According to this church directory service, there are 2,668 churches in Chicago of one type or another of the Christian faith. It begs the question: why did Barack Obama choose Jeremiah Wright to be his spiritual mentor?
As more and more of his sermons are reviewed (you can buy them online!), it is clear that Mr. Wright pushes a radical, racist form of socialism. How does a guy sit in the pew week after week, year after year and not be influenced by this? And yet, after hearing these teachings for years, Mr. Obama’s plans were to have Mr. Wright deliver the invocation at his announcement that he was running for president. Why?
In addition to his sermon (sermon?) hoping that God would damn America, Mr. Wright has also said:
“Jesus was a poor black man who lived in a country and who lived in a culture that was controlled by rich white people,” Wright preached in one Christmas sermon.
“The Romans were rich. The Romans were Italian, which means they were European, which means they were white. And the Romans ran everything in Jesus’ country.”
But Obama was different, Wright said.
“He ain’t white, he ain’t rich, and he ain’t privileged. Hillary fits the mold,” he said.
Actually, he’s half-white, he’s rich and he’s very privileged. It’s true that his father left when he was 2 and he was for the most part raised by a single mother. But as the latest front page puff piece on him by NY Times says:
By 1974, Ms. Soetoro was back in Honolulu, a graduate student and raising Barack and Maya, nine years younger. Barack was on scholarship at a prestigious prep school, Punahou. When Ms. Soetoro decided to return to Indonesia three years later for her field work, Barack chose not to go.
He was a privileged world traveler that lived with his grandparents throughout high school, then went to a small, very expensive liberal arts college, then transferred to Columbia University and then on to Harvard Law. Accomplished, yes. Privileged, yes. From the hood, no.
Mr. Wright also said:
“Hillary never had a cab whiz past her and not pick her up because her skin was the wrong color. Hillary never had to worry about being pulled over in her car . . . Hillary ain’t never been called a n—–.”
I guess in his racial blindness, it never occurred to Mr. Wright that women too have been discriminated against. As have Italians, Irish, Polish, Indians (Native Americans) and every other group of people on the planet.
But for years, Barack Obama sat in the pews listening to this man’s garbage, never speaking out against it, never pointing out the errors. That should tell you what type of “change” he wants to bring to America.
BTW, where has Michelle been hiding lately?
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Seems pretty obvious to me that this clown & Michelle Obama are two peas in a pod.
Well well well. It seems the Golden Child has some tarnish after all.
Here’s the problem - nobody on the Dim side cares. This will not change a single vote in the primaries, and most likely will not change anything in the general election should he keep Hillary from stealing it from him. While it’s good for scare tactics and generating faux outrage from the conservative side, what’s the net result - to try to get me to vote for Big John? I’m waffling against my principles already and thinking I might vote for BJ, but Obama is scary enough without this stuff. Let Hillary trash him and let’s stay out of it until later.
When I’m ready to put in a garden, I want Jeremiah Wright to come to my house. You see, our soil is really crappy, and I’ll need a good dose of BS to remediate my soil.
The “BO” team is almost to the finish line and that’s why you don’t hear much about “BO”s spiritual mentor or his wife. It looks like the “race” card has trumped the “gender” card and that makes HELLary and the rest of the white women in the Dimwit party fighting mad. HELLary tries to stay above the fray using her troops to say what’s on her mind and then firing them after it gets into the liberal media. With plenty of statements to be made, she has the troops to sacrifice for the “good” of the cause.
Some years ago, our friend and CPA sent me an e-mail attachment which was a pictoral essay on lynchings in America. Trying to figure out why he would send this to me, I looked at the first 10 pictures or so before I just couldn’t take it anymore. Before I finally was so absolutely disgusted that I couldn’t take it anymore, I did see two pics of Italians who had also been lynched.
Why do these people dwell on such horrible moments when they are no longer relevant? And, since my fellow ethnic “relatives” were also lynched, may I also stand in line for reparations? Do I have a right to have my own private well of hatred for white people? Or, since they were European, thus white, why were these Italians singled out for such punishment?
Questions that will haunt me for years. Not.
