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  1. T-Hawkk on January 28th, 2008 at 12:24 am

    first, oh yeah!

  2. NWstorm_rider on January 28th, 2008 at 2:05 am

    Its snowing in Aberdeen, WA again. Be headed to Vegas at the end of the week…I will be glad to get out of this weather!

    Have a Great Day LST!

    Ron

  3. NWstorm_rider on January 28th, 2008 at 3:24 am

    from the online publication “this is true” http://www.thisistrue.com

    ANOTHER EMPTY SUIT: Dean Hrbacek, the former mayor of Sugar Land, Texas,and now running for the U.S. House of Representatives, mailed acampaign brochure to voters. Those who looked closely could see that inthe photo of the candidate, his head didn’t quite fit on the body,which is noticeably slimmer than Hrbacek’s. Campaign officials admittedthe Republican’s photo was faked — they had a nice head shot ofHrbacek, but not a full-length photo needed for the brochure, so theypasted his head on someone else’s body. (Houston Chronicle) …Votersare well used to politicians who don’t have their heads on straight.

    ooooops! LOL

    Ron

  4. KentBook on January 28th, 2008 at 4:22 am

    Goood moooooorrrnin’, LST™

    /let’s see what kinda trouble I can get into today

  5. Mike S on January 28th, 2008 at 4:37 am

    Some good news today. Somebody is starting to get it in Washington.

    “In a shift with profound implications, the Bush administration is attempting to re-energize its terrorism-fighting war efforts in Afghanistan, the original target of a post-Sept. 11 offensive.”

    “There is growing recognition that the United States risks further setbacks, if not deepening conflict or even defeat, in Afghanistan, and that success in that country hinges on stopping Pakistan from descending into disorder.”

    “Privately, some senior U.S. military commanders say Pakistan’s tribal areas are at the center of the fight against Islamic extremism; more so than Iraq, or even Afghanistan.”

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22867626/

  6. KentBook on January 28th, 2008 at 4:41 am

    Moornin’ Mike, amazed that MSNBC would say anything positive (which isn’t really a positive article they way they structured it–but for them, well…), better check temp in H+ll.

  7. Bannable Lecturer on January 28th, 2008 at 5:19 am

    Box skipper….

  8. KentBook on January 28th, 2008 at 5:29 am

    BL: Gotta hate the box skippin’ these folks support.

    /mornin’ sqauwk, love ya’

  9. dowjones4k on January 28th, 2008 at 5:45 am

    Hi my name is John Mc Cracker, please vote for me. Look at Hillary Clackton and Barrack Hussein Obama all of us are what the big money chose for you to vote for, didn’t we do a good job?

    We wanted to see if you voters could select the least harmful candidate - can you figure it out or will you skip the box?

    Happy voting!

  10. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 5:52 am

    Squawk, you used such restraint when posting this photo!

    Good Morning ya’all.
    I recommend everyone do a spa day at the Houstonian, just the fresh cantaloupe juice alone, will cure what ails ya. And, yes, there were a few men in robes all day too.

  11. KentBook on January 28th, 2008 at 5:56 am

    AW: was that you in the picture with the Deport Sutton sign?

  12. GoodJobTim on January 28th, 2008 at 5:56 am

    It occurred to me overnight just who it is I am PO’ed at. I have been blaming the Republican party leaders for the sad choses we have for candidates. But the establishment put Rudy out there and worked the system to force him in but it apparently is not going to work.

    We had Duncan Hunter and Fred Thompson, why are they out and why is McCain still strong? The moderate Republican voter. The blue blood elitists have never let full bore conservatism be tried, they were Reagon’s leash too, and tell us we have to have them to win. Well they need us too and I think I’m ready to prove it. I’m tired of being held back.

  13. KentBook on January 28th, 2008 at 5:58 am

    Suggestions on how to do it other than sc+wing ourselves with HRC?

  14. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 5:58 am

    Kent, go to yesterday’s pictures. I posted some remarks there, Yes, it’s me.

  15. GoodJobTim on January 28th, 2008 at 5:59 am

    Lock your keys and wallet AW, thats where Edd’s keys, then car, were stolen.

  16. KentBook on January 28th, 2008 at 5:59 am

    Cool, now I can out name to picture, might recognize if we ever meet

  17. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 6:04 am

    Kent perhaps a brokered convention. I don’t know how delegates are chosen. If you can get there, and it’s a brokered convention, you will have a say, in whose chosen.

  18. GoodJobTim on January 28th, 2008 at 6:09 am

    sc+wing?? I don’t know what I will do, but a variation of Squawk’s “call your party reps, many people are going to skip the box”, I say let it be known to the moderate Republican voter know, you better not bring McCain.

  19. KentBook on January 28th, 2008 at 6:10 am

    Screwing

  20. KentBook on January 28th, 2008 at 6:11 am

    Ourselves

  21. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 6:17 am

    GJT, I rode down there with someone. I’m afraid of the toy train and all the construction……. so I avoid that mess.

  22. sargevining on January 28th, 2008 at 6:22 am

    Some good news today. Somebody is starting to get it in Washington.

    “In a shift with profound implications, the Bush administration is attempting to re-energize its terrorism-fighting war efforts in Afghanistan, the original target of a post-Sept. 11 offensive.”

    “There is growing recognition that the United States risks further setbacks, if not deepening conflict or even defeat, in Afghanistan, and that success in that country hinges on stopping Pakistan from descending into disorder.”

    In the meantime, I’ll listen to the Generals whose boots are on the ground:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/23/ap/cabstatepent/main3743711.shtml

    (AP) The Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan is unlikely to stage a spring offensive in the volatile eastern region bordering Pakistan, the commander of U.S. forces in that area said Wednesday.

    Army Maj. Gen. David Rodriguez told a Pentagon news conference that Taliban and al-Qaida fighters operating from havens in the largely ungoverned tribal areas of western Pakistan appear to have shifted their focus toward targets inside Pakistan rather than across the border in Afghanistan.

    “I don’t think there’ll be a big spring offensive this year,” Rodriguez said.

    That is partly due to ordinary Afghans’ disillusionment with the Taliban movement, he said, and partly because the Taliban and al-Qaida fighters see new opportunities to accelerate instability inside Pakistan. He also said Afghan security forces are becoming more effective partners with U.S. forces.

    The Taliban generally has staged stepped-up offensives each spring, when the weather is more favorable for ground movement, although an anticipated offensive last spring did not materialize.

    BTW;

    The spring offensive that did not materialize last year got the same kinds of dire predictions from the Media before it didn’t materialize. You know, the same folks who told us we’d alreadylost in Iraq.

    The actual shift in policy is this:

    http://www.startribune.com/nation/14165521.html

    The commander of U.S. forces in Central Asia has launched planning for more extensive use of U.S. troops to train Pakistani armed forces, a senior defense official said Wednesday.

    Adm. William J. Fallon, commander of U.S. Central Command, issued a planning order, an internal instruction to lower-level commanders, to propose ideas for a long-term approach to helping Pakistan combat what has become an expanding, homegrown insurgency that threatens the stability of the government.

    Fallon’s intent is to develop new approaches to help Pakistan, with a time horizon stretching to 2015, the official said. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the order has not been made public.

    A central assumption in the planning is that no such U.S. training contribution would be made without the Pakistani government’s prior approval, the official said.

    Fallon was in Pakistan this week meeting with senior Pakistani military officials.

