I got home in time to see the last few minutes of the debate. Judging from the post game show and other reports, the officiating, as usual, was preferential.

Giuliani — 16:38, during 20 times
Romney — 13:18, during 19 times
Thompson — 12:16, during 12 times
McCain — 11:00, during 12 times
Huckabee — 10:00, during 11 times
Paul — 7:43, during 9 times
Hunter — 5:06, during 7 times
Tancredo — 3:49, during 7 times

Bob42,

I think you had to watch this one as a whole to understand the numbers you posted. Giuliani and Romney are very good at getting their own time, which is why this one is skewed so much.

Overall, from the “preferential” standpoint, this one was about as even as any. Huckabee would be down there with Hunter and Tancredo except that he interrupted a few times - just like Romney and Giuliani.

Was this really a debate or was it the democrat operative, CNN, attempt to tear down Republican canidates?

trl3 Says:
November 29th, 2007 at 7:56 am
Was this really a debate or was it the democrat operative, CNN, attempt to tear down Republican canidates?

I dunno, combine the stories from the last debate about the “undecded” voters asking softball questions to the Deomcrat Candidates with this one:

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/29/digging-out-the-cnnyoutube-plants-abortion-questioner-is-edwards-supporter/

And then you decide.

I think the “planting” of questions story is way over blown and a “who cares” story?

Fact is, the questions were tough and the answers were good. So, if this was some sort of conspiracy to hurt the Repubs, it didn’t work.

It was a good debate.

bigjolly,

I think you gave Giuliani and Romney too much credit. Giuliani did ok, but he really stumbled at the beginning against Romney. Romney did quite well, but completely fumbled the “don’t ask don’t tell” question and received a round of boos in response. I would have given Giuliani a B- or a C+ given just how terrible that beginning was, and Romney more like an A- or a B+.

I also think you give Thompson far, far too little credit (not too shocking). He gave good answers, but didn’t come off as the commanding presence he should have been. However, he made few mistakes, and I think clarified himself quite well on the “what programs would you cut” question — saying that there were at least a hundred programs to cut, but that they wouldn’t make any real difference if you didn’t reform the major entitlement programs. Overall, I would have given him a B.

Surprisingly, you’re also too hard on Huck. He did very well, and didn’t make any mistakes that I can immediately recall. I would have given him something in the A range for his performance (although I still don’t like him on policy, of course). I bet he’ll get an added boost coming off of this debate.

Pardon me if I don’t get excited…. again. Had higher hopes for Fred, the rest… yawn. After debate #275 still not impressed w/any.

I’ll just be happy to vote against the Dhimmicrat in the general election.

BigJolly #5

I agree that the strategy backfired, but we should not overlook the democrats blatant attempt to control the Republican Presidential Debate and embarrass the Republican candidates.

Was it not democrats who were complaining a couple of weeks ago about a staged press conference by DHS?

So who cares? I think everyone should care when one party unfairley attempts to control the debate of the other even if it doesn’t work.

LOL, Owen,

I thought Giuliani set the tone with that opening, I didn’t consider it a stumble. Have to watch it again, I guess.

Your sarcasm is noted on Fred. Ask around, see who I predicted to win this one. He fell flat. I can’t help that.

More annoying than the “plants” are the focus groups after the debate. Did y’all see the undecided “lifelong Republican” woman in the group? She said she doesn’t like any of them and wants to vote for John Edwards, of all people. Only Little Denny Kucinich is more socialist than that ambulance chaser. Who do these people think they’re fooling?

Boy the Rep’s are making it difficult to find one to stand behind at election time. Let’s just hope the Dems go ahead with the evil one because otherwise I don’t see much to get fired up about.

#1 left off the time the Army General received, about 1/3 of the time Tancredo got (?), plus 2 times (in person and on his U-Tube video).

I did not see the other U-Tube people who were there in person get a microphone. One of them might have when I went into the kitchen.

And the candidates DID answer the Generals’ question. Just not the way he wanted it answered.

