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Today marks the 40th anniversary of the execution in Bolivia of Argentine-born Ernesto “Che” Guevara while trying to foment a Cuban-style revolution among the peasants of Bolivia. The peasants turned on him.
For some inexplicable reason he is now a hero to Hollywood leftists and countless numbers of spoiled rich, white kids. At least some capitalist is profiting on his image printed on t-shirts. I wonder if the terrorist would have grasped the irony there.
“To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary…These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We must create the pedagogy of the The Wall!” –Ernesto ‘Che’ Guevara
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The biggest insult is the failure of the leftists to recognize that he was “terminated” by his “like buddies.”
You know, I never saw “Motorcycle Diaries”, so can anyone who saw it tell me if they mention all the people he murdered?
You know how in some movies like Animal House or American Grafitti they say what happens to the character later. In “Motorcycle Diaries”, does it say “Che goes on help lead the Cuban Revolution and murders hundreds of political enemies while ordering the execution of thousands of others without any form of trial.”
I’m just curious.
I refused to watch “Motorcycle Diaries” but that would have been cool:
“Che Guevara - turned on by his comrades and executed like the murderer he was. His hands were chopped off and pickled in formaldehyde for future identification in case Castro tried to deny his death.”
The high art of liberalism: celebrating what you do not fully understand.
#4, spot on. It’s also an avenue for plausible deniability when the bogus belief craters and is exposed. The “Duh, I didn’t know all that, nobody told me there was a downside to this dude, are you sure?” excuse. Accompanied of course by a deer in the headlights expression.
I’ve had 2 idiot liberals tell me “what a great movie The Motorcycle Diaries are….” and I tell them I don’t watch pro-communist movies. They look at me like the liberal zombies that they are, with a complete lack of intellect in their minds.
Shame on all the useful idiots who praise communism while living free and getting prosperous under Capitalism….
Real news stories anywhere out there???
It appears that this line is going nowhere.
Maybe just a Monday thing.
#6
Not too long ago, I was at a Starbucks waiting to get the only drink there I like, Vanilla Frapachini, and a guy in front of me was charging his coffee and danish. Since he was wearing one of those Che shirts, I politely asked him, “Doesn’t the act of charging $10 for a coffee and muffin seem a little contradictory to wearing a Che t-shirt?”
He responded, “Have you seen Motorcycle Diaries?”
I countered, “Not until they release the sequel that shows him ordering the execution of thousands of politcal prisoners.”
He asked, “What are you talking about?”
I told him not to worry about it and ordered my drink.
I do wish I could have caught him in the parking lot to ask what he paid for his VW convertible, but he was driving off as I came out.
Peter, I have this Che shirt. I make a point to wear it whenever I go to a club, like in Rice Village, where I know those types of people will be present. It’s really funny to watch them come unglued.
I keep a single-page biography of Che in my briefcase to give students wearing Che shirts at the high school where I often sub.
I don’t usually see them wearing the shirt a second time.
Good for you! Dang, we need more teachers like you.
I did a photoshop to celebrate this day last year, back when we thought Fidel was room temperature, too 9or is it Zombie Fidel now?)
Sadly, my image host deleted it… It involved Fidel, Che, and them performing a line the possessed Linda Blair says in the movie “The Exorcist”….
It’s so funny how you US Citizens talk about something you don’t know as if you do. Do you know ANYTHING about Guevara? Do you know ANYTHING about Cuba’s dictator Batista? Do you know think that someone who fights to liberate a country from a dictatorship is a terrorist? In that case you must think that George Washington was a terrorist. Do you know ANYTHING more that what you see on your TV? Do you think that living under a government like yours, that missinformes you, that lies to you, that doesn’t want you to know what’s really going on on the world is living in freedom? Maybe i, like most of the people on this planet, live in a poor country, with a corrupt government (as most of the countries governments are). But they steal our money, not our abilitie to think or learn. We don’t take seriously what our governments say. We know how they where, how they are and how they are going to be. You, are all free.. to buy things. We are free to think.
I don’t remember reading anything about George Washington executing our enemies without trial for the sake of “Revolution”. My issue is, like most of the comments above, that people wear his likeness and really have no idea who he is. I would have more respect for someone that said, “Yeah, I know he was a homicidal maniac, that’s why I wear the shirt” than people that have no clue. I live in NYC where this crap is out of control.
Granted #13, Batista wasn’t a treat, but I don’t think the alternative was any better.
you are all complete morons (aside from #13). …and i am an american, as well. so are all you losers pro bush, war, and capitalism too? and what the hell do you know about communism, socialism or any alternative social system, or revolution? i agree it is stupid that he has become part of pop culture on a t shirt, and that most of the people who wear the shirt don’t know much about him. but i think all your comments are completely ignorant.