  23. KentBook on January 28th, 2008 at 6:23 am

    Keep us up to date, Sarge, thanks

  24. GoodJobTim on January 28th, 2008 at 6:25 am

    Oh you already went, I misread. I don’t like dealing with the train either but I ain’t skeered. Besides no chose, I work the med center all the time.

  25. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 6:27 am

    GJT, Ree-C posted pics of the event on yesterdays posts.

  26. KentBook on January 28th, 2008 at 6:27 am

    Have a great all, outta here with very full day, may see this PM.
    Adios

  27. sargevining on January 28th, 2008 at 6:28 am

    OH;

    And the central thrust of the training will be centered around employment of the same counter insurgency tactics that General David Petreaus is using in Iraq.

  28. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 6:31 am

    Sarge, don’t you think the MSM is just trying to rouse voters to fear of more war? ” Yikes Bush is going to kill more soldiers in Afghanistan?” That’s how it appears to me.

  29. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 6:31 am

    Kent, have a great day. Stay warm.

  30. Katfish on January 28th, 2008 at 6:32 am

    Mornin Blogospherians™

    Whoa! SCHWEET Duo-Glide Squawkster! (at least I think that’s a Duo-Glide)

  31. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 6:33 am

    Looks like Ted Kennedy is going to endorse Obama! Their race is more fun to watch than ours!

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/8134.html

  32. GoodJobTim on January 28th, 2008 at 6:35 am

    “Privately, some senior U.S. military commanders say Pakistan’s tribal areas are at the center of the fight against Islamic extremism; more so than Iraq, or even Afghanistan.”

    Afghanistan and Iraq are now safer than Pakistan, more good things bad to Mike S.

  33. sargevining on January 28th, 2008 at 6:47 am

    AW;

    It certainly looks like that’s what MSNBC is aiming for.

    Every year about this time, they and others claim that we’re on the verge of losing in Adfghanistan, and blame that on our being in Iraq.

    Now, of course, Anbar province, which used to be where US Marines were stationed in Iraq doesn;t need anywhere near as many Marines today as they did a year ago because peace has broken out, so we’re able to send 3200 of them to Afghanistan.

    Which is lkely to help support this:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/24/terror/main3750895.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_3750895

    (AP) The Bush administration is willing to send a small number of U.S. combat troops to Pakistan to help fight the insurgency there if Pakistani authorities ask for such help, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Thursday.

    “We remain ready, willing and able to assist the Pakistanis and to partner with them to provide additional training, to conduct joint operations, should they desire to do so,” Gates told a news conference.

    Gates said the Pakistani government has not requested any additional assistance in the weeks since al Qaeda and affiliated extremists have intensified their fighting inside Pakistan. And he stressed that the United States would respect the Pakistanis’ judgment on the utility of American military assistance.

    “We’re not aware of any proposals that the Pakistanis have made to us at this point,” he said. “This is clearly an evolving issue. And what we have tried to communicate to the Pakistanis and essentially what we are saying here is we are prepared to look at a range of cooperation with them in a number of different areas, but at this point it’s their nickel, and we await proposals or suggestions from them.”

    it;s also what’s behind the widely beleived rumor that General Petreus’ next duty assignment will be NATO Commander. NATO is responsible for fighting in Afghanistan.

    You know, the folks who the Democrats and the media say won’t help us in the War on Terror because Bush made our allies hates us.

    But like I said—they told us we’d already lost in Iraq.

  34. sargevining on January 28th, 2008 at 6:55 am

    Ahhhh–

    Just gimme a big old hot steaming pile of Government Run Health Care–just like England’s:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/01/27/nhs127.xml

    Don’t treat the old and unhealthy, say doctors
    By Laura Donnelly, Health Correspondent
    Last Updated: 2:09am GMT 28/01/2008

    Doctors are calling for NHS treatment to be withheld from patients who are too old or who lead unhealthy lives.

    Smokers, heavy drinkers, the obese and the elderly should be barred from receiving some operations, according to doctors, with most saying the health service cannot afford to provide free care to everyone.

    £1.7 billion is spent treating diseases caused by smoking, such as lung cancer and emphysema

    snip

    About one in 10 hospitals already deny some surgery to obese patients and smokers, with restrictions most common in hospitals battling debt.

    I guesss I’ll be OK until I get old enough that the gummint decides I’ve gotten to the point where it’s too expensive to keep me alive—–

  35. Dave D on January 28th, 2008 at 7:33 am

    #6 KentBook says;…better check temp in H3ll.
    It just froze over.
    http://site.steelcityauctions.com/hellfo.jpg

  36. emmekelley on January 28th, 2008 at 7:48 am

    Mornin all, another day that God has given to us.™

  37. Robert 1 on January 28th, 2008 at 8:05 am

    The Dimwit primary is more fun to watch. Because they rely so heavily on minorities, all the “cards” get played and we get to watch the fall out. On one side we have HELLary, the “insider”, playing the gender card and on the other side we have Obama, the “outsider”, playing the race card. Is there any one out there who doesn’t think Obama won South Carolina with the “race card”?? Let’s see if the rest of the Dimwits can reel these two clowns in before the ruin the party and their chances in other political races.

  38. izquierdo on January 28th, 2008 at 8:18 am

    I wonder if Bill Clinton will be as adamant in his support of Barack as he is Hillary after Barack gets the nomination.

    37 Robert
    The last thing Barack wants to do is play the race card. Hill and Bill have played it, not Barack. It’s a sure loser for him to play it.
    I womder if McCain or Romney will try to play it in the general election like Bill and Hillary have in the primaries….

    Izzy

  39. Robert 1 on January 28th, 2008 at 8:39 am

    One has to wonder if either of the Dimwit candidates would have gotten this far purely on their qualifications and abilities. In HELLary’s case, were it not for her last name being “Clinton” and the fact that she is a woman, would she be getting any attention. In Obama’s case, were it not that he is African-American, would he be getting all this attention. HELLary claims all this experience but won’t release her and Bill’s White House records to prove it. Obama has the potential to being another “flip/flopper” because he seems to always vote “present” on legislation so you don’t know what side of the issue he is on. Actually Edwards would be a better candidate with his pretty hair and good image except for the fact that he is an “ambulance chaser”. So what is a Dimwit to do in this primary season.

    The Republicans get to see Clinton war machine work but probably already knows how ruthless it can be when trying to get back to the White House. When will the Dimwits see that the Clintons are in it for themselves and not the party.

  40. hamous on January 28th, 2008 at 8:46 am

    The last thing Barack wants to do is play the race card.

    Surprisingly, I agree with you.

    I womder if McCain or Romney will try to play it in the general election like Bill and Hillary have in the primaries….

    Neither will. But I can guarantee that some liberal mouthpiece will. It’s in their DNA to scream racism when nothing else is working. The real test will be if Obama joins in the “crying wolf” that will surely come. Let’s hope not. He is after all the candidate of “change” ; - )

  41. tedtam on January 28th, 2008 at 8:46 am

    It hit me yesterday like a ton of bricks. Handsome Son is no baby any more. I’ve known for a long time, intellectually, that he’s almost an adult. THAT is hard to miss, actually. He’s almost six feet and works out almost constantly to be ready for sports. He’s large, hairy, eats a lot, and grunts - the very definition of a teenage boy. Yesterday he was playing in a church league game and came down wrong on his ankle. I was preparing for my CCE class when a mom looked at me and said, “What’s wrong with your baby?” (I had jokingly referred to him as such just a few minutes earlier.) I jumped and ran to my son, writhing on the floor in pain. As I tried to get him to roll over and give me access to his leg, it really hit my heart just how big he was. This was NO baby! Where did the time go? And how did I ever grow something like THIS?