#6 tedtam,
my grandmother said “baby there are things you will just never understand”.
bigjolly
C’mon bigjolly be fair. read this:
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/3/3/14599/38103/
I was under the impression that if a church got involved in politics they would lose their tax-exempt status. I remember last year when there was the marriage amendment my church stated they weren’t allowed to publicly support the amendment because of this, they could only mention it.
Jeez Izzy, you’re getting worse than the Rombies at justifying your candidate’s failings.
And Izzy, see my last comment on yesterday’s thread about Obama’s racist preacher.
The media needs to dig further into Obama’s religious upbringing. It explains entirely why he chooses to go to such a nutty church.
His father and step father were both muslims. The latter raised him in a mosque.
His mother and grandparents were kooky Unitarians. This is the website of the church that the Dunhams attended in the 1960’s before moving to Hawaii.
http://www.eastshoreunitarian.org/
It was known to the locals as the “Little Red Church on the Hill,” red being a reference to its political sympathies. A quick perusal of their website shows not much has changed. On the upcoming events schedule: a euthanasia pageant, a vernal equinox celebration, a dance of “universal peace,” a muslim women’s film night, and multiple anti-war events.
It is unsurprising, to say the least, that Barack’s current church has close connections to both religions of his upbringing. Jeremiah Wright, the black nationalist bigot who runs the place, is in tight with the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan. His church is formally affiliated with the United Church of Christ, which is a schismatic offshoot from a break in the Unitarian church several decades ago.
Izzy,
You are really reaching. Hagee has had that reputation for years - I doubt McCain has ever stepped inside his church. And McCain condemed the remarks, see Hamous’ note from yesterday.
Comparing a political endorsement to Obama’s years of sitting and listening at the feet of Mr. Wright is less than disingenuous.
Re Hagee: he can be a complete kook at times, and he’s said some offensive things - particularly about Catholics. Nobody denies that. But:
1. McCain does not personally attend Hagee’s church.
2. McCain is not close personal friends with Hagee.
3. Hagee is not McCain’s personal pastor.
4. McCain has only known Hagee through recent political activity - not a two decade relationship.
5. McCain has intentionally distanced himself from Hagee’s more controversial comments.
Phil M
Beat me to it. Like Hagee or not, Hagee isn’t a foaming at the mouth racist like Obama’s close friend and mentor. If Obama wanted to distance himself from reverend Rerun Racist, he’s had TWENTY YEARS to do it. Only when the stank of his beliefs are konwn to the world does he acknowledge it. Osama er rather Obama and his America hating wife and church are being exposed for what they really are! AFROCENTRIC RACISTS!
The Audacity of Hate!
#12 Phil_M,
You know Phil, 99.9% of all black churches were offshoots/formed from established churches DECADES ago and that’s a fact.
And he (reverend Cleophas Junebug that is) hangs out with Momar Qadaffi!
6. Hagee didn’t perform McCain’s marriage ceremony.
7. Hagee didn’t baptize McCain’s children.
#16 - The affiliation of Obama’s current church - the UCC - is not exclusively black. He simply goes to a predominantly black one that teaches an afrocentric racist version of UCC theological doctrine (which is essentially Unitarianism-lite)
17 Fasternu 426, now you are talking about a real nut case!
#19 I can’t argue with the point you made.
The real comparison should be between Barack Hussein Obama and David Duke. They are the mirror image of each other….. Not Wright and Hagee.
Sometimes when I’m on lunch break we go to this sandwich shop near the office. There’s a local afrocentric church that sets up a soapbox on a nearby corner and preaches.
Actually, it’s more of a cult than a church because the people affiliated with it are clearly crazy. They even make the Nation of Islam look semi-coherent. The preacher dresses up in - I kid you not - an ancient Israeli temple robe and headcloth (plus a giant gold star of david around his neck).
They only give their literature to black people, but I picked one off the sidewalk one day…and found out why they only give it to black people. This group apparently thinks that it is the “lost tribe of Israel,” that white people are the “sons of Cain” and thus ineligible for either membership or salvation, that real Jews are “impostors,” and that an international conspiracy between the Jews and the United States government caused 9/11.
The reason I mention it is that the plainly mentally deranged fellow in temple garb with the star of David bling bling sounds EXACTLY like Obama’s preacher when he’s ranting from his soapbox. Same politics, same kooky conspiracy theories, same afrocentric bigotry.
