In saner times, a little boy who wanted to wear a dress to school would be corrected by his parents, or possibly given psychological treatment.
Now, the parents are demanding that society warp itself around their confused tyke, and the school is all too willing:
The issue of being transgender usually pops up with students in high school. However, a 3rd grade boy wants to dress as a girl and wants teachers and students to address him with a girl’s name.
“As a public school system, our calling is to educate all kids no matter where they come from, what their background is, beliefs, values, it doesn’t matter,” said Whei Wong, Douglas County Schools spokesperson.
Wong says teachers are planning to address the student by name instead of using he or she. The child will not use the regular boys or girls bathroom. Instead, two unisex bathrooms in the building will be made available. The school is handing out packets to parents who have questions. The packets contain information about people who are transgender.
Wong says mental health professionals will be available if students, staff, or parents have any concerns at all.
Got that? Public school policy is being shaped by a disturbed 9-near-old cross-dresser. If you have a problem with that, the doctor will see you now.
UPDATE: This case reminds me of the case of David Reimer. That one didn’t turn out so well.
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Heh, beat me to it. Man, what in the heck is going on in this world?
Daddy, why is little Johnny wearing a training bra?
Um, um, go ask your mother.
Nutcases and the system is encouraging it ?
lets say 1500 students are re-moved from this public school and home or private schooled instead - no students and they get no tax dollars to educate said 1500 students. As a parent I would start a very loud - very vocal movement to remove our “normal, and decent” student from this school
BJ: I’m with you! This world is getting wackier every day! Exercising or having a little common sense is becoming more and more a rarity in society. The PC crowd is running amuck.
I miss the old days when kids who were different were pushed down stairs and beaten up during recess. Yeah, those were the days… And that was just for having a goofy haircut or pants that were too short above the shoes.
In my grade school, in 1972, a boy who wanted to wear a dress would have had the ever living crap kicked out of him.
I’m not saying that’s good, but, it sure was a reality back then.
Maybe this will encourage more boys to come out as transgender and start wearing dresses to school? I wonder.
And still you see students kicked out of class for refusing to cut their hair!! GO FREAKIN’ FIGURE!
That poor kid - his parents are making this choice for him with life-long consequences. This is so screwed up.
Just another example in a long list that reinforces my contention that the private school tuition I have paid for the last dozen years is simply another government tax - a public education “failure tax” that I must pay to avoid this kind of crap.
Wong isn’t the only one…..The entire world is going nuts! theirhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/07/witaly107.xml
I don’t know what’s worse about that link malcolm - the relationship or this fact:
We are living in a crazy time…
Solution: send the heshe to England and let the Mullah’s sort it out…
We are headed towards insanity, people…faster than we think…
Oh, I dunno… I think the world has always been insane. It’s just more out in the open now…
Line up single file for meds at the end of the hall please…
More proof of the insanity…
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23436203-details/Church+backlash+as+Archbishop+of+Canterbury+calls+for+Sharia+law+in+Britain/article.do
Has anyone considered that his is (a) one of those wacky phases that kids go through, or (b) that his parents are flaming liberals and he got this idea of pushing the envelope from them, or (c) that his parents actually put this thought into his head and encouraged him to make waves?
Don’t feed the beast. It bites your hand.
I suspect it started out as (a), and is now firmly in the (c) stage.
Well, has anyone noticed the trend of grown men wearing SKIRTS? Well, they are disguised as KILTS, but I still say they are skirts.
It is odd to be at an outdoor festival and seeing men traipsing around in these things!
I even went to a birthday party last year and the honoree (A MALE) was wearing a kilt-like skirt. And he is a TEACHER!!! Is that strange or what?
How are they going to protect this kid on the playground?? And will the little girls play with him and “his” dolls??
Well, it’s nice to see that the “PC” police are out doing their jobs screwing up our supposed normal lives.
So far, I’ve managed to avoid the trademarking of phrases that runs so rampant on LST. But I think I will indulge in TMing the “Don’t feed the beast. It bites your hand.” I think it will just fit so many circumstances, especially in light of the looming elections.
Come on, Y’all.
So the kid has a “thing” for tafetta. And he/she wants to be called Pat instead of Pat.
So what?
#17 navymom: I heard that they don’t wear undies. Could you verify that information for me?
ST, apparently the Kilt fans “go commando” even (or especially?) when they are seated next to The Queen
http://www.yahoo.com/s/803625
Here is an example of a good mom - he missbehaved in school and she made him hold a sign on the corner across from the school appoligizing to his teacher while suspended
ST are you thinking what I’m thinking? Next girl’s night out will be held at a bar where real men wear KILTS!
#23 Taking a nap
WAY TO GO MOM! Can you imagine the changes in our society if the youngsters learn that there are consequences (and limits) to their actions?
