Dan Patrick eats fried pickles
by David Benzion · 05/06/2008 5:28 pmAs mentioned by Dan Patrick, the infamous pic.
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Thanks for reminding me why John Whitmire is the biggest prick in Texas politics.
I’ll still vote for Dan hands down but i would like it if he avoids the Hooter restaurant chains; even if they do have great fried pickles.
Why should Dan need to avoid Hooters? I go there myself. If the reason was because of the uniform I would just go to the beach or the lake where I could see women running around with about 10 percent of what the Hooter girls wear.
I have friend there, I can watch the game, and yes I do like the food. And yes I do look at the young ladies, I am not dead.
Scandalous indeed.
#3 You don’t have to go to the beach anymore - just go to the mall. Hooter’s girls dress like the FLDS sect women in comparison to some of the hoochies I’ve seen walking around the Galleria.
The women at Hooter’s are making a good, honest living.
A few years ago I read in some publication that Hooter’s was voted as one of the best places for a single mom to work. They accommodate scheduling for appointments, etc. (sorry, can’t find the article).
As for the uniform, I’ve seen better, but compared to a lot of things, *yawn*, who cares…
#3
Notice you marked your standard according to what’s worse in public than Hooters? Likewise, if you have not bathed in a week would you point to a trash dump to justify how much you stink? Compared to rotten food and poopy diapers (which I have plenty of to dispose with) you’d smell quite nicely, no?
I would suggest you decide what your standards are and live by them. On that account, decide based on what you think God wants you to live by. Do so prayerfully. By doing so I think you’ll find how not looking at youg ladies does not in any way mean you’re dead, and you’ll find yourself bonding with your friends just as much someplace else while watching the game. Personally, I don’t even want to go to Splashtown anymore. Too much flesh, crotch hairs, and teenagers playfully trying to take the others’ swimsuites off.
Raiderdav makes a good point in pointing out how mainstream dress is going to pot. Going to Hooters and spending your money on a superficial means to feel alive by watching women scantedly dressed will only foster erroding standards.
Dan’s a great guy indeed, no question about that; just stay away from the hoochie mommas please.
You would sure see alot more having a burger down at Galveston or Surfside.
Benzene, Thanks! After hearing Dan talk about this today I was going to Google it to see if I could find the scandalous picture, seems like I remember it from a while back, but couldn’t remember what it was like.
As a Side-Bar, I’ve never been to a Hooters, I have nothing against them but I was Married with Children after they showed up, so I usually went with the Wife to a Nice place or something more affordable with the Family. I personally think that’s it great that the owners don’t care about the Feminazi’s take on this, after all, it’s just for fun and Guys are ANIMALS anyway! Of course my Boy has been there many times, they have free Buffalo Wings for bikers on Sunday.
1 cup buttermilk
2 eggs
2 cups all-purpose flour
Salt, to taste
Freshly ground black pepper, to taste
Canola oil, for frying (about 10 cups for a 4-quart Dutch oven)
4 large kosher dill pickles, sliced thin on the diagonal
Mix the buttermilk and eggs together in one bowl, and the flour, salt, and pepper in another.
Heat 2 to 3 inches of oil in a Dutch oven until it reaches 325 to 350 degrees on a deep-fry thermometer.
Line a baking sheet with a brown paper bag or paper towels.
Dip the pickle slices in the buttermilk mixture and then into the seasoned flour. Using tongs, drop the coated pickles, one by one, into the hot oil; fry about 2 pickles worth of slices in each batch. Be sure to regulate the heat so that the oil stays between 325 and 350 degrees.
When the pickles are a light golden color (this should take 7 to 9 minutes), remove them with tongs or a slotted spoon and drain them on the prepared baking sheet. Repeat with the remaining pickles.
Sprinkle a little salt on them (remember, pickles are pretty salty) and serve as you would French fries.