I don’t know how they could have answered the question any more fairly.

hey rudy might draft rick perry for vp after his endoresement. so it could get worse.

He gave good answers, but didn’t come off as the commanding presence he should have been.

And therein lies the problem. I wasn’t grading his policies, I was grading how I thought he did in the debate. I don’t think his performance helped him in the minds of undecided voters. IMO

I do not want Guilani, McCain, Tancredo, or Paul to be the nominee.

I perfer Duncan Hunter and most likely will vote for him in the primary. I have little hope that he can over come the leaders.

If Huckabee, Thompson, or Romney becomes the canidate they could improve their chances by choosing Hunter for their second seat.

I am with bigjolly in #5. Its a non-story and the tough questions help separate the men from the boys.

bigjolly I gave the Huckabee stance on the irs some thought. I cant get his record of spending like a Bush out of my mind.

That’s cool, DJ, we all have our hot button issues.

Has anyone found that Hunter video clip? If I were his campaign manager, I’d have put that up last night.

I have a few hot button issues. One I just cant get over is trust.

DJ, are there any elected officials that you do trust?

I’m with alot of you guys in thinking they ought to be asked the tough questions which is why the democrats lose my respect. They need to set up these debates where the republicans ask the questions of the Democrats and vice versa instead of the questions being hand picked to let the candidates only answer questions that they have rehearsed answers to. Face it, if anyone of these candidates, Democrat or Republican, becomes president he or she will have to deal with all issues that come before the president and can’t pick or choose which ones they want to tackle.

bigjolly,

And therein lies the problem. I wasn’t grading his policies, I was grading how I thought he did in the debate. I don’t think his performance helped him in the minds of undecided voters. IMO

I disagree. He gave good, coherent answers. He stumbled less than in previous debates. Unlike Romney and Giuliani, he didn’t have to go on the attack quite as much and never was on the recieving end of a booing audience (Romney less so, and this was apparently his best performance).

Still surprised you aren’t singing Huck’s praises! In my mind, he came off the best in terms of convincing undecided voters.

Why does that surprise you?

bigjolly,

Well, you’re usually quite a fan of Huckabee — and he did pretty well.

bigjolly,

Well, you’re usually quite a fan of Huckabee — and he did pretty well.

He did okay. He needs to be more forceful and interrupt the moderator, much like Mitt and Rudy. If he had done that, I’d have given him an A.

As for the fan thing, I don’t think so. I call ‘em like I see ‘em. I gave him an F in debate six and Thompson an A.

Does that make me a fan of Thompson?

Man, I’m bummed out. I thought Duncan Hunter came up with that line off the cuff. Nope. It’s a freaking commercial for him. Sucked me right in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y9aDgtL-pQ

bigjolly,

Certainly not — but I do gather we’ve had different impressions of these debates (although I’ll concede I’ve only watched a few).

Of course we’ve had different impressions, we’re different people! That’s the fun of this stuff.

Some people think the fun is the attacks on each other but I like to read the different reactions we each have when we watch, read or hear the same exact thing.

#29 bj

Six blind men and an elephant.

I had them graded thusly:

Romney & Huckabee - tied with A-
Hunter - B-
McCain - D
All the rest - C

Comparing this debate to the others I’ve watched I was most impressed with Hunter’s improvement. I was also surprised how good Romney sounds. But, like DJ with Huckabee, there’s that trust thing with Romney. I did like his explanation on his pro-life conversion, though. Bottom-line I could vote for any of my top three in the general election against any of the Dems.

Had I thought about it I would have submitted a video for Hunter, Romney, and/or the Huckster, and asked him this question: “Hypothetically, if the premier white nationalist organization on the internet was actively campaigning for you would strongly and publicly disavow their support as Ronald Reagan did with the KKK in 1980?”

Mark Steyn says it pretty well:

Every time I see a Fred policy plan, he seems to have by far the best ideas, and the necessary zeal for reform, on taxes, Social Security and much else. But every time you see him in these TV debates he has the listless air of a bored grandparent at a dreary school play.