How about running a real black American Man?? JC Watts? I’d love to see McCain pick him up as a running mate. He’d shut a lot of mouths!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.C._Watts
Jeramiah is no Bullfrog….
Jeramiah is A Racist, He is a mentor to Barack
The Pimpy Media never covers a single word he says
And his Kool-Aid drinkers always drink his wine
When ole Jer-am-iah starts to Whine….
Sing it
Joy to Jer-ah Mih..When he blames Whitey
Joy to the Bigot in the Pulpit you see
He loves to sow disharmony
And if Jer-ah-muh were the king of the world
I’ll tell you what he’d do
He’d throw all the white folks in the deep blue sea
and make zombies outta the rest of you
sing it…
Joy to Jer-ah Mih..When he blames Whitey
Joy to the Bigot in the Pulpit you see
He loves to sow disharmony
#22 Fastneru 426
That statment does not even deserve an answer.
#4
If you think your soil is crappy now, what do you think it would be after Wright finished?
One the other hand good fertilize is now $100.00 per acre. Maybe I could get him to come by my place too.
This group apparently thinks that it is the “lost tribe of Israel,”
Phil M
That is just the mirror image of the Christian Identity stuff that Nazis cling to.
“Christian Identity’s key commonality is British Israelism theology, which teaches that white Europeans are the literal descendants of the Israelites through the ten tribes that were taken away into captivity by the armies of Assyria. Furthermore, the teaching holds that these (White European) Israelites are still God’s Chosen People, that Jesus was an Israelite of the tribe of Judah, and that modern Jews are not at all Israelites nor Hebrews but are instead descended from Turco-Mongolian blood, or Khazars, and are descendants of the Biblical Esau-Edom who traded his birthrights for a bowl of soup.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity
The only difference is that is comes out of a foul black mouth instead of a foul white mouth.
Phil,
I am happy to say most of the individuals I know would not sing that song and I bet if you looked in the trash cans in the area you would have found more of those flyers.
22 fasternu
It’s comforting to know we have people like you protecting our freedoms…..
#8 IZZY
1. Is that your best arguement? Well so and so did this. That does not make it right does it.
2. Hagge is not McCains personal pastor for the last 20 years.
3. Jeramiah Wright is a RACIST of the worst type, and apparently Obama supports his views.
izquierdo
It is scary that we have people like Obama, that wants to be in charge of our liberty, who apparently support extreme racist views. Even worse is when people like you are willing to make any excuse to cover for this contemptible behavior.
izzy
Is that all you can say about the Obimanation Of Desolation? WEEEEEEAAAAAK!
Defend him and his TWENTY YEAR RELATIONSHIP with the racist preacher…. who married he and his wife and baptized his children, go ahead.
The same guy that won’t put his hand over his heart for National Anthem, wear a flag pin on his lapel, has Che Gueverra flags on the wall in his campaign offices, goes to the First Church Of Hate Whitey is finally being seen for what he is. Go ahead and defend him. Not only do I question your patriotism, I question your sanity.
The two term Illinois senator and 1/2 term US Senator’s pastor and mentor is a racist and he hates America. The two term Illinois senator and 1/2 term US Senator has him on his campaign staff. Osama named his book, “The audacity of Hope” from a sermon “The audacity to Hope” preached by the hateful reverend. BTW, the sermon where he said G-d Damn America was just DAYS AFTER 9-1-1!!!
The Senator’ reverend and spiritual mentor has traveled to Lybia, has praised Farrakhan, and calls for G-d to damn America and on and on and on….. Now, what is it in there for you to defend? You must really have a lot of hate for yourself and others to be liberal.
What’s hidden in the darkness eventually comes to light…….
I questions anyone’s sanity who defends this idiot preacher too. This preacher is a classic Ignorant of the worst kind - the kind of foolish moron who surrounds himself with equally empty-headed followers looking for an answer as to why their lives are a mess.
Well, at least izquierdo likes him….
I freely admit I never like Obama’s political positions. However, I thought he was a nice guy and even sympathized over the false accusation that he was/is a Muslim.
Now that I know that he has supported this kind of so called Christianity for 20+ years I really have no sympathy at all,
Izzy - continuing to try and insert a red herring (Hagee) into the debate on Obama’s character flaws tells me you have no argument. Is that really all you have?
