Heh.
“First a couple of rules in politics,” he said. “One: no whining. And number two: you get them to vote for you and so I want them not to vote for Mike Huckabee and not to vote for John McCain and to vote for me … that’s not voter suppression. That’s known as politics.”
Team Romney after Huckabee wins West Virgina.
“Unfortunately, this is what Senator McCain’s inside Washington ways look like: he cut a backroom deal with the tax-and-spend candidate he thought could best stop Governor Romney’s campaign of conservative change.
Now team Romney is just getting silly.
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Twisted Talk Express.
Tell ‘em, Rick.
Yeahh for you Shannon, hugs.
My girlfriend showed me the article with that first quote…does anybody know what the heck is he saying???
Thanks for the help, Shannon.
Yes, Meglet, Huckabee was whining about Romney buying Hannity and Rush’s endorsements. So now Romney is whining about McCain’s voters going to Huckabee when their guy was out of it.
What goes around…….
Now that it’s been established that McSwine and the Huckster are in cahoots with each other to minimize the conservative voice in the Republican primary, do you see any other option than Gov Romney?
This is stupid. What’s Romney supposed to do, clap his hands and slap Huck on the back ?
Campaigns are intense and all these guys and their staffs are in the heat of battle. I don’t pay much attention to the rhetorical gaffes and hyperbole from the campaigns. It is just part of the game. We have a very long and hard row to hoe til November if we are going to parse every silly little comment these guys make.
BJ
The “stupid” epithet was not directed at you, but at Ramesh, Freddosso, all the guys at Politico, CNN, CBS ad infinitum………
Watching CNN’s coverage, which I did for about 15 minutes this afternoon, could make one sick. First, they reverently discussed the “historic” Democratic race - as if neither a woman nor a black had previously run for the office. They then wanted to talk about “conservative maverick” John McCain.
CNN cracks me up.
OK, so for weeks, McCain and the Huckster have been telling us that they are not in cahoots trying to eliminate Romney. Then today, the first ballets cast in West Virginia show Romney with a clear lead with 41% of the vote but since the rules in WV were that you have to have 50% to take the 18 delegates, a second ballot is necessary. Then, after a call from the McCainiac himself, McCain reps start telling delegates to throw their vote to Huckabee in order to prevent Romney from picking up an extra 9%. Even so, Huckabee won with 51.5% against Romney’s 48%.
A WV delegate called Sean Hannity and said that after they returned from lunch break, the McCain reps were working to move delegates votes to Huckabee and that she said that one McCain rep told a Ron Paul supporter “thanks for the backing” meaning that the Paul supporting delegate threw his vote to Huckabee. The caller was in tears.
And you are fine with that? You are fine with McCain/Huckster tag teaming against Romney? Well this Texan is not fine with that. This is back room, shades drawn and lights turned down low politics that reminds me of how McCain and Kennedy tried to shove the Shamnesty Bill down our throats.
But I guess it leaves no doubt that Huckbee/McCain have cut a deal. Huckabee for VP?
The right thing to do was allow the delegates to recast their votes without tag teaming. Huckabee knows that he cannot take the nomination, so he is going to make sure McCain does. Look for Huckabee to come out for McCain, loudly and clearly, when he does drop out. If he had one honest bone in his body, he would do what Thompson has done and not support any other candidate. But he is not honest, this Elmer Gantry of the GOP, and McCain is not honest, this straight talker with his DELETED BY MODERATOR Express.
No, I don’t like this kind of politics. It makes me want to take a shower.
The only reason the “conservative maverick” isn’t running as a Democrat is because he can’t push past Obama of Hillary.
Thats: push past Obama OR Hillary.
#10: Apparently there is no election law violation going on here; how sad!
Retire05 gets the “Gitzit” award. McCain shows his backroom dealing, yet BigLibby still supports Huckabee when it is now definitively proven that a vote for Huckabee is a vote for McCain.
As much as I dislike the tactic, it isn’t cheating. Unfortunately, it may hand the reigns of the executive branch over to the prospective candidate least prepared to handle the responsibility.
