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39 Responses to “Clemens accuser gives used needles to Feds”
  1. jphilb on February 6th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    What is this guy’s motivation to do this to Roger?

  2. Zippy_Slug on February 6th, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    bleh.. at least I’m glad congress is screwing around with baseball rather than screwing around with taking more of our money and rights away..

    Let’s hope this keeps them busy until 2012..

    /could care less about baseball.. how boring..

  3. squawkbox on February 6th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    gave vials with traces of steroids and human growth hormone, as well as blood-stained syringes and gauze pads…..

    Holy crap he kept and stored “biohazards”.

    /Runs off with hair on fire.

  4. Adee on February 6th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    Sure hope they don’t use the HPD or DPS crime labs…

  5. FourAlarm on February 6th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Speaking of bio-hazards…. Where’s that Blue Dress hanging right now? Smithsonian?

  6. Big45Iron on February 6th, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    You think just MAYBE he might have kept these things for an insurance policy or blackmail purposes? If Clements did this, as you say, he’s toast. I’d like to think if he is toast that it would lead others to stay away from these things. But more than likely it would just mean the abusers would ensure they would keep the evidence to themselves for disposal.

  7. american woman on February 6th, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    I am taking a wait and see attitude. I’m amazed the guy would keep that stuff. He is no good.

  8. Nechasin on February 6th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    It seems very fishy to me. He probably did inject Clemens with something sometime. So he would have the needles with Clemens blood. It seems it would be fairly easy to manufacture the rest of the evidence. I wouldn’t trust whatever results come of this.

  9. Sherri on February 6th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    I know nothing about syringes, so I ask: Is it possible to take a needle from a legitimate (vitamin B12 for example) shot and put it on a syringe that contained HGH?

  10. DanielJames on February 6th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    I am outraged! Outraged that the gov is involved.
    Its NOTFB!

    Sorry Bigs as long as we continue to pay for and watch huge men do huge things this will never stop.

    How many here watched the super bowl?

  11. DanielJames on February 6th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    #9

    Yes! The tip screws on and off.

  12. american woman on February 6th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    #9,#10, if they can be interchanged, his evidence isn’t worth anything. What a jerk.

  13. jimb on February 6th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    Sorry Bigs as long as we continue to pay for and watch huge men do huge things this will never stop.

    How many here watched the super bowl?

    You know, watching a sporting event doesn’t make one bad, or lazy, or sheep, or not caring about the nation’s future. It’s all about keeping things in balance and perspective.

    What good is freedom if you aren’t free to sit down and (insert your pastime here) every now and then??

    That said, I do think the congressional hearings into this baseball stuff is a horrendous waste of time.

  14. trl3 on February 6th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    This smells big time.

    1. Why would anyone keep evidence that he committed a crime?

    2. He claims to have injected others. Did he keep their needles and empty vials of human growth hormone also?

    3. If he did keep them then he has been and still is withholding evidence in an active criminal investigation, another crime.

    4. If he only keep the ones he claims to have used on Roger, why Roger and no one else?

  15. bigmck on February 6th, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    #10 DJ — The government is involved because steroids are against the law. Years ago, Congress gave baseball an anti-trust exemption and thus makes everything they do, the governments business.

  16. DanielJames on February 6th, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    aw

    The evidence even with Rogers DNA on it is worthless.

    bigmack

    Right. I should have remebered that from my Constitution class. bwahahahaha

    Its outrageous!

    jimb

    Perhaps but you are still supporting their actions. You are free to do that. I personally dont care what they take. Its their business.

    I wanna know when they are gonna prosecute those that fail their tests? They clearly were in possession of a controlled substance….a felony.

    Fry e’m! ;)

  17. RickG on February 6th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    I wondedred what would happen next when Clemens testified - under oath - yesterday. He denied everything. If this material has DNA, Clemens could actually be facing jail time. I find it hard to believe that he continues to vehemently deny these claims unless his denials were true, given the fact that lying to Congress under oath is not a small deal.

    But then, politicians and celebrities have amazed me countless times with their arrogance. They apparently often reach a point where they believe they are untouchable and can lie with impunity.

    If he’s lying, I hope they throw the book at him - not because he used steroids, but because he will have proved himself to be a damned liar and felon.

  18. DanielJames on February 6th, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    Rick

    What? Clements admitted he was injected. The evidence is worthless and you know it.

  19. trl3 on February 6th, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    RickG

    If Clements is lying, then I really don’t care what they do to him. If he is telling the truth then the accuser and the author of the Mitchell report have some serious explaining to do.

  20. mrygill2 on February 6th, 2008 at 6:02 pm

    If a needle has both Clements DNA and steroids, that doesn’t prove that the needle was used to inject him with the steroids. It just proves the needle was used on BOTH steroids and Clements; not necessarily at the same time.

    It may be a setup.

