When he isn’t calling people fascists for saying Merry Christmas, inciting his minions to disrupt other presidential campaigns or running around the country flirting with the idea that Bushco brought down the Twin Towers, the honorable Dr. Ron Paul is a congressman.
His army of anarchists, anti-war peaceniks and somewhat sane Libertarians like to say that he is a “different kind” of politician. Turns out he’s just another ordinary career politician, earmarking pork for people in his district. Before voting against it for appearance sakes, of course.
“Congressman Paul intends to file for re-election to his Congressional seat,” Paul’s Congressional spokeswoman Rachel Mills told Roll Call in an e-mail. “He will probably do so closer to the deadline.”
So much for a citizen legislature. 20 years and counting? Well, maybe not.
My first reaction to a story about Paul possible losing the congressional race was to laugh it off. But that was before the honorable one lost his last remaining marble. There are a lot of people in his district that say “Merry Christmas” without the slightest inkling that it is a secret code phrase for fascism.
And when these people start asking questions about that, they are going to find that Ron Paul is the only candidate being endorsed by racists and fascists. Perhaps, when they look, they will ask, is there anyone else running for CD-14’s seat?
They will find that there is indeed another choice. A solid, sane, conservative choice. A guy who, because of the activism of KSEV Radio, Edd Hendee and CLOUT, decided to get involved in the process and make changes. Chris Peden.
Chris was one of two CLOUT endorsed candidates that was listening to KSEV when he heard Edd talking about Ron Cox testifying in Austin against appraisal caps, decided he had had enough, and led the taxpayer-friendly takeover of Friendswood city council a few years back.
From his website:
I am a proven conservative Republican; the incumbent is a self-described Libertarian. I support winning the Global War on Terror and the War on Drugs; the incumbent does not. I think Islamo-Fascist terrorists were responsible for the 9/11 attacks; the incumbent thinks America’s Middle East policy’s were responsible for the attacks. I support fully funding NASA’s budget and the Vision for Space Exploration; the incumbent does not. I will support and vote for the Republican nominee for U.S. President in 2008, the incumbent will not (unless it’s him).
So yes, there is a choice for all those fascists out there who use the term, “Merry Christmas”.
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Jolly, you’re not being entirely fair…. Lake Jackson’s “Politically Correct Apostate” deserves to have his voice fairly represented in Congress as much as the next guy.
Such eloquence, gracious words simultaneously on point…
With about $200 in the bank and a “conservative, small government” platform built around increasing handouts to NASA and agriculture, something tells me Chris Peden isn’t going much of anywhere.
Maybe he needs a blimp.
Keep pushing that line, Phil_M. You just never know what will happen.
Some people were saying that not too long ago about the guy that told people Merry Christmas. Not mentioning any names of course.
Strangely enough, Dr. Paul first introduced a term limits bill for congress in the 1970s. Four decades later he’s still running for Congress.
Politics as a sporting event resemble basketball; the player must be ever aggressive on offense and defense, quick on their feet, and always hustle on defense and offense with ready elbows, feints and ploys to be used when necessary, and the observer must pay very close attention.
MONITOR, thanks for correcting my formatting.
“I am a proven conservative Republican; the incumbent is a self-described Libertarian.”
Oh, oh. Another RINO? And supported by some of the mosr antiRINO loud mouths.
“I support winning the Global War on Terror and the War on Drugs;”
Except when the WoD is being disrupted by the GWOT? I guess he also thinks that growing cucumbers in your backyard affects interstate commerce, in the aggregate, and fall within the regulatory power of the Federal government.
“the incumbent does not.”
The incumbent thinks, correctly, that regulation of inter-state commerce does not mean prohibition. Remember another kind of prohibition? It required an amendment.
“I think Islamo-Fascist terrorists were responsible for the 9/11 attacks; the incumbent thinks America’s Middle East policy’s were responsible for the attacks.”
Does he also think that personal actions have no consequences either?
“I support fully funding NASA’s budget and the Vision for Space Exploration; the incumbent does not.”
I missed NASA in the Constitution. Can you point me the article and section?
“I will support and vote for the Republican nominee for U.S. President in 2008, the incumbent will not (unless it’s him).”
Is the irony missed? I guess he agrees that the nominee must match a person’s beliefs to get the support.
If he loses the Presidential race, and his COngressional seat, will he go back to selling hair in a can and those knives that will go through a beer can like crap through a goose and still slice a tomato?
I think somebody got their feelings hurt.
Go Ron Paul!
Please, your laughable comments only precede your biased neoconservative views. This is the best you can come up with? That Ron Paul is endorsed by racist people? OMG STOP THE PRESSES!!
Please don’t patronize the intelligent people who actually read this blog by presuming that the extreme 1% of Paul supporters actually think the way they do.
Additionally, don’t twist his words around and espouse the idea that Paul was calling Huckabee a fascist. He wasn’t. He is saying that fascism will be presented in this country as something everyone will buy into. If you knew who Sinclair Lewis was then you might understand. How about reading “It Can’t Happen Here” by Lewis? Educate yourself before making uneducated statements.
You and this blog are JUST as bad as the MSM when it comes to coverage of Ron Paul. The real question is… why does he have SO much support (look at his fund raising)
“BUT LOOK AT THE POLLS OMG” you say? Please, previous Republican voters with land-based telephones? Who even HAS a land-line anymore? Polls mean nothing, all you have to do is look back at the 2004 election when the “polls” showed Kerry winning by a landslide.
