LST: Neo-Nazi leader gives Ron Paul $500
by LST Staff · 10/25/2007 4:59 pmLONESTARTIMES.COM EXCLUSIVE!!!
Must credit LoneStarTimes.com!!!
That means YOU, mainstream media producer/reporter/outlet!
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A LoneStarTimes.com investigation has conclusively established that a leading figure in the American neo-Nazi / White-Supremacist movement has provided financial support to Ron Paul’s 2008 Presidential campaign.
The individual in question is Don Black, the founder, owner and operator of Stormfront, a “white power” website that both professional journalists and watch-dog groups have identified as the premier English-language racist/hate-site on the Internet.
Previous LST posts have focused on banner “widgets” appearing on the front-page of Stormfront. It is important to emphasize that these are NOT “advertisements” placed on Stormfront BY the Paul campaign, but rather publicly-available graphics that Stormfront’s owner has chosen to place himself, with links directly to Paul’s donation page.
Nevertheless, LST has in the past several weeks raised a series of questions for the Paul campaign; specifically–
- Can Paul confirm that the donation widgets appearing on Stormfront are the result of the site owner’s actions, not the campaign’s?
- Will Paul take measures to block Stormfront as a referring URL to his own website, so that no future donations can possibly flow into his campaign from a site that serves as the on-line nexus of neo-Nazism?
- Will Paul ask his own web-staff to trace past donations that were made by anyone arriving at his campaign’s webpage from Stormfront, so that these contributions can be rejected?
- Will Paul explore if there are any legal actions available to try to remove his donation widget from Stormfront, and if so pursue them?
- At the very least, will Paul personally state publicly, vigorously and unmistakably that he rejects the support of white supremacists, and that he will not knowingly tolerate their involvement with his campaign in any form or to any degree?
LoneStarTimes.com’s managing editor Matt Bramanti left multiple messages last week for officials in Paul’s national campaign press office seeking comment. None were returned.
In the interim, a number of grassroots supporters of Paul’s campaign– including many honorable and regular readers of LST– have argued that…
- It is unfair to hold Paul responsible for receiving political support from racists/neo-Nazis if that support was unsolicited by Paul;
- Paul hasn’t, in fact, solicited white-supremacist support; AND
- Paul’s campaign has no practical way of knowing whether or not a specific financial contribution made has come from a neo-Nazi.
These abstract debates are now moot– a contribution to the Paul campaign by a known white-supremacist has been identified.
The evidence is as follows:
- Black proudly and openly identifies himself as Stormfront’s guiding hand, and publishes a contact address on the Internet– PO Box 6637, West Palm Beach, FL, 33405
- A search by LST of public databases indicates that there is only one “Don Black” residing in West Palm Beach, Florida, zip code 33405
- A 7/16/01 USA Today article identifies Black’s wife as being named “Chloe”
- That same article identifies Chloe as being the ex-wife of close Black associate and former “Grand Wizard” of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke
- Minutes of a 9/7/07 City of West Palm Beach code-compliance hearing identify “Chloe H. Duke” as owning a residential property located at 203 Lakeland Drive
- According to Federal Election Commission records, on 9/30/07 the Ron Paul presidential campaign received a $500 contribution from a Mr. Don Black, who lists his address as 203 Lakeland Drive and identifies his occupation as “self-employed/website manager”
In light of these facts, we believe our previously asked questions continue to have merit.
A final note– it is traditional in political campaigns for candidates to return contributions from “toxic” donors once sufficient public scrutiny and outcry has been generated.
The difficulty in this instance is that if Ron Paul returns these funds to Mr. Black, all he will have done is given a neo-Nazi $500 more dollars with which to spread his psychotic bile.
We would therefore like to suggest that the Ron Paul campaign donate Black’s $500 to any of the following worthy recipients–
- United States Holocaust Memorial Museum ($500 would make Dr. Paul a “sustaining member”)
- One Family Fund (which works to rebuild the shattered lives of Israeli victims of Arab terror; $500 would make Dr. Paul a “healer”)
- Aish Ha’Torah (dynamic Jewish educational foundation; Aish donations are set according to funky Kabbalah-based giving levels–$18, $36, $180, etc.–but for $500 Dr. Paul could simultaneously become a “Friend of the Wall” and a “Gate of Wisdom,” which would entitle him to both a Sterling Silver Menorah bookmark with certificate of authenticity from the Israel Museum in Jerusalem, and a Western Wall Images CD with over 500 unique photos of life at the Western Wall– perfect “re-gifting” items for the fast-approaching Hanukkah season)
We try to be helpful.