“He ain’t white, he ain’t rich, and he ain’t privileged. Hillary fits the mold,” he said.
Not only is racism a problem with them, they also profess to be poor. Only recently could they afford to pay off their student loans, which is why one platform is free college. Give me a break! My sister in law got pell grants for school, and guess what? She never bothered to finish. Free is perceived to have exactly the value of what it cost. So what if you drop out of a free class! Here is a synopsis of their pooness.
According to the couple’s 2006 income tax return, Michelle’s salary was $273,618 from the University of Chicago Hospitals, while he had a salary of $157,082 from the United States Senate. The total Obama income, however, was $991,296 including $51,200 she earned as a member of the board of directors of TreeHouse Foods, plus investments and royalties from his book.
Michelle’s income almost tripled in one year at that hospital without a promotion. Maybe that is part of the reason for obscene health care costs. Oh, I forgot - Obama is going to solve that too!
I think I’ll trade places with them. They can be rich and white like me and I’ll be poor and black like them.
klayman
This was AFTER he threw some earmarked money at the hospital she works for.
Boy, Sen. Obama sure ’nuff likes his swine.
Swine is haram!
Obama, Oprah, Osteen…what is it with this country’s apparent need for shallow self-gratification premised on empty meaningless rhetoric?
Cmonnnnnn Yall! Where’s the -out-of-the-box thinking today?
All we need to do is find out the next tome BO and his Preacher buddy are riding to lunch together - we can get one of PhilM’s cop ‘buddies’ to pullem over! (they’d never be heard from again right?)
Problem Solved!
43 - Wouldn’t work. Politicians use cops to insulate themselves from the rest of us in the unwashed masses. The thin blue line isn’t between law and criminality - it’s between the government elites and the rest of us. That’s why politicians get off easy for doing things that would throw the rest of us in prison for decades. Just ask Ted Kennedy.
#42 Phil_M
It is a human thing. In Europe, they try to satisfy that urge with the European Union Church of Secular Devotion. In the Islamic world, it is martyrdom. Various superstitious tribal cults in Africa and Asia feed on the same human need.
#44 - Cmonnnnnnnn Phil! A couple of well placed bumper stickers stating the eternal “cop-donut” relationship oughtta do it.
RIGHT?
Where’s Michelle? Hanging out with Waldo probably.
hamous and faster
I’m just looking for some balance here. It’s always the Dems bad and repubs good, or at least not bad. Once, just once I’d like to see the good people at LST give a liberal perspective. Hey that gives me an idea……I’ll be a guest commentator! How much of a contribution do I have to make to get on par with hamous, bigjolly, texpat, squawk et al. Wow the possibilities are unlimited, and just think of the new bloggers you’d get. Hmmm…
From today’s Wall Street Journal, Ron Kessler writes about a speech given by Jeremiah Wright at Howard University in 2006:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120545277093135111.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries
Are you really claiming we give Republicans a pass?
You are either a liar or an illiterate.
you know, i’m not voting for obama b/c he’s black. i’m not voting for him because of the racism. “we need a change” tells me plenty what kind of change he wants…
you know, i’m not voting for obama b/c he’s black. i won’t vote for him because of the racism. “we need a change” tells me plenty what kind of change he wants…
#50 Matt
It must be that public education…
I would have to say that LST’s tone has not been favorable to the Reps either, Iz. So you’re being disengenious.
And by just pointing the finger at the other guy, you don’t address the current question.
What is your opinion on Sen. Obama’s 20 year relationship with the Reverand? Will this in anyway change your view?
I’m interested not in your opinon of how bad others are, but in Obama himself, as regards this information specifically.
48 izz
We already have a token liberal - Big Jolly.
#54, StacyE,
I would like to answer your question. Hate speech is hate speech no matter who’s mouth it come out of. Growing up listening to it from all sides has not caused me to believe in it or to repeat it. I am supporting OB because I think he is just as capable as the present guy and I have not heard him say anything that hateful. There are plenty of people that don’t say one word that is hateful but their actions show otherwise and I am HOPEing that this is the change he is speaking of. What does it really matter what a politician say when we vote them in office they do what THEY believe in and is why we are in the mess we are in.