Sure, McCain would make a great God of War, but what about handling the economy? I know, I know, he’d let Jack Kemp do all the financial heavy lifting…. not the worst idea I’ve heard, but I simply don’t believe that he won’t superimpose his own judgment at times, as he has in so many other areas where he is no expert.
I don’t hate McCain, and frankly don’t prefer Romney to him by much. If it weren’t for the fiscal crisis bearing down on us, I’d be fully ambivalent as to which war-mongering supporter of oligarchy made the final cut. I won’t be voting for the party nominee in any event. I’m done arguing over who gets to plan the Titanic’s seating arrangements.
If you read only one more thing today, make it this. If you have any doubts about the dire nature of the financial crisis in which we are mired, this will illustrate that this isn’t a regional phenomenon affecting just some economic sectors or a short term event that will self-correct. This thing is systemic, and it is unparalleled in our history. Our banking system is insolvent.
Ole honest, Keating 5, gang of 14, sleeps with ted Kennedy MCShame, would never cut a deal with Huck-A-Bushnandez clone.
They are way to clean to do that.
LOL.
And this is wrong……….how?
Let me rephrase Texpat’s # 7.
retiree05,
I was so loving Hannity today. It was so, so sweet. To hear him pushing conspiracy theories after how he has slandered and distorted Huckabee’s record. Man, I gotta tell you, talk radio doesn’t get any better than that.
mty,
Not only Jack Kemp, but Phil Gramm as well.
Neither do I. But there has to be a better way.
Sorry to hear you won’t be voting for the party nominee. For a guy that says he votes on economics, that’s sad. Both Dems will rescind the Bush tax cuts. Both Repubs will keep them. That’s a $4 trillion swing right off the top. Not good dude.
Although I think we are in a world of hurt on the economy short term, I think we’ll be fine long term. Yes, cheap money does have inherent problems. But our total economy will overcome that, IF we give it a chance.
And starting with a $4 trillion swing isn’t the way to approach it, mty. IMO.
BigJolly, just what record is it that Hannity has distorted? Please, inquiring minds want to know.
Now, let me ask you this; when was the last time you were in northwest Arkansas, say maybe, Bentonville, Rogers, Springdale? Maybe when the Reconquistas, who are trying to take back Texas, they can include northwest Arkansas. After all, Spanish is about all you will hear there, anyway.
And it was all those evil big poultry plants that were bringing them in to displace American workers. You know, like Tyson Foods, who will go to court next month because they are being sued by American workers (Arkansans) they fired to hire illegal immigrants who were willing to work for much less money. Tyson Foods who currently has two (maybe three) top executives serving time for recruiting illegals, not here, but in Mexico and helping them get to the U.S. Yeah, the same Tyson Foods that OpenSecrets.org reports that Huckabee has taken campaign donations from for his presidential campaign.
Or maybe you would be talking about the Huckabee tax cuts, all 29 of them. Funny thing about those cuts, they were only half of the tax increases in Arkansas. If he is such a tax cutter, why does Arkansas still have a state income tax?
Sad that you don’t have a problem with two guys ganging up on one. I don’t think you would have the same feelings if you were being mugged. And that is what McCain is doing to this nation. Mugging it.
Now, please, don’t provide me with the Elmer Gantry’s talking points. Tell me exactly what Hannity said that was wrong about a man who helped destroy the Republican party in Arkansas.
Retiree,
I’m not going to waste time on that, Huck is out of the race and that’s just the way it is. Compare the rate of growth of MA’s gov’t to AR’s gov’t in the same time frame. But that is water under the bridge.
It was SWEET to hear Hannity today.
BTW, if you want to say that you think Romney is to the right of McCain, fine, that is an argument that you can make. You can’t support it with Romney’s record but you can make it based upon his flips. No problem with that. Just don’t put a steaming pile on a plate and tell me it is beef stew.
Because my nose still works.
Dang, I’m getting slow. Almost missed this.
Tell me again which party won the governor’s seat in MA when Romney bowed out? And how many times did the good governor campaign for his want to be successor?
