So, your precious little child has a filthy mouth and starts cursing around a teacher. She takes the traditional approach and washes the kid’s mouth out with soap. Gets fired. So what’s a modern parent to do? Why, sue her, what else?
A state district court jury has awarded the family of a Sims Elementary School student whose teacher was accused of forcing him to drink liquid soap $15,000 in damages in a civil suit, according to court documents.
Now the parents will be $15,000 richer and the kid has surely learned a few new curse words in the two years since the incident. What awesome parenting skills!
The award itself is a joke.
On Friday, a jury in state district court awarded $5,000 for pain and mental anguish and $10,000 for future mental anguish, the documents said.
LOL. Give me 5 grand and I’ll drink the whole bottle of soap. As for future mental anguish, yep, I lay awake at night thinking about the times my mama washed my mouth out. And thanking her for it. Is that anguish?
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Oh BigJ, if we support discipline, respect teachers, and require kids to learn….we can’t grow irresponsible, ignorant, sheep.
It would have cost my father 15 G’s to replace the teeth he would have knocked out of my head for cursing the teacher in the first place.
This country is slowly going down the tubes.
I never got liquid soap. It was the bar of hand soap. And I learned my lesson real quick. Of course back than we didn’t have PC police.
And soceity wonders why there is a huge shortage of teachers. It will get nothing but worse. The legislature thinks they can throw money at it in the form of increased pay for teachers. I’ve been in the classroom for 15 years - I won’t turn down their money. But that doesn’t change the idiocy that is currently called classroom discipline management. It has become the epitome of buearacracy run amok.
What caring parent of yore didn’t do this? Haven’t thought of this since I was maybe 7. Recall trying to get the soap off the back of my front teeth using my tongue but that made things soapier. Mental anguish? Hell, them’s fine thoughts of parental endearment.
(Ooops. Typed a bad word. Here comes Ma running after me with a bar of Ivory in her hand. Wonder if she can still climb a tree at her age.)
Although I had my mouth washed our with soap it was apparently a lost lesson.
I know you will find this difficult to believe, but Gram introduced me to the bar of soap too! It only took one time.
I suppose making the kid stand in the corner with a dunce cap on is even worse mental battering. The jury in this case must have been composed of recent public school graduates.
To go along with this thread, third graders in Ga, are found to be plotting to harm their teacher. They even brought a broken steak knife, glass paper weight, toy handcuffs and tape to school, In third grade I was 8 years old.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=106016
Wow, is this a great country or what, parents get rewarded for not teaching their kids right from wrong and what is acceptable behavior in our society. The kids get no discipline at home and the teachers get in trouble for trying to discipline them.
What a joke! The jury needs to have a bar of soap stuffed up their, well, you know what I mean. On the campus I work at, we have been told to “only write the students up for cussing IF they direct it towards a teacher or another student in an agressive manner”. If it is just used in general conversation we are supposed to ASK them to watch their language. I don’t know if I can make 15 more years without teaching one of these spoiled little bast@$ds an old fashioned lesson.
I don’t think it’s appropriate for a public school teacher to behave like this - there’s no way that she thought this was within the guidelines. I’m not happy with the way they’ve tied the hands of the teachers and can no longer discipline kids, but she had to know she’d be severely reprimanded or fired for this.
The lawsuit is ridiculous though - that should have been thrown out. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that the parents aren’t spending this money help cure his ‘mental anguish’.
#5 FourAlarm:
Serpentine! Old people are like pregnant people - they still have speed, but they don’t corner well.
I had my mouth washed out by my mother, who used a bar of soap and shoved in my mouth! It hurt, and that was abusive in my mind. I think the lawsuit is ridiculous, too, though.
12 - Raider Dave:
I was in 6th grade when I cussed at a teacher. I got 5 pops from the football coach, along with a note to take home for my parents to sign. When I showed the note to my Father, he provided additional motivation in the form of acute leather/flesh contact with his belt.
Didn’t cure me of bad language, but I sure watch who I use it around. Wasn’t abuse, just aversion training.
15 I hear ya Albert. I was brought up the same way. IMO, many of todays parents are hurting their child by not subscribing to corporal punishment. A while back I was at my step-sons soccer game and a member of the other team kicked one of our players. The one who got kicked took a swing at the other player in retaliation. The mother of the kid who took the swing ran onto the field and calmly said “no, we don’t do that”, then picked him up and carried him off the field. I would have torn his butt up and removed him from the game.
I’m sort of with #12.
But it depends on how it was done. Did she stand next to the child over a sink and ask that he wash his mouth out his soap? Or did she aggressively grab him, with him squirming, and poor liquid soap down his throat?
Had I been the mother, I would not have sued, but I would have had a meeting with the teacher.
G.Miller - Did the player that kicked at the child do it on purpose or was it an accident? If it was on purpose, to ignore it or to “tattle” to the coach only perpetuates a bully’s agressiveness. To stand up for oneself is not wrong. However, if it was an accident, then the “swing” should not have been taken. However, depending on the age of the kid, if his mother going out on the field and removing him (which would be an embarassment to the kid) and telling him that his actions are unacceptable works, then there is no problem. If this is action that is repeated over and over, then a a butt-whipping and removal from the sport for the season would be appropriate.
Never start a fight, but don’t walk away from one either.
#15 I’m not against the pops from the football coach or principal - I’m fine with that. The teacher knows better though. Parents shouldn’t be surprised by the discipline methods at their school, but again, this isn’t lawsuit worthy.
Where does the line start for drinking soap for 15,000?
I think the story says the “grandparents” sued. Which means … well where are the parents?
Dad probably is with another babymomma and babymomma #1 is probably in jail or drug rehab.
#18, I’m with you. it is one thing to start a fight, but another entirely to defend yourself. defending yourself should NEVER be discouraged, it teaches passivity in the face of aggression. Passivity in the face of aggression will get your arse killed.
At the risk of being repetitive……
THANKS for NUTHIN Doc Spock!!!!
Under this logic, Queen Sheila owes me. Big. I can’t even begin to comprehend the amount of mental anguish that person has caused me over the years, and against my will, too!
Neither of my parents believed in corporal punishment. They found a better way to handle the stituation: Platoon Commander Punishment. That big wide black Marine Corps Platoon Commander’s belt was a helluva lot bigger than an ordinary belt. The thinking was it covered a “wider” range of transgressions from which we likely had not been caught. Wonder how they knew that?
I’m not sure, but for some reason think drinking liquid soap is more dangerous than mom putting a bar of icky soap in one’s mouth.
Put 5 grand in my hand and we’ll find out.
I had a 6th grade teacher who, if you turned in a piece of work that was sloppily done, she’d return it saying it was “crap” (only using the more vulgar “sh word” in its place). But when my friend who for the sake of confidentiality (this happened only 25+ years ago, so it’s stil recent) said the same “sh word” once, she made him bring soap the next day and chew on a piece of it.
She was my second most favorite teacher. My most favorite was my second grade teacher who spanked my twice for urinating on my friend’s work (in another classroom).
These truly were my favorite teachers in elementary school.