    Keep HS in your prayers. He’s learning to used crutches (fortunately, I had a pair from when I broke my leg). He won’t be able to play for a while, which may make him cranky on top of everything else. We’re hoping it’s just a bad sprain. He can move his ankle in circles, it just hurts like the dickens. He is sporting a rather decorative bruise on the outside of his ankle now.

  42. Simple Simon on January 28th, 2008 at 8:58 am

    12 Good Job Tim

    Actually, it is not the Republican Moderate that will win the Presidential Election, but rather it is the Moderate/Independent non-aligned voter that will win the election.

    It sounds like you would like to uninvite them from the party and lose the election in the same stroke. This is a strange strategy! Normally, most candidates are trying to get all the votes that they can.

    Mssrs Thompson, Brown, and Tancredo are no longer in the running because they ran lousy or underfunded campaigns. Notice…I did not say they were stupid, wrong, bad-people, or not qualified. They just could not sell the Republican voters for a variety of reasons. Politics is a sales job and the most important thing in a sales job is letting the prospective client know “what is in it for me”.

    None of these guys effectively communicated that singlular idea to the Republican electorate. If they could not win a Republican primary…do you think they would have had a ghost of a chance in a general election?

    Simple

  43. malcolm on January 28th, 2008 at 8:58 am

    Mornin’ emmek and all- Have a good one!
    Start the day with a smile…the rest of it will go much better….
    1. Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.
    2. Don’t worry about what people think, they don’t do it very often.
    03. Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian anymore than standing in a garage makes you a car.
    04. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.
    05. If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you’ve never tried before.
    06. My idea of housework is to sweep the room with a glance.
    07. Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious.
    08. It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
    09. For every action, there is an equal and opposite government program.
    10. If you look like your passport picture, you probably need the trip.
    11. Bills travel through the mail at twice the speed of cheques.
    12. A conscience is what hurts when all of your other parts feel so good.
    13. Eat well, stay fit, die anyway.
    14. Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it.
    15. No man has ever been shot while doing the dishes.
    16. A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand.
    17. Middle age is when broadness of the mind and narrowness of the waist change places.
    18. Opportunities always look bigger going than coming.
    19. Junk is something you’ve kept for years and throw away three weeks before you need it.
    20. There is always one more imbecile than you counted on.

  44. Taking a nap on January 28th, 2008 at 9:18 am

    Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn’t
    know this. It’s easy to check out, if you don’t believe it. Be sure and show
    it to your kids. They need a little history lesson on what’s what .and it
    doesn’t matter whether you are Democrat of Republican. Facts are Facts!!!

    Our Social Security

    Franklin Roosevelt , a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA)
    Program. He promised:

    1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary,

    2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of
    their annual Incomes into the Program,

    3.) That the money the participants elected to put Into the Program would be
    deductible from Their income for tax purposes each year,

    4.) That the money the participants put into the Independent ‘Trust Fund’
    rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would Only be
    used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government
    program, and,

    5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees Would never be taxed as
    income.

    Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are Now receiving a
    Social Security check every month — And then finding that we are getting
    taxed on 85% of The money we paid to the Federal government to ‘put Away’ –
    you may be interested in the following:

    ————————————————————-

    Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the Independent ‘Trust
    Fund’ and put it into the General fund so that Congress could spend it?

    A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically Controlled House and Senate.

    ——————————————————————–

    Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax Deduction for Social
    Security (FICA) withholding?

    A: The Democratic Party.

    ———————————————————————–

    Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

    A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding
    vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

    ——————————————————————-

    Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving Annuity payments to
    immigrants?

    AND MY FAVORITE:

    A: That’s right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
    Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, Began to receive Social
    Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, Even
    though they never paid a dime into it!

    ———————————————————————-

    Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn
    around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security
    away!

    And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!

  45. izquierdo on January 28th, 2008 at 9:24 am

    39 Robert1

    The biggest “flip-flopper” this time ’round is Mitt.
    The Dems are figuring out the Clintons.
    I watched Barack’s victory speach in South Carolina Sat night. He’s the real deal. The Clintons are running scared and are very dangerous now

    40 hamous
    I hope one of the liberal mouthpieces doesn’t start hollering racism. It will only hurt Barack’s chances. Look for mischief from both sides..

  46. hamous on January 28th, 2008 at 9:31 am

    He’s the real deal, alright.

  47. emmekelley on January 28th, 2008 at 9:38 am

    #44

    TAN

    Some parts of it are true.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/sschanges.asp

  48. southerntragedy on January 28th, 2008 at 9:40 am

    #46 Hammie: Hee hee. That was funny.

    #44 Taking a Nap: You might want to read this, shugg:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/sschanges.asp

    Had a little mishap in the neighborhood yesterday. Some kids were 4 wheeling and one girl ended up in a deep ditch. (same one that I met when I missed the deer and same one that the 3 crooks met when they were evading the police not too long ago.) Lifeflight landed in my neighbor’s yard to take her to the hospital. My horses were even interested. They watch the whole thing and chased the helicopter down the back pasture when they left. I know she has broken ribs, possibly other broken stuff. Trying to find out if she’s o.k.

    Have a great day. Be careful. It’s a jungle out there!

  49. tedtam on January 28th, 2008 at 9:55 am

    Off to x-ray Handsome Son’s ankle. I have spent waaayyy too much time in doctor’s offices and emergency rooms over the last two years. Not looking forward to his at all.

  50. Robert 1 on January 28th, 2008 at 10:08 am

    The “race” card will be played along with the “gender” card by someone, either within the individual camps or outside but they will be played. For the Republicans sake, maybe some of the Dimwits will be turned off by all the dirty politics and not vote. Although I’m not thrilled with my options on the Republican side, I’m still “ABD”–Anybody But a Dimwit!!!!!

  51. southerntragedy on January 28th, 2008 at 10:30 am

    I would recommend those Urgent Care places instead of the ER. My girlfriends daughter passed out at work so she took her to one of those places (that her insurance accepted) They got there a little before 9pm, ran all kinds of tests plus a catscan and was home by 11pm. Her co-pay at the ER woulda been $300 plus hours of waiting to be seen. Her co-pay at the other place was $75 and was seen right away. These places are popping up all over.

  52. Bannable Lecturer on January 28th, 2008 at 10:51 am

    Well McCains definitely going green - Mexican Green

    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/chavez052898.html

  53. Shannon on January 28th, 2008 at 11:38 am

    52
    Wrong link? Confused?

  54. Bannable Lecturer on January 28th, 2008 at 11:49 am

    McCains gathering rabid pro green (the libertatd party of Mexico) supports in key positions like 3rd in command - chief advisor running his campaign right now

    the Mexican green party so to speak is the over the top pro colonize America bunch

    and they are running John McCains Campaign

  55. Bannable Lecturer on January 28th, 2008 at 11:52 am

    Perenichio is McCains cheif fund raiser the founder and President of Univision

    Gee, if I in Doha and those idiots at stale air can figure this out

    How did thew NYT’s miss it

    I mean if the President of the CBN was Huckadud’s chief fundraiser we would be hearing about it

    If the President (May he rest in Peace) of the Mormon church was Romney’s chief fundraiser we would certainly be bombarded with it

    But hey, radical militant hispanics in the number 2, 4, and 5 slots in McCains staff

    not a peep

  56. Bannable Lecturer on January 28th, 2008 at 11:53 am

    oh well

    bend over texas

    Rename the Rio Grand to the highway to hell

  57. Simple Simon on January 28th, 2008 at 11:59 am

    Eric,

    Don’t worry….Hillary and Obama are busy playing a spirited gave of race cards.