I may be wrong on this, but I do not trust Mr. Romney, he seems to be way too slick, I think he’ll tell you anything you want in order to get the nomination, look how W. fooled us all.
If Duncan Hunter or Mike Huckaby don’t get the nomination , maybe we can get Lou Dobbs to run as an independent.

Dang it I SWEAR I was gonna watch the debates last night then I got out there putting up Christmas lights and plumb forgot! Grrrr…

KRAUT,

I was that way too when these debates started. In fact, I think I referred to him as a Ken doll more than once.

But over the course of the debates and other stuff, I’ve become a supporter. He’d get my vote today if the primary was today. Not real sure when or even why I started to like him.

I like Huckabee too but wish I knew who his policy advisers would be.

I didn’t care much for Hunter but he did very well last night.

Lou Dobbs is running but he’s going under the moniker “Tom Tancredo”.

duhmoose

Trust?

Hunter, Tancredo, Paul and Thompson.

Do you blame me for having little to no trust after what the republicans pulled since they gained power coupled with the latest Rick Perry sham? It is very difficult for me to overcome.

I am not of the mindset that to be a politician you have to be a snake. We have accepted that as the norm & it gets worse every year. Most of the candidates claim to be Christians yet out and out lie to each other, about each other and to us.

I’ll take Lou Dobbs.

daniel god bless lou dobbs.

I have a question for every democrat who reads this blog to see what we radical right wing nut cases are talking about. Why do you fear a republican debate? Why is it necessary to plant questions and people in the republican audience to control a debate where republicans are supposed to be able to learn positions from their own candidates? The innocent Hilary had a gay general planted, who was even asked in the audience after the question, if he was satisfied with the answer! When has that happened in a democrat debate? Are you dems, so afraid of our choices for the presidency and their ideas, that you fear we learn how they stand on the issues? Good grief! Was it necessary to have a group of undecideds there, to be interviewed and asked if they had made their minds up after the debate? Does anyone think the woman who was asked, and answered No, she would vote for John Edwards, wasn’t a plant? It sickens me the weakness the democrats show, when they have to control a debate for republicans by republicans.

DJ, I was just wondering because from some of your other posts I was beginning to believe you thought everyone in the government was corrupt.

AW, Republicans were on the stage. Republicans got to answer the questions. Republicans had good answers.

Who cares about the questioners? It’s much ado about nothing. IMO.

BigJ, I care because our debates are for us to learn about our candidates. No questions on taxes, good debate on immigration. We had questions on Jesus and the death penalty. Do we believe every word in the bible. We had questions on gays in the military, etc. These questions were engineered to debate how the left percieves the gay hating, bible thumping republicans. I want to hear a debate on taxes….. states rights, immigration, schools. I want to know how each of them feels about the department of education.

Ron Paul said in this debate he would cut the Dept. of Education. Every other debate has talked about taxes. Gays in the military - Huckabee slapped down the guy, telling him it was about behavior. People need to hear that.

The Bible questions were in the other debates. Irrelevant but in them.

There was a question about spending, John McCain answered it in typical fashion.

Fred said he would cut entitlements, and another 100 OMB programs.

I thought it was great.

I don’t mind the plants really, as long as they are identified even after the fact. It only makes the Dems look sleazy and desperate. They may even be able to snatch defeat from the hands of victory again.

BigJ, our guys did well in the debate, because they are clear thinkers with good ideas. My anger is toward a sham of a debate where the media in conjunction with the democrat party, controls the questions. This was no free debate, but a controlled, with plants, attempt to skew perception. It didn’t work, because we have good candidates. You realize Anderson Cooper had to apologize for the gay general……. and weakly said he was unaware. It took Bill Bennet 25 seconds to identify the gay general working for the Hilary campaign. I just want people to know we aren’t boobs. We see what they try to do, and it sickens me.