#5 Ree-C Murphey, You are SOO right! My baby girl started working as a Hostess at Chili’s when she was 16, became a waitress when she was 18. In her Junior/Senior years, she was an Officer in FFA raised 2 pigs 4 rabbits and a turkey, was a Dairy cattle judge, went to the State and Nat’l Convention (Fort Worth and Louisville KY). She went to San Jack for a few months then to Brenham to Blinn College then to Blinn in College Station and now she’s going to A&M, her last final is tomorrow. When she moved to College Station she went to work for Cheddars, first as a Waitress and now she has been a Bar Tender for about 9 months. All the while keeping a 3.8 to 4.0 GPA! To make a short story long, and Dang I did that, after she moved away, I paid her car insurance and all of her school but she was on her own! She makes Dang good money for not too many hours. Of course, it helps that she is a gorgeous, Blue Eyed Blond. She’s paid her own way the whole time! Starting in January, she started a full load @ A&M and I’ve sent her about $300 a month to help out because the Edu-macation is more important than working. She’s down to 3 shifts a week now.
BTW; She gets those good looks from her Mother! I married WAY above my pay grade! ;=)
Oh c’mon, going to Hooters is like going to church.
Someone said they heard Dan say “THANK YOU JESUS!”
I must agree with Darren #6…Hooters disgusts me. Just because we all know what you men think about all the time doesn’t mean we should encourage you to gawk.
Nice comment Darren10, as usual. But…sorry to say, standards have been lowered so far that few have any idea that they could be higher without any repercussions. You’d think that conservatives would still think about some sort of standard but…not gonna happen. The path we are on is one way. After all, if you can make a buck, who cares how you do it? Right?
BigJolly # 13;
Unfortunately you may be right about the one-way road we are following as a society. But I thoroughly disagree with the “not gonna happen” remark. That denies the fundamental core of Christianity, particularaly the atoning blood Christ offered for mankind. We can always becme better. Don’t accept anything else.
headshaker # 11;
After reading the very lewd comments you allow for entertainment on your own website I can see why you think Hooters is church. Truth is nothing can be further from the truth. I sure hope Dan would not shout praises to Jesus for man providing sleeze.
Darren10, you (or I) could fundamentally deny it all day long but it won’t make it reality.
Look at what the church has become. True enough, individuals can and do change. But sadly, our culture and society will not.
#15 Darren10,
LOL, Shakey is just the tip of the iceberg. At least he’s honest.
I see people daily talking about faith out of one side of their mouth and then commenting as you’ve seen and joining the vulgarity. Sad.
Bigjolly #16;
I think one thing you and I can agree on is that society won’t change until they hit rock bottom and essentially become compelled to change for the better. but even then it would be hard to tell if it’s a genuine change or something “just for the moment”. In the meantime I will make my voice known as to what the best course I think our country should take.
Always make your voice known, Darren10. It’s the only chance we have.
Back to the radio story…Some guy said something on the radio this afternoon about how Obama didn’t hold his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance because he didn’t want to be perceived as picking one country over the other. Dan extended the courtesy from one public figure to another to note that a split second photo can often be taken out of context and then offered his own personal story about Hooters-gate to explain his point.
Pretty cordial in my opinion.
Furthermore…Obama never said that he was trying to stay neutral by not crossing his heart and Dan sniffed it right away.
Might be time for a podcast, no?
Darren, so you never go to the beach?
And you never look twice at a girl walking?
Meglet, you’ve never worn a bikini to the beach?
I see a pic of Dan and his son and future daughter in law having dinner in a restaurent. I’ve also seen a girl’s knickers while eating dinner with my parents at the old San Francisco Steakhouse - remember the girl in the swing.
Dan is a Christian man. You may recall Jesus (and NO, I am not comparing Dan to Jesus) spent most of his time amongst those with far lower moral values then He had. So if you saw Jesus in Hooters, would you condemn Him?