People who want to know more are researching Paul and finding they like what they read. A REAL libertarian-conservative who has had a CONSTANT position all of his years in office. Who else can say that?
The real question is, when Paul finished in the top 3 in Iowa and wins New Hampshire what will you say then?
RP’s endorsement Christmas wishlist:
9/11 Troofers - check
White Nationalists - check
Isolationists - check
Protectionists - check
American Nazis - check
Kluxers - check
Stoners - check
Drug Dealers - check
Pimps - check
Prostitutes - check
Ufologists - check
Islamofascists - check
Credit Card Scammers - check
Anarchists - check
Left-wing anti-war hippies - check
Jew-impersonating homosexual unitarians - check
PS. Chris Peden is a joke. Do you seriously think he has a chance? You are full of lolsauce if you think he’ll even get half the votes Paul does.
Those were notoriously unreliable exit polls taken by Kerry supporters and none of them showed Kerry “winning by a landslide”.
@ hamous
You forgot Christians, Jews, Islamists, Blacks, Whites, Mexicans, Orientals, o wait that’s right EVERYONE from ALL ACROSS AMERICA supports Ron Paul.
Sad for you to only list the minor 1%.
Blimp drivers - check
Pass the lol sauce, thanks.
How much is 1% of 1%? ; - )
Chris Peden’s meaningful endorsements list:
oh oh I’m sorry, you must be a Luntz fanboy. Here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9EWDB_zK4
6.
Which only shows that Ron Paul is nothing but another phony politician who talks out of both sides of his mouth and has an honesty deficit. He is a little different in that he is nuttier than most.
#9 & #12
Those have to be the two most incomprehensible posts I think I’ve ever read.
I just don’t get you people who think you support RP.
I don’t need to learn anything about him, I’ve been observing for years how he has not done or accomplished ANYTHING since he got elected. Absolutely nobody will work with the man because he is a fruitcake.
On top of that, early in his political life he was all over term limits. Guess that’s not convenient for him now.
I for one am sick of Ron Paul. He needs to be retired from office, and I predict he will be soon.
This piece is dishonest and whiney.
1) Paul advocated term limits. Then he voluntarily left the Congress after his terms were up. He returned later, but he no longer imposes limits on himself. He has been clear about his reasons. Don’t try to lie.
2) Paul earmarks spending because it’s the only way to get money to the recipients instead of getting it hijacked by bureaucrats. He votes against the spending afterward for obvious reasons.
3) Paul doesn’t ‘incite’ his minions to do anything.
4) Paul didn’t directly call anyone a fascist. You know that. As a real Christian, he has a right to be annoyed with people who use their faith to get elected. More importantly, real conservatives have a right to be wary of right-wing progressives taking over the party. But Paul is right to quote Sinclair: Huckabee wants a nationwide smoking ban. Sorry, but to real conservatives, that approximates fascism.
4) Paul has said that the idea that the government is covering up for attacking the U.S. is “preposterous”. He said people get confused by this, because he thinks the government was covering up for incompetance.
5) Oh…. Paul was endorsed by a neo-Nazi! Hitler endorsed leafy green vegetables. You should go after the spinach industry too.
6) Your quote misunderstands the commonality between conservatism and libertarianism. They were considered the same thing back whent the GOP had real thinkers like Goldwater. Libertarianism is embodied in the Constitution. Conservatism is a means for interpreting the Constitution, so as to preserve liberty.
7) Paul is against the war on drugs! I am glad you don’t like drugs. If you want to outlaw them in Texas, you should. If you want to outlaw them in Maine or Alaska, you should either move there or mind your business. But you have no right to spend Americans’ money to achieve it and then call yourself a conservative.
It is dissappointing that you have resorted to obscuring the truth.
-Griz
TexKraut-
So sorry, I won’t use such big words next time. However if you google “4th Quarter 2007 fundraising” that’s all you need to know.
The people have spoken.
Oh, he voted for term limits before he voted against term limits?
I love this the best
/applause for Griz, well said.
25.
How much did the Paultards claim they were going to raise on one day in December? And how much did they actually raise?
Besides, the fact that someone can raise a lot of money from folks on the fringes of society doesn’t make him electable. Have you ever heard of Howard Dean or Lyndon LaRouche?
And the hits just keeep rolling along
Well there ya go. He voted for the earmarks before he voted against the earmarks knowing that the earmarks would be funded anyway.
Best of both worlds ehhh?
26.
In other words, Pauls is a flip-flopper. Like John Kerry, maybe? He’s just like every other politician - whatever is convenient for him is best.
By the way, has anyone come up with any meaningful legislation (which passed) that Paul ever introduced.
I know a guy whose cousin knows a man whose wife’s aunt said she once saw Ron Paul kick a dog.
Peden has even less of a chance with the 14th than Paul does with the Oval Office.
That being said, I’ll now head over to http://www.ronpaul2008.com to make my weekly $25 contrib.
29.
Isn’t it funny how the arguments of Paul’s supporters only prove the points against him?
25 ixeos
Big words sure don’t scare me off, it’s the convoluted logic that escapes me.
Fund raising? Terrific. Just means there are a lot of people being fooled out there into wasting their hard earned money. Their contributions will accomplish nothing.
The people have spoken? You must be joking.