Who cares about the questioners, a retrospect:

This debate is a Republican Primary contest debate, only one of the subjects, immigration, is a major concern to primary voters,
rockets to mars,
farm subsidies,
are you going to allow your VP to be as strong as Cheney*,
do you believe every word in the Bible,
and what would Jesus do are not issues in this primary for Republicans.

*McNuts answer was pure chicken shot.

Personally I think the wwJd question distasteful to say the least.

I agree with Hamous, it makes the other guys look bad. I hope they do it again.

BigJ, our guys did well in the debate, because they are clear thinkers with good ideas.

It didn’t work, because we have good candidates.

Yup, we do. And the long debate season has refined these guys. That’s another reason that Fred hasn’t done well this was their 8th or 9th (some went to the Values Voters debate) and Fred’s third.

I’ve seen a tremendous change in each and every one of these guys over the course of the debates. They are strong.

Nat, Rockets to mars and farm subsidies are important issues to me, and last I check I have voted in every Republican primary since 2001.

Nat, I thought there were some bad questions, but there always are in these debates.

I disagree about the Mars question and the farm subsidies. Those are huge issues for conservatives.

The Mars question hurt Huckabee and helped Tancredo with fiscal conservatives. Perfect question for the Repubs, IMO.

And one more thing, csHunter correcting the man about the tossed rifle, I witnessed, on the Johnny Carson show an exhibition by either 4 or 6 Marines that was fantastic, whatshisname should check it out before speaking to the proper way to handle an arm.

I’m just tired of the dems trying to control things including our debates. It makes me wonder, how much voter fraud, campaign finance and other illegal activites they have mastermined in past years. It’s to the point, I won’t put anything past them. We are polite, they stick it to us.

aw, just look at it this way, it gives you a chance to see how candidates will react to the Democrats/non-Republicans when/if they win the primary. That is just as important for winning the national election.

#52 that’s a good way to look at it duhmoose

duhmoose, I would rather see Hillary answer.

As a conservative, what new I learned about the candidates was, with what amount of grace he could navigate the liberal muck.

The “Stars & Bars” question by the guy from Houston was another stupid one, but the candidates handled it well.

didn’t see th debate wasn’t carried over here.

however its interesting to see that first was initially given to Huckabee but most now 12 hrs later are giving Fred 2nd and some now first.

Its always good to remember that when Fred attacked Hucks record - its the reports coming out these next two weeks that do any real damage.

If Huck did his usual “glossing over” (which is the new kinder phrase for lying) some people will be able to make the connect.

Will that change Iowa, perhaps, we will have to wait and see.

Why the republicans have debates on CNN I have no Idea

Keep hope alive, BL, keep hope alive.

I bet Robert could come up with 10 great questions we could give the dems if we infiltrated their debate. I’d like to ask Hilary why she feels she is qualified to be president when she has such a bad memory. All during the Clinton fiasco, when she was asked questions, she just couldn’t remember. ” I’m sorry, I just can’t remember.” She must have said that 50 times. We need a president who doesn’t have convenient amnesia. Off topic but only slightly, please don’t beat me.

I was going to do a “What’s Right With Fred” post until I saw another “lying” smear.

The only people that give Fred # 2 in that debate are Fredheads or people that didn’t watch it. Good greif.

From the Campaign Spot at NRO:

Where the hell did he go? Fred Thompson. Just faded away tonight. On a crowded stage, this guy needs more time, because he’s not doing nearly enough with the bits and pieces he’s getting now.

If you’ll stop the smears, I’ll list the good things about your candidate. Since you are apparently unable to.

bigjolly, how could anyone watch that debate and think that McCain won?

Several people have said that. The guy in Iowa, Yepsen, was drooling over him. Weird.

That gay Brigadier General should have joined the Navy, then he could have been a Rear Admiral….
http://www.ilovewavs.com/Effects/Music/RimShot.wav

I think he pimp-slapped RP on foreign policy/Iraq (I’m obviously biased) but other than that he was unenthusiastic at best.