Someone raised the question how Obama’s mother felt about the extreme statements made by the Reverend. I am truly worried about where our country is headed and it would be very bad if we wound up in a race war on top of all the bad things that we are faced with already.
The one thing that stood out about the Reverend’s
extreme anti American speech is for God to damn our great nation. America is still the greatest nation on earth and we will work ourselves out of the troubles we are in, eventually! Yes!, we are governed by lousy polititians and Yes!,greed has become dominant for many Americans, but we will
return our country to greatness!
Lastly, I wonder how the reaction would be if Sen. McCain were allied closely with a grand dragon of the KKK, there would be a much greater uproar from the left media. God bless America.
#48 -
I vote you need at LEAST 99 CONSECUTIVE direct answers to direct questions with no allowance for ANY use of the word invective
Obama says faith ‘plays every role’ in his life
Mon., Oct. 8, 2007
GREENVILLE, S.C. - White House hopeful Barack Obama stood in front of a pulpit Sunday and told worshippers that his faith “plays every role” in his life.
“It’s what keeps me grounded. It’s what keeps my eyes set on the greatest of heights”
The Illinois senator is a member of the United Church of Christ, a church of about 1.2 million members that is considered one the most liberal of the mainline Protestant groups.
Obama told the audience that people ask him, “`What role does faith play?’ I say, `It plays every role.’”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21190019/
Matt,
If you really think that you are balanced between dems and repubs….well I hate to call you a liar, not clever, let’s just say your nose is growing. It is true that you do castigate some repubs, but in no way are you balanced between the left and the right. I hope you aren’t insinuating that..
texpat
Easy big fellow. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas…..
54 Stacey
More fair to repubs than dems, no?
Remember when “progressives” beat up Bush for making a similar statement or jumped on Huckabee for the cross (at Christmas) ad?
Izzy - in case you haven’t noticed this is a CONSERVATIVE BLOG. Is this an attempt to force your “fairness doctrine” down the throats of conservatives because you are incapable or unwilling to justify your candidate’s positions?
54 StacyE
What do you want me to say? Jeramiah Wright is a racist. Is that good enough? But you’re not at all, right? I think we all are to a greater or lesser extent
#64 hamous,
I’ve noticed and is one of the reasons I enjoy LST. I can’t stand to be a one sided person.
blackgirl, I’m glad you stick around. I also appreciate you not whining about how biased we are.
Just to show you I don’t need a picture to write a “Top Ten” list of anything and to be part of this discussion, I have decided to modify an old Bill Clinton adage: “It depends on what the meaning of “izz” is??” So here is my list:
The meaning of “izz” is that:
1) You can be a politician and avoid answering the hard questions.
2) You can invent words and apply your own meaning to them.
3) You can be as opinionated as you want.
4) You can deny the obvious, even if it is starring you right in the face.
5) You can interpret things to your liking.
6) You can rewrite history and facts to fit your agenda.
7) You can spew out whatever type of venom you want and at whoever you want.
9) You can be as liberal or as conservative as you want to be.
10) You can have the “PC” police protect your minority position.
I hope this is taken in the context of the humor that it was meant or whatever “is” is!!!
Oh, and free to add to my list, just in case I didn’t get the meaning right.
Have a nice day!!!!!!
To each his own.
Izzy
You still don’t answer any questions… So, should the Obamination of Desolation keep the racist on his staff? Should he keep him as his spiritual advisor? Should he stop going to the church he has gone to for TWENTY YEARS? If he attended once or twice I could give him a pass. But TWENTY YEARS! It’s more than just one hate speech in those twenty years! There are more, and Obama refuses to separate himself from the messenger, thereby tacitly approving of the message.
The double standards are astounding. What about Bob Jones University? GOP candidates had to disassociate themselves from there. They didn’t even have the close relationships that a TWENTY YEAR member of a church would have with his church.
And Bob Jones University didn’t rise to nearly the same level of racism this supporter of Louis Farrakhan and Momar Qadaffi has.
You really have to have a lot of hate in you to love Obama…
If this stuff came out of my pastor, we’d have a talk, I wouldn’t be tithing over twenty thousand dollars!
faster
you pose an interesting conundrum. He should definately disassociate the pastor from his campaign, for several reasons. As far as his spiritual advisor goes, it might be time to look inside himself and ask the question…..wwjd? Question to you faster, should John McCain disassociate himself from Hagee?