  21. FourAlarm on February 6th, 2008 at 6:28 pm

    Haven’t we all put on funny costumes to roll play and your loved one assures you that the photos are just for their own gratification? The same one who said they’d love you forever but is now gone with the proverbial wind and every day you fear going online to discover the pics on The Drudge Report? (Surely I can’t be the ONLY one!)

    If you’ve arrived at a certain measure of notoriety you should expect everyone is out to get you because most likely they are, they can, or they will. Behave accordingly. Only need to look at the lives of the Hollywood types to see how inseparable people are one day and the next they’re at each others throats.

    Floyd Landis. Michael Vick. Larry Craig. Marion Jones. Peewee Herman. Roger Clemens… What were you thinking?

  22. jimb on February 6th, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    Perhaps but you are still supporting their actions.

    Actually, I believe that abusers of performance enhancing drugs should be kicked out of pro sports and stripped of any titles, recognition, etc. that they have, including hall-of-fame alumni status.

    I don’t think that being a fan of a given sport translates into tacit approval of substance abuse.

  23. RickG on February 6th, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    21. FA

    Haven’t we all put on funny costumes to roll play and your loved one assures you that the photos are just for their own gratification?

    No, but do you have any pix you might want to share?

  24. Adee on February 6th, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    #20 Mrygill2. Agree with your post.

  25. BSue on February 6th, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    #20 & #24 Mrygill2 and Adee
    Amen to that! As a former nurse and current paramedic, we were cautioned about even using the same needle to inject the person that was used to withdraw the medication from a vial - you have dulled the needle by inserting it through the rubber stopper… The presence of DNA inside the vial would have HAD to be from crosscontamination because if the trainer was worth his salt (well, we wouldn’t be having this conversation would we???) he would certainly NOT have been using a needle that already had DNA on it to draw up a medication because that would mean the needle was contaminated!

  26. american woman on February 6th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    Everything bad that one hears about these baseball players comes from one man. One man in all of baseball. I am waiting.

  27. hamous on February 6th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    I agree with Daniel on this one (except for the part where steroids don’t cause any harm). The federal government has no business wasting our tax dollars on this witch hunt. Clemens probably did do steroids. So what? Its a game. If someone broke the law let real LEO’s do their job. Now we got Arlen Specter “investigating” play stealing in the NFL??? Don’t these bozos have more important things to investigate or legislate?

  28. BSue on February 6th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    #27 Hammie
    You mean like…. border security… protecting our Nation from terrorism… real stuff like that??? Nah - surely you’re kidding - you don’t really expect Arlen to do that kinda junk do you???

  29. jimb on February 6th, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    #27 - I’m with DJ (and you), too, on this one. There are already laws against abuse of steroids. We don’t need congressional investigations and new laws, we need them to actually do their jobs…

  30. Bannable Lecturer on February 6th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    If Clemens lied to congress - whooooooooa
    Going to give him the Pete Rose Treatment

  31. Bannable Lecturer on February 6th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Hamous

    Congress has a constitutional duty to investigate

    However, Democrats do it for publicity, Republicans do it to really find out stuff

  32. jimb on February 6th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Congress has a constitutional duty to investigate

    Congress has a duty to investigate what? Whether or not existing laws were broken? That’s what local law enforcement and perhaps the FBI does. Congress is showboating and wasting time, on both sides of the aisle.

  33. hamous on February 6th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    Some make the case that since Congress granted baseball an exemption to anti-trust laws back in the ’20s that gives them the right to investigate potential wrongdoings. That argument fell flat when they started poking their noses in the NFL.

  34. jimb on February 6th, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    #33 - I would disagree with that, and as you say, Congress is never satisfied with staying within their limits.

  35. Matt Bramanti on February 6th, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    #33 : Spot on. Also, it’s absurd to make that argument:

    “Congress exempted MLB from regulation. Thus, Congress needs to regulate MLB.”

  36. Bannable Lecturer on February 7th, 2008 at 3:20 am

    Matt

    Congress has regulatory authority over all interstate business

    Thhat constitution thing again

  37. w_r_ranch on February 7th, 2008 at 7:10 am

    [Quote]Is it possible to take a needle from a legitimate (vitamin B12 for example) shot and put it on a syringe that contained HGH?[/Quote]

    I was thinking the same exact thing when I heard this on my drive in. My second thought was this guy is an absolute moron if he actually “saved” this type of evidence (like the blue dress). Of course, he is a moron anyway because this “evidence” doesn’t prove anything. Even congressmen are bright enough to ask themselves “What’s in in for him?” and see a blackmail scheme.

  38. hamous on February 7th, 2008 at 7:56 am

    #36 You truly are a big government liberal. Only a liberal would find congressional authority to investigate steroid use in baseball in the penumbra of the interstate commerce clause.

  39. hamous on February 7th, 2008 at 7:59 am

    McCain sees things Bannable’s way. Go Romney!

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