Which reminds me, what’s with that little pencil-pointing, stab-the-air gesture the good doctor does whenever he gets flustered? I’ve seen him do that several times during the debates.

Romney an “A”…the guy dodged more questions and flip-flopped more than the Mrs C.

Better find another alter-boy…

I guess I missed those l-2-r. Can you give some examples?

Transcript of the debate:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/28/debate.transcript/

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I didn’t use the Glossed Over or the Lying - it was from Townhall

Huckabee’s answer to trying to give scholarships to illegals - wherever you stand on Huck this one’s going to be furiously researched and if they find that magic youtube video of him pushing for illegals rights

Its going to leave a mark

From the CNN Transcripts

Huckabee: Thank you very much.

Ashley, first of all, let me just express that you’re a little misinformed. We never passed a bill that gave special privileges to the children of illegals to go to college.

Now, let me tell you what I did do. I supported the bill that would’ve allowed those children who had been in our schools their entire school life the opportunity to have the same scholarship that their peers had, who had also gone to high school with them and sat in the same classrooms.

They couldn’t just move in in their senior year and go to college. It wasn’t about out of state tuition. It was an academic, meritorious scholarship called the Academic Challenge Scholarship.

Now, let me tell you a couple of provisions of it. And, by the way, it didn’t pass. It passed the House but got in the Senate and got caught up in the same kind of controversy that this country is caught up in.

And here’s what happened. This bill would’ve said that if you came here, not because you made the choice but because your parents did, that we’re not going to punish a child because the parent committed a crime.

That’s not what we typically do in this country.

It said that if you’d sat in our schools from the time you’re five or six-years old and you had become an A-plus student, you’d completed the core curriculum, you were an exceptional student, and you also had to be drug and alcohol-free — and the other provision, you had to be applying for citizenship.

It accomplished two things that we knew we wanted to do, and that is, number one, bring people from illegal status to legal status.

And the second thing, we wanted people to be taxpayers, not tax- takers. And that’s what that provision did.

And finally, would we give that provision to the children of veterans, personally? What we’ve done with not just the children of veterans, but most importantly, veterans is disgraceful in this country.

And that’s why I proposed a veterans bill of rights that, if anything, would give our veterans the most exceptional privileges of all, because they are the ones who have earned all of our freedom — every single one of them.

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Think this qoutes going to make it on a commerical from Romney?

Huckabee at the debate:

It accomplished two things that we knew we wanted to do, and that is, number one, bring people from illegal status to legal status

It might. Who knows? At least he says what he thinks. He doesn’t say, oh, no, we should never do that, and then change his mind later.

So, you willing to give up the smears for the exchange?

FACTCHECK.ORG

Catches Huckabee lies during the debate

Huckabee claimed he would “abolish the IRS.” He failed to mention that he’d replace it with another big tax bureaucracy.
Huckabee said he had proposed to make children of illegal aliens eligible for Arkansas scholarships if they “had been in our schools their entire school life.” Actually, the proposal required only three years in Arkansas schools.

Huckabee’s IRS Sleight-of-Hand

Huckabee again claimed he would get rid of the IRS, a disappearing act that isn’t so easy as he makes it sound.

Huckabee: Anderson, the first thing that I would get rid of would be the Internal Revenue Service. We’d have a complete getting rid of a $10-billion-a-year industry. I’m not being facetious. If we enacted the Fair Tax, one of the most researched ways to revive our economic future. We will get rid of the IRS.

It is true that the Fair Tax would get rid of the agency that we now call the IRS. But, according to the bill Huckabee supports: “There shall be in the Department of the Treasury a Sales Tax Bureau to administer the national sales tax in those States where it is required.” So, Huckabee would “eliminate” the IRS by replacing it with a Sales Tax Bureau.

Furthermore, the new Sales Tax Bureau wouldn’t necessarily be much smaller than the existing IRS.

It’s true that the Fair Tax has been heavily researched, as Huckabee said. But most of the research that supports it was paid for by Americans for Fair Taxation – a group that advocates the idea.