Big45Iron;
Like trl3, you are using lower sleeze to justify sleeze. Like trl3, i suggest for you to prayerfully decide what your standards are and live by them. Don’t justify substandards just because others make substandard choices. Have I looked twice at a girl? Yes. Should have I? No. Do I reprimand myself for it? Yes. Have I improved on it? Absolutely yes. Have I ever paid to be entertained by sleeze and for the sake of being entertained by sleeze? NEVER. Should Dan? NEVER.
Did Jesus ever seek to eat fried pickles by a woman dressed like a skank and does so because that’s her job? Not that I recall. Did Dan perform a miracle at Hooters to help souls understand who Jesus is? I hope so but I have not heard of any. The very reason Jesus went to places was to preach and teach His gospel. Was that Dan’s purpose? I doubt it. He wanted to eat and so chose a place where the female worker’s job is to provoke sexual arousal.
As for the beech:
Did you read my cmment on Splashtown above?
From comment #6
Yes, I do go to the beech. Do I chose a beech whose mission is to sexually excite its patrons. Nope. I also go to the shopping mall and just because I see teenagers (male and female) dressed like hos does not mean I would support attending a restaurant that promotes teenage sexual promiscuity. Just because I see very young girs dressed in bikinis does not mean I support Disney advertising itself be displaying a young girl lying down in a bikini.
But why is that display up an running in China? Because people have eroded their standards. I think they have done so in part because instead of looking up for their standards, they look down toawrds even worse trash and filth and slowly but steadily accept a lower and lower standard to live by.
BigIron, would this public pic have been acceptable in your parent’s or even grandparent’s generation? Not in a second. So why now?
If *you* met Jesus in Hooters, how would *you* feel? What would be the thoughts and intent in your mind and heart just before meeting Him there? I’d venture to say quite different than if you were studying the Bible and met Jesus.
If the waitress dressed like a prostitue saw Jesus there, how would she feel?
For the record (because I spoke directly with Dan when this pic first made the rounds of the blogosphere)– Dan had originally scheduled to meet his son and future daughter-in-law at a restaurant to watch a play-off game, but when they arrived they were told there would be something like a 90 minute wait.
Dan, his son, and his future daughter-in-law stood on the street corner and looked around for what was in the area; future-daughter-in-law suggested Hooters ’cause she liked their fried pickles, they had plenty of TV’s, and tables were available.
Just providing facts…
Also, let me be clear, Jesus wouldn’t get caught in a Hooters if for no other reason than Jesus kept kosher.
I am reminded of my long-term plan to convince wide-swaths of the Gentile American public to start eating kosher meat (to make it easier for Jews who keep kosher to find dining alternatives).
My proposed marketing campaign commercial is as follows–
TYPICAL SUBURBAN PROTESTANT WHITE COUPLE SITTING IN LIVING ROOM; WOMAN SEWS, MAN READS PAPER, TV IS ON.
THE DOORBELL RINGS.
WOMAN GOES TO DOOR, OPENS IT.
JESUS IS STANDING ON THE FRONT PORCH; ANGELIC MUSIC PLAYS IN THE BACKGROUND. THE CLEAR IMPLICATION IS THAT THE MESSIAH HAS RETURNED.
“Won’t you please come in?” says the man, in awe.
“Yes, have a seat,” continues the woman, “we were just about ready for Sunday dinner.”
“Hmm,” Jesus says, “sounds good; what are you having?”
CLOSE-UP OF HUSBAND AND WIFE, FACES ASHEN, UNABLE TO SPEAK.
CUT TO GIGANTIC PORK ROAST SITTING ON DINING ROOM TABLE.
WORDS FLASH ON SCREEN–
“What would Jesus eat?”
“Benzion’s Kosher Cuts of Meat, available at stores everywhere!”
“Don’t get caught unprepared!”
END SCENE
#25
Well I guess TV and fried pickles is what’s important.