Matt Bramanti, Managing Editor (Gentile Stooge)
David Benzion, Publisher (Z.O.G. Chapter #1948 President)
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Well I guess all of the Paulites need to step forward and appologize… He has gotten money from Stormfront and done NOTHING at this time about it….
Good job LST for discovering the truth. Ya’all deserve an award.
Wow, it’s been up 10 minutes and not a Paulistinian yet?
Does this mean you’re not running for county hide inspector?
Ya figure they would be more supportive of Bushitler, but what do I know? I’m not a neosocialist.
Niiiiice job everybody at LST!! Now we have cold hard facts to work with.
You cracked the case.
Go Ron Paul!
The agenda of Lone Star Times becomes more and more clear with continued articles along these lines. I’m sure there are registered sex offenders, rapists, and racists supporting each and every candidate running. But Lone Star Times goes after one candidate with such amazing determination. Previous articles on Ron Paul from this site make it quite clear that discrediting Ron Paul is its goal. It’s a free country, folks. I am of the opinion that white supremacists are backwards idiots… but I honestly have no interest in who they or anyone besides myself support. I am only interested in who I support and what that candidate stands for. So should you be. Lone Star Times is grasping for straws. The author only wishes he had real dirt on a man who has proven to be an upstanding statesman for his entire career.
Wow, it took 37 minutes.
sreams
Dont ya know Ron paul has his hood at the ready?
Still stuck on this molehill? I suggest you go read what I posted on this before….
http://lonestartimes.com/2007/10/23/ron-paul-funded-by-supporters-of-racist-websites/#comment-210546
Why should Paul reject the support of someone based on their beliefs? That would be like saying Paul should reject the support of Jew because they don’t believe in Jesus. If accepting support from Don Black is illegal or unconstitutional, I would understand, but in this case sir, you are simply attacking someone for their beliefs.
Maybe I can borrow Ron Pauls hood? I lost mine…err maybe I left it at the border?
#9 - I would ask ANY candidate to return or donate such funds to charity.
Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
Excuses, excuses. Keep on making ‘em.
#3 Well, here you go, more than 10 minutes though
I hope Dr. Paul will not return any contributions and certainly will not give even a cent to any Zionist organization you are suggesting. I begin to think that this campaign of smear started because of Ron Paul position regarding aid to Israel. One of the leading Zionists Michael Medved already said that Dr. Paul is “anti Israel” and “has ties to known neo Nazi organizations”. From your post I began to suspect that you guys have ties to other hate groups, such as ADL. Don’t you?
As for Dr. Paul I wish he could end all this nonsense by saying that he is glad that his message of freedom resonates among people from all walks of life and that he welcomes every supporter regardless of their political, religious or ideological views. But that is of course up to him.
Tannim, It is a story because these are the kinds of things Republicans are regularly attacked about. In most cases, the Republican comes out, says they are not going to accept the support of a racist group, and then either give the money back or donate it to a charity. LST is just calling for Ron Paul to do likewise.
Sure thing Doc– because there is no significant moral distinction one can make between donors who don’t believe in Jesus and donors who do believe in racism, bigotry, Jew-hatred and White Supremacism.
Keep digging.
#16 - ?? Listen, here’s the deal:
If you accept campaign contributions (and 500 dollars is nothing to sneeze at for an individual contribution) from the head of a white supremacist group, and it becomes well known, then that creates the perception that you at least tacitly support that group’s agenda.
Why is that so hard for Paulites to understand??
I want to put everyone reading LST on notice– there are new people registering and leaving comments. It is likely that at least SOME of them are the racist bigots from over at Stormfront.
Read with a jaundiced eye.
If you are a new commenter who supports Ron Paul and are NOT a racist bigot… well, unfortunately you are entering the conversation at an inopportune time.
Think clearly, communicate carefully, and we will be fair-minded in judging your motivations and the strength of your intellectual arguments.