Sorry here’s the link

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/gop_youtube_debate_flubs.html

Use the link above to catch Hucks other big lie of the evening his total fabrication of his version of the Scholarships answer

Huckabee Scholars

Huckabee ran afoul of the facts when defending his failed proposal to make children of illegal immigrants eligible for state college scholarships:

Huckabee: I supported a bill that would have allowed those children who had been in our schools their entire school life the opportunity to have the same scholarship that their peers had who had also gone to high school with them and sat in the same classrooms. They couldn’t just move in in their senior year and go to college. … [It] said that if you’d sat in our schools from the time you’re 5 or 6 years old and you had become an A-plus student, you completed the core curriculum, you were an exceptional student, and you also had to be drug and alcohol free, and the other provision, you had to be applying for citizenship.

Actually, the bill Huckabee pushed for in his 2005 State of the Union address did not apply only to “those children who had been in our schools their entire school life.” It required only three years in an Arkansas high school to be eligible. And students did not have to be “applying for citizenship,” but rather they had to sign an affidavit stating their intent to do so in the future. All students who apply for state scholarships must “certify that they are drug-free” and “pledge to refrain from alcohol” if they are under 21, just as Huckabee said. But they certainly don’t have to be “an A-plus student.” The state requires a solid “B” average (a 3.0 average on a 4.0 scale). And the state may reduce that to a 2.5 average if sticking with the higher requirement “would unduly reduce the number of low-income or disadvantaged students who would otherwise be eligible for the program.” That’s a C-plus average.

The bill passed the Arkansas House but failed in the Senate. Later, a pared down version that would grant illegals in-state tuition breaks, but not scholarship rights, failed two votes short of passage.

Wow see how he soo smoothly lied and lied and lied………….

The more Huck opens his mouth the more ammunition his opponents have

I guess that is a no. I don’t mind posting his quotes, that’s cool. Calling him a liar, saying these are lies, etc., that’s not.

Have a great day in the Middle East! Guess I don’t have to look up Fred’s good stuff. There’s a lot of it. I was outlining it earlier. But since you don’t care about the guy, why should I?

Adios.

Also the 90 tax cuts were supplanted by a 21 tax hike

Also Huck had pased some big tax cuts 10 years ago, however his 21 tax hikes swept them under the rug increasing Arkansas taxes enormously

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/huckabees_fiscal_record.html

Also the tax burden table

http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/442.html

BigJolly

Ummmm

They (factcheck.org, the Cato Institute, The American Conservative Union, the Tax Foundation) looked up everyone who lied I guess they are quite busy with the good preacher and strangely enough qquite a few candidates have not been caught lying so blatantly

Go figure

I KNEW you could do it! Those are the same links you’ve posted a hundred times, but always calling him a liar. Commentary about “enormous” is cool with me.

Good job. Let People see the data, let them go to the links that explain the data (well, you didn’t provide those but that is their job anyway) and let the chips fall where they may.

There might be hope for you yet.

Ooops. Strike that last post. Maybe it is hopeless after all.

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I just don’t cotton to lying politicians from Arkansas - its a 90’s thing and well now on both sides its a millenium highway to whatever thing

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the links to the data are there as they always have been and are imbedded and footnoted by these organizations

Don’t take this personally - its Huckabee’ doing he’s lying onstage - not my doing, yours, Stalins, Ron Pauls……

Obsession…

# 63 hamous …what’s with that little pencil-pointing, stab-the-air gesture the good doctor does whenever he gets flustered? I’ve seen him do that several times during the debates.

Every time he made the gesture a portion of the crowd would erupt, that’s what I remember.

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Just pasting the truth - sometimes its alittle painful……..

Hey, no one can say I didn’t try.

I have a date to attend to with a much more interesting and better looking person than a “Bannable Lecturer” (hall of fame nick, btw).

And no, you aren’t “pasting the truth”. Perhaps some day you will, but apparently, not today.

