and we spend another $1 trillion on another Neocon War - this time with Iran.
I watched the trailer for “outfoxed”. You have got to be kidding me. First, I rarely even watch Fox news on TV (roughly about the same as I watch any of the Alphabet networks or CNN), and for another thing, I don’t think that people’s deranged hatred of Fox News, whether it be good, bad, or indifferent, has anything to do with whether or not RP is a good candidate.
Most print, TV, or cable news is biased and with its own agenda. Fox News has no special lock on that. I think for myself, it works fine.
Pretty far, actually. And you guys wonder why I think Paul is a bit of a kook…
I have spent more than five minutes in the same room with him. Hours, actually. The man has an astonishingly quick intellect. You say he is a kook. I say he is anything but a kook. Now where are we? Is-too-is-not?
I urge anyone whose opinion is not set in stone to read up and watch the youtube videos in which he speaks. There’s one from months ago in which he lectured Ben Bernanke about easy credit, mal-investment, and financial bubbles that is startling in retrospect.
Here’s an extra added bonus. Even if you send back the presidential bid for a full refund, keep what you learn about the economy as a free parting gift. If you have any savings, you might be able to survive to utter economic collapse that inevitably will come if we continue business as usual. Start at lewrockwell.com and mises.org.
Ron Paul fish, welcome to our barrel.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. So he understands that easy credit is a bad thing. Is that too shocking?
/ducking and running from BigJolly…
“This is a site for silly HillBillies. Get it?”
How not to convince someone you are not a raving loon 101
Retire05
Exactly our point, he doesn’t just walk around with the Constitution in his back pocket, he has 20 year voting record to prove he is a Constitutionalist.
Voting against everything doesn’t a Constitutionalist make. A contrarian maybe. If he’s such a Constitutionalist, why does hey participate in the pork game? No amount of spin fixes that…
You really didn’t just mention that freaking broken clock!!!!!!! Did you??????
I’m gonna smash that sucker someday………..
I did it all for you, man.
Dang, your pager must go off when someone types “broken clock” into LST…
edw987 / Oh Sure, We Get It ! Yeehaa !
Come and listen to a story about a man named Jed
A poor mountaineer, barely kept his family fed,
Then one day he was shootin at some food,
And up through the ground came a bubblin’ crude.
Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea.
Well the first thing you know ol’ Jed’s a millionaire,
Kinfolk said Jed move away from there
Said Californy is the place you ought to be
So they loaded up the truck and moved to Beverly.
Hills, that is.
Swimmin pools, movie stars.
The Beverly Hillbillies!
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Sung at the end of the show:
Well now its time to say good-bye to Jed and all his kin.
And they would like to thank you folks fer kindly droppin in.
You’re all invited back again to this locality
To have a heapin helpin of their hospitality
Hillbilly that is. Set a spell. Take your shoes off. Y’all come back now, y’hear?
Certain keywords ring my bell.
I sorta like bein’ a Hillbilly. With my trailer and all, ya know?
jimb
Obviously you think too much of yourself “if we don’t know who you are” who cares who you are
So who is your candidate that you are sooooo proud of - I will tear him or her “laugh” up so fast it will make your head spin like Bush’s during an exorcism.
But you probably don’t have one, so lets tag ya with the new national id and send you out like a FedEx Next Day and will track your next batch of silly one liner comments.
BigJ is trailer-fabulous!
BTW: Did you enjoy your 2 LB sirloin today?
Like a swine in slop.
Yo, lawson2008, what are you runnin’ for?
Do you even know the good doctor? I ran a business in his district. You?
Not at all. I just don’t think it makes much sense to tell me about the “comfortable little walled in world” I live in when you’ve never really discussed anything with me other than the fact that I don’t think that RP is the best candidate, and something of a kook.
And I admit that I haven’t settled on a candidate yet, but like I said, the Dems are right out, and the Republicans aren’t looking extremely great. That doesn’t mean I live in a “comfortable little walled in world” either.
Speaking of silly little one-liner comments…
I just find it entertaining that if we aren’t in favor of RP, then we’re (fred) “hillbillies” or we live in a comfortable little walled in world. Watch out, or Benzene will whack you with his Sword of Righteousness for attacking the commenter rather than discussing the comment in a mature way.
pssst….Huc…ee
#56 - I don’t know. You can’t trust those bass playing Dudes…
#50 lawson2008
Just overwhelmed with your eloquence. Does it get any better or is this the top of your act, man ?
Naw, I don’t think the Sword of Righteousness will swing on creative commenters. Gotta admit, this acolyte is bringing it.
Of course you can trust bass players, just listen!