64 hamous
So if I’m reading you properly, because this is a CONSERVATIVE Blog, it’s your conservative view, no matter what. Hang the liberal perspective even if a cogent position is espoused. That seems shallow and disingenuous. But if that’s what LST wants….good with me. After all it’s a free country….later
He has, and he doesn’t have a TWENTY YEAR PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with him. McCain hasn’t given twenty grand last year to Hagee. Hagee didn’t baptize his children. And Hagee doesn’t rise even remotely to the level of the racist diatribe of Obama’s personal pastor. But, you can twist it to fit your reasoning all you want.
Hagee loves America, Hagee loves Israel. Hagee doesn’t call for G-d to damn this country, but to bless it. The good pastor from Chicago has more in common with David Duke than John Hagee.
Hmmmmmmm.
http://blog.beliefnet.com/godometer/2008/03/catholic-league-issues-8th-mcc.html
HAL got me. Twice.
Grrrrr.
Izzy,
You can honestly say with a straight face that LST hangs “the liberal perspective even if a cogent position is espoused”?
There’s 2 problems with this statement:
1) You almost NEVER espouse a cogent position.
2) Despite this, LST allows you spout your gibberish on a daily basis.
Honestly, you’re way out there man. I’d say you lived in Bizzaroland, but I have a feeling even Bizzaro wants to avoid Izzyworld. It’s too strange there.
Let me see if I understand your complaint. LST’s management and staff have spent their time, efforts and money to provide an open forum where pretty much anyone can say pretty much anything. We open this forum to you at no charge. After taking full advantage of it, you then complain that there aren’t enough people who agree with you.
Is that about it?
Thanks HAL.
You can delete the first copy. It didn’t have the link anyway.
We love you HAL.
79
Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are.
You are missing the fact that Obama is raising his children in this racist, hate-filled church. Obama is not poor or oppressed, his wife is educated, not poor or oppressed, but the USA has not been good to them. They are ashamed of their country. So is their spiritual guide and pastor. There is a country of origin for these haters. It’s Africa. Their beloved Africa, where 3 generations ago, their relatives were kidnapped by OTHER TRIBAL AFRICANS and sold into slavery. Three generations later, Obama is running for President, his wife makes 6 figures, but this country is to be ashamed of. In three generations where would Obama and Michelle be in Africa, had their relatives not been stolen? They would be living in huts, uneducated, and probably starving. ( I am using Obama and Michelle figuratively as examples of this racist mentality). I say, go back to Africa…….. live in your hut.. This country offers opportunity to anyone who seeks it.
#78 - You OWE me a new screen squeegee!!!!!
I wonder if I took a large ship to Africa, told the people there, come to America, you’ll have to be a slave but in 3 generations, your family will have anything and everything, if you get educated ( free)…. the sky is the limit…. how fast would that boat fill?
#83 american woman,
don’t we have enough people from south of the border because of the same promises?
Wow. I’m having flashbacks. That sure sounds familiar. If I didn’t know better…
We’ve already been over that, izzy. McCain doesn’t go to Hagee’s church. Hagee didn’t preside over McCain’s wedding, and he didn’t baptize McCain’s kids. Not so for Obama-Wright.
#83, yes I agree, we do. My point is these people look at their African heritage as if it’s something so wonderful, from which they were taken. Fact is, it was horrid. They didn’t come to much better, being slaves, but in 3 generations, life is their choice to make. They aggrandize this culture on a different continent, and blame me for their failure.
#65 Izzy: Speak for yourself buddy. I’m not. I don’t care a bit about the color of your skin (nor for that matter whether you have a y chromosome or not) I generally judge people on whether they can think or not, and frankly, you’re beginning to disappoint me a little bit.
#86 I think one has to associate, before one can disassociate.
#87 american woman, I knew what you meant, I just could not resist. Please keep up the good work at your sites. Maybe one day I will join you!
#90 I would love to have you join me, and detected the laugher in your writing
Just for you, my love…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBe85UKa1GQ
#92 - yanno you JUST made me realize the ONLY thing missing from THIS version is George H’s oh-so-sweet guitar solo…….
http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=3750a1de-0e38-40c9-b320-904bea7faf97
Izzy, your GDA #53 yesterday was right on the money. I just wish you would recognize more that it’s conservatives who are the friends of minorities and not liberals.