    McCain and Rommney are busy trying to pin the “L” word on each other.

    Ordinarily, one would have to go to a circus to see this many clowns.

    Simple

  58. Shannon on January 28th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    I am watching Teddy Kennedy endorse Obama-rahma-ding-dong.

    He looks like he’s been off the bottle for at least a month. Maybe a little Botox, too.

  59. southerntragedy on January 28th, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    Isn’t there a TTC meeting somewhere tonight? If so, is anyone planning on attending?

  60. Butch on January 28th, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    51 ST - You are so right about the neighborhood ER clinics. The one at FM 2920 and Kuykendahl is great. When the wife fell and broke stuff they saw her right away……had a great doctor and it went fast. Never going to ER at a hospital again.

  61. Shannon on January 28th, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    59
    southerntragedy

    TTC meeting tonight in Bellville (40 miles west of Hwy. 6) at The Austion County Convention Center.
    Yes, I am going to be there.

  62. Shannon on January 28th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    61
    Austin* County

  63. emmekelley on January 28th, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    This is much better to watch then Teddy Kennedy. Everyone needs to check this one out since the Super Bowl is coming up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qTiYA1WiY8

  64. Shannon on January 28th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    Directions to TTC meeting tonight in Bellville:

    Scroll down to ‘flashing link’ for map:
    http://www.austincountyfair.com/acfair.htm

  65. Mike S on January 28th, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    Good commentary today:

    “Influenced by our subsequent experience in Iraq, we see al Qaeda as some specific organized force to be found, fixed and defeated. Al Qaeda, of course, is not one thing, and its manifestation in Iraq is quite different than Pakistan, just as it is different in London or Madrid. This misunderstanding originally influenced our turning our back on Afghanistan to fight in Iraq, and in deferring to Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf to police his own country, even though we knew that those tribal border areas (and not Iraq) were the true wellspring of Islamic extremism.”

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2008/01/dont_open_a_third_front_in_pak.html?nav=rss_blog

  66. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    It really doesn’t matter how good we do anywhere for Mike S. We’re loosing…just take his word for it. Can you imagine him in charge of public information during WW2 during these disasters:

    Pearl Harbor
    Wake
    Philippines
    Guam
    Tarawa
    Kasserine Pass
    Pelileu
    West Loch Pearl Harbor 21May1944
    Iwo Jima
    Battle of the Bulge
    Kamikazes

    German U Boats sank 6 million tons of shipping off the Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico coasts from December 1941 to December 1943 - approximately 600 ships. They even went up the mouth of the Mississippi River and sank ships.

    The Mike S’s of the world continually look for the bad news. We will never be able to change them.

  67. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    Mike, take a real good look at this:

    http://www.nps.gov/archive/cowp/Timeline.htm

    Very few victories, and tons of defeats for the colonists, right through 1780 when we lost 1/3 of the Army (the entire Southern forces) at Charleston. There were very few victories. Yet we still won our independence. Now how did we manage to do that?

    Because we DIDN’T FRIGGING QUIT, REGARDLESS OF THE ODDS. That’s how we won.

  68. Robert 1 on January 28th, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    Since there are no Jesses or Als, who speaks nationally for the Hispanic. And whose endorsement would the Dimwits need, to get the Hispanic vote. My guess is that HELLary gets the Hispanic vote because of the tension between Hispanic and blacks. It is going to be interesting when the immigration problem gets debated, how the parties stand. I guess we’ll have to wait until the convention to get the party’s platform.

  69. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    On a different topic:

    This clown was 13 when he and an 11 year old killed 5 kids in a school shooting in 1998.

    http://real-us.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080128/ap_on_re_us/jonesboro_shooter

    The state was going to let him go in 2004, but the Feds managed to keep him locked up until his 21st birthday in 2005…he spent a whopping 7 years behind bars for 5 murders. This was the kid who stole the guns from his grandfather’s home.

  70. Shannon on January 28th, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    According to Melanie Wiggins’ Torpedoes in the Gulf: Galveston and the U-Boats, 1942-1943, a total of 24 U-boats attacked ships in the Gulf of Mexico……Total losses to these U-boats in the Gulf of Mexico were 56 ships sunk and 14 damaged.

    http://www.pastfoundation.org/DeepWrecks/OtherU-boats.htm

  71. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    Robert, Hillary goes after the Hispanic vote in the general election by picking Richardson of NM. Hispanics don’t tend to vote much in the primaries, and she knows that. She definitely has a problem with the black vote in the primaries since she’s running against Obama. And she doesn’t dare accuse blacks of voting for him just because he’s black. So she’s dependent on the white liberal vote. I don’t know if she has enough to win on that.

  72. bweldon on January 28th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Today in History

    At 11:38 a.m. EST, on January 28, 1986, the space shuttle Challenger lifts off from Cape Canaveral, Florida, and Christa McAuliffe is on her way to becoming the first ordinary U.S. civilian to travel into space. McAuliffe, a 37-year-old high school social studies teacher from New Hampshire, won a competition that earned her a place among the seven-member crew of the Challenger. She underwent months of shuttle training but then, beginning January 23, was forced to wait six long days as the Challenger’s launch countdown was repeatedly delayed because of weather and technical problems. Finally, on January
    28, the shuttle lifted off.

    Seventy-three seconds later, hundreds on the ground, including Christa’s family, stared in disbelief as the shuttle exploded in a forking plume of smoke and fire. Millions more watched the wrenching tragedy unfold on live television. There were no survivors.

    thhp:\\history.com/tdih.do?action=tdihVideoCategory&id=6790

  73. bweldon on January 28th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    oops

    http:\\history.com/tdih.do?action=tdihVideoCategory&id=6790

  74. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    Shannon, and that’s just the Gulf of Mexico. Does that website give tonnage sunk? At an average of 10,000 tons, that would be 560,000 tons sunk. It took months for FDR to figure out to black out the coast line so our ships wouldn’t show against coastline.

  75. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    #74 Big45Iron

    Nearly 600 U.S. Merchant Marine ships were sunk and over 6,000 USMM sailors were killed or taken prisoner of war during WWII. In fact, in 1942 alone, 39% of the entire US merchant fleet was sunk, mostly in the North Atlantic.

  76. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    Just found out Louie Welch had died and came here to read his eulogy but couldn’t find it, that’s a shame.

  77. emmekelley on January 28th, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    My funny for you guys……………….:lol:

    #10. You can trade an old .44 for a new .22.

    #9. You can keep one gun at home and have another for when you’re on the road.

    #8. If you admire a friend’s gun and tell him so, he will probably let you try it out a few times.

    #7. Your primary gun doesn’t mind if you keep another gun for a backup.

    #6. Your gun will stay with you even if you run out of ammo.

    #5. A gun doesn’t take up a lot of closet space.

    #4. Guns function normally every day of the month.

    #3. A gun doesn’t ask , ‘Do these new grips make me look fat?’

    #2. A gun doesn’t mind if you go to sleep after you use it.

    #1. YOU CAN BUY A SILENCER FOR A GUN!

  78. emmekelley on January 28th, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    #76

    NAT PIERCE

    Your memo said for you to write the eulogy. We have been waiting. :)

  79. hamous on January 28th, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    Sorry Nat, I wasn’t familiar with Louie. He was before my time in Houston. I believe Jim McConn was mayor when I moved here. Then Tootsie forever. Thank God for term limits!

