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35 Responses to “Chron: Solve finances by printing $1.3T”
  1. One Voice on April 3rd, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    Sorry - Since when am I (as a taxpayer) resposible for other people not taking responsibility for their own actions? You can’t tell me that they did not know when they signed on the dottedd line that they could not keep up the payments!

    I live in a house that the Ugly House folks offered $12,000 for - and that was mostly for the land! I won’t hurt the “I want what I want - and I want it NOW!” folks to come down in the world a bit!

  2. One Voice on April 3rd, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    Oops! The should be “IT won’t hurt….”

  3. tqs on April 3rd, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    Matt did you see the story on Nightline about the couple that mortgaged their house to speculate on Florida Condos? They are loosing their butts but still say they are not stupid or greedy!

  4. Rastus on April 3rd, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    Why can’t the government allow home prices to drop down to the level that I can afford one? It’s probably because they don’t want to fool with cash buyers who don’t have to conform to all their crappy, social engineering programs related to home financing. They’ve got the no-good deadbeats in the neighborhoods right where they want them, and by allowing them to stay, they can further control every facet of their pitiful lives.

  5. Robert 1 on April 3rd, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    Let’s see, in this “buy vote” scheme are there more voters out there that need to be bailed out or are there more voters who worked hard to afford their house and therefore don’t want to pay more taxes to bail out the ones that screwed up??? The politicans had better take a poll!!!!

  6. bob42 on April 3rd, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    The whole situation reeks of corporatism and a government that tends to meddle to much in people’s lives.

    Follow the money trail and ask yourself who benefited most from the meddling… The home owner, who paid interest as long as he could, or the housing and mortgage industries.

  7. T-Hawkk on April 3rd, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    IDIOTS! democrats are too stupid to be given responsibility over ANYTHING!

    The Hildebeast wants to have a “freeze” on home foreclosures.

    I guess I can stop paying my mortgage now.

    What’s next, a “freeze” on car payments??

    Maybe a “freeze” on repos of giant flat-screen plasma tv’s that people bought and can’t afford?

    Democrat = Stupid

  8. dowjones4k on April 3rd, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    they are working on a bill for 400 billion and cornyn is in the middle of it.

    after all everyone needs to feel good and play nice. lolly pops and mary jane for all.

  9. Maltboy! on April 3rd, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    T-Hawkk

    Bush will sign the bill if passed. Refresh my memory, what party is he from? This is not a partisan issue. It is an issue of out-of-control spending, and the elephants are sucking up just as much as the jackasses.

  10. David Benzion on April 3rd, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    Matt, you miss the Chron’s unstated conflict of interest–

    Massive home foreclosures means fewer people in homes… means fewer households for Chron delivery drivers to dump papers on lawns of non-subscribers… means lower circulation numbers… means plunging advertising revenues.

    Follow the numbers.

  11. wfish on April 3rd, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    T-Hawk
    You are exactly right. Chronicle = Democrat. ’nuff said.

  12. trl3 on April 3rd, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    Basically this is asking the taxpayers to bail out stupid people.

  13. Maltboy! on April 3rd, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    bob42
    They both benefit. Democrats love it because they get more government, and Republicans love it because they get more corporate welfare. Combine this with an election and the result is a perfect storm, and when it’s over, they get the gold mine and we get the shaft.

  14. Maltboy! on April 3rd, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    trl3 - Don’t forget the big corporations who lent them the money thinking they would make a killing when the interest rate balooned.

  15. dowjones4k on April 3rd, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    anyone want some bear sterns paper?

    the government has some for sale 29 billion worth.

  16. Katfish on April 3rd, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    Er………..uh……….um…………the Comical has MASSIVE print capability - why don’t THEY print us all up some cash? (makes as much sense)

  17. Maltboy! on April 3rd, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    dow - They’re putting it on rolls because it’s cheaper than TP.

  18. T-Hawkk on April 3rd, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    maltboy - Bush ain’t no genius, either. You think I like him much??

    But democrats are the definition of stupid.

    Republicans are only half-stupid.

  19. trl3 on April 3rd, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    maltboy

    I do not want to bail out the big corporations either, but the government is doing what they are doing claiming to help out the small guy.

    No corporation every held a gun to the head of any home buyer and forced them to buy more than they afford and to put it of an adjustable rate knowing that if the market turned they could never afford to pay the note.

  20. Maltboy! on April 3rd, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    trl3 - My point is that both sides share the blame and therefore should bear the brunt. The government can claim what they want, but I seriously doubt the Republicans would be interested in bailouts if there wasn’t something in this for the corporations who line their pockets.

    It’s nothing but a bipartisan feeding frenzy disguised as “relief”, and it’s our pantry that’s being robbed bare.

