About a week ago, I saw Ann Coulter interviewed, and she said that Mike Huckabee was the candidate the Democrats hope is nominated by the GOP, because he would be slaughtered in a general election. I didn’t think much of it because Ann is, well, provocative.
Today, however, Drudge leads his report with the following:
DEMS HOLD FIRE ON HUCAKBEE; SEE ‘EASY KILL’ IN GENERAL ELECTION.
Within the DNC, Huckabee is known as the ‘glass jaw — and they’re just waiting to break it’… The last DNC press release critical of Huckabee appeared back on March 2nd… Developing…
Stay tuned, as this story is developing on Drudge even as I type this.
Should Republicans care who the Democrats want us to nominate? Isn’t it interesting, as Drudge points out, the Democrats are hands off Huckabee as he climbs in GOP polls? Could Mike Huckabee be our electoral George McGovern?
Ah, politics.
UPDATE . . .
According to Drudge, the DNC has told its folks to “hold all fire” until after Huckabee gets the nomination.
After noting that last press release critical of Huckabee was in March, Drudge quoted the stats on DNC attacks of Republican candidates:
Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) – 37% (99 press releases)
Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) – 28% (74)
Senator John McCain (R-AZ) – 24% (64)
Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN) – 8% (20)
Governor Mike Huckabee – 2% (4)
He added that the DNC passed on the opportunity to attack Huckabee on his recently publicized 1992 comments about isolating AIDS patients.
In fact, as the story broke over the weekend that Huckabee said he wanted to isolate AIDS patients back in 1992, the DNC ignored the opportunity to slam the candidate from the left.
“He’ll easily be their McGovern, an easy kill,” mocked one senior Democrat operative Tuesday morning from Washington.
“His letting out murderers because they shout ‘Jesus’, his wanting to put 300,000 AIDS patients and Magic Johnson into isolation, ain’t even scratching the surface of what we’ve got on him.”
Nonetheless, it doesn’t seem to be worrying Huck supporters:
A close friend to Huckabee explains: “Look, Mike is Hillary Clinton’s worst nightmare. They should be squirming.”
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first - here’s Talk Left - yes they are liberals and yes they are digging and finding
James Maxwell, who killed a pastor of the Church of God in Arkansas.
Samuel W. Taylor, convicted on a drug charge. A prosecutor said the man had told him Taylor’s sister had gone to school with Huckabee. Taylor subsequently was arrested on another drug charge.
Donald W. Clark, convicted of theft. Huckabee’s pastor recommended leniency for Clark, whose stepmother worked on Huckabee’s gubernatorial staff.
Robert A. Arnold Jr., who was convicted of killing his father-in-law.
Denver Witham, convicted of beating a man to death with a lead pipe at bar, had his sentence commuted by Huckabee. The action drew the ire of prosecutors who speculated that Huckabee’s act of clemency was related to Witham, who was lead singer in a prison band, being a fellow musician.
Some others:
Last week, Huckabee issued proclamations granting clemency for … John H. Claiborne, who is serving 375 years in prison for a 1994 kidnapping and armed robbery conviction in Pulaski County. ….Also last week, the governor announced he planned commute Dennis Lewis’ sentence of life in prison without parole to time served contingent upon the successful completion of a pre-release program. Lewis was convicted of capital murder in Washington County Circuit Court in 1975, for shooting a Fayetteville pawnshop owner. Earlier this month, Huckabee issued notice of intent to grant clemency to Glen Martin Green of Jacksonville, who was sentenced to life in prison in 1975 after pleading guilty to first-degree murder
and they just started
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/12/10/10755/862
Tried to warn you, I tried…..
Its going to be brutal
Especially when Huckabee makes comments “like oh no one says a thing when I don’t grant clemency but scream when I sign a letter”
How insensitive to the families and survivors and victims
Glass jaw, easy kill. Riiiggghhhttt.
Let’s think about this. In this race, both sides, which candidate has beaten the Clinton Democrat machine not once, not twice, not thrice but FOUR times? Easy kill, eh?
Dem’s laying off? Let’s see:
Drudge has daily hit headline about Huck (recall the story about Clinton campaign being able to influence Drudge headlines?)
Huffington Post (smear story about paroled rapist, for counter see NRO today)
Daily KOS - http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/5/12622/9877
Mother Jones - http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2007/12/huckabee-faith-baptist-pastor-sermons.html
Salon - http://www.salon.com/politics/roadies/2007/12/10/huckabee_on_aids/index.html?source=rss&aim=/politics/roadies
Dems laying off?
Why would he have to beat the Clinton machine? He’s simpatico with them on taxes and immigration. He’s NOT a conservative. Sorry.
Oh, and by the way, DailyKos and Huffington post are not the point of Drudge’s headlines, and you know it. The Dem candidates have had plenty to say about Rudy, but they leave Huck alone. Sounds like they do want him as nominee.
I hope they don’t get their way.
Conservatives should put up a conservative candidate. I do not think Guilani can win and he is anything but a conservative.
Huckabee is not my choice, but the more bannable bad mouths him, the more I like him.