I recall this story when Dan explained it and even then I could not help but to determine that another restaurant would have suited fine. Perhaps not as good fried pickles but better-dressed waitresses. But hey, fried pickles is what we should all seek in life.
Let me reiterate that I’d vote for Dan again in a heartbeat and I’ve abolutely not doubt he’s a good man… and apparently not a McDonalds man neither.
# 26,
Funny but Jesus fulfilled the Law of Moses. No more kosher meat needed.
#26: I had a Ruben at Katz’s today. Do I get points?
(1) McDonalds doesn’t have TVs on which to watch the playoffs.
(2) Future daughter-in-law didn’t want to go to McDonalds.
Look, I’ll concede the point that Hooters is far from an “ideal” dining spot for a person of traditional faith.
That said, I (and I’m going to step up and speak for the vast majority of Jews, including very traditional and “Orthodox” ones) can make rational distinctions between degrees of sin.
This one doesn’t peg real high on my meter of concern.
#28 Darren10– I’m (genuinely) glad you’ve found such peace in your faith… but trust me, when the Messiah comes for the first time, you’re going to wish you had some Hebrew National salami in the fridge.
Hooters is a crappy place with mediocre to bad food. I’ve been in a few because I had clients or vebdors who insisted I meet them there for lunch. Frankly, I don’t think anyone I was with or, for that matter, most anyone in the restaurant paid much attention to the girls. I think the whole Hooter’s thing is much ado about nothing. I’ve been in any number of much more upscale restaurants in which the female waitstaff was more modestly dressed and yet much more provocative.
To accuse Hooter’s of being some sort of den of iniquity is a little silly, in my opinion. The late teenage and college-aged girls in the small town I live in walk around all summer in more suggestive clothing than do the waitresses at Hooter’s. Thirty years ago, the stewardesses on Southwest Airlines wore outfits that would make Hooter’s blush.
I would also like to point out Hooter’s was also very supportive of Dan and KSEV all those years he raised money for the T.H.Rogers in Houston. They always provided their retaurant at Westheimer and Gessner for his fundraisers and I always showed up to donate. If Dan feels a little loyalty for past favors, then so be it.
#29 ST– yes
#31
Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind.
So that I don’t get accused of discrimination (although I really do like writing against ANY Dimwit), here is my “Top Ten” list of captions for this OLD picture:
1) We’re just here to watch the “Boob” tube!!
2) Do you sell beer in “jugs”??
3) Sir, that’s not on the menu!!
4) Boy, I didn’t see that on the menu!!
5) Where were you when I was in the restaurant business??
6) Miss, can I get your two votes??
7) You would be a waste in the radio business.
9) Miss, do you deliver??
10) Yeah?? We just came in here for the fried pickles!!
I hope everyone enjoys these??
#31 DB
The bratwurst is excellent and the Hebrew National mustard is superior to all others. Must have rations for the Rapture, I would think.
Textpat #32
#36
No doubt. I’m of the mindset that the better a people eats, the happier they are. Orthodox Jews must ride high on the happy-o-meter.
#35
Very funny.
#37 Darren10
I’m not going to join you in condemning Hooter’s, or Dan Patrick, because I really don’t believe girls serving greasy chicken wings and flat beer in shorts and tube tops will be the end of civilization as we know it. Nor do I think the beaches of Galveston overrun with scantily clad girls is the ironclad sign of the Apocalypse. I am offended by the continual reduction of civil behavior, etiquette, manners and proper conduct among our species. I am as alarmed as you are at the prospect of the future.
I was snowed in this past winter and ended up watching a series of melodramatic 1920s silent movies on television. The erotic and sensual suggestiveness of the actresses was nothing short of amazing. Without benefit of sound, these actors had to convey their feelings and emotions purely through visual motions and gesture. They were, to say the least, also restricted by the standards of the day and obviously could only use the most subtle and sublime devices to communicate their feelings. The costumes, the skirts, the gowns and all the acceptable clothing of that day was subsequently scorned in the 30s, 40s and 50s.