BigJolly, I was a Thompson supporter. Now I am left with trying to chose who I think will do the best job with at least trying to stick with conservative values. Arkansas’s growth? Hell, most of it’s growth comes from neighboring Missouri and Texas with retirees trying to get away from high property taxes. They are not affected by a state income tax.
The Huckster tries to take credit for improving Arkansas schools. How hard is it to bring it up from the worst in the nation under Clinton? Now Louisiana can hold that claim. Are you telling me that the Huckster should be proud that he has done better than Kathleen Blanco?
As as you tell me that your nose still works while you ignore that Huckster has taken campaign contributions from a company that displaces American workers, I have to wonder if it is only your nose that works and your brain has become totally disfunctional.
Now, delete that.
You’ve got to be kidding me, retire05. Wanna talk about layoffs of American workers? Do you even know how Mitt made his money? Not that I think anything is wrong with that, btw. It is perfectly legal but don’t be all self righteous about it.
Why shouldn’t he take credit for improving the schools, improving the roads, improving the economy, etc.? He was governor. Lord knows you guys defame him enough for a penny sales tax increase and fee increases. BTW, ever thought about picking on Romney for fee increases? Or the massive MANDATED health care plan that is in the RED and will require even MORE taxpayer subsidies?
Of course not. Because Huck is Elmer Gantry and McCain is Benedict Arnold.
Right.
Huckabee gets the evangelical vote, evangelicals the moral people, however in W. Virginia, they participate in an underhanded deal to skew (cheat) the vote for McCain, one must conclude that evangelicals have denied their purpose and have no more morals than John McCain. This is the same kind of religious fealty as another group of zealots we are dealing with.
Sure Nat, of course it is “underhanded”. Your guy lost. Obviously it is “wrong”!
Man, you guys are a trip.
Hey, if there is “cheating” file charges, man! Go for it.
#25 is not there it is a reflection of your monitor, not words or sentences or what it appears to be disregard it
It’s not cheating…. it’s politics as usual. It’s the devil ( John McCain) whispering in Huckabee’s ear ( the preacher). Huck is human and the baptist preacher just lost.
Huck needs to do the right thing and step aside. It is what is what is best for the GOP. Make it a 2 man race. Edwards was wise in dropping out of the Democratic race because he knew he had no shot at the nomination.
Huck needs to do the same. Let the repub voters decide between the more conservative Romney and the more moderate McCain.
Nah, there’s no fix in.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/02/huckabee_tells_r.html
Let’s face it, Ann Coulter is correct in her analysis. Hillary is to the right of McCain (and I’m beginning to wonder if she might be more honest as well), and if that’s all the conservatives have left to work with, it’s a real shame what this country has come to, or at least the Republican Party. That’s what happens with the “big tent” theory - you wind up with a room full of opportunists who have no intention of carrying out the wishes of their subjects.
LOL (apparently, I’m going to be doing that a lot tonight).
houstondem is offering advice to the Repubs in the name of honor.
Can’t make this stuff up.
My dear, Huck is a politician. A very, very good politician. Lose? You’re kidding, right?
Huck is the only hope left for a brokered convention. If he continues to pick up delegates, no one will win. Blocks McCain and Romney, neither of which are conservatives, talk radio or not.
Go back to your earlier thoughts about Romney - they were correct.
Politics as usual. All the more reason for strict term limits for everyone in congress. Apparently it’s McCain’s ‘turn’ cause he paid his dues long enough. I wish there was a reboot button on Washington.
Rastus,
Your hatred for McCain has clearly affected your ability to reason.
So, the man who preaches on Sunday to the congregation is the politician Monday through Saturday,( except he is politicing as he preaches) He sold his soul. That’s what I mean by he lost. I feel badly for those who have looked to him as a congregation leader.
raiderdav,
Don’t give up! McCain does not have the nomination yet. Close but no cigar. Keep fighting.