RickG - We’ll wait till Iowa and NH, then we can talk. If Paul doesn’t do well then I will go quietly into the night. If he gets top 3 in Iowa and wins NH then what will you say?
Squak - You obviously don’t get it. If he didn’t earmark it then someone else would have gotten it.
Do you guys ever listen to what the man said initially?
I listened to Ron Paul in his interview with Alex Jones Prisonplanet radio, go look it up for yourself, he clearly stated that the US is covering for attacking on the US and wants to join Dennis the Menace in an investigation.
You guys crack me up. You’re equating fanaticism and blind obedience of about 2% (or less) of the population with votes in the primaries. Ain’t gonna happen.
Hot job prospect in March 2008 - cult deprogrammer
Ron Paul is not the enemy.
Why is the fence not built?
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/mmalkin/2007/mm_12191.shtml
The Incredible Disappearing Border Fence
By Michelle Malkin
December 19, 2007
Why are criminal illegals running thru our streets? Why is the gov currently looking into juiced up ball players? Why is the dollar dropping like a rock? Why do we not have welfare reform?
Why? Liars and thieves are running our country.
If Americans used half this energy to stop the liars and thiefs running both parties we may have a shot at saving America from total anarchy.
I guess its easier to ridicule Ron Paul and his supporters?
34.
Uh, last time I checked, third place is not first place. Nobody gets the nomination with third place.
I have always said he will fare better at the ballot box than he is in the polls because his non-Republican fringe supporters don’t show up in the polls. They will come out to vote for him, though they are mostly not Republicans and, when he loses, go back to the Libertarian or Heaven’s Gate or Vulcan or whatever party they are used to voting for.
The point is, he can’t win and he is a nut with a cult following that is little more than an annoyance (and a bit of an embarrassment to the party).
Embarrassment to the party?
The repuke party doesnt need his help ricky.
36. humorus-
I’ll agree that only 2% vote in the primaries. However Paul supporters actually show up, just ask Rudy…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5csHHBtLwds
Paulestinians are like the Rice MOB…but with a nasty mean streak and no sense of humor.
39.
Do they hand out tin foil hats at Ron Paul get-togethers, or do you have to bring your own?
38 RickG-
Embarassment to the party? Excuse me? What has Bush been? lol
Just because someone is a NEOconservative does NOT mean they speak for ALL Republicans.
40.
Yeah, they show up to try and sabotage other people’s fund-raising efforts and to skew call-in and computer polls. Just what you’d expect from followers of the “only honorable” man in the race, right?
And finally talk about the ultimate political opportuinist Ron Paul (R) is a libertarian right? Ron Paul (R) very seldom sides with Republicans in votes and policies right? So lemme see here that would make Ron Paul (R) a RINO, (Republican In Name Only) right? Can you say opportunist. Talk about yer basic false advertising. Fact is the Libertarian party does not support Ron Paul (R) and they have their own candidates
http://www.lp.org/libertydecides/
In other words Ron Paul is a carpet bagger.
43.
I am far less embarrassed by Pres Bush than I am by that kook Ron Paul.
Paul has never been a real Republican. He used the party because he couldn’t be elected in his district with another label. He’s a Libertarian at best, though I hate to slander reasonable libertarians by suggesting they are similar to Ron Paul.
I’m still waiting on a list of important laws first introduced by Ron Paul.
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#40 ixeos - We’ll see soon enough. But please don’t “go quietly into the night”. Please come back and we shall taunt you a second-a time-a ; - )
The fundraising capabilities have been impressive. He has so much money now that he can’t spend it all before this is all over. One question - What is Dr. Paul going to do with all the leftover money? In keeping with his flip-flopping I predict he will roll the money over and run as a third party candidate.
40 Rick-
You’re missing the point, obviously. If RP supporters show up to OTHER CANDIDATES EVENTS what makes you think they won’t show up in the primaries? lol
45 Squak-
No, it means that the Republican party has been hijacked by neoconservatives.
#45 Squeakbox
I would say he is playing the game and playing it quite well.
48 ham - ok just for you
Ixeos
No it means that all Ron Paul (R) did was vote no. He did nothing to change the party he aligned himself with. He also knew he could not get elected without puttling an (R) behind his name.
#49
The entire government has been highjacked. Both parties are selling Americas soul and cant seem to do it fast enough.
Ron Paul wouldnt have nearly as much support if the repuke party hadnt spit in our faces over the last six years.
I’ve been looking for video clips of RP when he points his magic pen and “the organism” erupts in hoots and hollers or boos and hisses, depending on the situation. Man, that is some funny stuff!
49.
Perhaps you should actually read my post before commenting on it. IN fact, I said quite clearly that Paul will do better on election day than in the preference polls. I don’t know how much clearer I can say it. I knew Paul supporters see the world through a different prism; maybe they see the English language through that prism as well.
As I have said repeatedly, his supporters will show up and he will do better than projected. But that only means he’ll get 8 percent instead of 2 percent. He still loses and his supporters still slink back to whatever oddball party/cadidate they normally support.
BigJolly used to write some of the most even handed political articles I’ve seen here.
The Grand Old Party Is Up for Grabs
*puts on Ms Southern Tragedy’s hat*
OK Ixeos & Griz - PLEASE if you would LIST for us any legislation that your bubba RP has PASSED (not introduced but PASSED) in his multi - decade career?