Human sexuality was not just discovered by the twentysomethings of today and yet, it will be re-discovered by all the following generations to come. I am not as pessimistic as are you nor am I as optimistic as many. Every generation thinks they are the first on earth to find out about this incredible thing we call….sex.
I also have no idea why there are not 300 pound women working at Hooters other than, as in most restaurants, there are serious and valid reasons to not hire extremely obese employees in the service industry. Regarding sleaze, oh, I don’t know how many hundreds of things I would consider far more detrimental to our society and moral fabric than the stupid outfits the waitresses wear at dives like Hooter’s.
Gahhhhh I hate work…I don’t know if you will see it or not but guess what BigIron—I HAVE NEVER WORN A BIKINI IN MY LIFE. Not to the beach, not in my backyard. NEVER. And I do not think Jesus would be in Hooters so very sorry. Yes he spent time with the lowest of the low but I believe it was generally outside or at homes, not in places designed for men to enjoy something He considers sin. (I am not going to judge you if you want to eat at Hooters but for myself yes I think it is wrong for a Christian to be going places like that) We try very hard to help my brothers protect their eyes by fast-forwarding movies for them or not watching them at all and telling them when to look at the ground while we walk and when it is okay to look up. We also avoid Splashtown and public swimming areas. From time to time we have gone to a quiet beach as a family but if too many bikinis get too close we leave. It’s just the way we do things.
Am I going to look down my nose at you for going to such a place? Probably not, it is your business and between you and God. Am I going to immediately campaign against Dan Patrick because he was in Hooters? Again no. But I’d prefer you not to scorn me for my beliefs.
Oh and in case you are curious about my apparel at the beach…I went with some girlfriends a couple of weeks ago and wore a swimsuit with a tanktop underneath and some bermuda length shorts.
Oh come on now Meg. i’ve never been in a Hooters in my life either. Nor have I ever worn a bikini anywhere. But you don’t know anything about where Jesus went other than what the scriptures say. Anything else is pure conjecture.
It does appear though that had Darren seen Jesus in a Hooters, Darren would have felt qualified to look down his nose at Jesus. That’s a bit arrogant on your part Darren. Wouldn’t you have at least asked him what he was doing there? Or should you not assume that Jesus Christ, the Son of God who died for our sins and was Himself without sin would have had a great reason for being there? Even if it was to eat fried pickles and watch the game! Who in the heck made you god the father?
Darren10 lighten up…your moral high ground, or better still, relativism is a bit far-reaching
Gee, I didn’t realize that God created Adam and Eve fully clothed, and that Eve had small breasts and no booty.
Oh, and I forgot that God did not make woman attractive to man so they would “hook up” (you know, procreate). I guess the Bible doesn’t say anything about that.
Get a life.
As someone who is struggling with finding his spiritual way, It’s people like Darren and Meglet that make me want to run the other way when I hear about Christianity.
Didn’t I read somewhere in the Bible that it aint “kosher” to judge other folks?
In my first date with my now wife of 24yrs (May 26) we stopped at the Starkville’s Sonic, where she ordered fried pickles. First time I even heard of it. She would not even let me pay.
Okay let’s all stop just a second…where did I say I was going to judge anybody??? I simply agreed with Darren that society as a whole is moving too far the wrong direction and one would hope that if you are a Christian you needn’t be told that going to Hooters to gawk at the waitresses is just wrong. AS A CHRISTIAN. If you aren’t a Christian you can do whatever the heck you want.
And yes I do believe Jesus wouldn’t have been in Hooters and nothing you can say will change my mind. So no need to worry about whether or not I’d look down my nose at Him.
Also you are right God made them naked and they didn’t even know it until they disobeyed God and then suddenly they were ASHAMED of being naked and MADE themselves clothes…sorry ones at that so God made them better ones. DO we really need to keep up this dumb debate? This was NEVER anything to do with what I said in agreement with Darren. I still think this is ridiculous for you guys to scorn us for wanting to hold to a higher standard. Someone please show me where I said that all of you were wicked heathen sinners for going to Hooters please?