There is something I always wanted to ask america:
Why are you all so afraid of communism??
Do you even know what happened during the Cuba- crisis? The people living there were oppressed by the dictator Batista and Che Guevara wasn’t going to let that happen anymore. He did what he had to do, it was a revolution and of course there were going to be casualties!
And how can you americans even comment about this, I mean, how many people haven’t you killed in wars started by your presidents?! And it’s all for nothing, you didn’t gain anything just more enemies! You don’t even have a good reason to go to war, let’s face it you just wan’t the oil but you are to cheap to just buy it! And to call Che a terrorist that’s just lame, everyone is a terrorist in your opinion when the truth is; You are the real terrorists, a capitalist state that think it’s better than the rest of the world. -Nobody likes you!! So shut up about Che Guevara!
He was a great man who did some bad things for a good cause. And I totally agree with #13 and #15!!
Hasta La Victoria Siempre comrades!
// Greetings from Sweden
In 100 years someone will make a movie about our great USA nation… and it won’t be a nice one.
I am doing an assignment for my grade 7 Spanish. Do I ever agree with # 13, 15, and 16. I am not an American, but I am from a democratic country. I chose this assignment because I wanted to find out more about Che Guevara, since I knew on the one hand he was part of the socialist revolution in Cuba, but on the other hand hero especially for many teenagers in my country. In my research I found both good and bad about Che, I have not really made up my mind yet ( and I do not wear a Che T-shirt), but the first 12 comments and 14 certainly support what I often hear about American’s blind faith in their political leaders.
Che may have fought a bloody fight, but at least the purpose wasn’t oil and money.
Lonewolfhowl, Che Guevara said the following things:
“Go ahead and try them tomorrow morning — but execute them NOW!”
“My nostrils dilate while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood.”
“We don’t need proof to execute a man. We only need proof that it’s necessary to execute him.”
“I’d like to confess, papa, at that moment I discovered that I really like killing.”
He wasn’t a hero. He was a murderer.
Firstly, to the author: Che is only physically dead and you helped to prove that by posting about him.
It’s so sad that you people see this man as nothing but a murderer because innocent people were killed when he fought for a very worthy cause. In that case you all need to stop pointing fingers because America is doing the same (if not worse) in Iraq right now. Please, for your own sakes, analyze situations intelligently. Do not bash communism because that’s the norm or because that’s what you are accustomed to. People like Che Guevara and Fidel Castro ought to be applauded. They had to have done something right, after all, Cuba is not in a terrible condition right now. People may not be living extravagantly but unlike capitalist societies, there aren’t starving people there. And for a country with an embargo for the past few decades, Cuba’s economy is doing rather well. (Take a look @ the education & health statistics as well, amazing!) Admittedly, I was once skeptical of communism and the whole Cuban ordeal but if you really look into it, something really great has been created on that island. I believe that all nations should take a lesson from Cuba, and if people are afraid to be that drastic there is always Socialism. I hope Cuba experiences continued success although Fidel handed the country over to his brother, Raul. Raul fought in these wars alongside his brother and Che so I really hope he’ll lead in the best way possible!
Ps. I don’t own a Che t-shirt… but I probably should get one.
Oh brother.
How you doing Choam? Glad you could make it to our little corner of heaven.
I am an American. I do not belong to leftist or rightist parties. I do my research and come to my own conclusions. I believe in common sense and no party in America has that right now.
Those who claim liberals are deer caught in headlights are guilty of the same that they accuse: not knowing all the facts.
While Ernesto “Che” was trying to overthrow Batista, our government was SUPPORTING a DICTATOR. To all of you conservatives/republicans/whatever that toot the horn of FREEDOM and RIGHTS do you realize the U.S. was supporting a man who REVERSED 275 of Cuba’s constitutional rights? Do you realize this man, Batista, was living in Fort Lauderdale, FL instead of CUBA?
The Motorcycle Diaries does not promote communism. It is about Che’s early life and what led him to his beliefs such as poverty and ruin of indigenous people that WE COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND. So maybe now you are the ones who can fumble and say…gee, I didn’t know that.
The problem with conservatives/republicans is that they believe what they are fed. They don’t think for themselves. They believe whole heartedly in everything that is told to them by a country that is ruled by THE DOLLAR. Guess what, America has been fed as much propaganda as any other country has.
Was Che’s violent actions appropriate? As humans we like to say no, but NO AMERICAN has EVER lived in the conditions that he has. Have you ever lived in a leper colony? have you ever watched people give away their children because English colonialism forced them from their land and they now have no food or home? DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT OR ARE YOU IN DENIAL?