18 - Wow. The “Z word”. You are looking at this clearly and with no bias…
/sarc
#23 jimb - I expect you’ll see much worse before long…
Well this is sorta’ anticlimactic, we already knew that this was true, because if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it just might be a duck! That said I’m glad that it went “main stream”!
Like I said
Ya’ll cracked the case. Good work.
God Bless ya!
Go Ron Paul!
Dave
What is manstream?
LST?
Bwahahaha
Maybe tonight CBS will carry it and make ya’ll proud?
“I would ask ANY candidate to return or donate such funds to charity”
Go ahead and ask then. Maybe you should make a list of all of the belief systems that are unnacceptable to you so that Ron Paul can be sure to fund your preferred organizations well.
DJ - What’s your point? Should Paul not be asked about something like this? Is he not a presidential candidate? Is the question unfair?
Does Ron Paul’s status of “Constitutional Savior” exempt him from such scrutiny?
#1 bweldon says; Well I guess all of the Paulites need to step forward and appologize…
I’m holding my breath!…NOT!
“What is manstream?”
When you’ve been on a long trip and drank too much coffee???
#28 - It is a pretty short list. I would ask a candidate to shun contributions from known racist organizations like the KKK or individuals well known to be associated with them, like David Duke, people known to be associated to be with organized crime, and sicko organizations such as NAMBLA.
And there’s nothign wrong with that…
#26 DanielJames, You are right, that was incorrect, my bad! It may go “mainstream” since he clams to be a Republican. I was just glad that it went out on the radio.
Well, at least we can keep the jackbooted crazies busy here tonight so they don’t clutter up other people’s websites. I hope other folks on the net appreciate the kind things we do for them.
To those who are trying to use this to put a white hood on Ron Paul, you may be interested to know that, of the 4,000 babies he has delivered, more than 700 of them could not pay some or all of their doctor bills. Of these, over half were not white. He provided the medical services for them anyway.
And who is guilty of blind hate here?
Lone Star is just a Red Neck Red State wannabe.
In that same vane, please ban all talk of Ron Paul and Ron Paul supporters.
This website is just a couple of good ol’ boys sippin’ beers and checking out white supremist websites.
It is no shock that you are the first to crack this MAJOR news story since the website mentioned I’m sure is just a shortcut on your desktop away.
yuck a yuck ‘here come those damn RP supporters’.
“wow it took 37 minutes.”
You are pathetic. You want Dr. Paul supporters here so you keep writing this rediculous dribble.
The truth is you are afraid of Congressman Paul returning America to a Constitutional Republic and you know he is gaining momentum daily.
You can go back to your cow tipping now.
I’m listening to Dan online right now. I wonder how long it will take the Ron Paul crazies to show up on KSEV…
“Does Ron Paul’s status of “Constitutional Savior” exempt him from such scrutiny?”
Yes, because the Bill of Rights allows Mr. Black to believe anything he wants and support any candidate he wants as long as he isn’t breaking the law or infringing on the rights of others. I’ll say it again… I think Mr. Black is a backwards fool, and I don’t care what he does or thinks as long as it falls within the law.
Lone Star Times is pretty small-time when it comes to its importance. If this really becomes an issue that people are actually paying attention to, I’m sure Ron Paul will comment about it when asked. Until then, it is still a non-issue, regardless of how important this publication thinks it should be.
BTW… how much time has the Lone Star Times dedicated to finding questionable supporters of any of the other candidates? Let me answer for them… None. The agenda here doesn’t fool anybody.
35
And he only ate three of them…
Um, nobody? This isn’t about his work as a doctor, and nobody is trying to put a white hood on the man. We’re just asking if it is right for a campaign to ignore the fact that money is coming in from known racist organizations.
Paul’s campaign is about a return to the constitution, and that includes freedom. Free peeech, freedom to have ideals no matter how wrong they may be. Although I personally do not support racism, I shall defend their right to feel that way. That is what freedom means. Ron Paul should not be under any obligation to return any money that was unsolicitited. He himself has not ever expressed such beliefs.
“It is a pretty short list. I would ask a candidate to shun contributions from known racist organizations like the KKK or individuals well known to be associated with them, like David Duke, people known to be associated to be with organized crime, and sicko organizations such as NAMBLA.”