  80. Shannon on January 28th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    74 Big45Iron
    No tonnage given at that site.

  81. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    Nat, Welch was the last good Mayor Houston had. I remember when he and Herman Short cleaned up the offshoot of the Black Panthers - Peoples Party II -down at Dowling and Tuam. I got out of there just before the shooting started when I was working the weekend down at Douglas Elementary School on a construction job. That was a Sunday, 26Jul70. At about 4 PM I looked up at the church steeple over towards Dowling and Tuam, and saw a white male in a business suit in the steeple with a scoped rifle. I told my dad I think it was about time we got out of there. As we left the member of People Party II were in the street taking donations at gunpoint. They thumped on the car as we drove by and refused to give. Needless to say my Dad was a bit upset. For weeks prior to this the Peoples Party II had been terrorizing black shopkeepers in the third ward who refused to give to them, setting several of their businesses on fire.

    Short and Welch told them for over a week to put up their guns and demonstrate peacefully. When that didn’t work they went in and cleaned house, killing Carl Hampton the leader and several others. I recall them busting into one room full of firearms and hearing one black gentleman in the room loudly screaming he hadn’t done nothin!!

    If I recall right, the police killed 4-6 of them that night, and that was the end of them terrorizing that neighborhood. Of course Quanell Tenth’s group will give you an entirely different read on that.

  82. Shannon on January 28th, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    Scary Times in the Texas Valley

    Ask many Valley old timers about the “war days” in South Texas and you’ll get assorted stories and tales, enough to fill a book and far too many to recount here. But unlike many parts of the country, South Texas was a hot bed of conspiracy theories, real and present dangers, and a fear of direct war time threat. Apparently the concerns were not without foundation.

    For one, the political climate in neighboring Mexico was extremely volatile. Agents of the German war machine were known to be active throughout Mexico. Nazi Germany was the leading importer of Mexican oil, accounting for just over half the country’s annual production. Italy, another member of the Axis coalition, imported another 25-percent of Mexico’s crude. To counter the measure, oil and gas production in Texas and Louisiana was elevated. Port Isabel, for example, was the site of large oil refinery and a shipping point for oil and gas headed to the war, and as such was considered by many as a possible target for U-boat shelling or even a shore scurry.

    While U-boat activity was largely limited to 1942-43, there was at one point no less than a fleet of 20 U-boats that patrolled Gulf waters regularly in search of allied supply ships. To prevent widespread panic, the U.S. War Department decided to keep the lid on the threat, but it wasn’t long before merchant sailors and fishing vessel crews spread the word that not all ships in the Gulf were friendly. The U.S. Army, Navy and Coast Guard were assigned to beaches of Padre Island and the waters surrounding her, watching and listening posts for U-boat activity and possible ground landings on U.S. soil.

    So great was the fear of U-boat activity in the Gulf that residents along the lower Texas coast of the time would jokingly remark “there are so many German U-boats in the Gulf, it’s a wonder they don’t torpedo each other.”

    http://www.wintertexansonline.com/uboats.htm

  83. Katfish on January 28th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    from the “don’t TAZE me BRO” department…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNPxIibhcKY

  84. Fasternu 426 on January 28th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    81 Big45
    I have a copy of the official HPD offense report of that somewhere on disc!!

  85. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    Fasternu, if you happen to dig that up, I’d be curious as to how many of shops they torched down there. Those shop owners were so glad to get rid of those guys you wouldn’t believe it. Took some courage on their part to stand up to those thugs. When I went to Madison back in the 60s, we were 50% white, 25% black, 20% hispanic, and 5% other, and 100% tight knit regardless of color. 20 years later I was talking to one of my old classmates who was black and I asked him why we didn’t have the racial problems that other schools/places had. He said it was because we were too busy having fun.

  86. Shannon on January 28th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    82

    To prevent widespread panic, the U.S. War Department decided to keep the lid on the (U-Boat) threat,….

    Another darned government conspiracy. I ask you, where’s the outrage????!!!!

  87. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    To prevent widespread panic, the U.S. War Department decided to keep the lid on the (U-Boat) threat,….

    Shannon - it was all part of the Patriot Act you know, and George Bush’s fault. FDR and Bush didn’t want the people to know we were loosing the war. And what was with attacking Africa when we were at war with Germany and Japan? The Germans wouldn’t have been in Africa if we hadn’t supported the British. We created German’s in Africa.

  88. Shannon on January 28th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    87
    /remind self to ask the (several)local WWII heroes that escaped German prison camps if they’re worried about wiretaps on U.S. citizens suspected of terrorist activities

  89. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    Some liberal would still support a lawsuit by German POWs stating they were denied their due process rights during WW2.

    Interestingly too, there was a German POW camp at Roswell, NM. That could explain both the tin foil hat and the white supremecists aspect of Ron Paul’s campaign.

    http://www.southernnewmexico.com/Articles/GeneralInterest/NewMexicosprisonerofwarca.html

  90. hamous on January 28th, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    #86 DJ was right. Government/Media Complex.

  91. tedtam on January 28th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    For those who care: I have returned with Handsome Son. He will not be tearing up the court any time soon! He has a grade 2 sprain (don’t ask me what it means - I just know he can’t put any weight on it, and it’s not broken). His Achilles tendon is fine. Our doctor is great - not only does he have a background in ER work, the foot/ankle is also a specialty of his. AND he and his staff are considerably more aware of our wallet limits than most other doctors!

    HS has a detailed rehab schedule, which will drive him abso-freaking-lutely nuts, since he won’t be able to move much for a while. At least he’ll be able to recover and play again - the injury isn’t as serious as the school nurse thought it would be. Of course, if we hadn’t gotten her wrap off his ankle when we did, he could have lost a few toes to gangrene. I don’t have a medical degree, and I could tell the thing was on too tight!

  92. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    TedTam, keep him off of TV and video games. Make sure he has books to read to exercise his mind!!

  93. tedtam on January 28th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    He is reading “Rich Dad, Poor Dad” right now. It’s on Mom’s required reading list.

  94. hamous on January 28th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    What, not the Audacity of Hope??? ; - )

  95. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Excellent news Tedtam…..I can assure you he will not stop eating while rehabilitating lol.. Your big baby…… it’s hard to get your mind around, isn’t it?

  96. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    Wait until your big baby is 38 and 6′4″ with three boys. Try getting your mind around that!!

  97. Robert 1 on January 28th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    HELLary is in for one heck of a balancing act, trying to get the white vote by doing “something” about the immigration problem and trying to get the Hispanic vote by doing “nothing” about the immigration problem. The Republicans have already lost most of the Hispanic vote so they can, hopefully, speak out against immigration problem (and probably do nothing about it).

  98. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    Robert, I’ll bet Duncan Hunter’s support email dried up real quick after he endorsed Huck.

  99. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Adee keeps asking about the Huckabee endorsement. Has anyone seen anything official? Or, am I just blind, dumb, and out of the loop?

  100. hamous on January 28th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    #99 Hunter didn’t have any delegates so it really wasn’t big news.

  101. LizBV on January 28th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    Tedtam, Wait until your baby is grown and has a romantic relationship with a girl who breaks his heart. The Momma Bear instincts kick in and you will have to sit on your hands to keep from strangling her…

  102. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    #99 Hamous, I thought of you after I posted that comment, and wondered if you would ignore the last few descriptions lol.

    Liz, that goes for daughters too. My sis is going through it now with her daughter, and of course, my kiddo had her first turn at heartbreak.