The message of conservatives is that if you try you can/will succeed. The message of liberals is that without us, you’ll never succeed. Brown vs. Board of Ed. happened under Eisenhower - R. It was the GOP that got the voting rights act passed over the objections of Democrats.
It was 24 year old Republican Harry Burn who cast the deciding vote in the Tennessee legislature to ratify women’s right to vote on August 18, 1920. It was the GOP which ended slavery of the whip and chain. Dems just substituted their own slavery of the dollar and benefit.
It is the conservative minority who upholds common sense values and decency, and who speaks out against the corruption and immorality of public officials who is ridiculed by the liberal minority as trying to act white, as if a skin color has something to do with those values.
It is the college liberal professor who conservative students know will attack them with lower grades if they speak out.
It is the liberals who will condone the slaughter of innocent babies in the womb, but seek to protect the murderer.
As we have seen with Geraldine Ferraro’s remarks, racism is alive and well with Dems. A conservative doesn’t give one hoot in hell what a person’s color is. We only care what they believe and how they live their lives. If a conservative makes it to the top and is not white, we presume they are there because they are the best….not because they got there on a quota. We want all people of all races to succeed, because it’s beneficial for all races. What we want is the same high standard for all races, and we don’t want an excuse that you can’t meet that same high standard. We have no patience for anybody of any race who refuses to try, then expects us to pay for their laziness.
In this day and age, the old dogs better learn fast, or they will be left behind.
RE: my #93 - Hall I thought I was on the OC thread - please delete and sorry ’bout dat!
/sigh…
This man does not preach from The Bible that I am familiar with. Jesus was not a black man, and Jesus did not care about skin color. This “preacher” is a hater, and Barack must hate the white man to, if he can listen (and obviously agree with) to this nut job for 20 years.
I’m sure McCain will not have the guts to associate the two. In fact, McCain will probably end up apologizing to Barack at a debate, for the mean things that the conservatives said.
Wright is a racist. Anyone that denies that is unbalanced. As BHO’s “spiritual leader”…Mr. Obama needs to now prove that he does not agree with such thinking. It is apparent that Mrs. Obama does. I smell a Manchurian Candidate. The sad part is how the church folk seem to agree with Wright. So much for hope and change…TGIF
#94 You are so correct. Katrina happened under the Rep. watch, but that situation happen because of years of neglect. Welfare - don’t you suppose to ever get off it. Katrina was really a disgrace. Years and years of welfare - the only thing a lot of the people knew. So sad.
100!!!!!!!!!!!!
#94 Well said!
Obama has now addressed any concerns anybody has about his membership in the church that has become a campaign talking point. Those who might have been inclined to vote for Obama anyway will say it’s good enough. Those who weren’t will go in belaboring what has been a really tiresome issue.
#101 however, there are republicans so fed up with politics as usual,who were going to cross over. They may skip the box, but they won’t cast a vote for this fraud.
#101 - It’s probably only tiresome if you’d prefer that it went away. I have read Obama’s remarks, and frankly they didn’t come close to explaining how he could sit under the teaching, and be mentored (his words) by someone who is so offensively racist. As far as I can tell it means 1 of 3 things:
1. He absolutely agrees with Rev. Wright. He’s just as bigoted, hateful and racist, he’s just done a much better job of hiding it. (I think this probably describes Michelle Obama).
2. He doesn’t believe it at all. But he hasn’t really been mentored by Rev.Wright, or actually listened to anything much that he’s said for the past 20 years. His church membership is simply a convenient facade.
3. He doesn’t agree with Rev. Wright, but has so little spine or personal integrity that he can’t or won’t stand up and denounce this swill for what it is, and he doesn’t even have the gumption to pick up and move to a church where they actually preach and teach something resembling Christianity.
I think one needs to look into Obama’s life in the earlier years, before Rev. Wright. I don’t know if these two were friends, however…
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2169
102 american woman,
I agree, it may come to skipping the box for a lot of people. I can’s support McCain because I don’t feel he is being honest about what he is going to do with the undocumented. That leave Clinton and Obama. Clinton I feel will leave things as is. Obama I feel will keep some but most will be sent back across the border. Who knows we just might get lucky and get a third person in Nov.
