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41 Responses to “Mitt Romney: The Staunch Conservative”
  1. oldbiwan on January 31st, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    Just got another reason not to vote for McCain……GOVERNOR GOODHAIR HAS ENDORSED HIM.
    Everyone is working against me. I am going to have to abstain.

  2. BigJolly on January 31st, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    Perry is much like Romney. He stuck his finger in the wind, saw that McCain was the frontrunner and endorsed him.

    Ask Giuliani how much that helped him.

  3. Fasternu 426 on January 31st, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    Don’t vote for, vote AGAINST!

  4. Shannon on January 31st, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    Bottom line;
    McCain “parsed and selectively quoted” Romney.

    If Romney had any testicular volume, he would have called him the liar that he is.

  5. american woman on January 31st, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    Shannon I thought Romney did well by asking McCain to quote the quote. McCain is fabricating so much to keep Mitt on the defensive, because if Mitt goes after McCain’s record on many things…….. McCain will be shown as a left leaning republican. Doesn’t McCain want to close Gitmo?

  6. raiderdav on January 31st, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    I’d never make it in politics. I would have blurted “You’re so full of crap!” when McCain was telling his lies about Romney. That whole exchange was ridiculous, and Huckabee and Paul should have spoken out more.

  7. fat albert on January 31st, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    I seriously doubt that anyone here at LST would claim that Romney is the conservative standard bearer. However, given our choices, he’s by far the best of a bad lot.

    I absolutely don’t subscribe to the deplorable philosophy of “let the dems have it and we’ll try for 20012″. The next President will probably nominate 2 Supreme Count Justices. Do we really want any Justices that Hillary or Obama would give us?

    So, on March 5th I’ll hold my nose and vote for Romney. And, in November, I’ll hold it once again and vote for ANY republican against either of the democrats. I won’t like it, but I’ll do it.

  8. fat albert on January 31st, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    Sorry, that’s 2012, not 20012.

  9. Shannon on January 31st, 2008 at 6:00 pm

    5 AW
    At one time I would have been embarrassed to say I haven’t seen a single debate, but not anymore.

    I think the debates are ludicrous. There isn’t a single moderator, in the past, that I haven’t wanted to torture with open flames and electrical devices, after the first two questions. I don’t need the aggravation.

    I’d rather watch Teletubbies.

    I’ll get my info on the candidates in written, digital form, thank you very much.

  10. fat albert on January 31st, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    Shannon - Amen and Amen!

  11. american woman on January 31st, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    Oh Shannon, I didn’t watch it, just heard the clip of his answer. I don’t have cable so…… I am free of that kind of aggrivation. I got to see one debate with Duncan Hunter. He was asked one question, so I knew he was toast. If you count the times the MSM has mentioned the name of an anti-illegal contender and the times they have spoken the name of one of those they who are soft on immigration, it’s obvious. When kiddo came home for either Thanksgiving or Christmas and asked me who I was voting for. I said Duncan Hunter. Her reply, ” Who is that?” A lot of that is Duncan’s fault, but he didn’t have enough money to get his name out there, to combat the free press the MSM gives those they prefer. McCain always brings up how much money Romney spends. He has to, to counter the free advertising McCain gets from the MSM.

  12. NAT PIERCE on January 31st, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    During the dust up it was Romney’s opportunity to “take out” McCain, others have praised his more refined approach, which was the style of Thompson, upon reflection had Romney taken McCain to the woodshed it would have appeared geriatric abuse.

  13. texpat on January 31st, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    #9 Shannon

    Shannon is a smart guy. I taught him everything he knows.

  14. Big45Iron on January 31st, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    BigJ, do you get a sense that most folks here just aren’t buying that McCain is the better choice? We know who they are. We’ve made our decisions. Barring something profoundly new coming out, I think most LST folks have REASONED through the process of review that Romney is the least problem amongst two bad choices. Trying to remember what your stand on Huckabee was before.