  103. hamous on January 28th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    AW, I save all my ridicule up for Rombies and Daniel ; - )

  104. LizBV on January 28th, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    #99 Didn’t know about it either AW. Just knew Deputy Dawg (Chuck Norris) was backing Huckleberry Hound (Mike Huckabee). Sorry, I usually don’t stoop so low with the names but that image is stuck in my head…

  105. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    Adee if you are around…… I found it. In Duncan Hunter’s own words.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tcmPE7xh7c

  106. southerntragedy on January 28th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    american woman Says:
    January 28th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
    Adee keeps asking about the Huckabee endorsement. Has anyone seen anything official? Or, am I just blind, dumb, and out of the loop?

    There isn’t a single thing on his website or myspace page to back up that endorsement. There was a comment from someone else, asking him to endorse Huckabee, but that’s all. I’ve contacted both places for an answer. Nada word.

    I’ll letcha know something when I find out.

    You can look for yourself. I’ve got dialup.

    http://www.myspace.com/duncanhunter

  107. southerntragedy on January 28th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    #105 AW: Didn’t think to find it on youtube. DOH!

    Thanks! Will listen to it at work tomorrow.

  108. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    This is amazing. Showing how much conservatives disdain Ron Paul, in the annoying poll, he is tied with the total given for man boobs/beer bellys AND tattooed people combined!

  109. Fasternu 426 on January 28th, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    99 aw

    ..am I just blind, dumb, and out of the loop?

    There’s a loop?

  110. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    #81 Big45Iron

    The Summer of 1970

    Huey Newton, leader of the Black Panthers is released from prison in California on August 5th. It was front page news in SanFrancisco. Two days later, the 17 year old brother of Panther George Jackson entered the courthouse in San Rafael and armed three other inmates there where his brother, George was on trial. They kidnapped a judge and DA, but three of them and the judge ended up dead in a shootout.

    I was sitting in a pizza parlor in the Sunset District of San Francisco that evening with friends watching a ball game. I was 18 years old and my two buddies, Floyd and Frank, were much older and black. News bulletins broke in on the TV that one of the Panther fugutives from the shootout was in the Sunset District on the run. Suddenly, it seemed like there were a thousand police cars in the street. All the cops were in riot gear. A photo of the fugitive flashed on the screen and he was an absolute identical twin for my friend, Frank. He was terrified he would be shot. The guy who owned the Pizza place locked the door and put up the closed sign.

    He lent us a car and Floyd and I drove him to his grandmother’s house which had an apartment in the basement where he could stay until it all blew over. We took him food for the next several days.

    On August 29th, cops had a shootout in Philly with Black Panthers and one officer was killed.

    BTW, my friend Floyd Don White was the guy who co-wrote and produced the recording, “A Hundred Pounds of Clay”.

  111. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    Don’t forget Angela Davis’ part in that:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Davis

    During the summer of 1970, Davis had become involved in Black Panther efforts to garner support for the imprisoned George Jackson, Fleeta Drumgo, and John Clutchette, known as the “Soledad Brothers” (after Soledad Prison, where they were incarcerated). On August 7, George’s brother, 17-year-old Jonathon Jackson, along with two others, disrupted trial proceedings in an attempt to assist the escape of friend James McClain from the Marin County Hall of Justice. McClain was on trial for an alleged attempt to stab an officer. In the courthouse, the three stood up from their seats and, at gunpoint, directed everyone to freeze. They then led the judge, the prosecuting attorney, and several jurors into a van parked outside. As the hostages entered the van, Jackson and the others were reported to have shouted, “We want the Soledad Brothers freed by 12:30 today!”. During the escape attempt, Jackson and accomplice William Christmas were killed in a shootout with police. Judge Harold Haley was killed by his captors with a shotgun taped to his throat inside the van. Prosecutor Gary Thomas was paralyzed by a police bullet during the incident.

    A shotgun used by the escapees was registered in Davis’s name, implicating her in the escape attempt. The California warrant issued for Davis charged her as an accomplice to conspiracy, kidnapping, and homicide. On August 18, 1970, Davis became the third woman and the 309th individual to appear on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted Fugitives List.[5]

  112. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    Gosh, Big 45 I forgot all about Angela Davis….. and Texpat, too, thanks for the reminder.

  113. bweldon on January 28th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    More news from Fallujah

    For all those who say we were wrong in going there, that the surge is not working, that we need to get out now..

    http://www.fauxnews.org/blog/2008/01/28/more-news-from-iraq/

  114. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    There have been eight women on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted List during its history. Four of them were on that list in 1970:

    Angela Davis
    Bernadine Rae Dohrn
    Katherine Ann Power
    Susan Edith Saxe

    All four were involved in the Black Panther Party, Weather Underground or other radical, and criminal, organizations. The United States was in a state of great upheaval and turmoil in those days. I lived through it and would never want to see it again.

  115. KentBook on January 28th, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    Evenin’ all, did I miss anything of import?

    Loved the humor thanks to emme & malcolm–passed on with reference to you on LST

    Wasn’t Louie the one that basically lost (was it reelection?) because of an open mike before a speech? then the bumper stickers came out: “bag one for Louie”?

  116. Shannon on January 28th, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    115 Kent
    And making a coupla bucks off Intercontinental Airport placement??

    Could be.

    :>)

  117. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    In the summer of 1971, there was a campaign to re-elect Louie Welch billboard on the Katy Freeway between what is now the tollway and Wilcrest. One night a friend of mine and I had enjoyed more than our share of beer and were inspired by the fact there was a gallon can of black paint in the trunk of his car. We climbed up on the billboard and painted a giant Hitlerian moustache on Louie’s enormous portrait there.

    Twenty years later, Welch walks into my warehouse on the west side of Houston and says he wants to purchase something. He ended up spending about $ 15,000 that day. He paid cash and I made a 25% net profit. He was very nice and a complete gentleman. It so happens my Dad was there and I was feeling so guilty after Louie left, I told him the billboard story. He just shook his head and swore I had been switched at birth in the hospital.

  118. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    RE: #117

    If the statute of limitations hasn’t run out on that one, they’ll have to come a long way to get me.

  119. Katfish on January 28th, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    #117 - I REMEMBER that mustache!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  120. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    TexPat, reminds me of a night that I had before I went to boot camp. Two buckets of Mr. Bubble in Mecom Fountain (we knew that wouldn’t hurt the pumps like powdered soap) and being on top of a 12 foot ladder in the back of a pickup with several cans of green spray paint rolling down Bissonnet and wiping out the lower curve of the B. Not a cop in sight from Montrose all the way out to S. Gessner (the end of civilization then).

  121. LizBV on January 28th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    #117 & #118 LOL! You li’l hoodlum!

  122. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    #119 KF

    Shannon and Collette were living in the apartments right behind the billboard in those days.

  123. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    Texpat, okay, to tell the truth, I was just driving the truck that night. Shannon was up on the ladder.

  124. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    #120 Big

    The best bubble sabotage of Mecom Fountain was when they would mix food coloring in with the liquid soap. As in blue for Rice when they won a football game.

  125. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    #123 Big

    I wouldn’t doubt it. But you are still guilty of conspiracy as an accessory.

  126. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    It sounds like you guys had a blast when young. Things were very quiet on the farm. You could hear the corn grow.

  127. southerntragedy on January 28th, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    #127: Or the army worms eating them!

    Dang guys, back in your hoodlum days, I bet all the cops had to do was to take you home to dad.

    Now it’s off to jail, bail, fine, court fees and restitution.

  128. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 6:09 pm

    Texpat, are you sure they weren’t trying to accessorize the fountain to match the Blue Room at the top of the Warwick?

