Rudy Giuliani, knowing he must run to the right to secure the nomination, joined John McCain and Mitt Romney in locking up some conservative Christian support when he was endorsed by Pat Robertson at a press conference today.
“It is my pleasure to announce my support for America’s Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, a proven leader who is not afraid of what lies ahead and who will cast a hopeful vision for all Americans,” Robertson said during a news conference with Giuliani in Washington.
Robertson, among the brightest and most accomplished of the “Religious Right,” steered clear of discussing his major differences with Rudy - abortion and homosexual rights - and focused on the accomplishemnts of his new best friend.
“Rudy Giuliani took a city that was in decline and considered ungovernable and reduced its violent crime, revitalized its core, dramatically lowered its taxes, cut through a welter of bureaucratic regulations, and did so in the spirit of bipartisanship which is so urgently needed in Washington today,” Robertson said.
For good measure, Rudy added another touch to his conservative makeover by trying to capitalize on Hillary Clinton’s recent foibles regarding illegals.
. . . Giuliani said he asked two GOP friends in Congress, Rep. Peter King of New York and Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, to introduce bills to keep states from giving licenses or similar identification to illegal immigrants.
How much do these endorsements really matter? Who knows? All I can say is that, although I would likely be pigeon-holed as one of the religious right, I’ve never voted for or against a candidate based on the recommendation of Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell or even Father Guido Sarducci.
The candidates, however, clearly think the public perception following these endorsements is beneficial. Why else would John McCain appear aghast at Robertson’s nod to Rudy?
Asked about the Robertson endorsement, McCain, at a news conference with Brownback in Dubuque, Iowa, said: “Every once in a while, I’m left speechless. This is one of those times.”
Whether Robertson’s assistance will help an abortion-endorsing, homosexual-embracing, cross-dressing, sanctuary city-supporting former mayor of New Yawk remains to be seen.
I, myself, am neutral on the matter.
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I myself used to be a member of CCC and used to like Pat, but I do think he has become irrelevant.
I doubt that his recommendation carries much clout anymore. Never the less the general push towards Guiliani by the ruling elite has been going strong.
Every one certainly can pick and choose who they want, I will however not compromise, and will not vote for him if he’s our nominee. Look at it this way, election after election our conservative principles have been trashed and abandoned.
who got paid on this one? how would be nice to know also.
I wonder what Pat Robertson thinks of Rudy’s child molester friend Alan Placa.
I don’t look to Pat Robertson for religious or political guidance. I think that the days of Robertson’s relevance are waning at best. Plus he has a penchant for sticking his foot in his mouth and saying things that, at best, turn people off of Christianity.
Excerpts from the Suffolk County Grand Jury investigation of “Priest F,” aka Alan Placa - a close friend and paid campaign consultant for Rudy Giuliani:
Somebody needs to ask Robertson: when is Rudy’s campaign going to stop harboring pedophiles?
9 out of 10 Baptists agree, Pat Robertson is a nutjob, plain and simple.
When Pat Robertson is brought up as a subject, it is usually asked, “What stupid thing did Pat Robertson say this time?”
He has 0 credibility.
6.
He may to you but he has a lot of credibility to a lot of people. And some Baptists I know have no business calling anyone a nutjob.
Couldn’t the same be said, in all fairness, of a segment of just about any group of people?
I have lived a politically curious and engaged life for five decades. I was born and raised in Texas, lived on the West Coast for several years, traveled around the world and now live on the East Coast. Outside of a couple of little old ladies I knew in Austin County, I cannot think of one single person I have ever met who would vote for someone because a minister, priest or rabbi told them to do so. I’m sure they are out there, but I think the influence of these cable tv preachers has always been over-rated.
9. texpat
But Oral Roberts saw a 700 foot tall Jesus. Surely you would listen to a man who saw a tall Jesus?
#10 Rick
I’d have to believe him first.
Trust, but verify.
Who could possibly care? How about a policy for LST that at least once a week they post something relevant? Just a suggestion.
I am astounded and speechless. A member of the religious right, going to endorce a pro-choice candidate. Ya’all have been following politics a lot longer than I have. Can any of you remember something like this happening?
Rastus, how is this not relevant?
This item is all over talk radio today. It’s very relevent. I was hoping I would come home this afternoon to see it here. Good job RickG!!
I wonder where this country would have been had Rudy been able to run for the NY Senate seat against HELLary and taken HELLary out then, so that the rest of the country wouldn’t have to suffer now.
