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32 Responses to “An Existential Maverick”
  1. american woman on January 31st, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    Oh Texpat the thing I always thought about Thompson was, he wouldn’t play the game. He wasn’t going to pander, or lie, or beg or plead, or promise or buy. He was just going to talk to the people. Unfortunately, in this day of media hype and hollywood, we wanted more.

  2. trl3 on January 31st, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    My guess is we missed a wonderful change to elect a President that didn’t give a rat’s behind if the elite liked him or not. Someone that might actually get something done without all the PC bull excrement.

  3. Katfish on January 31st, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    Texpat you’ve just posted COMPLETELY in words that I could not previously gather why I loved this guy!!!!!!

    Come BACK Fred!!!!!!!!!!!!

  4. tqs on January 31st, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Write him in in the primary!

  5. tqs on January 31st, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    My dream team was always some combo of Hunter, Thompson, Tancredo for Pres/VP. Not what we have left to vote for.

  6. ShinerBlonde on January 31st, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    I’m glad Thompson dropped out. I would never have voted for him - a self-admitted mole for Nixon during the Senate Watergate hearings who tipped off the White House that the committee knew about the taping system and would be making the information public. In Thompson’s book, “At That Point in Time,” Thompson admitted that he acted with “no authority” in divulging the committee’s knowledge of the tapes, which provided the evidence that led to Nixon’s resignation. And that was only one of many leaks to the Nixon team, according to a former investigator for Democrats on the committee.

    I also have a problem with how Thompson spear-headed the defense machine for Scooter Libbey and is on record for asking President Bush to pardon Libby, a convicted felon and former Cheney chief-of-staff, in 2007.

    As to his unwillingness to “play the game” - what about his idiotic attempt to appear all homey and rural with his little red truck schtick?

    Thompson is a backroom wheeler-dealer and a part of the Washington establishment that has gotten this country in the mess it’s in. He should stick to acting.

  7. Fasternu 426 on January 31st, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    Plenty to vote against, nothing to vote for. Fred didn’t kiss the hiney. I liked when he wouldn’t raise his hand during the debate when the gorbal warming question was asked.

    I’ll vote for McCain only if I have to, not thrilled about Romney either. Only as a place holder to keep Bl-ack-Osama and One That Retains Water out of the same job Reagan, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and the original GW held!

  8. Juana the Mad on January 31st, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    Slipping away from a party to watch TV alone?

    Tacky tacky tacky. Guests (and hosts) do not do that.

  9. Fontessa on January 31st, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    Carl Cameron of FOX reported last week that Fred’s flirtation with running was a trial balloon for a v.p. run. Fred found out what he wanted to know.

  10. texpat on January 31st, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    #6 SB

    The prosecution of Scooter Libby and the related Valerie Plame circus was a contemptible abuse of power by a federal prosecutor. Any efforts to assist Libby in his defense were perfectly honorable and admirable. I detest the misuse of our courts to personally destroy political opponents and I would defend anyone, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian or Independent who was the victim of such legal hackery.

  11. Adee on January 31st, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    Thanks for the commentary, Texpat, and the link to the article. Well done, and it shows why Fred appeals to ADULTS in the voting populace.

  12. texpat on January 31st, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    #9 Fontessa

    With all due respect, I don’t buy Cameron’s assessment of Thompson. The idea someone would turn their lives upside down and inside out for a year minimum just to test the waters for a VP slot is crazy, especially for a person like Fred Thompson.

  13. JohnRH on January 31st, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    It would be interesting to know if he behaved the same way when he ran for senate.

  14. carbon-credit on January 31st, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    The guy never wanted the job. He entered late and departed early. Stage left. Just like a good actor should.

  15. Fontessa on January 31st, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    Permission to revise and extend my remarks for the record:
    Cameron did not report this on FOX news. I read the story at “Hot Air.” http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/22/now-it-can-be-told-carl-cameron-says-he-knew-all-along-that-fred-was-only-it-for-the-vp-nomination/

    I personally liked Fred well enough, but I don’t think Fred liked us well enough.