    I thought the Warwick back then was the most elegant and stately hotel I’d ever seen. They ruined it when they remodeled it. I can’t even find a reference to the Blue Room on the internet now.

  129. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 6:13 pm

    Back then the cops were just as likely to help us ST. Great guys like the late Don Easterling and Brian Edgerton. I remember Brian was one of the cops seriously injured when HPD had a little bit of trouble with the front forks coming off of some of their Kawasaki police motorcycles. I think he got $1 million out of that.

  130. LizBV on January 28th, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    Ahhhhh… parking by the fountain, spreading a blanket out on the grass, the passion of youth, the police helicopter shining a spot light on us and laughing over their loud speaker …. uh…. never mind…

  131. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    #130 Liz

    Do you have video ? It it on YouTube ?

  132. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    Liz, too bad you didn’t know about the easy access under the stage at Miller Outdoor Theater. It also didn’t have as many mosquitos.

  133. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    #128 Big

    The Warwick was really quite something in its heyday. I went to their Sunday brunch a couple of times, too. What a knockout spread of food.

  134. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    Ahem, what about the Shamrock Hilton? That was my stomping ground as I served drinks in the ” Pub”

  135. Simple Simon on January 28th, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    Kyle Janek is resigning his Senate seat. Maybe Delay can give him some pointers about working as a lobbyist.

    Simple

  136. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    Anybody remember the Cork club at the Tidelands Hotel on South Main ? They had all the top acts from New York and Hollywood back in the fifties and sixties. My parents and their friends used to go there to see shows.

  137. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 6:31 pm

    Texpat, I only remember hearing about the Cork Club. One of my favorite regulars to the Shamrock, was Mr. Bill Williams, who made his fortune by starting a fried chicken stand downtown.

  138. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    Don’t remember that. I do remember the Red Lion, Kaphans, and the South Main Tour Guide Association that was near Sonny Looks.

  139. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    Rooms at the Shamrock were itty bitty!!

  140. LizBV on January 28th, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    #138 Wow! Flash from the past! Sonny Looks was the place to see and be seen in ol’ H-town.

  141. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    #137 AW

    Bill Williams had his huge restaurant out on South Main with a giant neon chicken sign above the building. Each year he held Bill Williams Capon Dinner which was a must attend event for any politician or mover/shaker in town. It used to raise huge amounts of money for charity. Williams was also one of the forces in building the HLS&R into what it is today.

  142. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    Somebody help me out here. What was the name of the steakhouse out on Westheimer back in the fifties and sixties out in the middle of nowhere ?
    Bill ? or Bob ? It was between where Voss and Gessner are now. Westheimer was a two lane blacktop in those days.

  143. LizBV on January 28th, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    How was he associated w/ or related to a veterinarian? I remember taking a cat to a critter doctor that was somehow connected w/ Sonny Looks. Ring any bells for anyone?

  144. LizBV on January 28th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

    #142 Wouldn’t know. Only steak house dad would spring for back then was The Sizzler. And THAT was eatin’ high on the hog…

  145. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    The Cork Club owned by Glenn McCarthy was Downtown, walking distance from the club at 2016 Main.

    I saw Don Goldie introduce “a new star fresh from Broadway, the understudy to “Babs” in the musical Funny Girl, Lannie Kazan - awesome.

    Kenny Rodgers at the Terrace?

  146. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    Texpat, are you thinking of Vargos? I also remember downtown Bill Bennetts Steak House in the Sky.

  147. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    Tony’s was the place to go. Never made it there. There was the Texas Steak Ranch, worked there for a bit. Dan Pastorini ( sp) hung out there.

  148. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    But, I didn’t get here till 75

  149. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 6:55 pm

    I remember cheering seeing the footage of Dan Pastorini doing a full contact smackdown of that smart @$$ Dale Robertson with the Houston Post back in 1980.

  150. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    Trader Vic’s at the Shamrock

  151. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    Nat, one of the cooks at Trader Vics had a minor crush on me, and would send me steaks……We had to be there at 6….. delish. I was told the stories of the Shamrock, when cadillacs had steer horns for hood ornaments, and silver dollars were handed out like candy. That was the time when Judy Garland and most of the big names entertained there. Just watching them clean the chandeliers was something to see!

  152. LizBV on January 28th, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    Vargos was NICE! Especially around Christmas time. Excellent invisible wait staff. Seemed like things on your table just magically appeared and disappeared. Poof!

  153. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    Bud Bigelow’s Steakhouse was it !

    Great place that opened up out there in the forties when the pavement ended at Voss Road. It was gravel from there on out. R. E. “Bob” Smith owned thousands of acres the northern boundary of which was Westheimer. He carved out a couple of acres for Bigelow so he would have a place to go eat steak out there. It was right where Molina’s retaurant us now.

  154. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    Then there was Allen’s Landing and the Love Street Light Circus Feel Good Machine.

  155. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    There was a seafood place going South on Main between Braeswood and Stella Link on the right hand side. Had a big red crawdad on the side.

  156. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    Sonny Look’s first steak house was just south of, the Jewel of the north, Hammietown.

  157. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    Nat Pierce

    What was the name of the club at the Tidelands then ? I thought it was the Cork Club also.

    And, yeah, Lainie Kazan puts on one helluva show.

  158. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 7:23 pm

    #155 Big

    That was Christie’s Seafood.

  159. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    Gaido’s?

  160. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    #159 NP

    You’re right. It was Gaido’s and Christie’s was a little north of there.

  161. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    Gaido’s was my grandfather’s favorite restaurant and we always went twice a year, just as we went to the San Jacinto Inn twice a year.

  162. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    Always thought it was The Tidelands, the Cork was Downtown in a bank building, of that I’m sure.

    Glenn was not allowed in his club without permission and escort, there are stories…

  163. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    San Jacinto Inn harp arpeggio

  164. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    Interesting, the old time crooks, the Mitchell’s, Smith’s, Jones etc. left Houston in better shape than they found it, today, they bleed it and leave the carcass to corrupt.

  165. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    One thing that is still there, while not a restaurant, is probably one of Houston’s best kept secrets, that’s the Wheeler Boot Factory at Willow Bend and Stella Link. One of the finest bookmakers in the country. They’ve been there at least 50 years.

  166. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    NP #162, can’t be too bad is you need to call an “escort service” to get into your own club.

  167. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    Nat, Big45, Liz

    One of the reasons I’ve held a life-long animosity for Lay’s Potato Chips is they came in to Houston and bought out George Dentler’s Potato Chip company back in the sixties. They told everyone they would continue to make Dentler’s, but then immediately closed it down and sold the property. I never forgave them since Dentler’s was the best potato chip made on earth.

  168. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    What was the name of the chip factory way out 529 going towards Bellville?

  169. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    Walmart, while giving great value to its customers, has probably done more to destroy small town America than any other entity next to railroads and highways that bypassed small towns.

  170. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    #164 Nat

    There was a certain noblesse oblige among the oldtimers. They took their cut of the deals, but always left the place looking better than when they arrived. It was a Texas version of enlightened self-interest.

  171. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    #168 Big

    Bob’s Potato Chips

  172. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    Kudos’ to Dentler’s Potato Chips, there was nothing better, real potatoes sliced and fried.

    Was it Bob’s, the second coming of Dentler’s Potato chips? He could not get shelf space, at the Quick Stop, all the “name” brands could be easily found, ask where and be directed to some small obscure place and there they were.