#36 - I don’t think I hate anyone. I do not, however, have much respect for someone who plays games to win rather than trying to win on the merits of their argument/behavior. Lack of respect does not translate into hate, or at lease I don’t think it does. I’ve not respected McCain for a long time, and I doubt that he will improve much in my eyes based on his current behavior. My ability to reason has never been worth a damn, so maybe if I did hate someone and that hate did affect my ability to reason, it would be an improvement. Anyway, the game’s about up for me anyway, so hopefully I won’t be around when we finally cease to exist as an independent, freedom loving nation.
Sorry, McCain had his due a long time ago–he just didn’t notice. Another slimey deal in a long line of dealing with slime–you become what you are on the inside.
AW: I’m getting closer and closer!
Commenting on the quote Shannon posted in #1
I used to respect Santorum as one of the staunchest conservatives in the Senate. Until he supported Arlen Specter over a true conservative, Pat Toomey in 2004. That was too much of a compromise for my liking.
LOL. Mine either.
Man, so many depressing thoughts.
This nation isn’t going anywhere. We are a good people, as a whole. Yes, there are problems but they have far more to do with the Folsom St. Fair than the border.
Hang in there, we’ll be fine.
#40 hamous,
That’s pretty funny. I did too. Until Toomey sold his soul in this election cycle.
Man, politics is strange stuff.
Oh, and Bush had a hand in that too. What did he get in return from Specter? Stabbed in the back on judicial nominations.
I have to disagree about the idea this is some kind of new, nefarious tactic just dreamed up by Huck and McCain. Folks, this is American politics and it is the way the game is played. Romney has certainly already anticipated this possibility and has his own strategies. This is a democracy we live in and there is plenty of room for all kinds of allowable feints and dodges. Nobody ever promised it would be pretty.
I am no McCain or Huckabee fan, but what they did is permissible and follows a long tradition in American electoral politics. If Mitt had the same opportunity, he would and should take it. Read your history, boys and girls, this ain’t nothin’ new.
These kind of statements make me laugh. Your guy loses, so they are bad. Your guy gets support (Rush, Coulter, Laura, Levin, Hannity, et. al.) and that isn’t a bad deal for the other guy, they are just right!
Okay.
#42 - CfG? LOL.
Hey, #44, that’s what I said! No fair!
#46
Wow. We got a little hail action going on here in the barrio!
Hail? Uh-oh, I’ll probably lose power in the trailer park. Bummer.
Sorry, Jolly, getting my fill of this guy–really–today just shows he’s no better than any of the other guys, the only problem is he’s rubbed too many shoulders to achieve his moderate goals–I’m a conservative, closed borders and strict constuctive judges guy–yeah, he can do all of that–but it ain’t what he wants to do.
The world won’t end tonite, but maybe tomorrow–think good thoughts, all.
nitey-nite™
I’ve no idea what you mean by that comment Kent.
hambone
The whole 2003-2004 scenario that went down in Pennsylvania was very ugly and the RNC, particularly the Senate re-election committee, put Rick Santorum in an impossible position. I am sure it gnaws at his guts to this day. In short, I have forgiven Rick.
Santorum knew he would be fighting a death match with Bob Casey, Jr. in 2006 and he needed desperately the financial and Party support to survive that election. The RNC and WH chose to support Specter in 2004 because they were afraid if he won without their support, as chairman of the Judiciary Committee, he would destroy any chance for conservative nominations. They made their deal with the devil and put enomous pressure on Santorum to join the bandwagon. Unfortunately, we got the worst of both worlds, Casey and Specter. That was a Karl Rove devised strategy so you can hurl your worst invectives at him.
Heh, Karl Rove as an analyst tonight was weak. Real weak.
Very hard rain and gusty winds but no hail over Richmond for about 30 minutes starting about 7:45. The best hard rain forecaster–dish satellite signal starts breaking up and that means about 4-5 minutes before the deluge arrives. About .75″ in the gauge. Temp dropped to 59 so far with light rain. Come morning will see how many branches are down.
#54 - All true, but had he supported Toomey he may not have held his Senate seat but at least he’d have the peace of mind to know he supported a conservative. Now he has neither.