Stop closing your mind and believe America’s way is the only way. As Che once said (and I’m paraphrasing here) We don’t tell you to end segregation and racial discrimination, how can you tell us what we need to do to be accepted?
WHO THE HELL IS AMERICA? We are brainwashed. We are ruled by profit. We know NOTHING of what goes on in the rest of the world but what is fed to us by our corrupt government, and our corrupt media. That’s cool though, keep living in your bubble and passing your judgements.
I can’t fault a man who fights for the betterment of people’s lives like Che did. But I can fault someone who makes a decision based upon how fat it will make his wallet.
# 20 and # 22 are both right. And I will put this in terms you might understand : GOD gave you a brain USE IT! If you believe that God created you all and gave you all your abilities by not using them (SEE LOGIC) you are all basically spitting in his face. Instead of doing as your lazy government does and scapegoating everyone else maybe you should take time and reflect upon yourselves because #1 by bashing Che you are posing judgment which if my memory is correct only god is allowed to do. #2 you are posing this judgment without being informed. Oh and by the way #4 The High Art of Conservatism: celebrating what is stagnant and which does not improve itself,
BEFORE ANY AMERICAN [US] PIG THINKS OF INSULTING GUEVARA YOU READ A BOOK WRITTEN BY ONE OF YOUR “OWN KIND” [JOHN LEE ANDERSON] WHO HAD THE TRUE COURAGE AND THE xxxxxxxxx HEART TO WRITE ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED:
YES, HE DID KILL THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, BUT ONLY PEOPLE WHO WERE IN FAVOUR OF THE IMPERIALIST PHILOSOPHY, I.E. PEOPLE WHO WANTED “HIM” DEAD… AMERICANS [US], UR PATHETIC CIA!!!!!!!!!!! SO YOU AMERICANS [U.S] SHOULDN’T TALK, HOW MANY INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN HAVE YOU KILLED IN IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, THE GULF, LATIN AMERICA, IN MY HOME COUNTRY ARGENTINA, ITALY, USSR, AND OF COURSE, LETS NOT FORGET WHERE YOU LET OFF TWO ATOMIC BOMBS IN HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI.
GUEVARA TRIED TO FREE LATIN AMERICA FROM THE CAPITALIST, IMPERIALIST HANDS OF THE US, AND MARXISM WAS HIS ONLY OPTION BECAUSE “UR KIND DESTROYED LATIN AMERICA”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THATS ALL U AMERICANS [US] PEOPLE DO, DESTROY!!!!!!!! LIKE THE WAY YOUR KIND KILLED MY RELATIVES IN THE REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im going to have to agree with #22
you are so close minded you dont even realize that you commit the same hypocricies which you accuse “liberals” of. you obviously dont even understand the concept of liberalism, it is the basis for which the american government is built on. democracy is liberalism. so first buy a dictionary. then you should probably research things before you respond so you dont end up “like a deer in the headlights” when someone of any real intelligences reads your pretentious crap. The american government is solely focused on maintaining its economic foothold in south america, the american people ignore the rape of millions of people who are caught under the yoke of american imperialism. Dont believe me? here are some real facts, not doctored ones, and these are just major events, and dont cover the continuous occupations and covert operations which continue to this day.
the roosevelt corollary states that the us government has the right to take over any country which is behind on its loans. which if you knew anything you would know that the foreign policy of dollar diplomacy is designed to perpetuate south american debt to the us. not solve it. so if you read between the lines it says that if they arent cooperating we will take over their government. south american governments were given no option in this.
The us almost constantly occupied nicaragua from 1914 to 1933.
in 1954 the us overthrew the a popular and democratic government of guatemala, and in its place established a bloody dictatorship which lasted 30 years.
in 1965 the us sent 22,000 troops to the dominican republic to put down a constitutional revolution
in 1973 the us overthrew the allende government in chile, which was also democratic and well loved by the peoples. In its place we set up another dictatorship characterized by violence and oppression.