(pardon us if we don’t hold our collective breaths)
53.
A lot of people would agree with you that the GOP has acted contrary to the wishes of its grass roots members. Only a fraction of those would agree that Ron Paul is the answer (regardless of the question).
Because the GOP turned left once in power, and abandoned basic principles, I and others have long said the 2008 presidential election is lost, regardless of who we nominate. I have seen nothing lately to change that view.
56.
“the best man of the bunch”
What a laugh, bob. Isn’t it said that RP is such a prize, but only the few “smart” Paultards are savvy enough to see it?
57. Katfish
Good luck. As you know, you, I and others have been asking that for many months.
Too bad the Paulbots don’t have the fortitude to admit that the answer is “none.” They can type talking points quite well, but they can’t answer a simple question about Paul’s record.
I guess maybe they’re not as informed as they let on.
# 56 bob42
Great article.
57. Katfish, The reason you don’t get answers to that question is that a sole congressman who is barely tolerated by the corrupt party structure is not likely to get support for his measures. Instead, Dr No has voted against ALL of the most freedom threatening legislation the congress critters have come up with.
In a party that allegedly supports less government and less government intrusiveness that should be appreciated, not deprecated, but then maybe the GOP really stands for big government controlling the lives of citizens.
Kat & Rick-
While I agree that he hasn’t gotten any legislation passed in congress, his *ideas* are what is resonating in the consciousness of his followers. The MAJORITY of Paul supporters hadn’t even heard of him till he stood up to Rudy and spoke the truth of why we were attacked.
GOP = Government OVER People. We aim to change that.
bob42
He still does. And this story is another in a long distinguished list of political aritcles.
Ahhh, the old “blowback” trick! That’s the second time this month!
OK time for me to toss this out again.
I used to be a Ron Paul supporter back in the day. 911 changed all that. Ron Paul and I are diametrically opposed on what constitutes national security.
Someone tell me again how with drawing to our borders makes us strategically stronger in a world where we have enemies that want to kill us?
Please do not insult me with the Non-intervention is not Isolationism. Ron Paul’s policies are isolationist and arguing semantics do not answer my question.
#64
Yes sir. I am still wiping spit from my eye. Just yesterday I was spat upon again. It never stops.
Can one of you Paulistinians tell me what he has done in his TWENTY YEARS in Congress?
No rhetoric BS like “fighting for the little guy” or “following the Constitution”.
A bunch of hacky sack playing morons that sacrifice buying a sack of weed for a week to send cash to the Beautiful Leader all on one day does not make for “Everyone” supporting him. Grow up!
Besides, he’s a flake that wants us to run from our enemies on the battlefield. That is not the earmark of a good Commander In Chief, but works well for a coward.
When the Paulcolytes show up on a blog, they are like someone that gets on an elevator and cooks one off when the door closes. It might pass their smell test, but the rest of us can smell it for what it really is, bad gas….
Let’s make it real easy. What is Ron Paul’s policy for dealing with North Korea. They have nuclear weapons that can reach the Hawaiian Islands ya know.
Howsabout Iran? For over thrity years their policy has been stated in 3 words “Death to America”, and they have made motions to make that come true.
“While I agree that he hasn’t gotten any legislation passed in congress, his *ideas* are what is resonating in the consciousness of his followers.”
http://www.orbit.zkm.de/files/orbit/Ufo-Cult_Love03.jpg
Members of a cult are followers. I prefer citizens who vote. Jim Jones had followers, Ronald Reagan had voters.
Oh Squawkie, when will you ever learn. That’s as fruitless as ST/Katfish/RickG/et al asking for his legislative achievements.
70 squawk
Maybe he’ll drop a money bomb on them!
Ron Paul has spent 18 years in the House. How many present and former members of the House and Senate have endorsed Ron Paul ?
How many governors have endorsed Ron Paul ?
I don’t know the answers so I am asking.
Fasternu
#73
Yup
We will trade with them. Show them we are benign. We mean them no harm etc etc etc.
Wait Wait. Maybe I have been wrong here. 4 years of a lame duck president might not be a bad thing after all.
Nahhh still got that nagging problem with folks in the world that want to kill us.
hamous
#72
They are on the phone with the mothership right now begging for guidence. There is no youtube video addressing those arguments.
what to do what to do? C’mon Baba Ron they are slandering your holiness. What to do?
Ron Paul “followers”, another reason you shouldn’t smoke tha Ganja or drink while pregnant.
http://www.quitsmokinghub.com/images/pregnant_woman_smoking_web.jpg
77/72, Actually that very question was asked and answered by Ron Paul last night during his hour long interview on Glen Beck’s show.
RP in the Primaries
Buchanan took 38% in New Hampshire in 1992. He also won the early New Hampshire, Iowa and Louisiana primary battles in 1996. He was beaten soundly in the subsequent Super Tuesday vote, however. New Hampshire and Iowa are significant only for the publicity they generate.
*asked OF and answered BY…
More “Followers” of His Holiness?
http://forum.smartchina.com/forumfiles/1192367550.jpg
Anyone have answers for my two questions in #74 ?
Do any of the non-RP candidates have a sound fiscal policy to continue paying for this war on Islam?
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery
It looks like he has sponsored many bills. Most are about taxes and getting us out of the UN.
This is my favorite.