#57 hamous
Those damnable consequences, without which we would not be men, but souless creatures without shame or joy.
—texpat
Destiny has two ways of crushing us — by refusing our wishes and by fulfilling them.
—Henri Frederic Amiel
#58 texpat
Those damn voters, eschewing the advice
of the loud mouthed pundits,
doing as they please at the polls.
—bigjolly
You can pick your friends
and you can pick your nose
but you can’t wipe your friends
on the back of the couch
– Hamous
Come on BigJolly, be fair. At the time that the comments were made, it looked very much like Huck and McCain were in Kahoots. ( Not to mention the blasts at Romney from Huck with NO discernable shots at McCain. )Obviously Huck is doing well this evening and if he were to build at this point, he might beat McCain. That’s not to say that he doesn’t have a back room deal with McCain. I suppose this is where they got the idea for ‘Survivor’. Now we’re voting them off the island.
Hey, look what I started. There is nothing like inspiration to get men to….
pimlico,
I didn’t like it when Huck whined about it and I don’t like it when Mitt whines.
But then, I’m not the one that said there is no whining in politics.
Talk to your guy. What goes around….
BigJolly, I didn’t actually hear MITT whining. His son was on Hannity and said that his Dad, Mitt, was , in effect, moving on from West Virginia; that that was politics!? (paraphrasing) So let’s be accurate, Please.
89% reporting in Georgia and Huck and Mitt are neck and neck. About 15,000 votes apart.
Paul broke 5% in one state so far.
pimlico,
Yes, let’s be accurate. That’s a Team Romney email I quoted up there.
Mitt is no longer head of Team Romney?
Obviously you have never participated in an orgy of drunken debauchery with a bunch of bored truckers.
Texpat,
I’m not seeing that. I’ve got 91% reported and Huck up over McCain by about 15k votes.
Looks like McCain just overtook Huck in Missouri.
Tonight I just noticed that the Chairman of the Democratic National Committee has been invisible pretty much during this whole primary. I can’t remember the last time I saw him on TV.
Squawk
Tha for the EXTREMELY disturbing mental picture of what goes on in Truck Stop parkiing lots
Keep on Trucking has different connotations now
#68 BJ
You are right. I’m getting tired, need to stop typing; the synapses are no longer firing in order - long day.
But I am suprised that it is split almost 3 ways there in Georgia. Very interesting. And I thought Paul would do better than he did there. Georgia is a fascinating state, politically and demographically speaking.
Missouri looks just like Georgia - split almost 3 ways. Go figure.
BJ says that hatred has rattled my brain and affected my reasoning. My only real retort is to suggest that you line up the major issues that you, as a conservative care about, and compare the positions taken (note: taken, not promised) by the evil one versus Sen McCain. Then decide where the conservative vote should go based on issues - not feelings. I only suggest that you take a look around and see what happens. You might be surprised.
Man I missed Hannity today Big J!!
You know in all my wavering back and forth between Huck and Romney, one of the big pushes was going to be what my friends from Arkansas said about Huck. I mean that says a lot to me, because I know if it were Rick Perry running I’d be out telling all my friends DON’T VOTE FOR HIM. And do you know they actually like him?? They are voting for him, in fact actively campaigning for him. It’s amazing everyone’s been hawking his record on taxes and yet conservative Republicans in Arkansas still would have him be their president. Just very interesting to me…
*pendulum swings back towards Huck’s direction*
Brokered Convention despite his lead McCains out of Cash again and has to compete uno on uno which favors Romney greatly
Also the chorus against McCain has just begun.
Huckabee is in it for a VP or for speaking engagements like Rudy was
Romney wants it, not backing down, and is forcing McCain to go the next round
As Shakey would say…
Interesting….
BJ, thanks to you and those of your mindset, we will have John McCain to vote for (or against) this Fall. Are you happy now that the last conservative has been eliminated? I know you’re bitter about the thrashing you’ve taken over your flip-flop from Romney to the Huckster, but you really need to get some perspective man. You are gloating about Romney’s loss while Rome burns around you.