  173. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    #162 Nat

    Glenn McCarthy wasn’t allowed in his own club because he would get into fistfights with his customers there. They didn’t pattern James Dean’s “Jett” character in the movie, Giant, after McCarthy for nothing.

  174. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Some that post here who would think the closing of all these clubs, restaurants, and businesses are part of the problem caused by how we are fighting the war on terror.

  175. Dov on January 28th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    Ruth Chris’s, that was the place to go.

    But never do Simpson’s Diner, They actually moved that place to Westheimer and Fondren.

  176. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    My dad loved the old San Francisco Steakhouse. I’m sure it had nothing to do with the girls on the swings. The Great Caruso was also excellent dining and fun entertainment.

  177. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 8:08 pm

    Ray Miller’s show ‘This is Texas’, did a spot on Houston History, the black community and the Klan. As told by a black lady a member of one the towns oldest and pre-eminent churches and civic leader: Sometime before the war the Klan was planning to come from Louisiana to Houston and make a parade and to have a rally. This lady and other church and civic members came to the mayor, Jones I believe, and implored him to not allow it, he responded for them to go home and not worry about it. The night before the Klansmen were to arrive, the mayor sent work crews out and had them switch the street signs, when the Klan drove into Houston their maps were useless, they were confounded and went back to Louisiana.
    …and not a word was said

  178. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    This was one of the sadder days in Houston history:

    http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/HH/jch4.html

    Today we know Camp Logan as Memorial Park.

  179. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    Did any of you eat at Felix Mexican Rest on West Gray in River Oaks shopping center? That was our late night feedbag after work. I worked with a gal named Charlene Loyd. She loved the Chalupa’s at Felix, and sometimes on a slow night, she would sneak out of the Shamrock, make a run to Felix for food for us. She was teflon, never got caught.

  180. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 8:18 pm

    One’s A Meal

  181. american woman on January 28th, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    Ah those were the days! G’nite ya’all……….

  182. phil on January 28th, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    State of the Mexico Union is on. How many lies will the lying sack of shinola tell tonight? I saw his entrance and he looks so proud that he has betrayed his country. All the hugs and kisses would out Judas Iscariot to shame.

    Couldn’t believe Dan Patrick thought he still believed Duncenandez to be a good man.

    He lets Ramos and Compean rot and prison and has completely turned his back on his Oath of Office. He is the biggest reason we are in this immigration mess. Good man? I think not.

    Personally, the sight of his Bonzo mug makes me ill.

  183. phil on January 28th, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    State of the Mexico Union is on. How many lies will the lying sack of shinola tell tonight? I saw his entrance and he looks so proud that he has betrayed his country. All the hugs and kisses would put Judas Iscariot to shame.

    Couldn’t believe Dan Patrick thought he still believed Duncenandez to be a good man.

    He lets Ramos and Compean rot and prison and has completely turned his back on his Oath of Office. He is the biggest reason we are in this immigration mess. Good man? I think not.

    Personally, the sight of his Bonzo mug makes me ill.

  184. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    In the ’60s “sit-ins” were being staged around the country, especially in the South, a lot of the Bull Connors’ with fire hoses and dogs video came from these events. There was a plan for a major confrontation/sit-in for Houston at Woolworth’s Downtown, Louie Welch, and the black civic leaders of the time worked in concert to cause the event to happen without incident. This is an accomplishment no other city south of the Mason-Dixon had the courage to attempt much less achieve.

  185. Big45Iron on January 28th, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    Phil, I’ve watched you rag on Pres. Bush for I don’t know how long now. We all have problems with him in one form or another. But don’t you have any other topics to discuss or people you really hate? Like liberals? Or do you just not have time to discuss them. Honestly, I could cut one of your posts and just past it every day and not have missed a thing you say.

  186. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    #184 Nat Pierce

    The story involves the Camp Logan race riots referenced by Big45Iron in #178. The man who was VP of Foley’s Department Stores had grown up near Camp Logan and experienced the riots as a little boy. He also wielded great influence with Houston newspapers and TV stations at the time because he was the biggest buyer of advertising in the city. He called a meeting with his newspaper editor friends, Lewis Cutrer, the police chief and others.

    He told them of his memories of Camp Logan and said he wasn’t going to allow the riots occurring in other parts of the country to happen in Houston again. He told all the players to let the civil rights protesters conducting sit-ins at the old FW Woolworth’s downtown have their protest and said they should be served like any other customer. He also had private meetings with black ministers from all over Houston and included city and police officals in these get-togethers. It took the wind out of any anger and hostility. Houston was the only major city in America to suffer little or no violence during that era.

    This story was recounted by a UofH prof in a book I cannot find and was told in a documentary on Channel 8. If anybody knows where I can get a copy of that book, please let me know.

  187. bob42 on January 28th, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    I just noticed something quite interesting. Rudy Giuliani shares several facial and speech mannerisms with none other than John Edward.

    Wow, who could ask for better than a psychic president!

  188. Katfish on January 28th, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    I thought ole Dubbya did purty well this evenin………..

  189. hamous on January 28th, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    The murderess Angela Davis is now a respected liberal hero and is a professor living off the taxpayers. Same thing goes for the terrorist Bernadine Dohrn.

  190. hamous on January 28th, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    While y’all are reminiscing about old Houston, anyone besides Nat and me remember Joe Matranga’s on Irvington? Texpat/Shannon, it was real close to your father’s drug store.

  191. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    hamous

    Yeah, I remember Matranga’s. Great old Houston institution.

  192. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    Our nominee will be chosen tomorrow, the tension must be reason nothing has been said.

    I cede to squawk, if Johnny wins he is not getting my vote and the party as we know it is terminated.

  193. texpat on January 28th, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    #192

    “and the party as we know it is terminated”

    I believe you are right on that one, Nat.

  194. squawkbox on January 28th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Dangit Nat

    Ya give me hell all this time only to say I “might” be right? :)

    I tell ya Nat, I do not want to be right on this at all. I sincerely hope that 8 years from now we look back and are pleasantly surprised at what happened in our country.

  195. squawkbox on January 28th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    I have chowed down on so much crow in my life I would not mind seeing a Rhuniblican president prove me totally wrong. Sadly I will probably be dining on yet another meal of Hamburger Helper.

  196. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    texpat, believing that Welch was the driving force in the white community and having difficulty giving positive credit to Curter for anything I offerthis.

    In 1959, Louie Welch was a city councilman for the City of Houston. He was politically ambitious and later became mayor of Houston. Welch was influential in the sit-in movement in Houston. When TSU students demonstrated in the city cafeteria on March 25, 1960, Welch insisted that they be served and engaged the students in conversation during their meal, thus diffusing the situation.

    Researching obscure events occurring before the internet can be difficult but I intend to find a more satisfactory substantiation of my belief.

  197. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    this.

    sheesh, Everything happens to me

  198. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    this

    I knew it was going to do that

  199. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    Hal, We’ll meet again

  200. emmekelley on January 28th, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    #199

    Nat

    Not if Hal had any say in it. :)

  201. emmekelley on January 28th, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    Wow #200 :-)

  202. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    Do you like old movies and appreciate the music?
    I stumbled on this

    every show outstanding, every score a hit.

  203. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 11:07 pm

    this for Louie:
    http://www.coe.uh.edu/untold_stories/biographies/welch_bio.html

    This for Dimitri
    http://www.dimitritiomkin.com/awards.cfm

    Wha chew Don Keys turn everything off when you go to bed?

  204. NAT PIERCE on January 28th, 2008 at 11:07 pm

    G’ nite, emme

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