You’ve made my point. Yours is just one person’s list. Shall we gather lists from every individual in this country as to who is offensive and who not? We could probably label every person in this country as an undesirable with that logic. I guess the plus side is that $100s of millions would to to charity, and we’d never have to see a campaign advertisement ever again.
Terry, should Mrs. Clinton have returned the money from Hsu?
By then it will be too late.
You know, while we were perusing the scumbag websites we were looking for all the other candidates. Funny thing is all we could find were “Ron Paul for President” banners.
Yepper texpat
I heard they arrested an illegal for lighting fires in San Diego. Is that dang border closed yet? That is the subject matter I would like to discuss but not LST.
Go Ron Paul!
Whos the jackboot? Jackboot would imply force and tyranny.
#28 sreams
Here’s a partial list of people I would not accept campaign contributions from if I were running for public office.
Nazis (or fascists & bigots of any stripe), HAMAS (or radical Islamic militants of any stripe), Communists (or agents/defends of totalitarian regimes of any stripe), rapists, child-molesters, murderers, and thieves.
Am I intolerant for not wanting a noble cause (limited government) to be tarred by association with such people?
Wow. You have us nailed. I feel so DIRTY!
You didn’t answer my question. My question wasn’t whether or not “Mr.” Black (more respect than he is due, IMO) had the right to donate. He absolutely has the right to donate. My question was whether or not we had the right to look at his FEC records and ask why Paul would accept support from known fringe racist groups.
We DO have that right, by the way.
And the suggestion that LST is “too big for its britches” to ask such questions is ludicrous. You’re trying to suppress free speech more than anybody here.
sreams,
Is any person, group or philosophy acceptable to you?
“By then it will be too late.”
Too late for what? To fulfill this publication’s agenda of slandering Ron Paul?
theonlypatriot,
You discuss it daily, right here on LST. What’s preventing you today?
Too late for any chance at credibility for your savior.
Sreams, this is not a First Amendment issue. No one is calling for any government action in this matter.
You will recall that the First Amendment begins:
It does not say:
Yes, neo-Nazi white-supremacist scumbags have the right to contribute money to the candidate of their choice.
Along the same lines, individuals have the right to ask why a candidate is accepting neo-Nazi white-supremacist scumbags’ money.
And candidates also have the right to reject neo-Nazi white-supremacist scumbags’ money.
In this case, the Ron Paul campaign is accepting neo-Nazi white-supremacist scumbags’ money, knowing that it’s neo-Nazi white-supremacist scumbags’ money.
And yet, out of all the things in the world you could be doing, you’re here.
Clinton had to return the money.
bigjoke
Mrs Clinton should be behind bars…so what..shes not and the repukes let everything slide including Bill Clintons treason …Sandy Burglar? Chinese secrets?
“Is any person, group or philosophy acceptable to you?”
I disagree with many philosophies… but respect the right of all of them to exist that are not breaking the law or infringing on the rights of others. Ron Paul would support Black’s freedom to think the way he does, so what’s the point of denying him as a non-solicited supporter?
#52 Matt, Well said!
BTW; LST may make 500 on this one! ;=) 300 is a given!
Can do, cuz it;s a short liast:
Nazis
White Supremacists
Anti-Semites
Islamic Extremists
I think that puts me in oh, 90% of the electorate.
Although it;s not a beleif system, I;d add;
Convicted felons
Convicted Child Molestors.
See?
It’s easy. al one needs do is take out his Moral Compass, flip open the lid, and look down at it.
#1 - No need to “apologize.” I’ve said all along that if you can conclusively identify a neo-nazi contributer, I’ll readily call for the donation’s return.
You’ve done that, now give Ron Paul’s people a fair and honest opportunity to properly repudiate the contribution before turning this into a smear.
Because you don’t want your campaign to be tainted by association with such bass-ackward morons?
Nobody’s telling Black or Stormfront to think differently. Paul can support Black’s freedom to be a schmuck all he wants, but he doesn’t deny him that freedom by refusing to take his money.
It boils down to a question of character. When running for public office, do you want known racist organizations to donate to you and help you get there? Besides, if Paul ever becomes a credible threat, his opponent’s campaigns will dredge up this information and put out commercials about how RP accepts support from racists. It will happen. If Bramanti can find the stuff, organized campaigns who do this for a living will find it too.
Sarge
You left out the Minutemen.