I know. Just wanted to say Sword of Righteousness today. It’s better than that dang broken clock, no??
Uh, yeah, I’ll take it!
Speaking of which, I am going up into my comfortable little walled in room, getting out my guitar and tuning it up.
How ’bout this? BigJ, if I don’t report to you somehow each day that I’ve played my guitar for at least a few minutes each day, you can, I don’t know, embarrass me on LST or something? Or perhaps dig up my email and berate me there?
Something. I need someone to “spot me up”, so to speak. I always make up excuses not to play…
I’ll spot you up. If you didn’t like the song I recommended to learn, go to youtube and search for daniel choo. Good stuff.
Took my new Taylor DN3 in for a setup today at LSG. Expression System is the real deal.
Can’t wait to get it back.
jimb
The broken clock analogy/metaphor window is closed. You have used up all your cliche tickets and whatever pardons and commutations might have had have been shredded by your wife. You are in deep trouble.
Now really, is he any crazier than say Algore? Michael Savage? Louis Farakahn? A few others? I think not.
Yeah, she did that last nite. She apparently borrowed the Sword of Righteousness from Benzene…
Rastus - the voice of reason.
I wouldn’t vote for Algore, Savage, or Farrakhan, either…
Yeppers the RPAcolytes are out in full force.
Hey do you guys get paid to surf the technorati board to see which blogs are dissing whacko Ron Paul?
Gotta a agree with you there Rastus. That guy is whack.
You know whay I won’t vote for Ron Paul?
The representative sample of his supporters here tonight is all the reason I need.
I need to go find some Code Pinkos so I can have a conversation with someone rational—–
I knew daniel’s brother, Kookooka. We went to different schools together.
BTW, BJ:
Is conjuring up the RP Platoon the only way you could think of to compete with Hamous for post count?
I’m not sure this country is ready for a strict conservationist!
#70 Squawk
Good post. Nice work. I saved it for future reference.
#75 Neo
I agree. I don’t think we can stand any more militant tree huggers, squirrel lovers or swamp suckers.
Didn’t Ron Paul say must be strict conversationists? We must conserve our money into gold or silver? In additon, we must conserve our constitution as it is written or something like that? How about we conserve our land and not go beyond our borders in defense of our Country. Is that to conserve our peace here in the USA? When all of the countries of the free world are defeated, what will our role be?
Sarge, did you happen to READ the freaking post? It wasn’t me that posted it. Remember…before you press CTRL-C, CTRL-V, READ IT!
Oh, and I don’t need to compete with the hamster, go back and review, he’s like, I dunno, on a stationary wheel or something.
I gotta tell ya though, comments ain’t where the bandwidth is at. Just so you konw.
jimb
I’d be interested to see the “pork barrel” spending that you think Ron Paul does. If you do have some examples, please share.
Perhaps you are confused with “ear mark” spending and the nature of appropriations bills.
With “ear-mark” type spending, the money is or will be appropriated to a task by the appropriations bill, and Paul votes against the bill. SO, for instance congress might try to pass a bill that appropriates $10 million to study shrimp. Ron Paul will say “That’s a stupid waste of money and I’m going vote against the bill” and he does vote against it. But at the same time, his constituents include shrimpers, and they could be elligible to get some of the money that congress is peeing away. So, rather than let some unelected beurocrat decide how to divy up the $10million, Ron Paul will request that some of that money go to his district. He doesn’t want to spend the money at all, nor does he want to tax it in the first place, but if congress insists on spending money so foolishly, it’s the least a congressman can do to try to get some of his own taxpayer’s money back to his district.
Would congressman Paul be more worthy of respect if he never requested any funds went to his district and instead allowed, and by not asking even encouraged, all federal taxes from his district to be spent elsewhere in the country?
I feel inclined to blow my mind
Get hung up, feed the ducks with a bun
They all come out to groove about
Be nice and have fun in the sun
I’ll tell you what I’ll do - What will you do?
I’d like to go there now with you
You can miss out school - Won’t that be cool
Why go to learn the words of fools?
Gee, no one has a sense of humor any more!
I thought it was conversationalists and all these acolytes were demonstrating that they were practitioners of pusilanimous polysylabic protestations in order to be considered for exquistely enjoyable employment.
All’s I can say is that my ex walked into a divorce court room toting a bible. The only time I EVER saw him in a church is the day we got married.
Have any of you ever looked at his voting record and earmarks? I’m all for the Save our American Shrimp earmark, BTW! Hey, earmarks are gonna happen, and he was just getting us some dibs on the money.
Seems to me like some here could switch jobs and be gainfully employed to support RP.