Revolution!
#21 Next time I see a guy in one of those I will ask. Or maybe do the old mirror on the sneaker trick the boys used to do back in my school days. Heh!
15: tedtam: answer is (C)–progressive parents put in its head.
17,21,24: Aye, Lassies, real men whar Kilts, if th’picture ahn my website was full length, ye’d knew thet we do!
There’s en eld Scottish Ballad (but I don’t know where to find it–so I’ll write it out:
T’was a handsoome fellew, that had spent quite some time in the tavern drinkin’ ale; eventually his bledder asked fer relief and he staggered oootside and arooond the carner to the knewn spot; he did as he needed, but en th’ way back en, he was a mite dizze, so he set doown ender th’ tree by th’lane and fell asleep.
Two lasses were coming from towne and saw the strappin’ fellew, and one sed t’th’otha, “Do ye think it’s troo whet they say aboot whet a man whars beneath his kilt?”
The ether blushed and motioned that they shed take a’look and they did.
The boldest lass looked at the ether and sed, “We shed leave him a monentew for hi’bountiful peckeg.”
The other took her blue ribbon from her hare and tied it aroond what the man did have beloo his kilt, then smoothed th’kilt acroos his lap and they giggled as they left him sleepin’.
After anether while, the fellew awoke and had to make his water agin’; so he more steadily now med ‘is way t’th’acustoomed place.
He hitched hi’kilt oot of th’way and spide th’ blue ribbont tied there and exclaimed, “I dint knew whar ye been lad; but, wharever it t’was, ye took first place!”
Be careful, or they’ll accuse you of “transphobia.”
Just more PC nuttiness.
I don’t know the whole story, I admit, but it seems like this poor kid will actually grow up thinking he’s truly a woman trapped in a man’s body because of that which his parents stuck into his head.
Without exception, everyone I’ve known well that is gay or “transgendered” either admits that they chose this lifestyle openly (meaning that they weren’t “born that way” or they had some strange/traumatic/bad experience that invariably comes up when discussing their sexual preference.
Don’t know the stats now, but 10 years ago 1 in 3 of all incarcerated adults (and those were only the ones willing to admit it) were sexually abused as children.
I bet this 9 year old has never been disciplined. He has never had guidance, and has parents who don’t believe in spanking. Not that I think you can spank odd behavior out of a child, but kids crave rules, guidance and parents who draw the line. This is so wild. American tax dollars at work.
#30 - think that’s a real statistic? I would imagine that plenty of convicts that want to make excuses for themselves…
It may be this kids “right” to wear a dress - but is MY RIGHT and every teacher and kid in that schools “RIGHT” to laugh at him!!!!
We got rights too and we are NOT PC
Liz,
That’s a great point. Travis Mullis, the guy that stomped in the head of his son last week, apparently was sexually abused as an orphan.
31 aw
Exactly what I thought when I saw this. Who’s in charge in that household?? I have a belt and it’s secondary purpose is keeping my pants up.
My boy plays with the little girls down the street. They play Polly Pockets and he brings his GI Joes.
It usually goes like this:
Polly and her friends are captured by COBRA. Joe and the gang come in and slaughter them and save Polly and Strawberry Shortcake with grenade launchers.
21 st
If they don’t wear undies, do they carry a butt doily? Otherwise it might leave a mark on your furniture…..
36: Fast–it a wee bit emabrrrassing when ye go to stand up and yer butt is stuck to the varnish–can bit wee bit chilly as well.
Well, I know TransYouth Family Advocates (TYFA) is involved. TYFA doesn’t encourage children to be transgender at all, nor do they encourage the parents to transition a child from male to female or female to male — TYFA encourages parents to get therapists involved, and make informed decisions about their children.
If TYFA is involved, the parents are invoved. Usually parents fight against their children being transgender — no parent dreams of having a transgender child.
Not trying to offend, but I’m guessing your opinion is a gut level opinion more than an informed opinion. I would highly recommend you contact TYFA if you sincerely believe that the parents of this transgender child made this decision in a vacuum.
As for scripture, Matthew 19:12 and Isaiah 56:4-8 address the issue of eunuchs — the gender variant people of the Bible. There’s are Bible commentaries on trasgender people too — such as here and here.
And therein lies the problem. Trannys encouraging therapy. Give me a break. This is a third grader.
Eunuchs being compared to trannys. Autumn, you need to review not only those passages, which do not support your position, but why people were eunuchs in the first place. Good grief. Where in the heck did common sense go?
#38 - I suspect that you misunderstand Scripture if you believe that a) eunuchs in the Bible are gay/”transgendered” men and b) if either of those scriptural references refer to such.
Context and history are important.