In 1983 we invaded granada to overthrow the government.
in 1990 the us government attempted to intervene in the nicaraguan elections in order to meet their own ends.
che guevara wasnt given up by his own soldiers, he was tracked down and his location elicited from starving peasants who were tortured by cia agents in order to discover guevara’s location. once guevara was captured he was tortured and shot in the legs and allowed to bleed to death as his hands were removed and teeth filed. cia involvement is proven by their records, and auctioning off of che’s personal items as well as a lock of his beard and photos of the execution, complete with photos of cia operatives. and these political executions which you cite are a necessary response to the tactics of the extremely volatile batista regime, and its secret police. all of those executed had ties to the batista regime. che was actually famous for providing medical care himself to captured soldiers and releasing them upon their regaining health.
i think his actions could be considered justified in a land where 90% of the wealth is centered in 10% of the population and 30% of the people live in severe poverty. In the words of carlos perez about venezuela: our country is rich but our people are poor. This huge gap in wealth distribution is facilitated by the us, who claims to care about civil rights (iraq) while causing horrible suffering in its own backyard. Che even says in his books that he believes violence is only a valid means of achieving an end if it has been preceded by democratic efforts, and only if those efforts have been completely exhausted.
maybe next time you will be a little more educated before you try to use big words you dont understand.
Wow…my first time here. What a fun bunch of comments. The question that comes to mind which I don’t get because I guess I’m a dumb conservative who has believed the lies of our government and the media…
If the USA is such a horrible place, why are so many people so desperate to come here…even from such a socialist paradise of Cuba. I guess there must be a lot of stupid people in the world who have been suckered by American propaganda. But some how they’re not so eager to go back home after coming here and discovering what a truly horrible place it is.
And that darn Yankee imperialism and the war for oil!!! When will it finally start paying off. I’m sick of paying nearly $4 bucks for oil. I guess I’ll have plaster over the bumper sticker on my Volvo. Replace the “No Blood for Oil” with “Liberals lied, where’s that oil for all that blood.” Damn…that will take up the whole bumper. Have to work on something shorter. But I digress.
Now where can I get a T shirt of a dead Che which I can wear to Whole Foods or to a Hollywood party?
All of you who are speaking against Che Guevara are, as said before, uniformed idiots.
I will not go and repeat what the others such as numbers 25, 24, 22, etc. have already said, but I agree with them completely.
I am not saying that Cuba is perfect because nothing is. I am not saying that everything Fidel Castro and even Ernesto ‘Che’ Guevara have done have been completely blameless and justified. I think they could have handled some things differently, but no one is capable of making good decisions all the time. They did what they thought was necessary to help Cuba and it’s people.
Yes, many people have fled from Cuba and gone to the US. I had a teacher who was a homosexual Cuban and had fled because his sexuality was not acceptable in Castro’s eyes. (I don’t believe he should have felt threatened just because of his chosen lifestyle, but even many Americans [US] look down upon homosexuals. The United States wrongly imposes morals on people just like many other countries around the world.) Other’s have fled Cuba because it’s economy isn’t exactly thriving, but that is mainly due to the embargo placed upon them by the US. However, many of those who left were filthy, capitalist pigs running to a country where they might be able to feed their extravagant, selfish, meaningless lifestyles.
The United States is appealing to people in poorer countries because, for the most part, it looks after it’s own people. It brainwashes them and lies to them, but they do have many positive opportunities. (Not everyone is able to grab onto those ‘opportunities’ though. 12% to 15% of Americans [US] are living below the federal poverty line at any given point in time, and roughly 40% falling below the poverty line at some time within a 10 year time span.) However, just like any other capitalist, it has only itself in mind, and will lie, cheat and steal to push itself to the top.
About the war in Iraq, I don’t think that it’s only about oil. If it were, we’d be in Darfur as well because they have a lot of oil there. However, I do not support it, and I do believe that it is partially about oil. Mainly though I think its the US shining it’s blade. I think it’s a way to show off how “strong” they are. To “warn” countries it may feel threatened by, and/or to make it seem as if they are doing what they can to help the others just to satisfy ignorant Americans [US] and other fat, capitalist nations.
I think communism, in its true form, is the best form of government.
I do not like ‘Che’ shirts because they contradict Guevara’s anti-capitalist beliefs.
And I think Ernesto ‘Che’ Guevara was a great man.
words flow so easily form mouths of people and even easier when typed like i am doing right now. its very easy to watch a movie and say that’I WUDDA KCKED HIS ASSSS’ and so on and so forth….and its even easier to criticse guevara. what i mean by this, is that people tend to read a few books/magazines/newspapers etc. and watch Discoery Channel and think they know everything about everything. Marxism is the only ideology that cannot be judged, for people will constantly rebel against it because they never know the real and sickening truth about capitalism.
me, and you my friend, YOU WHO IS READING THIS…YOU! you are a pig that is being fed and being told to stay happy…and so am i (but at least i am doing something about it).
what’s more interesting is that fact that all the biggest revolutionaries hve come from wealthy backgrounds - I MEAN MARX MARRIED INTO AROSTOCRACY and himself was middle class…and guevara was from rich parents… so there goes the criticism that he was poor and wanted ‘’shit”.