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#83 - Ahhh! That makes sense. More cultish behavior. I did notice his crowd present at the debate was as rude and obnoxious as many of the goonies we get here. Beaucoup boos from that lot.

sometimes its alittle painful……..

No pain. Its sad, really.

Wow what an add

BTW watch Huckabee a few years ago mulling a 10% income tax surcharge in Arkansas

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/29/video-freds-attack-ad-extended-edition/

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Yes as the video in 89 attests to - its Sad that Huckabee cannot tell the truth - you are very correct to point that out

Thanks Hamous

You’re quite welcome.

Who cares about the questioners? It’s much ado about nothing. IMO.

I do.

When you let your opponent control the debate, you message doesn’t get out—his does.

And we DO have a media that has been aiding and abetting the Deomcrats in getting thier out, and obscuring that of conservatives.

All of the planeted questions were those that were designed to put conservatives in a bad light, no matter what the answer was.

and protraying Activists as “Undecided Voters” is just plain lying to people.

If you’re going to say “who cares?” about CNN colluding with the Deomcrats, then you might as well aslo say “who cares?” about any Republican candidate.

It’s time we held the feet of the press as close to the same fire as we’re holding our own candidate’s feet.

Oh really Sarge? Watcha gonna do to the press? Write em? Call them? Send them candy grams of disgust? You won’t even consider calling the RNC to try to convince them we don’t like what we are hearing from the top candidates.

Still satisfied with the idea of Rudy, an anti-gun candidate, getting the nomination? Oh I forgot as long as it ain’t a democrat, it does not matter if the winner is a Republidem. Never mind.

we’re holding our own candidate’s feet

WE?!!????

You’re idea of holding someones feet to the fire is waiting to vote in the primary. No calling anyone, no emails, nope just tell us that we got to strike the R on general day. Yep. Whose feet are you holding to the fire?

Nice try Sarge, telling us sheep what to do.

OH BTW did you happen to notice that the rats are jumping ship. SEVERAL senate republicans have announced they are retiring. That’s YOUR Republidem party Sarge.

Oh really Sarge? Watcha gonna do to the press? Write em? Call them? Send them candy grams of disgust? You won’t even consider calling the RNC to try to convince them we don’t like what we are hearing from the top candidates.

Who says I haven’t?

You assume waaaaayyyyyy to much—

As Ronal Reagan said:

“It’s not that you’re ignorant, it’s that so much of what you know is wrong.”

As to Rudy getting the nomination,please explain to me how the republican Party can keep people fromvoting for him? Or any other candidate on the slate?

Hmmmmmmm??????

Please—explain to me how they can do that.

Just once.

Oh you have been calling the RNC. Well that is good to hear.

OH wait you are calling the news outlets huh?

Muhawahahahahaha
Don’t try blowing smoke up my shorts.

As for Rudy the RNC etal have been pushing him. Wanna change their toon and his, the “so called” concerned conservatives should be melting the phone lines. But ummm I guess you are too busy to do that. Nope just got time to tell others what they should be doing. You know voting for a pretend Republican so that the democrats are kept out.

BTW did i explain to you that a pretend Republican is not a republican at all? So you will be voting for a democrat anyway.

Oh and how bout them Republidem rats that are jumping ship. Yeah bud some leaders they are/were.

#92 sargevining

That is about the weakest argument I’ve ever heard from you.

I don’t give a rat’s rear who organized it, who tried to subvert it, who tried to make Republicans look bad.

The answers speak for themselves. They kicked arse. Period. I’ll not worry one whit about the other crap. The Pubbies handled it head on and handled it well.

Fantastically well.

Go and watch it again. I wish every debate was sabotaged if this is going to be the result.

As for Rudy the RNC etal have been pushing him.

Yes, they puch every Candidate that’s running, provide them all with money, networking, and help. They are all on the same side, that’s how it works. No matter who wins the primary, the Party will support that candidate. Of course the people who vote in the primary, not the Party itself. Id your perfect candidate does not win, it will be because more people disagree with you on who is the best candidate.