With the Baby and the Bathwater–out the window–welcome to the United States of San Francisco! And people are going to STB and Suicide Vote?! Geez!
38,39&40: I don’t believe eunichs are born as eunichs–they are made eunichs.
What is happening to our world? We never had these problems surface when growing up (now 62 years old) or at least they were never discussed or flaunted. This is insane. Stop the world - I want to get off and go back to normalcy the way God intended for all his children.
BigJ great response! I thought a eunich was a castrated man……. have I been wrong all these years? Vlou….. We live in bizarre times, with culture pounding our kids daily. Life was better with no tv.
Not saying being sexually abused is an excuse any more than being on drugs is an excuse for criminal behavior. Just stating a fact. Don’t like it? Then don’t do drugs, be a role model for your kids that does drugs and don’t sexually abuse your kids…
Thanks for raining on my parade and the next girls night out plan.
The most funny Candid Camera episode (the newer version) was when a guy in a kilt had to go up on a ladder and asked women to hold the ladder for him. Apparently he wasn’t wearing anything. Most people looked away, but these 2 black women kept peaking.
The other one was where they labeled the bathroom’s Virgins or All others./dang I miss that show
Liz, I know you have studied this topic. Is child abuse more prolific now than in the 50’s and if so why?
ST I saw that candid camera thing, and it was a hoot.
45 - I was more curious if maybe there were some convicts who may essentially lie about sexual abuse in their past just to garner enough sympathy to not be held responsible for their crimes. I believe that most would not, but I’m also sure that a few would…
Honestly, I’m quite disturbed by some of the responses on here, though I can’t say I’m surprised.
What a lot of people don’t realize is that being transgendered isn’t cross-dressing or simply ‘wanting’ to be the opposite sex. I personally know many people who were born as hermaphrodites and those who were born with 1 sexual organ but obviously look, talk, walk, sound like the opposite sex.
I understand a lot of people don’t truly “understand” what transgendered is. I’m a gay male and even it confuses me at times.
I don’t believe they should create a unisex bathroom. They can do one of two things;
1) Have a PTA Meeting and discuss the issue with all the parents who have children in the school system. Let them air their concerns and let the parents (and other individuals truly educated on the issue of transgenders) answer questions.
See how parents feel about the child using the girls bathroom.
2) Make the child continue to use the boys bathroom, as he is still a boy.
I understand people don’t get it, think the boy is just a cross-dresser, or even more idiotically, think he’s gay.
Fact is, transgendered people have larger numbers than some realize. I’m sure none of you can imagine the struggle, mentally, one has in having their body and mind tell them they are the opposite sex, but when they look in the mirror, they see different.
I really need to point out that the topic of homosexuality really doesn’t even need to be touched because homosexuality has zilch to do with transgenders or “cross-dressing”. And there is a difference between transexuals and transgendered.
Those who claim the “gay” people they know openly admit to choosing their sexual preference;
Then they aren’t gay at all. Homosexuality is the sexual attraction to someone of the same gender. Which is not something ‘anyone’ can control.
I for one, fought for years to try and change the feelings I had as a child.
I hated having feelings for other males. I begged and prayed to God to help me change what I was feeling. I even had sex with girls and refused to even look at another boy in any manner.
I almost drove myself to suicide because I felt I was such a disgrace to God. So I can tell you 100%, I did not choose to be gay. If I could, I certainly would never have done so.
And for those of you who believe people can ‘change’. Making yourself have sex with / marry someone of the opposite sex does not make you heterosexual. The attraction is all that matters. If you’re still attracted to or think about the same gender, you’re still gay. (;
So, I really think a lot of people on this thread need to educate themselves about issues before spouting off at the mouth. I’m not saying people have to ‘accept’ any of this, there is a difference between acceptance and understanding.
I’m perfectly fine with those who disagree with homosexuality, transgendered, etc. As long as you have an educated reason and not just a ‘quote’ from the Bible.
Perhaps some people would rather have this outcome?
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Gender-torment-of-10yearold-Cameron.3781793.jp
Wow.
Lots of bashing on here right now.
You do all know that there is tons of research on this.
They are not just acting on a whim.
They have full consultation of the medical profession, the kid’s doctor, therapist, etc.
They are not just being irresponsible.
This is the advice that lots of people with PHD’s and experts in the field have given them as the best possible course of action to so the least amount of harm.
They have studied all possible outcomes and they have plenty of examples of the options people have suggested in here and have found that those do not work as well.
Or in some cases are downright dangerous.
This may seem a little weird, but it’s the best course for these people.
Otherwise they get all kinds of problems that are much worse.
I don’t claim to understand all of it but I do trust that someone who studies this for their livelyhood and has done it for years, probably knows what they are talking about.
And they’ve got a lot of experts on their phone dial.