That’s interesting, coming from a libertarian.
You see, there are plenty of legal things that are reprehensible and should be opposed by decent people using peaceful, private-sector means. Here’s a short list:
-Screaming “hey fatty!” at pregnant women
-Not tipping
-Advocating white supremacy
-Failing to flush a public toilet
-Using racial slurs
By your standards (or lack of them), you “don’t care” whether people do any of these, simply because they’re legal.
In doing so, you’re allowing the state to dictate your tastes and manners. After all, if it’s legal, it must be okay!
That’s an odd form of libertarianism. Seems to me that a true libertarian would attempt to set social standards by private-sector means, rather than legislation.
theonlypatriot
So, this stuff is now the fault of the Republicans? You’ve got to be kidding.
“White Supremacists
Anti-Semites”
There are many in this country who would call someone who opposes affirmative action a “white supremist” and someone who opposes foreign aid to Israel an “anti-semite”. You are opening a Pandora’s Box.
Okay I don’t even know if this will be seen because so many posts are flying up but may I point out to those of you who are getting your panties in a wad thinking we are beating up Ron Paul–WE ARE NOT BEATING HIM UP. We are asking him to do a simple little thing that is only common sense and fair to people who want to make a decision about who to vote for. CONDEMN THE WHITE SUPREMACISTS. That is ALL we are saying. We are not calling Ron Paul a racist himself, only asking that he prove he is not. Why is this making you so upset??
What is this? Is Phil_M learning the beauty and simplicity of brevity?
#59 - And I continue to maintain that Paul’s campaign has known all along that he’s had their support. All they have to do is give an intern PC and tell him to look up references to RP and see who is talking about him. Rest assured, they HAVE done that, if they’re a campaign staff worth their salt.
They also know where their donations are coming from, including referring URL. That’s what databases are for.
Bigjoke
You brought up the clintons.
How high is the water momma, 65 feet and risin”
61 - The minutemen, by and large, go to pains to *not* be a racist organization. Some may disagree. However, NOBODY can dispute in any honesty that Stormfront is racist.
First, none of these posts have been “smears”. Second, the first request for response from Paul’s offices was delivered 14 days ago. More requests have been unanswered.
No, theonlypatriot, I brought up Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Hsu.
Oh, please. It is called common sense. Nobody over at Stormfront is simply opposing affirmative action or opposing foreign aid to Israel. Go check out the site, if you can stand it for more than 10 seconds. I went over there a few days ago to see what it was about. Had to take a shower afterwards.
Side question for discussion:
How disapppointed in their Savior are these guys going to be when Mr. Suckforward makes a public statement and returns the donation?
Wouldn’t that mean that he agrees with us morons her on LST?
Can’t figure out why you’d want them on your list, DJ, but hey, if they are your choice–
Tom DeLay took money from convicted criminals.
Where’s the outrage?
Larry Craig solicited sex in a bathroom.
Where’s the outrage?
Uh, Tom Delay’s not running for President?
Sorry;
Pretty dam easy for me to know a real White Supremacist and a real Anti-Semite.
and it is for most people—except apparently, Ron Paul supporters.
David Vitters had sex with prostitutes.
Where’s the outrage?
You mean, Tom DeLay who is no longer in office and Larry Craig who everyone screamed about for weeks??
No, but where was the outrage when he was Majority Leader?
Answer: Not here.
Sarge
I think he should give the money to the RNC..they could use the money. I hope this sinks Ron Pauls ship and opens the door for Rudy I love abortion and hate the 2nd Amendment Juilianna.
Seriously he should give the money back and I believe will. Ron Pal is an honest man and not a racist.
Let’s see what the people from the Paul Campaign have to say. This matter will probably be delt with. IF it’s not…….. it’s a huge red flag against Ron Paul. ( as if he needs one more)
#59 Phil_M
Campaigns employ people or contract to consultants to prevent just this sort of situation from arising. Mr. Paul is a physician, congressman and a candidate in the Presidential race. I would assume the man is quite busy and does not have the time to scroll through donor lists.
However, it is incomprehensible to me how his staff and contractors would have failed to flag this donation. It did not happen yesterday and there has been plenty of time to analyze past donations. The attitude that prevails in a campaign condoning these types of donations is what concerns and angers me. The manure does run downhill.