  21. Maltboy! on April 3rd, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    We need to do the same thing we did when the Republicans tried to ram amnesty down our throats. We need to bombard Washington with protests over this shameless pork barrel spending.

  22. Rastus on April 3rd, 2008 at 2:36 pm

    Mr. T-Hawk - I’m not trying to be argumentative, but the Dims are anything but stupid. They know exactly what they are doing, and they know the results. The stupid ones are the people who believe that this crap is good for everyone and who encourage them to implement it.

  23. phil on April 3rd, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    Makes me want to say….Lemon Curry?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3KBuQHHKx0

  24. tedtam on April 3rd, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    If I could only be smart enough to work at the chronicle. But I’d have to dispose of 1/2 of my IQ to be eligible for a position there.

  25. american woman on April 3rd, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    The irony of this is, the person who budgets, lives within his means, pays his bills, including his mortgage, is totally ignored, except for needing more tax dollars to bail out the other folks. I just want to throw up my hands! Wouldn’t we all like to live in a $225,000 home with pool, game room, theater,etc. Well we don’t, and we don’t try to figure out some cheating way to get one. We live as we can handle.

  26. AZ on April 3rd, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    I read an article in Money mag. about a single 35 year old who makes $70,000 gross working for the LA School District, she put 5% down on a $700,000 duplex with a 50 year mortage and the first five years was interest only. She was in the house for six months and was already concerned
    about making the paymenst and was seeking advice.

  27. dcgirl on April 3rd, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    #26 AZ - the artificial inflation of the homes, especially on the coasts, makes it impossible for middle class, even upper middle class, to afford a decent house of a decent size. And I am not talking about a McMansion either. I like to watch “Designed to Sell” and they are constantly showing houses built in the 50s, with less than 1400 square feet in California selling in the 500K to 600K range. It is ridiculous. Having these homes foreclosed on (and face it, many didn’t even put a down payment and with interest only they are not losing any equity) will bring these outrageous prices down to where people who want to pay their bills and have a regular mortgage can actually afford them. But that would hurt the realtor business and the tax man.

  28. An Observer on April 3rd, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    If someone wants to have affordable housing, the mortgage calculation needs to change. I understand that the mortgage holders need to be rewarded for taking the risks they take, but hey, do they really deserve X% for every month of unpaid balance? Does a buyer really need to pay a half a million dollars for a $200,000 dollars house? How about a different approach so that it doesn’t require thirty years to pay off a property.

  29. AZ on April 3rd, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    27 I agree, because they are giving out these loans they are inflating the prices, a dog chasing its own tail.

    New Jersey was really bad when we moved here in 1986, we paid $11,000 for 1.5 acres near Chester NY, sold it 13 months later for $33,000.

    We were offered more, but we gave it to a young couple who could not afford more and were expecting their first baby.

    Crazy upward prices are no good for anyone.

  30. Matt Bramanti on April 3rd, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    I understand that the mortgage holders need to be rewarded for taking the risks they take, but hey, do they really deserve X% for every month of unpaid balance?

    Do you really deserve interest on that bank CD you have? I mean, you’re not using the money…it’s just sitting there, collecting dust. :)

    If anything, the interest rates have been too low to justify the risk. If you don’t want to pay your house off over 30 years, the answer is very simple: don’t! Get a 15-year note. Or double up on your payments.

    One extra payment per year will wipe out a 30-year mortgage in only 24 years.

  31. AZ on April 3rd, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    Do not forget there are many in the entertainment, internet, farming, etc. businesses in Calif. who will lose millions if real estate prices sink. And these people bankroll the politicians who vote for the bailouts.

    Of course they are only concerned with the “little guy” being helped.

  32. An Observer on April 3rd, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    Matt, do you get 5 or 6% per month on your savings, I don’t. And it’s very presumptive of you to assume that anyone even has a savings account that amounts to much.

  33. mrygill2 on April 3rd, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Oh, c’mon, Observer!

    Anybody who passed Econ. 101 knows that the delta between the interest you get on that CD and the interest the bank charges a homeowner for a mortgage is eaten up by federal regulations, bookkeeping, salaries, rent & maintenance on the bank building, etc.

  34. mrygill2 on April 3rd, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    Regarding Bramanti’s comment that the rates are too low to justify the bank’s risk on a 30 year loan, he’s right.

    A local school district is trying to sell 30-year bonds at 5%. No takers.

  35. Matt Bramanti on April 4th, 2008 at 9:08 am

    Matt, do you get 5 or 6% per month on your savings, I don’t.

    No…I get about 3.5% (Amegy’s money market). Then again, I’m not taking much risk.

    It sure as hell isn’t as risky as lending it to some knucklehead to buy a house.

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