Hillbillies? They are usually barefooted and pregnant. I consider myself a Redneck and darn proud. I wait until AFTER the funeral to fight over the crap in the yard, therefor, I’ve got class! I also pour my beer in a cup, during the funeral. Don’t want to hear that PShhhht, during the sermon, don’t cha know!
Golly, BJ;
I thought this whole internet blog thing was a post count contest.
my bad.
ST, you really aren’t going to give these guys your roadkill recipes, are you?
Short answer:
Yes.
Sarge, put your thesaurus away.
sarge, it’s okay, I know you have other things on your mind at the moment.
#86: No. They are not worthy of my Poodle Pot Pie recipe.
Oh–
So it’s ME you’re jealous of, not Hambone.
Yep.
But….isn’t everyone jealous of you? I am not alone.
Yah—but I like the one you had with 4 and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie–
At least I think that was your recipe–
maybe I’ve spent too much time at Itchycoo Park.
Ithcycoo was Daniel and Kookooka Choo’s daddy—didja know that?
I am an IDOL it’s only natural.
BTW BJ;
You don’t fool me with that “It wasn’t me who started this thread” stuff—
I can prove through the use of geometric logic that there is a duplicate set of keys to the thread starter—–
But but but, Didn’t bahbah Ron say he was FOR smaller government and cutting spending? Why yes he did. So I suppose it is OK if he joins in the earmark marathon.
OH SILLY ME he voted against his own ear marks and that makes it okie dokie, even though his ear marks probably will be approved.
Why I do believe bahbah Ron is a hypocrite using the system to gets his own bit of cracklin, so he can be cacklin to the “conservationalist” and “librarians” out there.
Ron Paul 2008 Yeppers just more of the same wrapped in another liars political skin. Did I mention Ron Paul was a whack job?
Ron Paul is a whack job.
Ya gotta love these RPAcolytes
“worthy” Ron Paul
“honorable man” Ron Paul
“Dr.” Paul
Tell the truth, do y’all really set around in your underooos playing whack-a-mole while sipping the KoolAid?
I just had to figure out some way to work in a Captain Queeg reference into the Ron Paul thread—-
BTW: Isn’t pork barrel spending and ear marks the same thing? Sorry, I’m just a dumb redneck. I need some edukashun.
#94 Sarge, no that wasn’t my recipe. Wish I could claim it, however.
100?
Got a recipe for pork barrel leavings?
Yes ST
Pork barrel spending and ear marks are the same. You might call the ear marks a purse made from a sows ear.
101
Here ya go
Illustrated and annotated
http://www.deltablues.net/cracklin.html
#101 Sarge: Why off the top of my head, yes, yes I do. Hopefully Hammie could add to it:
Obtain one big ol’ fat pork barrel
Trim all fat.
Nothing left.
substitute salad for supper and enjoy!
And my all time favorite saying form the RPAcolytes
“How can you say anything bad about the honorable Dr. Paul?”
And then they flame you.
#80 bdmarti
Ask and ye shall receive:
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/allpolitics/0706/popup.congress.earmarks/pdfs/tx.14.paul.pdf
Man, these freaks are like roaches! Or maybe these guys.
Dang Hammie! Next time you have a file that big, you should issue a warning. Darn, free, dial-up, don’t cha knos! You darn near killed my ‘puter. I had to ABORT THE MISSION!
Seriously doubt bdmarti, et-al, will be back. I will hold my breath, however!
Dang, them Paulinians are an angry bunch! How dare you besmirch or question the good name of Dr Potentate!
Ya know ya wouldn’t peg them as raving a-holes if they would make a rational argument. And by argument, not a screechy diatribe. A coherent counterpoint would do. If they wanted us to look further into the Illustrious Potentate, they should take a breath and try communicating without redlining the whole time. Relax, man. He’s not going to walk on water any time soon. His supporters to me seem like they could attempt a beer hall putsch. Well, maybe a Piggly Wiggly putch. But a putch nontheless. I imagine them in their underwear screaming and spitting breathless praises of their Constitution-in-his-pocket Messiah.
I dunno what to call them myself.
Paulinians (like the apostle)
Paulaners (like the beer)
Oh, I know, unstable.
#107 Hammie: Rumor has it that the Cap’n made a toupee outa them!
107
Can we beam ‘em off the ship?
ST - the file (~3.5mb) was a list of all 65 of the Honorable Reverend Doctor Ron Pauls pork requests for FY 2007. Of course the response from the RP chuckleheads will be, “But he voted against the pork before he voted for it!”
Paulines - Like Pralines. Soft, sticky, and nutty.