i have personally studied dictatorship communism by interviweing ex-inhabitants of such regimes, and all have complimented each others comments by saying that life was stricter, but fairer, easier and happier.
i come to tears at each real photo of guevara. i cannot help myself but feels his objective aura - being a self confessed satrean existentialist, that comment may seem as a contradiction, but it is true!
a legacy of a legend that from nothing made the most powerful of friends and the most powerful of enemies and brougth about the most iconic, yet underappreciated change in teh world. i am happy that i know, that i am not the only one inspired by him.
having seen poverty at its worst in Europe and eastern europe i can understand and feel teh frustration that guevara felt. he was a man that did not tolerate his enemies. hwo can people put teh deaths of thousands of men on his hands??? HOW CAN THEY? when the death of MILLIONS (and please no fuckwit try and contradict me on this) is on teh hands of teh americans now and before too.
the men sent to the wall did so as a result of tehir actions to help the bastard batista etc etc etc. it can go on this comment, but i wont drag it more than ive done. thankyou for reading, and please, anyone would like to debate, email me reni_cela@msn.com
Dude, when did you escape the cuckoo’s nest? I told you, TAKE YOUR MEDS!
Renato, i couldn’t have said it better.
Hats off to Matt Bramanti and as for the fact that Cuba’s economy is doing better now is attributed to its imported and thriving capitalist tourist trade. It’s truly amazing to see how reality is obscured by ignorance and insanity. I come from a country ruled by a communist regime and as is in every single case of every leader seeking so called “freedom, democracy from imperialism and colonialism” these sadistic barbaric commie libertarian entitlists that are no more than stone cold killers, from Stalin to Castro and Guevara to Mugabe, they all share one common goal, absolute dictatorial control and the death and destruction of millions of innocents and all that oppose them with the good of mankind sited as legitimacy for their vile actions and objectives.
Yes revolutionaries do tend to come from backgrounds of affluence and yet this does not seem to explain their total and absolute megalomania or the sanctioning of summery executions of any of their affluent enemies IN COLD BLOOD. As for Iraq, unless you have been there keep quiet, until you have experienced the people and children on the streets thanking you for coming and beg you not to leave, until you have seen the tyranny of Alqada and seen their brand of terror, keep quiet because you have absolutely know idea what you are talking about, after two and a half years there I do.
Again read these historical statements uttered by this particular highly intelligent nut job
Che Guevara said the following things:
“Go ahead and try them tomorrow morning — but execute them NOW!”
“My nostrils dilate while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood.”
“We don’t need proof to execute a man. We only need proof that it’s necessary to execute him.”
“I’d like to confess, papa, at that moment I discovered that I really like killing.”
He was on hero. He was just a mass murderer, nothing more and most defiantly nothing less!
“YES, HE DID KILL THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, BUT ONLY PEOPLE WHO WERE IN FAVOUR OF THE IMPERIALIST PHILOSOPHY”
The above statement pretty much says it all, as long as it is their way it’s justifiable. These dirtbags and their followers are without a doubt the world leaders in humanitarian atrocity second only to the likes of Hitler and the Nazis. There is not now nor has there ever been freedom in the poverty, fear and isolationism that comes from liberation movements whose leadership is fraught with corruption from ambitious entitlist martyrs deluded by the own self worth.
Liberation struggle credentials have elevated some of the worlds most violent mass murderers to the false level of sainthood with their beguiled fellowship believing all is done in their best interests with the ultimate oppression of their followers being controlled by misery and poverty.
Guevara was not a great man; he was a stone cold killer who like all madmen claim his atrocities were for a good cause, applying the philosophy of doing bad to achieve good is an apologist’s interpretation of two wrongs makes it right. I just hope in his dieing moments he had the opportunity to feel the fear and suffering he subjected his victims too.
Wake up we are in the twenty first century, the only way to get any ware in life is to get off of your lazy entitlist butts and earn it, until then the world owes you nothing. As for the fact that capitalism gives the freedom to buy things, it beats the heck out of living in abject poverty it also cannot explain why the USA, Canada and every other free thinking capitalistic society in the world is inundated with legal and illegal immigrants running from every poverty shackled socialist Marxist corner of the planet, maybe they are all just closet capitalists who like convertibles and latté’s
HAHAHAHAHA what conservitive jokes all of you are. republicans are too right handed and close minded to realize that America needs a change just as much as the counries Che Guevara helped during the 50’s and 60’s.
You complain about the murders he committed. What would you call a war in Iraq? Oh thats right no WMDs were ever found and 6 years later we are still over there doing nothing.. just killing more Iraqis that pose no threat to us.
Che had the right idea he knew how to make a real change and difference in the places he traveled.