  15. SC on January 31st, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    “geriatric abuse” would have been appropriate in this case.

  16. SC on January 31st, 2008 at 7:00 pm

    #14 We are being railroaded by “the system”. Does Hawaii have a primary?

  17. Adee on January 31st, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    Just heard today that some folks are calling Sen. McCain “St. John of Arizona”. That kinda fits, as he certainly has an arrogant and cranky streak.

    The “geriatric abuse” comment is a hoot.

  18. texpat on January 31st, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    Does anybody else get the same feeling when looking at John McCain and Howard Dean ? As if any moment they will explode and go spinning off into the atmosphere like some whirlygig firework.

  19. Big45Iron on January 31st, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    The Presidential thing in Hawaii is closed caucases. We actually don’t have our local primary until Sept 20th!!!!

  20. Big45Iron on January 31st, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Texpat #18, and how much trouble does one get into if they say geriatric whirlygig? AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr

  21. texpat on January 31st, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    #14 Big45Iron

    Where does BJ stand on Huck ?

    Mike Huckabee bought BJ the new tricked out Cadillac Escalade he is driving. You know, the one with the spinner wheels.

  22. mty on January 31st, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    As objectionable as I find Romney (there is zero chance he gets my vote in the primary or general election), he at least has the requisite fiscal and monetary understanding to facilitate bluffing his way through the discussion. McCain’s understanding of all things economic would be entertaining if he wasn’t threatening to make them the governing imperatives for at least the next four years.

  23. BigJolly on January 31st, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    I think most LST folks have REASONED

    Sure they have. Sorta like they have REASONED that Cornyn is a liberal.

    Trying to remember what your stand on Huckabee was before.

    Same as it’s been since about the end of November or thereabouts.

  24. BigJolly on January 31st, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    We know who they are.

    Doubtful.

    Read Professor Bainbridge. I’m but lowly trailer park trash.

    http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/punditry/comments/what_romney_should_have_said/

  25. pimlico on January 31st, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    ( I’ve been away from the computer. ) It seems to me that McCain has to be congratulated on his positioning himself with Huckabee as his ‘pick and roll’ guy; and throwing ‘left jabs’ at Romney. I suppose there is something for experience in the ‘ring’. In addition, those of us who are not particularly excited about McCain and who may be willing to let Hillary win; might be in for a surprise. That being that enough Lib/Moderates from both sides may actually vote McCain in. ( considering the other two’s expperience) If that were to happen, He could: 1. change parties on us. 2. give us the ‘finger’ when our issues come to fore. ( because He won’t need us) 3. turn into the a saturated version of Himself which will highlight his personality disorder. ( I heard he was like that as a youngster. So the POW thing is not applicable.) 4. all of the above!

  26. NAT PIERCE on January 31st, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    That, Sir pimlico, is why we need to make every effort to neutralize Governor Hair and secure Texas for Romney.

  27. Silo on January 31st, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    If Romney is the rep candidate I don’t know what I’ll do. I may have to consider going to the dark side. It’s funny, out of Romney, Hillary, and Obama, only one is a Christian, and she has no desire to make this country better.

  28. NAT PIERCE on January 31st, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    You really think she is a Christian, if an apostate can be a Christian she’s a Christian,
    she’s E V I L.

  29. Robert M on January 31st, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    The only religion that HELLary practices is “ME”ism. Everything is about herself. She thinks she is the savior for us all, just ask her.

  30. Silo on January 31st, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    Ok…she grew up in a Christian home, which is still closer than the other 2.

  31. NAT PIERCE on January 31st, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    “ME”ism, she and St. John belong to the same cult.

  32. fat albert on January 31st, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    silo -

    Before you chunk that “Christian” label around, you might want to look at lifestyle and political philosophy. If you look at personal lives, Romney qualifies a lot quicker than Hillary. Do you have reasons for rejecting Romney other than his Mormon faith?