Several people have made a salient point but since some still don’t get it it’s worth repeating again:
Barack Obama went to this man’s church, sat in this man’s pews, and listened to this man’s racist anti-American rants for twenty years. TWENTY YEARS! And yet, not only does he still attend that church, he chose this man to administer the most sacred of vows, his marriage. He chose this man to anoint his worldly legacy by baptizing his babies. He chose this man to be his spiritual advisor. He titled his book after a sermon this man gave. Any comparison to someone like Hagee merely supporting someone like McCain is preposterous.
Hamous so well said!! here here!! It looks like the truth is coming out. Now, let’s see what the MSM does with the truth.
I love it when people who could care less WWJD try to play gotcha with WWJD…
Let’s do some math.
Let’s say that Barack Obama only went to this church once a month.
That’s 12 months times 20 years = 240 sermons he attended. I’d call that a decent MINIMUM for a guy who used one of those sermons as the title of his book.
Now, it’s likley he went to this church more than once a month seeing as how he has appointed the pastor to his Campaign Commitee and donated $22,500
to this church just in 2006:
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/summaryobama.pdf
That’s almost twice as much as he gave to the Congressional Black Caucus.
So I think it’s safe to say he attended a bit more often, so let’s say he attended twice a month instead, making 480 sermons.
Let’s be fair and say that these sermons lasted around an hour, and then round up to account for the fact that they likely were longer than that and we come up with a fairly good estimate that Brack Obama has spent 500 hours listening to what this pastor says.
Just today, he realizes that his pastor has been saying some “controversial things” and distances himself from them with a “statement.”
Even if Obama is telling the truth and he wasn’t really aware of the guiding philosophy of the church he donated $22,500 to the year he was elected to the Senate, all that tells us is that he’s just as observant as Hillary Clinton says she was when she told us she had no idea Bill was having affairs.
Don’t know about you, but even if both Hillary and Obama are telling the truth, and all other things were equal between them and McCain, I’d like to have somebody with a bit more snap than the two who can’t see a bright pink elephant in the middle of the living room. In the world we live in, I want somebody who can pay attention just a little bit better than those two.
And frankly, I’m insulted that they think anybody would buy their explanations, deeply saddened that there are some who will buy it as the truth, and even more saddened by the fact that there are folks out there who know they are lying and it doesn’t matter to them.
I don’t for a micro-millisecond buy that Ron Paul signed racist newsletters for 10 years and didn’t know what was written in them, that Barack Obama spent 20 years in a racist church and didn’t know it until it was pointed out to him, or that Hillary didn’t know that Bill was boinking everything in a skirt that came within arms reach.
Here is a letter to the editor, at the American Thinker, from a Pastor.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/03/obamas_incredible_denial_conce.html
Now Obama is saying he wasn’t present for any of those racist diatribes. We can nail down exactly when those speeches were made, then check Obama’s tax records and see if he has church donations or attended functions on those dates. Dime to a dollar he was there.
The press wants to ignore conservatives who happen to be black or Hispanic. They don’t fit the mold and lay waste to the claim of a monolithic racial viewpoint. I sure wish people like Walter Williams (who I’d vote for if he ran for President) or Thomas Sowell or Ken Hamblin would be more vocal and join FOX to counter some of these charlatans on news programs.
I say Obama got big problems with this issue.
Like I said,
McCain needs to pick JC Watts as his running mate. Not because he’s black. But because he’s conservative. They’re heads will explode with rage when they hear a good conservative voice that isn’t an old white guy, thereby destroying the myth.
Fasternu, doesn’t always work out. Michael Steele of Maryland is a good example.
EXACTLY, Sarge!
Uh…I should mention that I don’t consider Paul’s oversight in not monitoring more closely every sentence published in his newsletter, to be on par with the bright pink elephants of Obama’s Wright connection or Hillary’s Compulsive Philandering Husband problem. Paul has been putting together his newsletter since 1985, and the comments in question only ran in 1992. It was a mistake for which Paul has indeed floundered a bit in trying to explain, but he did address it and, even more importantly, he has never been shown to have done, said, written or in any way, shape or form, condoned any bigoted thought since those statements.
The truth is that he is an outspoken opponent of racism and has this to say on the subject,