6. H.J.RES.42 : Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to deny United States citizenship to individuals born in the United States to parents who are neither United States citizens nor persons who owe permanent allegiance to the United States.
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 3/20/2003) Cosponsors (4)
texpat
I dont know the answer to that. I do however know a governor that endorsed Rudy.
1. H.CON.RES.4 : Expressing the sense of the Congress that the United States should not rejoin the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO).
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors (6)
Committees: House International Relations
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2003 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on International Relations.
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http://www.resimmax.com/data/media/484/11_1024×768.jpg
Texpat, I figure you’re smart enough google that for yourself, and I ignored the question because it is meaningless.
Governors generally don’t have the political gonads to support Ron Paul, even though he’s in favor of stronger state governments (gee, you’d think that would appeal to them.)
Ok DJ, I’ll give you that. Now, name one that he got signed into law.
Twenty years is a long time to suckle at the teat….. Term limits for all of them!
“Governors generally don’t have the political gonads to support Ron Paul, ”
Nor the gonads to poke themselves in the eye with a stick… Or to swim with alligators… or…..
Faster
You’ll give me that? WTF?
Why havent “conservatives” such as Culberson signed onto those?
How about this?
27. H.R.1146 : To end membership of the United States in the United Nations.
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 3/6/2003) Cosponsors (15)
Committees: House International Relations
Latest Major Action: 3/6/2003 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on International Relations.
bob42
Well now that does me alot of good since I do not watch Glen Beck. Gotta link
Actually Bob, if YOU gave me a synopsis relating to my question of Iran/North Korea I would trust it.
Squawkbox, I appreciate your trust, but I think giving you a synopsis would be wasted effort. I would probably sound a lot like Paul on the subject, and your mind seems pretty much made.
I’ll find you a good link to the Beck program. I didn’t watch TV last night.
This Ron Paul Blimp update is presented as a public service to RPT/LST readers
The blimp spent the night in the hanger Tuesday so that routine maintenance could be performed and the second banner attached.
It launched this morning on a northward course and crossed the Potomac around 1PM ET. A Washington DC flyover was not possible due to the “no fly zone” surrounding the capitol.
Because blimps don’t like cold weather (if too much ice forms on the top, it could flip over) they are changing the long term flight plans to head to warmer climes.
Sheila Jackson Lee has probably gotten more legislation passed than Ron Popeil….
Sheila Jackson Lee has gotten money for Katrina Victims passed (yuck). All I see for Ron Popeil is that his stuff goes to committee and dies. When it does go to a vote, it gets creamed. Twenty years is a long time.
“Why havent “conservatives” such as Culberson signed onto those?”
Because they come from Ron Paul?
Here’s the link to Ron Paul’s interview on the Glen Beck Program. It’s split into several videos, so the link takes you to the user’s page that uploaded them.
#89 bob
I don’t know and I have been too busy to look. I have to leave now, but I thought someone might know off the top of their head. Best guesses anyone ? I’ll be back in about three hours.
Here’s the link to Ron Paul’s interview on the Glen Beck Program. It’s split into several videos, so the link takes you to the user’s page that uploaded them.
#63 - DINGDINGDING! 100 bonus points for having the Hutzpah (sp?) to at least answer honestly!
*PAINFUL ANALOGY ALERT*
Now as for *ideas* - I have an idea that I’m Sam Freakin Elliot and I’m filthy rich and get all the babes……….how much will that buy at the grocery store?
#96 Faster
Nope. Cause they are part and parcel to the sellout of America.
Dont get us out of the UN cause of Ron Paul?
bob42
Here is the transcript
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0712/18/gb.01.html
Good God I just realized that we are beholden to the UN because of Ron Paul. Holy crap.
Thats it. Thanks Faster.
Check out the bills culberson is sponsoring.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery
Its nice to see he has vision.
Are blimps in the constitution? And what of this talk about Dear Leader accepting “non-traditional” matching funds? Is that another shell game, a twist of terminology to be able to say he’s not accepting FEC matching funds while still taking taxpayer money? Like voting against earmarks before voting for them.
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=49940
Ron Paul(kook)bills…get us out and rid of the UN.
John Culberson(real conservative)Aviation museums.
Bwahahaha
No freaking wonder this ship is sinking.
#103 - the dreaded “server error”
104. Hamous, Of course blimps are not in the constitution. Neither is campaign finance “reform” or matching funds.
What IS mentioned prominently in the Constitution is freedom of speech, particularly political speech. So I think it will be interesting to see how the two party duopoly reacts to the tactic of creating a commercial advertising company that exists essentially to sell political free speech, and receives its revenue directly from individuals instead of a controlled and regulated political money machine.
Hacky sack playin Paulbots??
Here ya go:
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2007/10/16/2roxon.jpg
bob42
I just read his comments. There is so much on even his foreign policies that I agree with, cutting funding to the Saudis etc. But man the guy is so naive on terrorism and the threat that Iran poses I cannot with good conscience support the guy. He believes that the terrorists are “just pissed” at us for being there and he naively believes that if we just leave all will be well for us. He is wrong and under estimates the reasons, will and determination of our stated enemies.
He did not address N. Korea. N. Korea has nukes and Kim uses that as leverage to blackmail the US. As soon as we stop the payola and say no more he will escalate and launch. I say there is no negotiating with that clown and he must be dealt with from a position of strength and use of force if necessary.
The reality in the world is we have enemies that want to kill us and the trade off is maintaining strength and locations in places dispersed around the world.