  33. gadboy on January 31st, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    So why can’t a staunch conservative be nominated?

  34. Silo on January 31st, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    32 Nope, no other reason.

  35. pimlico on January 31st, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    Silo, what the heck does ‘Christian’ mean? I think Jesus himself should be the one to decide. Besides, how many Christians have been say, baptized? Are they all Christians? how about some other tenent? why is it that Christians can be anything but LDS. ( I;m sure Mitt HAS been baptized. Remember Nicadimus?)

  36. mty on January 31st, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    #33

    Because ‘conservative’ has devolved into the pit of relativity. Anyone who voted for Reagan or any Republican since believes that they are conservative independent of the traditional meaning.

    Conservatism isn’t about policy. It’s not abortion, gay marriage, the war - it is a philosophical school that views government involvement in any facet of our lives with a jealous eye. Conservatism s adherents believe fervently that government is but a necessary evil; one whose growth must be forever fought, recognizing that no other force exists that so boldly challenges the rights of free men.

    We get so entrenched in our positions on policy that we cede lasting principle for small political victories. Beating the opponent (they are evil, you know) becomes the objective to the detriment of advancing our principles. Before long, beating the opponent is the only principle we have. It even makes many willing to adopt the positions and methodologies that are long held by our opponents.

    And rather than admit that we have chucked our principles for strategic gains, we’ll simply redefine our principles.

    Conservative means whatever you want it to mean. If you’re a McCainiac, then the war (and strengthening the empire and those pesky earmarks) is the defining policy issue that defines conservatism. If you’re a Romney guy, it’s about understanding how the economic world works and ‘family values’. Huckabee is explained by the longing of fundamentalist Christians to have ‘one of our own’ to the exclusion of sound (conservative) economic principles. And he gets high marks for coming across as a genuine, nice guy. You know…. a conservative.

    Ron Paul? Well…. no one will be surprised to hear that I find him to be the candidate to uphold what I see as the real conservative principles. So I’ll just quote John Derbyshire:

    “You already have a genuinely conservative candidate on offer. He’s just not slick enough for you. What, he has positions you don’t agree with? More than the other guys? Actually, I have heard very little complaining about Paul’s positions. What I have mostly heard is (a) He’s funny looking, (b) He can’t win, and (c) He has a lot of icky supporters.

    The answer to (a) is to put aside the New York Times “Style” section for five minutes and think. The answer to (b) is, that if conservatism is going to lose big in 2008 anyway (newsflash: it is), it should at least make a stand, to inspire future generations. The answer to (c) is, get in there and swell the ranks of non-icky Paul supporters - there are plenty of us - to drown out the nutsos.”

  37. Silo on January 31st, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    I was just pointing it out. Whether or not he is a “Christian” makes no difference to me.
    I just don’t want Romney as president, and yes, it’s because he is a Mormon.

  38. Maltboy! on February 1st, 2008 at 10:55 am

    #34 Silo:

    32 Nope, no other reason.

    Silo is the perfect name for people who think like you – completely isolated and full of corn. At least I’ll give you credit for being wide open about your bigotry and hypocrisy. But that’s all I’ll give you. People like you give conservatives a bad name. Please vote for Ron Paul, or better yet, form a cult and leave the country.

  39. KRAUT on February 1st, 2008 at 11:08 am

    The picture of McCain, Arnold and Guiliani scares the heck out of me. It shows what is wrong with our party. They abhor conservatism, they want to be more like the dems. I’ll stand my ground and will not vote for McCain if he’s our nominee.

  40. RickG on February 1st, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    I’m not sure we can stop this runaway McCain train anyway.

    Let’s look at it this way. McCain gets endorsements from sitting governors and senators from sea to shining sea.

    Romney gets the endorsement of Rick Santorum, who couldn’t even keep his own Senate seat.

    I like Santorum and his politics, but I think this shows how the wind is blowing.

  41. NAT PIERCE on March 6th, 2008 at 6:02 pm

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