Just a coincidence that a former DNC official works for Hillary and that Drudge posts something like this? I think not. But, YMMV.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/us/politics/22drudge.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin
Trl3
I’m just posting what he says and others are saying
BigJolly has been spinning like a true Clintonian operator
Hey why don’t you even go help Huckabee - send him some of your hard earned money
6
Spin number 3765
6. bigjolly
I’m not sure of your point? What is unusual about a story on the DNC’s view coming from a Democrat?
RickG
Huckabees saying at fundraisers that the forces of darkness are out to get him and derail his campaign….
Prestonwood Bap just threw him a doozy of a fund raiser
Those that oppose are doomed to the fires of hell……
Oh well its hot here already
ROFLMAO
Are they sitting on his 3rd grade paper too?
Why are republicans so afraid of nominating a real conservative, and have him run on those principals? Rather than “who can beat the dimwit”?
Thompson, Hunter, Tancredo… Where are you guys? SHOW UP!
Thanks…
B.L.
If you are looking for saints in either party…well your time might be better spent doing something else.
None of the top four front-runners are totally without baggage of some sort; therefore it may end up being a contest between the leasts-worse choices.
I suspect both sides are saving their best mudpies for latter. No point wasting good dirt on someone who may or may not be in the running.
I disagree with BigJolly a lot of the time, but to be fair…I think he has been pretty fair to almost all of the Republican candidates.
Huckabee is just like BJ to me. There is a lot of ground where I disagree with him, but I could vote for him should he capture the nomination.
Huckabee seems to me:
1. To be a decent guy at heart but not a perfect one. I am sure he has made some mistakes that he regrets. I will wait to see how he explains his bigger mistakes once they become an issue.
2. Has some pretty good ideas on how to improve our federal taxing system. I don’t give him much chance on getting everything he wants, but it is a step in the right direction.
3. I believe him when he says he will govern for the benefit of the American people. I am less sure of the others, but I could be dead wrong on this point….my track record for picking good leaders is far less than 100%. I did vote for GWB in 2000 and Clinton in 1992.
Simple
Huckabee doesn’t believe in evolution. nuf said
Evolution is your deal breaker?
12.
That is an excellent question. Perhaps the party is simply becoming less conservative, and we don’t want to admit it. As you suggest, there is certainly no rush to back the conservatives in the race.
We know Rudy is no conservative, and he has been leading for months. All spin aside, Huckabee’s abysmal record on taxes, his liberal policies toward illegal immigration, and his inexplicable soft treatment of dangerous criminals certainly don’t qualify him as conservative. Romney is a recent convert to conservatism (if you believe he is converted at all) and a not so distant supporter of abortion rights and government mandated health care.
Thompson was a disappointment, never got any traction, and is done. McCain made a brief surge of his own, but is destined to retirement in Oddville. Hunter has learned that Congressmen don’t get elected President, and Tancredo, I’m sorry, borders on the scary.
Before this year, I have never, ever had a problem finding a GOP candidate I could support in the primaries - not just reluctantly vote for, but promote.
Not this year. As I’ve said so many times, this GOP field is awful. I can barely stomach the thought of voting for any of them. This will be the only time in my voting life that I will have to force myself to go to the primary polls.
I don’t see how the GOP wins the Presidency in 2008.
14.
He also once said AIDS victims should be isolated and has declined the opportunity to retract the statement.
#12 Zippy
With a nod towards Carlyle’s Great Man Theory of History, it may be as simple as no one fitting that description has stepped up to the plate. It is very frustrating, but we don’t always get the candidate we need, when we need them.
“soft on illegals”?
The Minuteman founder, Jim Gilchrist, not exactly my favorite person, just endorsed Huckabee.
19.
So? He wanted to give illegals in-state tuition. He opposed a bill requiring proof of citizenship to vote, for God’s sake. He tried to browbeat people as anti-Christian who wanted to be strong on the border.
Spin on.
19,
By the way, you misquoted me.
#17 that might be a good question for a debate. I can’t imagine that he might even REMEMBER that statement, I wouldn’t be able to tell you what I thought/said in the early 90’s that is different now. Like I said the other day when BL came out with that one, it’s been one fifteen years since then and I don’t know about anyone else but a lot of my opinions have changed in the last fifteen years, and I’m sure he has had some changes of opinion too. Lotta water under the bridge since then. But I think it WOULD be an interesting question to ask him about and settle this thing, he does need to make it clear if he disagrees or still holds to that thought.
Jim Gilchrist took stormfront money and support during his organized protests in San Diego
The Nazi flag was prominently displayed without any retractions in the press
we don’t want to go there….
I don’t think Huckabee knows about that.
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Meglet
Well, he’s been giving sermons until the early 2000’s saying basically the same thing - thats why he’s hiding his sermons
this is a first
we have a preacher
that gives anti mormon sermons on state travel expense
hides his sermons?????