Paulsters like to quote Jefferson. Well they ignore these tidbits of wisdom from Jefferson concerning unavoidable wars.
“I think it to our interest to punish the first insult; because an insult unpunished is the parent of many others.” –Thomas Jefferson to John Jay, 1785. ME 5:95, Papers 8:427
“Peace and friendship with all mankind is our wisest policy, and I wish we may be permitted to pursue it. But the temper and folly of our enemies may not leave this in our choice.” –Thomas Jefferson to C. W. F. Dumas, 1786. ME 5:310
“I am ever unwilling that [peace] should be disturbed as long as the rights and interests of the nations can be preserved. But whensoever hostile aggressions on these require a resort to war, we must meet our duty and convince the world that we are just friends and brave enemies.” –Thomas Jefferson to Andrew Jackson, 1806. ME 19:156
“[It is] my disposition to maintain peace until its condition shall be made less tolerable than that of war itself.” –Thomas Jefferson to Noah Worcester, 1817. ME 18:298
Katfish
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas
Items 1 through 12 of 121. [110th] H.RES.286 : Expressing that the House of Representatives supports the goals and ideals of the 1940 Air Terminal Museum and requests the President issue a proclamation recognizing the 1940 Air Terminal Museum as the “National Museum of Civil Aviation”.
Sponsor: Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] (introduced 3/29/2007) Cosponsors (1)
Committees: House Transportation and Infrastructure
Latest Major Action: 3/30/2007 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Aviation.
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2. [110th] H.R.1559 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to exclude from income taxation all compensation received for active service as a member of the Armed Forces of the United States.
Sponsor: Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] (introduced 3/19/2007) Cosponsors (6)
Committees: House Ways and Means
Latest Major Action: 3/19/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.
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3. [110th] H.R.1857 : To restore State sovereignty over public elementary and secondary education.
Sponsor: Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] (introduced 4/16/2007) Cosponsors (6)
Committees: House Education and Labor
Latest Major Action: 7/9/2007 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Early Childhood, Elementary, and Secondary Education.
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4. [110th] H.R.4486 : To suspend temporarily the duty on 2-Oxepanone, homopolymer, oxydi-2,1-ethanediyl.
Sponsor: Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] (introduced 12/12/2007) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Ways and Means
Latest Major Action: 12/12/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.
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5. [110th] H.R.4487 : To suspend temporarily the duty on 2-Oxepanone, polymer with alpha-hydro-Omega-hydroxypoly (oxy-1,4-butanediyl).
Sponsor: Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] (introduced 12/12/2007) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Ways and Means
Latest Major Action: 12/12/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.
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6. [110th] H.R.4488 : To suspend temporarily the duty on 2-Oxepanone, polymer with 2,2-bis(hydroxymethyl)-1, 3-propanediol.
Sponsor: Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] (introduced 12/12/2007) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Ways and Means
Latest Major Action: 12/12/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.
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7. [110th] H.R.4489 : To suspend temporarily the duty on 2-Oxepanone, homopolymer.
Sponsor: Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] (introduced 12/12/2007) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Ways and Means
Latest Major Action: 12/12/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.
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8. [110th] H.R.4490 : To suspend temporarily the duty on 2-Oxepanone,polymer with 1,4-butanediol.
Sponsor: Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] (introduced 12/12/2007) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Ways and Means
Latest Major Action: 12/12/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.
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9. [110th] H.R.4491 : To suspend temporarily the duty on 2-Oxepanone polymer, 1-3-isobenzofuranedione terminated.
Sponsor: Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] (introduced 12/12/2007) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Ways and Means
Latest Major Action: 12/12/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.
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10. [110th] H.R.4492 : To suspend temporarily the duty on 2-Oxepanone, polymer with 1,6-hexanediol.
Sponsor: Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] (introduced 12/12/2007) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Ways and Means
Latest Major Action: 12/12/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.
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11. [110th] H.R.4493 : To suspend temporarily the duty on 2-Oxepanone, polymer with 2-ethyl-2-(hydroxymethyl)-1,3-propanediol.
Sponsor: Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] (introduced 12/12/2007) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Ways and Means
Latest Major Action: 12/12/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.
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12. [110th] H.R.4494 : To suspend temporarily the duty on 2-Oxepanone, polymer with 2,2-dimethyl-1,3-propanediol.
Sponsor: Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] (introduced 12/12/2007) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Ways and Means
Latest Major Action: 12/12/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.
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I don’t think there should be duties on homopolymers either.
Don’t look now but your agenda is showing. No where in the Fox & Friends interview was the the issue of mentioning “Christmas” brought up.
The ‘facist’ comment came in response to a question about the cross floating in behind Huckabee’s right shoulder.
Here is the YouTube video for your readers to watch and decide for themselves. I hope they will have a more open mind than the so-called “journalist”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CHb8CWw-Q4
Vic,
What does a bookshelf have to do with a cross? Eh?
Perhaps for the visually impaired, it appears to be something it isn’t. Much like Ron Paul.
Bob42, you’ve been around here long enough to know that many of us share similar positions to RP on many issues, maybe even most of them. Much like Squawk, I have only two (very big) reasons why I cannot support him:
1. His 18th Century outlook on world affairs.
2. The abnormal number of freakazoid, mind-numbed robots he seems to attract.
Many of his supporters like you, Jaime, DJ, and Phil_M do not fall into #2 but your willingness to overlook and even welcome the riffraff is puzzling and something I don’t think I’ll ever understand. Oh well, there are a lot of things I’ll never figure out.