Fred who?? Remember when most of the board here thought HE was the salvation of the Repubs?? I stated otherwise. Better start thinking Rudy, or you will get 8 years of the Mrs.
Enjoy…
I will vote third party if those are my choices. Even if it means that Hillary wins. I ain’t voting AGAINST any more people.
Great. ANOTHER reason not to vote for Rudy
This is about the Primary - you know, that election when Republicans get together to choose which candidate will represent them in the general election. We can all worry later about what to do if……
In the meantime we have a primary to think about. And, Pat Robertson obviously is not doing a lot of thinking. Guiliani is opposed to much of what Robertson has stood for for the last 30 years. I don’t know what caused this - well I suppose betrayal would be too strong - but he’s lost whatever credibility he might have had with me. I suspect that the 700 Club is going to get hit with a firestorm of outrage over this.
I’m not sure why you think LST doesn’t post relevant stuff but considering it’s a free country and it’s THEIR blog they are free to post what they WANT to and you can post what YOU want to on YOUR blog…sorry but this is really grating on my nerves that every time LST posts a story on one of the republican nominees people get upset that it isn’t “newsworthy”. You wanna see something that isn’t newsworthy go look at the Comical and you’ll find LOTS.
Back on topic, it makes me laugh to think of Pat endorsing Rudy. Maybe it will backfire and detract from Giuliani’s credibility lol!!
To All:
Politics do make strange bedfellows. Some of you must be really naive or worse. I am opting for the latter by some of the postings I have just read.
One can learn to get along with the devil if you have to in business and politics. Sometimes the worst of enemies can become the best of “friends”.
Fred is a flop. McCain just hasn’t figured out he is toast yet. It is down to Guliani, Rommney, and Huckabee, although I admit the last is a dark horse at best. [Please no flames from Paulites]
Pat knows that to have any influence at all requires markers. His support is a marker with Guliani. How much that marker is worth is the question?
I am going to suggest everyone on this thread read the following comments by John Podhoretz concerning Robertson and Giuliani:
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/jpodhoretz/1253
” Pat Robertson endorsed Rudy Giuliani for president today. This is a coup, but not for any substantive reason. Taken strictly as an electoral matter, the Robertson imprimatur is almost certainly a wash — meaning that any votes it will generate will be offset by votes it will cost among those, even on the Republican side, who find Robertson a singularly unappetizing figure (including among Evangelical Christians, many of whom come from a different eschatalogical tradition from Robertson’s).
There are times when an endorsement really does mean something substantial — when, say, a governor with a powerful political machine at his disposal anoints a presidential candidate with the understanding that his machine will do whatever it can to get the candidate elected. This is not the case here, for the reasons I’ve outlined.
That Giuliani has managed to secure the endorsement of a formerly significant leader of the Religious Right was to be expected, if for no other reason that the endorser was bound to get a lot of attention from a hungry media that can’t get enough of this pre-primary season and the intriguing fact of a pro-choice candidate sitting atop the Republican leaderboard. That Giuliani’s endorser would be Robertson is also not surprising, because he has spent years trying to make up for his disgusting assent to the repugnant claims of the late Jerry Falwell that the American Civil Liberties Union and other secularist organizations bore some responsibility for the attacks of 9/11.
What we have here, then, is a Giuliani “pseudo-coup,” to adapt Daniel Boorstin’s great neologism about staged media events that have no intrinsic meaning. In 1961, Boorstin described a “pseudo-event” as a
happening that possesses the following characteristics:
(1) It is not spontaneous, but comes about because someone has planned, planted, or incited it. Typically, it is not a train wreck or an earthquake, but an interview.
(2) It is planted primarily (not always exclusively) for the immediate purpose of being reported or reproduced. Therefore, its occurrence is arranged for the convenience of the reporting or reproducing media. Its success is measured by how widely it is reported…
Endorsements these days are almost exclusively pseudo-events, and this one more than most. The reason it’s a pseudo-coup is that it’s become the story of the day. It will be discussed for the remainder of the week. It is an attention-generator, and a spotlight-stealer, since the news has drawn the media’s attention away from the endorsement of John McCain by Sen. Sam Brownback, who just dropped out of the presidential race. “
22 - I believe a) that Robertson is compromising his principles to endorse a candidate that stands for so many of the things that he purportedly stands against and b) that Christians should certainly look elsewhere for guidance than Pat Robertson. A certain Book, perhaps?
How’s that for naive?