Tom DeLay resigned.
You’ve not been around here long enough to know this, but Larry Craig should resign, in my opinion.
Bihasqua enters from stage right, bringing up the double standards of LST.
My, my, my.
Exactly what does Tom Delay or Larry Craig have to do with Ron Paul taking money from Nazi sympathizers and promoters?
Nothing. Therefore, it is off topic. And should go into the Open Comments thread, where people are free to discuss any maniac idea they choose.
Just helping a newbie out.
And I do believe that LST had several negative posts on all of them. Got any more subjects for your righteous indignation?
Tom Delay was forced to resign from Congress–
and if you missed the outrage about Larry Craig, especially here on LST, you must have been surfing some other websites at the time——–
“It boils down to a question of character. When running for public office, do you want known racist organizations to donate to you and help you get there?”
This is the only semi-valid point to be made. I personally believe there is absolutely nothing wrong with Ron Paul accepting donations from any American who’s freedom of speech he supports. What the masses find acceptable may very well be different.
This brings me back to my previous point. This is small-time news coming from a small-time publication at this point in time. If it becomes a more widespread topic, then, in the interest of public relations, a politician in this position may very well wish to reject any donation from Black.
But… then again… Ron Paul has unpopular stances on a few other issues as well, and he has always been one to stick to his guns. That is a large part of his appeal. He will not bend his principles in order to garner extra votes. If asked, I would not be at all suprised if he stated clearly that he disagreed with Black’s beliefs, but that out of his respect for people to think any way they wish within the law, he cannot deny Black’s support.
Just to give this a bit of perspective, I can gaurantee you that many of paul’s supporters are pro-choice. Should Ron Paul return their donations because he disagrees with them? After all, one pro-life perspective is that those who are pro-choice advocate murder. Along that line of thinking, it seems to me that someone who advocates hatred (but not murder) is much more desireable.
It’s a slippery slope from any perspective.
Two mentions of Tom Delay on LST in the same day–
worthy of note.
David -
That is an entirely fair position, and as I have stated I fully believe Paul should dissassociate himself from Black’s donation to his campaign. In light of the above list though, I would like to ask you and other commentators here about a moral issue surrounding another prominent Republican’s presidential campaign that came to light in the last few days.
You specifically identified “child molesters” on the list of associations a person running for public office should never make. Earlier this week it was revealed that the campaign of Rudy Giuliani currently has an accused pedophile priest on its payroll, and that this pedophile priest regularly appears with Giuliani at public events.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=3753385&page=1
The evidence against this pedophile is strong and well documented. Three different male victims have identified him as a child molester by name. A Grand Jury investigating the face found their testimony and other evidence against this priest to be credible. The Catholic Church has also officially suspended this priest from his duties and barred him from publicly serving in a religious capacity. In fact, the only reason he is not sitting behind bars tonight is that the statute of limitations has expired.
With that knowledge known, and in light of your expressed desire to keep racists, neo-nazis, murderers, child molesters, and other similar creeps out of the Republican presidential primary, will you immediately and unequivocally call upon Rudy Giuliani to fire this child molester and repudiate all connections to him?
Really? Show me the hit pieces LST ran on DeLay.
“We are not calling Ron Paul a racist himself, only asking that he prove he is not.”
Here is your answer:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul68.html
So are we done here?
Phil #92 when LST opens an article on Giuliani I will join you there in doing just that.
Phil_M
Therein lies the difference. Accusations versus proof.
Brevity, Phil_M, brevity.
#94, actions speak louder than words.
I was actually thinking to write a response here…then I got to the part about Ron Paul donating these funds to charity. Then the author names off 3 charities for Paul to donate the funds to. All 3 are Jewish funds. No AfroAmericans, no Mexicans, no Chinese or Asians. No Middle Easterners. Only Jewish.
How racist is that?
sreams,
You really don’t want to bring up Dr. Paul’s writings on race. Trust me.
#76, 77, 80, 82 Bihasqua
Listen Sahib, you colors are showing through. It must be hard to keep up appearances. How long can you do this ?
You think Romney isn’t racist? Or Giuliani?
Give me a break.
What is wrong with Larry Craig? Hes a homosexual, a cheater who DELETED. Thats it. Leave the man out of this! He is a solid republican.