At least there wasn’t a 900 foot tall Jesus floating in the background.
Anyone else remember this band?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiuuiTwqBLE&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y2_PYDUKBQ
109. Squawkbox, I don’t doubt that terrorists want to kill us. I also don’t doubt that the threat has been exaggerated purposefully. North Korea’s nuclear capability is overstated by both Kim II and Bush II!
You have to give ole Kim a little credit. He saw that as soon as Pakistan went nuclear, we started giving them money, so now he’s after the same loot.
I say fifty years of securing the N. Korea/S. Korea border is way more than enough. (Especially considering the lack of security on our own borders.)
Bring the troops home, end ALL aid to N. Korea, and if the idiot Kim wants to attack one of his neighbors, let them have the pleasure of wiping his starving dictatorship off the face of the planet. All of his neighbors are capable of doing this. South Korea has no nukes, but does have the conventional military capability to effect “regime change” if needed.
We give money to the Saudi’s, AND to Israel. How STUPID a foreign policy is that?
Isreal has enough nukes to turn Iran, Syria and several other hostile nations into a series of glass lined craters. Iran knows this, and is simply playing the same silly game that N. Korea is playing.
And sadly, the biggest losers of these games don’t even get a playing piece on the board. The American tax payer funds all of our foreign follies. Essentially, we’re charging the costs associated with policing the world on a MasterCard, and the folks that will eventually foot the bill haven’t even been born yet.
Maybe I’m 100% wrong on foreign policy. If you think that’s the case, then fine. But please tell me how we should get the TRILLIONS of dollars it will cost to perpetuate our current strategy.
bob42
I am not going to turn this into a link exchange of terrorism (btw I owe you some info on that point) or North Korea.
But like Paul you under estimate our enemies capabilities and ultimate desire.
Ron Paul is wrong in his Isolationist policies. And his foreign policy even with dealing with our mutual friends is damn dangerous. So on that feel free to reply but in the end we will have to agree to disagree.
116. Hamous, I don’t overlook the “riffraff” I just accept that in a grassroots movement that is excluded by the very design of our two party “winner take all” political system, you will always have a few under-informed loudmouths. When I encounter one (online or in person) I try to educate them. I don’t welcome them, but accept that they also have a right to say the silly and loud things they often say.
Daniel James
Nice dodge(s). And kinda sad, as well. The question was to name any significant legislation which was introduced by Paul that passed. All you do is cite bills he introduced which were mostly DOA. Is that the best you can do?
Any moron who got himself elected to office can introduce any piece of crap bill he wants. The test is: Can he get it passed?
You’re pretty good at blowing and going about what Paul has introduced. Can you name an important bill of his that passed? If not, will you have the honesty to admit it? Or will you simply continue to ignore issues like most Paultards?
121. RickG, A flawed premise underlies your question. Most of the bills passed by Congress do nothing but spend money, limit freedom and expand government. Do you think this is a good thing?
You can also judge Ron Paul’s congressional record by the measures that he has opposed. By that standard, he’s the taxpayer’s biggest friend, and stands against 400 of the taxpayer’s biggest enemies.
119. Squawkbox, I’m good with agreeing to disagree for now (choir practice tonight) but I’d still like to know how we will pay for perpetuating the status quo for the next 5 years, not to mention forever, which seems to be the direction both parties prefer.
122.
bob, for a smart guy, that was a really weak post. So you are saying the fact that he has never had a legislative accomplishment is a GOOD thing?
Good luck selling that to anyone other than fellow Paulbots.
And, by the way, if he has been so successful in opposing legislation, why has there been so much legislation you consider bad that has been passed? Could it be because he is not a leader, no one in Washington takes him seriously, and his ideas are unhealthy for the country?
Legislation can also be passed that eliminates or sunsets government programs. Has Dr. Paul sponsored any such legislation?
Too many cranky people that hate America like Ron Popiel.
You are only as good as the company you keep!
Rated A by VOTE-HEMP, indicating a pro-hemp voting record. (Dec 2003)
I agree with some of what he says. But where he goes off the reservation, he’s goofy. His chickenhearted foreign policy is naieve at best.
Many Ron Paul “followers” that aren’t pot smoking college kids seem to be Posse Comitatus and “Christian Identity” types that believe that:
There is no power higher than the county Sheriff
We shouldn’t pay ANY taxes
“Mud people” are taking over
The lost tribes of Israel live in Europe
They always have to “educate you”, usually by ranting and calling you a neocon. This is always effective.
I like them because they are fun to make mad…. too easy.
Nazis and Green Peace love him… HA!
If I keep this up, I’ll be late for choir practice ya’ll. (And I need all the practice I can get!)
Suffice it to say (for now) that if you want to end government expanding legislation, put this dude in the oval office and buy him a case of veto pens.
…more to come
Ron Paul sticker:
Not FOR anything
OPPOSES everything.
Hmmmm… sounds good! But is it Constitutional?
If you’ve been at a job for 20 years and ain’t done squat, you are either a Congressman or work for the City of Houston.
Sounds to me like all this RP bashing comes from his stance on Terrorism.