Well gang, the media (MSM division)are salivating over this endorsement of Rudy. It should be crystal clear they want a “subway” election campaign and will push it. Noo Yawk, Noo Yawk all the time. They’re chapped that the great unwashed in the rest of the country dare to forget that nothing of consequence happens west of the Hudson River and think their opinions/votes count. The MSM are itching to disabuse us uppity peasants of that belief. So there is great joy in Manhattanville. For a while anyway.
Unfortunately for them, the MSM haven’t snapped to the reality of the New Media and their influence and reach. Good grief, here am I exercising the freedom to post on LST and opine that the MSM are delusional on this subject. Tally Ho.
#12 Rastus
The LST thread posts this week are:
Robertson Endorsement of Giuliani
Immigration Enforcement
Houston Talk Radio
Statewide Election Results & Analysis
Stupid Drug Dealer
Phenomenal Fundraising Success of Paul Campaign
Report on Newspaper Circulation in USA
Comprehensive Post w/ Voter Recommendations, Ballots and Polling Locations
Death of American Soldier’s Three Children
Survival of Infant of Abortion Attempts
Presidential Medal of Freedom for Cuban Prisoner
Hillary’s Name Popularity
Daily Open Comments
Why are these not relevant ? If you have suggestions for topics we don’t cover, I’ll be glad to take a look at them.
#26 cont’d
I left this one out:
Man Impersonating Lawyer Is Big Democratic Fundraiser
RE: TV Preacher — Is it just me or does Joel Osteen turn any of you off. This guy has never had any kind of formal religious training. He hawks his books and goes around the country giving his speeches. He just seems like a con artist to me.
All I know is I like his message.
#28 bgmck
I have nothing personal against them. However, I have never cared for any of the cable TV preachers.
The only exception is my award for sheer, unmatched showmanship to Jimmy Swaggart. He should have followed his cousins, Mickey and Jerry Lee, into show business.
Methinks relevance (or supposed lack of same) was protested without a suggestion of an alternative which equals zip / zero / nada on the relevance scale,,,,,,,,,,,
31 - You referring to the protests of Robertson’s relevance? I’m not sure where you’re going with that…
I should qualify #32 by saying I haven’t ingested sufficient quantities of caffeine today…
jimb
I think Katfish is referring to my #26 response to Rastus.
Ahhh. That makes sense…
/wandering off in search of caffeinated beverages
“I would likely be pigeon-holed as one of the religious right”
You are more likely to be pigeonholed as a communist DEVIL!
36. Faster
And the difference would be . . . ?
12. Rastus
I saw Lindsey Graham on TV today babbling on about Bibles and the China Olympics. Would that be relevant?
For the ill, shutins etc, TV preaching is fine. I don’t trust all of their motives, but if they reach people, then they serve a purpose.
There is the possibility Pat is going, as did RR (duped by Nancy to support the Brady Bill), and Barry Goldwater (saying anything his new wife wanted), senile.
I don’t wanna bash anybody and certainly not on a thread supposed to be about them but I really have been uncomfortable with how crazy everyone has gotten over Joel Osteen…and the fact that he’s writing a second book…of course it could be because I disagree with a lot of what he says and it kills me to think of how many millions of people are eating it up but hey, it’s a free country and he can write what he likes, and if it sells, it sells!
Hmmm…
I kinda like Joel’s message. I do 30 minutes on the HealthRider while listening to him on Sunday morn.
Was he ever waxing…really?
#10 Get your oversized Jesuses sized up right. It was a 900 Foot Jesus! Don’t short-change Oral.
And I’ll have to disagree with texpat on TV preacher showmanship. Jimmy Swaggart ain’t got nuthin’ on Ernest Angley. He is the king of Televangelists.
# 18,19…then don’t get on here complain when she runs the country into the dirt…
silence is golden…
enjoy…
Joel Osteen should be a motivational speaker, not a preacher.
As to Pat Robertson, I am glad Rudy got his endorsement. Pat is as fruity as they come and Rudy and he should make a fine fruit basket.
Pat has made prediction after prediction that “God” has told him. I don’t know of any that have come true. When a man states God tells him to reveal something to the world and it does not come true, well we call that a false prophet.
So this endorsement does not shock me in the least.
I see two men claiming to be something they aren’t.
surprise surprise!!
Let’s see….Pat Robertson…isn’t he the one who kept harping on Y2K?
43. hamous
Ernest Angley!!! Now there’s a blast from the past. The snow white of midwestern TV preachers. He was his own caricature - and very good at it.
Is he still breathing?