Phil - on the Rudy thing, I thought we addressed that? Rudy made a public statement about the relationship. I don’t accept his explanation and will not vote for him. I wouldn’t have anyway but that’s beside the point. Ron Paul has not addressed this issue!
#98 TxRedneck
We just like Jews here. Nothin’ racist about that.
Ron Paul wrote that.
Actually, it is a very germane point. If you are willing to give the man a pass, that’s OK. I am not. There has to be a minimum level of character displayed by a candidate that I would be willing to vote for. This isn’t a freedom of speech issue. It is a character issue.
To put this in the proper perspective, if NARAL’s website was putting a Ron Paul 2008 banner on their front page that redirected to Ron Paul’s donation link, and the head of NARAL donated money to Ron Paul, then maybe it would be appropriate to ask him why he would accept that money, if he was indeed opposed to abortion.
If Suzy Q. donated money, we would never know if she supported abortion. You’re comparing apples to lobsters.
No more racist than anyone who would quickly das off a list of charities they are familiar with because they are active in thier religion.
I’m not active religioulsy—I’d have gone with Military Charities.
Nice try though—
“You really don’t want to bring up Dr. Paul’s writings on race. Trust me.”
Why? Because you’ll pull out writings that have been well documented as having come from a ghost writer? Sorry… you can’t surprise me.
bigjoke
Did you know that Bernard Kerik, Rudy Joklianis buddy, chief of police…was convicted of serious crimes and is being indicted of more as we type?
Talk about good republicans.
See there sreams, what can of worms you opened? I told you not to do that.
/sighs and walks away, once again not listened to
103 -
Perhaps you can direct me to where it was, but i’ve yet to see so much as a single thread about it posted here. The only discussion I know if is when I brought it up midway through the open comments thread yesterday and suggested it may be a topic for additional scrutiny. You may also recall that at least one LST writer came to Rudy’s defense over that relationship.
Yeah - Rudy actually defended the child-molesting creep and pledged to stick with him despite all the evidence! In my book, that’s far worse than unwittingly recieving a campaign contribution from a scurrilous source.
Yes, theonlypatriot, I do know about that. Is Mr. Kerik also on Mr. Giuliani’s campaign staff?
“Ron Paul wrote that.”
Ghost writer. Try again.
Honestly, if I only had 2 choices in the universe and they were between Paul and Giuliani, and I wasn’t allowed to skip the box, I would vote for Paul. I wouldn’t like it, though…
Next!
Let’s rewrite history! Everything ever bad written by someone was not written by them, it was written by a ghost writer, even though the author signed his name to it and DID NOT DISAVOW IT CONTEMPORANEOUSLY!
But, hey, let’s rewrite it anyway.
How do you know it was a ghost writer?
Because the good doctor’s staff claims that.
Sargevining,
“Nice try though—”
I’d say the same of this article…
Even if it was, did Paul sign his name to it? If he did, without changing the text, would that not mean he agreed with the sentiments?
Folks,
This is starting to resemble a smear campaign. The concern over this contribution is legitimate. However, the amount of questionable donations in this campaign probably approaches infinity, and the Lone Star Times chose to focus on probably the only one Dr. Paul has ever had.
We all know Ron Paul is not a white supremicist–he is quite the opposite–a libertarian. He has said that we do not get rights from being gay, white, black, or a member of any other group, we get our rights from being individuals. He opposes aid to Israel and Palestine (or other Arab states for that matter) because he believes their 2000+ year old quest to kill each other is none of our business. So lets leave the most honest man in Congress alone.
Bigjoke
Birds of a feather flock together. They are friends! Buds! It speaks volumes. Corrupt to the core and a liberal.
Wow, what a great piece of investigative journalism on the part of the Lone Star Times and KSEV!
So, when will you complete the investigation of storm front and similar sites, and pose these questions to other candidates (or parties) that they might support?
Leave no stone unturned, LST. You’ve done great deeds to end racism in Jena, LA… Why not take it nationwide?
Or is this really all just about RON PAUL?
Honestly…
Boy, that’s some defense you’ve got there:
“Ron Paul isn’t a racist! He just employs racists, lets them write whatever they want, stamps his name across the top and mails it to constituents! He’s perfectly within his rights to do that! Fire cain’t melt steel!”