I wonder if the same people that write these articles bashing RP are just as zealous when it comes to Bush’s policy. Remember we went to war to keep it from coming over here……
Yet our own local news can find Arab smuggling rings into America from Mexico and nothing is done.
That’s some foreign policy. I feel safer already at home, knowing people walk across the border daily that want to kill us.
But don’t worry we are safe because we are hitting them over there and that will keep us from fighting the war in our own streets. Riiiigggghhttt…..
Well, I took bob42’s advice and Googled endorsements for Ron Paul. I could find no governors of the fifty states, present or former, who had blessed Dr.Paul. I could find no current or former members of the US House or Senate who had given their support for Paul. So it is after nearly two decades as a member of the House of Representatives, Ron Paul has been unable to convince a single living member of the House or Senate of the value of his campaign.
Broc
Yup and when I am not posting front page here or my personal blog I am probably the most vocal especially in the comments.
#130 Broc
If you were a regular reader of LST, you would know that contributors and commenters alike here almost daily publicly horsewhip some candidate. If we are feeling especially frisky, we’ll flog several simultaneously. Party affiliation is irrelevant.
Have there been any attacks on American soil since 9/11/2001? How many potential terrorist rings have been disrupted? I can think of quite a few and those are just the ones made public.
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This site really has gone downhill. I’ve seen better debates between elementary school kids. I started reading this site because of the intelligent insight it provided into Texas and local politics, but down that it has completed it’s de-evolution into ignorant immature bickering, political half-truth hack-jobs for articles, it’s losing it’s relevance quickly.
This national primary race is going to rip our loose coalition apart, all just because a few people get a laugh out of insulting their fellow conservatives. If it doesn’t start to resolve itself soon, it’s going to drag KSEV, and Dan down with it.
Y’all Rombies keep saying that and yet readership keeps going up. The only time it devolves into “immature bickering” is when we post a story critical of RP. You should see the “mature” comments that DON’T make it through. It would curdle your milk! You folks are incapable of taking criticism of your savior. Such blind obedience is dangerous.
Who said this?
“I am for preserving to the states the powers not yielded by them to the union; and for preventing the further encroachment of the executive branch on the rightful powers of congress. I am for a government rigorously frugal and simple, and for retiring the national debt, eliminating the standing army, and relying on the militia to safeguard internal security, and keeping the navy small, lest it drag the nation into eternal wars. I am for free commerce with all nations, political connections with none…. I am for freedom of religion, and for freedom of the press. And against all violations to the Constitution to silence our citizens”
Hmm. Just a guess, Daniel, but is it John McCain?
It sure as hell wasn’t Eisenhower or Reagan.
You people?
Thats sure is lumping all Ron Paul supporters into one lump of crap.
Yeah Yeah DJ it was Jefferson. And you sir need to read the rest of what Jefferson had to say about War, Taxes and the powers of congress and why he said these things? You also need to read his treatise on citizenship and personal responsiblility in relation to the government.
It is easy to yank any quote out of the overall context to fit ones ideals.
Thats TJ folks.
It wasn’t McCain? Dang, I could’ve sworn that was him.
NAT
Eisenhower warned us of the military industrial complex.
bigjolly made a funny. McLiberal thinks the gov is the answer to everything.
Jefferson, ain’t he the feller sent those Marines to Tripoli to kick some butt, sent ‘em on a US Navy vessel, sent some other US ships of war also I think.
Eisenhower:
1st nuclear submarine
1st nuclear aircraft carrier
1st B-57
1st B-52
1st U2
that complex statement is out of context also.
Squeakbox
That looks like Jeffersons platform. Those words are foreign to any politico today except Ron Paul.
Oh no its not Nat. I listened to his speech many times. He understood what was at stake.
Exactly, that is why he brought such armament online.
I read the following quote on a website discussing Neo-Con broadcaster Sean Hannity’s repeated bias against Ron Paul (i.e banning Paul supporters from Hannity’s website, lying about the poll results after the debate in Miami in which Paul clearly drew more support than any other candidate, and generally sneering at anything any Ron Paul supporters had to say). I think it applies to many of the people here on LST who continue to insult and belittle anyone who says anything supportive of Ron Paul.
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” ~ Samuel Adams 1776
If you don’t support Ron Paul, you are a god damn idiot. And you can enjoy staying that way. Don’t be surprised if people literally hate you for voting to sabotage this country - if we even have the right to express ourselves anymore.
Traitor.
Read 1984 retard, and convince yourself there isnt a problem.
Yes! More words of wisdom from The Organism! If RP fails it will primarily be because of the crazy people you have welcomed into the fold. But we all know you will blame the media, neocons (code word for Jooz), NWO, etc., anyone but the cancer you’ve allowed to metastasize.
#134
Hamous and how many of those potential attacks were stopped on US soil? Most that I read about.
I guess what I am trying to say is it seems people dont like RP for a couple of reasons. Then they just degrade and ridicule the man to death. But I dont see the same thing when it comes to Bush. Yes most of you guys will jump on Bush over the border and other mistakes, but not with the same venom you do towards RP.
Its like many of you treat Bush with a certain level of respect and you wont cross that line. Even though you totally disagree. But with RP there is no line. You make the man out to be a bumbling idiot.
I dont know to many doctors that get re-elected by a conservative district that I could call an total idiot as many do here to RP.
Oh BTW there is a video out there with Regan supporting RP. Just for the person that asked “Who ever endorsed RP”