  16. RickG on January 31st, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    6. SB

    Thank God somebody did something to cause Nixon to resign. I liked Nixon then and now, but the summer of 1974 became surreal.

    10. Texpat

    Ditto

    The Wilson/Plames are phonies and manipulators of the first order.

    They are very good at it though. Enough to give this trial lawyer a grudging respect (but, hell, I say that aboit Gordon Liddy, too).

  17. trl3 on January 31st, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    shinerblonde

    So you are a supporter of who? Possibly the Clinton Machine?

  18. DanielJames on January 31st, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    #6 Shiner

    I could not have said it better.

    Besides that, The man did NOT want to be president. Period! He’ll find a nice sweet job somewhere in the establishment he so wanted to reign in.

  19. fat albert on January 31st, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    DJ - Actually neither did George Washington and I guess he worked out OK. I would really prefer a candidate that is a bit reluctant. I don’t trust anyone who eagerly seeks that kind of power. If they want it that bad, it’s cause they want to use it, generally when they shouldn’t.

    BTW, you statement doesn’t make any sense at all - you start the sentence by saying he didn’t want it, and end by saying he did.

  20. DanielJames on January 31st, 2008 at 6:22 pm

    FA

    A nice sweet job somewhere in the establishment is not president. His job is done. He threw us a bone now chew on it a bit. Yum yum.

    He is an actor. He acted like a corpse quite well.

  21. texpat on January 31st, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    DJ & ShinerBlonde & Fontessa

    My post was not just about Fred Thompson, but about the entire process and the history of it. What is expected of someone to become president is nothing short of insane. I don’t have any solutions, but if you read the entire article by Ferguson, you would have seen this:

    In his recent memoir, Alan Greenspan says he’s been pushing a constitutional amendment of his own devising. It reads: “Anyone willing to do what is required to become president of the United States is thereby barred from taking that office.” If the Greenspan amendment is ever enacted, it will at last clear the field for Fred Thompson, who might then become president. But not until then.

  22. DanielJames on January 31st, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    texpat

    I wasnt taking a shot at you.

    I believe Thompson did not want it. Thats all. He acts for a living. All he needed to do was act like he wanted it. A little zeal would have done wonders.

    BTW…Who cares what Alan Greenspan says?

  23. NAT PIERCE on January 31st, 2008 at 6:35 pm

    He is an actor. He acted like a corpse quite well.

    DJ, thanks

    How many men did Andrew Jackson duel and kill on the way to the White House?

    These debates, the primaries, and pressing the flesh are a necessary gauntlet allowing the survivors to be a better group from which we choose the leader of the world.

  24. nz-texas on January 31st, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    So, what are the chances Fred will vie for a VP spot?

  25. Big45Iron on January 31st, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    ShinerBlonde, are you new here, or did I miss your comments on Jamie Gorelick and Sandy Berger during the 9/11 Committee hearings?

  26. texpat on January 31st, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    #22 DJ

    I don’t take political discussions personally and, like Fred, the most important things in my life have nothing to do with politics.

    The point of the Greenspan quote was not to express admiration for him or his policies, it was simply to point out the absurdity required of candidates and modern presidential campaigns. The fact Greenspan said it was merely incidental. Writers are ethically bound to grant attribution for quotes they use.

    If it is your practice to ignore the links and background of a posted story like mine and ignore the entire thrust of the underlying article, that is your choice. If this, or any other thread, just represents one more small forum to hammer the American system and promote your Messianic leader, Ron Paul, forgive me if I am thoroughly and exhaustingly bored to the bone by that whole line.