Democracy—look it up.

Wanna change their toon and his, the “so called” concerned conservatives should be melting the phone lines.

But ummm I guess you are too busy to do that. Nope just got time to tell others what they should be doing.

You mean like you do when you tell me who I should be calling and what I should tell them when I do.

Got it.

You know voting for a pretend Republican so that the democrats are kept out.

I’ve looked at all the presidential Candidates.

All of them are Republicans.

BJ;

I’m with AW–

In the Primary, I want Republican voters asking Republican Candidates Republican questions.

I could give a rosy red rat’s patoot what any of those candidates thnks about Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell–and the only people who do are Deomcrats, or those who would like for it to be an issue in the next election.

Maybe one of the reasons we’re not getting the Conservative Candidates we want is that everybody knows thagt they are not going to be asked Conservative questions.

Even the guy who asked the Gun Control Question was a caricature of the “gun toting redneck” that the left loves to portray Gun Rights Activists as being.

What difference if the Candidates have great answers to the wrong questions?

All of them are Republicans.

Sure they are Sarge. Sure they are. So like I have said and others have pointed out,

Republican good, democrats bad.

That is how you vote. Doesn’t matter if we get a wolf in sheeps clothing does it?

BTW Squawk

You make rent Lott and Chck Hagfel jumping ships sound like a bad thing.

I see it as a tremendous improvement in the state of things.

Let’s get rid of more like them.

I have never told anyone what they should do. I have said time and again what I do.

Republican good, democrats bad.

That is how you vote. Doesn’t matter if we get a wolf in sheeps clothing does it?

Like I said,

It’s not that you’re ignorant. It’s that so much of what you know is wrong.

I’ve written tow good posts on Faux News about some Democrats. One of them is actually what some would call a “flaming Liberal”

I;dvote for Joe Lieverman in a heartbeat.

I voted for Kathy Whitmire more than once.

BNut as long as the Leadership of the Deomcrat Party is composed of Ted Kenedy, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Jack Murtha, Harry Ried, Barney Frank, Charlie Rangel, and all the other Liberals, I won;t be casting any votes that would further empoer them.

They tried to lose us a war we are winning.

I just plain can’t forgive that.

Doesn’t seem to bother you much, though

Oh Serge’ their leaving just proves that I was right about the Republican’s for the past 7 years, that’s all. No balls, no courage, no conviction, no leadership. Oh did I mention that those same Republicans held power for 4 years of Bushco’s administration too?

I have never told anyone what they should do. I have said time and again what I do.

Nope;

You just make a public spectacle out of claiming that they haven’t done what you think they should do

Oh really Sarge? Watcha gonna do to the press? Write em? Call them? Send them candy grams of disgust? You won’t even consider calling the RNC to try to convince them we don’t like what we are hearing from the top candidates</blockquote.

My bad.

Would it be OK if we talked about the debate here instead of this crap?

Oh so you blog it somewhere and it great and right too?

Convinces me.

(Snicker)

Frankly, I;m gald Chuck Hagle and Trent Lott and some of the others have no balls and no conviction—and that the Republican party doesn;t have the balls and conviction to try and talk them into staying.

This episode of The Sarge Is Always Wrong Show was brought to you this evening by the SOS.

Nite all

#100 sargevining,

An even weaker argument. You’re with AW because the big, bad, scary Democrats got to ask the questions?

Good grief. I hope that the Iranians never have to ask the eventual Pubbie nominee a question. Guess you guys would be running to Anderson Cooper wanting an apology.

You just make a public spectacle out of claiming that they haven’t done what you think they should do

Yep. Ya see I am a taxpayer and I want my moneys worth.

Night Serge’
Sweet Republidem lullabys to you.

BTW Serge’ You are the one that brought up “holding the feet of the press to the fire”. I merely made an analogy of your history of holding anyones feet to the fire, ummm like the Republidems.