Fights all FOIA requests in court in Arkansas over his pardons
Fights all FOIA requests on his business trip to Mexico and the consulate deal in Little Rock
Now is fundraising saying essentially Satan is running among his competitors
Launches a white paper to in your face Fred on immigration but has glaring mistakes and focuses the plan around an agency that was dismantled four years ago and no longer exists
No wonder Israel is nervous and calling all its citizens abroad to return home.
I heard an Islamic station screaming in Arabic today and I heard clearly Huckabee, Giuliani and wild cheering
Go figure
25 — “Now is fundraising saying essentially Satan is running among his competitors”
On some days, it appears to me that Satan is posting on LST.
22.
Oh, he remembered it. He just tried to explain it away by saying it was during a time not much was known about how AIDS was spread. But that is disingenuous:
http://dsadevil.blogspot.com/2007/12/huckabees-aids-gaffe.html
The press loves to stir the pot…I don’t blame them…they can’t have dead air on the mike….but
when all is said and done DUNCAN HUNTER IS THE RIGHT MAN FOR THE JOB. HE CAN AND WILL WIN!
I’m not in love with Huckabee, he isn’t even my second choice. That said, I don’t think he’d be nearly as bad as McCain or Giulliani. Don’t forget that Drudge and Coulter were at one time (and may still be for all I know) REALLY close, as in less than fabric thickness close if you get my drift. So just because Drudge seconded something Coulter said does not make it independent confirmation. It could easily still be coming from the same place.
#29
Drudge did Coulter? Thanks for the mental image…not!
29.
Perhaps Drudge is lying, but he says the information is from DNC insiders, not Coulter. I simply mentioned that she made the same comment last week.
So, posting facts is now spin. Posting counter-narratives to distortions, as I do in the comments section, is now spin. Posting that Huckabee was wrong on Gitmo is spin.
Interesting. Used to be that conservatives liked facts, counter-arguments and opinion.
/be right back, changing the nick to the BigSpinster.
I knew that was you.
My point was suggesting Jim Gilchrist’s endorsement provied Huckabee was spin.
Besides, I’ve seen the tax facts spun both ways, right here on this website, sometimes by me.
Spin is what you make of it. The best spinster usually wins.
29
Drudge is not Anns type I think you are remembering the guy from politically inncorrect
RickG
I downloaded all the tax data from the TaxFoundation and only 4 states raised taxes more than Huckabee, during the period he had fiscal control of Arkansas (1997 - 2007)
16 states had no increases or actually lowered the tax rate burden during the period Huckabee was governor - they were all republican administrations
18 states raised taxes less than 1/2 what Huckabee did
Even New York, New Jersey and California couldn’t raise taxes as fast as Huckabee
You can call it spin, smear, whatever or you can just call it as you see it.
Huckabee knows this data, he knows he raised taxes, so his 90 tax cut is sooo much fabrication on his part.
Bannable,
You had me going up to the fabrication part. Your analysis of the data is perfectly valid. And true, FWIW.
But then, you just can’t resist. You have to, once again, say he is a liar. T’aint true. (that’s for my trailer park friends)
Fact is, he did cut those taxes. Fact is, he did try to return excess revenues to the taxpayer, unlike your friends, Rick Perry and David Dewhurst.
Face it, Huckabee is a conservative. You guys might not like him but that is just the plain truth.
36.
If so, you have re-defined conservative, my friend.
Deal breaker = Enough already. Poop or get off the pot. And we take care of our own FIRST - no more whining excuses.
Mi amigo, it is you that have redefined or tried to redefine conservatism.
Texpat was going to post his definition of conservatism.
How’s about RickG post his? Since you say I’m not a conservative and all. Really, I’d be interested.
Because, best I can tell, Huck is the most conservative person in this particular race, on the Republican side.
Do you have a more conservative candidate? Which one?
That’s going to be a real interesting post.
Spin number 3765
No he did NOT make those tax cuts - one - one he pushed for the others were agreements within the administration were minor tax situations that were too expensive to collect
If you want - I will name them - I have read all 312 pages of the Tax Data Book from the good state of Arkansas
See some taxes are much too costly to collect in certain situations the “90″ tax cuts had mostly to do with vendor sales at state fairs - or sales taxes of donations of property at bake sales for charity and so and so forth and were usually initiated at the request of the departments that were responsible to collect those revenues.
The very fact that his campaign has not listed these magic 90 belies the fact that he misrepresented his credentials once again - Bill Clinton said the same thing in his debate with George HW Bush
Spin away, spin away
39
Really?
Wow! How delusional
Reason number 19,341 why Huckabee will be dismantled on the General election
This gem of a statement in 1998 that HE SIGNED!
Hehehe #26…
Interesting #27, I’ve been wondering how we were going around flaunting his dirty laundry from 15 years ago and no recent news about it. I mean if we went back 15 years on Ron Paul what might we find?
Okay BL #42 you REALLY have me laughing now. THAT is supposed to make us all want to run screaming? Is that the best you can do today????
Meglet
No but its an example - of what’s being dug up on Huckabee
In a general population sense, put your thinking cap on for a national campaign where Mike has to win the womens vote and those magic independents
How are statements like this going to play?
And there will be more….