112
Stop ham you’ll make ‘em mad
http://www.mashby.com/images/posts/skinny_kid.gif
Know why?
Here it is:
Short answer:
Yes.
When confronted with that answer to that question they realize that they have become what they accuse verybody else of being:
A defender of an imperfect Candidate who somjetimes stretches the truth to make a promise.
Thye know that his requesting the earmarks—voting against them before he votes for them—is EXACTLY the the same thing they say everybody else does.
But they have become so invested in him personally—and they get to use all those big words sounding intelligent while the cheetos fall from their lips to the keyboard, that they won’t admit it until it stares them right in the face.
He’s not the answer, he’s as human as the rest of them. If that’s what we’re getting, we can do better than Ron Paul.
We don’t need a Tom Dewey for the 21st Century.
Watch out! That Pauliniac has a grenade!
G’nite. I’m going to go to bed and dream of how Dr Paul will make the world better…. and give me a pony.
Earmarking and Pork Barrel spending aren’t necissarily the same thing.
From the legislative process point of view they may be exactly the same, but the “pork barrel” label generally implies that the spending is directed to constituents or companies directly in return for their votes or money.
Ron Paul doesn’t have many corporate sponsors. You can see who donated to some of his recent congressional runs online. When I looked at one recent list, the highest donation I saw was from a Local car dealership.
If you can find any earmarked project that benefited one of his campaign donors directly, then that might be pork barrel spending.
Or if you can find some voters in his district that say they voted for him because he inserted spending for them and then voted against the bill for show, then you might also be more justified in calling that particular project a “pork barrel” project. The key is the voters must be voting for him because he inserts the earmarks, and not for some other reason, like actually perfering Paul over his opponent.
There are blatent examples that can be cited where other polititians have pushed projects directly to their campaign contributers, and in particular large corporate contributers. I don’t think you’ll find that is the case for Paul. You’d need some big money contributors before you could be corrupted by them.
Wild American Shrimp?
And now comes the “Well, money was already allocated. If the Honorable Reverend Doctor Ron Paul didn’t take it someone else would spend it.”
and sarge, I don’t know that what Paul does “is EXACTLY the the same thing they say everybody else does.”
In fact, I find that voting against the spending in the first place is the best place to thwart the spending. Once the money is spent, I don’t see why it’s better to allow some random person in whatever agency the money goes to to arbitrarily budget the funds.
I’d personally prefer the my congressman vote against the taxes and the spending, but once they’ve taken my money and voted to spend it, it would be nice if I could benefit in some way.
If you honestly feel that it is more worthy of respect to never request money for your district, I can understand that, but I don’t agree.
#118: Thank you very much for ’splaining that to me.
Ron Paul for President!!!!
marti:
You answer to this question
would be the same as mine was—-if the question were asked of any other politician than Ron Paul.
You know it.
I know it.
Everybody knows it.
Your problem is this:
Your Candidate went to the Pork Barrel Prom, told mom and dad she wouldn’t stay up past midnite or go parking with Johnnythe Quarterback—and came home a little bit pregnant.
#9 RickG - Actually, I misspoke. After doing some ciphering (you know us hillbillies) I voted for Jimmy Carter when I was 19, not 22. And that was 1976.
No sarge, my answer wouldn’t be the same.
I’d actually look to see if any earmarked programs went to directly benefit those who contributed money to the polititian in question’s campaign. The bigger the contributer, the more I would question the earmarked spending.
Cases where money is earmarked for corporations or companies that are directly owned by the polititians in question would be the worst sort of earmarks in my opinion.
So, the long answer is: You’re wrong. I don’t know it. You don’t know it. Everybody doesn’t know it. Your stating something is a fact doesn’t make it so. Your presumption that you would know my, or anyone elses answer is simply absurd.
My candidate went to the pork barrel prom? cute.
To me, it’s a difference worth noting.
You can kill a man in self defense and most people will excuse you morally.
You can murder a man and most people won’t excuse you morally.
In both cases, the man in question is dead.
One is at least tolerable and understandable to me morally. The other, not so much.
That’s how I see this issue of earmarks.
I can understand why you might say “all killing is bad” just like you seem to say “all earmarks are pork and thus incrminating and indicative of corruption”…I just don’t happen to take that moral stance. I think the circumstances matter.
marti:
Your canddiate has put himself out there as something he’s not:
Different from all the others.
You began following him because you beleived it.
Now, you find yourself making the same excuses every other poltical hack makes for their candidate in the face of facts proving he’s not waht he says he is.
Ron Pual has turned youn into one of them.
You both should be proud.