  27. texpat on January 31st, 2008 at 8:44 pm

    #23 Nat

    I submit any normal person would, and should, be repulsed after enduring the following for 18 or 24 months:

    From the backseats of freezing cars and vans you’re hustled into overheated coffee shops and those packed school gymnasiums with the stink rising to the rafters and then the oppressive hush of corporate meeting rooms, where your nose starts to run and a film of sweat forms under your wool pullover, and you press the outstretched hands that carry every bacterial pathogen known to epidemiology. You open your mouth and you release the same cloud of words you recited yesterday and the day before. And in the Q&A, when you stop to listen, you hear the same questions and complaints from yesterday, the same mewling and blame-shifting, all imploring you to do the impossible and through some undefined action make the lives of these unhappy citizens somehow edifying, uplifting, and worth living. And you always promise you will do that; you have no choice but to tell this kind of lie.

    There’s no rest, because there’s not a moment to waste: The handful of minutes away from the kaleidoscope are spent chatting with the scorpions of the press, the ill-dressed, ill-mannered reporters from the prints and the pretty, preening peacocks of TV, each of them either a know-it-all or a cynic or a dope, take your pick, and each of whom, for professional and other reasons, will deploy all his energies and cleverness to the task of trapping you into a misstatement or ungenerous remark or expression of irritation so he can convey to his editors and the world that–at last!–you’ve made a gaffe; and if you won’t make a gaffe then he will convey to his editors and the world how “scripted” and “over rehearsed” you sound; kind of slick, almost robotic, inauthentic.

  28. pimlico on January 31st, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    I’ll miss Thompson….. I’d love McCain to try what he did to Romney last night with Thompson. Mitt needs a few years as Thomps. apprentice. As for the breaks he (Thompson)took, I say the President should have many, many breaks… why not start as one intends to go on!………. As for McCain. He gets as upset at truths being told as Clinton. ….. Maybe we should do a match up of the two of them in Las Vegas!?.

  29. NAT PIERCE on January 31st, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    texpat, the primary’s and the election cycle are tests of strength, endurance, mental capacity and agility, dominance, and all the other requisites necessary to rule the world. Yes reducing the candidate to some inauthentic autonomic caricature is absurd, however the test is necessary, and much more desirable than say, Putin’s system of choice.

    Looking to a positive future gauntlet the Internet, reducing the MSM to bystanders or better yet reporters of fact, we may arrive at a better test.

  30. mty on January 31st, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    nz-texan,

    The NZD is poised for a breakout run against the dollar.

    I don’t want to get you down, but chart setups don’t get much more bullish than this.

    Sorry about the thread hijack. Losing money sucks, and the dollar has lost 25% in a little over a year. It’s looking like we could see parity in the very near future. I didn’t know how else to pass the info - fwiw.

  31. texpat on January 31st, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    #29 Nat

    I don’t disagree with most of your points. The one I do disagree with is your assertion it is necessary to reduce candidates to “some inauthentic, autonomic caricature”. The primaries are certainly an endurance test and yet subjecting candidates now to 18-20 months of this treatment guarantees we have a new US President who is completely and totally exhausted and depleted at inauguration. I don’t think there is any wisdom whatsoever in that.

    The primary season has to last long enough to expose the strengths and weaknesses of various candidates and yet should not be so long as to exhaust the participants or require the raising of funds beyond what is reasonable. There also exists a point at which the saturation of the public airwaves with political talk becomes a wall of noise. I do hope some alternatives to the present system arise from the evolution of the internet and our mass communications.

  32. NAT PIERCE on January 31st, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    #29 Yes reducing the candidate to some inauthentic autonomic caricature is absurd, however the test is necessary,…

    …perhaps “a test” would have been a more accurate conveyance of my meaning.
    -one must constantly hone the skill, conveying precisely what one means-

    The mental and physical test must be extreme.
    We are living longer than ever before, Ronald Reagan was our oldest candidate to be elected, now the possibility of electing an even older candidate is before us. We have witnessed the frailties of Alzheimer’s take advantage of President Reagan when he endorsed the Brady Bill and Barry Goldwater when he endorsed Planned Parenthood. We must be secure in the knowledge that our candidates have the strength to carry on and that they retain the wisdom of their years and cannot be beguiled by some foreign siren song.

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