David:
Thanks for the tip on Kosher for Jesus. (KFJ). Hebrew National Hot Dogs and Cold Cuts are on my shopping list as well as some matzo (I noticed a bunch of kosher food on special display recently at Krogers).
I don’t want to be un-prepared!
Possibly this was a visit to “investigate” a new law banning skimpy outfits?
In politics do not expect ones words to be a forecast of their actions.
What would have Jesus done at a Hooters? Expound the Holy Scriptures and preached that salvation was and now is at hand. Probably might have also eaten something, unless he had chosen to go to a quite place after His teaching session.
But, Jesus would most likley been kicked out of Hooters!
As to Messiah “coming for the first time.” No, Benzion, it will be His second coming.
Psalm 118
21 I will give you thanks, for you answered me;
you have become my salvation. 22 The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone; 23 the LORD has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes.
Isaiah 8
13 The LORD Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are to fear, he is the one you are to dread, 14 and he will be a sanctuary; but for both houses of Israel he will be a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall. And for the people of Jerusalem he will be a trap and a snare.
1 John 2
20But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.[d] 21I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
Isaiah 50
6 I offered my back to those who beat me,
my cheeks to those who pulled out my beard;
I did not hide my face
from mocking and spitting.
7 Because the Sovereign LORD helps me,
I will not be disgraced.
Therefore have I set my face like flint,
and I know I will not be put to shame.
8 He who vindicates me is near.
Who then will bring charges against me?
Let us face each other!
Who is my accuser?
Let him confront me!
9 It is the Sovereign LORD who helps me.
Who is he that will condemn me?
They will all wear out like a garment;
the moths will eat them up.
10 Who among you fears the LORD
and obeys the word of his servant?
Let him who walks in the dark,
who has no light,
trust in the name of the LORD
and rely on his God.
11 But now, all you who light fires
and provide yourselves with flaming torches,
go, walk in the light of your fires
and of the torches you have set ablaze.
This is what you shall receive from my hand:
You will lie down in torment.
Jaime–we’ll see.
Hopefully, soon.
BigIron # 43
Did you read my questions to you in post 24? I ask only that you judge yourself.
The only judgement I’ve passed on here is that Dan should not go to Hooters, that Hooters itself is inappropriate, and that Dan’s the man, hands down, for election/reelection. In fact if whomever is stupid enough to run against Dan in ‘09 and pulls out this photo, I’ll just laugh and think “whatever” and proudly go to the booth and pull the lever for Dan. So who’s judging who here?
headshaker #45
Thanks for speaking about Mother Eve (mother of us all) in sleezy terms. Shows the affect of the trash you entertain on your own website.
#55 Darren
Here’s a newsflash: there is no Mother Eve, Adam, or the Garden of Eden, at least not the way it was described in the Bible. Those are just stories that existed for thousands of years before the Bible was even written, handed down from many other cultures to give us guidance.
God created the world, but not like that.
#56 Shakey newsflash–not everyone shares the same beliefs.
#57 Meg
Exactly. We all have our own opinions about our faith. Darren and you expressed your opinions and I respect both of you (and agree that society is going down the drain morally). I’m merely expressing mine.
Thanks.
I really don’t know what else to say than God speed on your sojourn towards spirituality. What ever is the “other way”, seek out what you think and feel is right and follow it.
headshaker # 56
Cool.
sdhook #51;
That would actually work if society colectively accepts it. If not, than it won’t.
headshaker
How was the world created and how did the first human get here?
LOL;
We’re having theological discussion from a Hooters visit. How exciting.
Darren, WHEVER JESUS chose to be, it sure as heck would be beyond me to judge Him for ANYTHING, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME. And it sure wouldn’t be for you to either.
Adam to God : God, why did you make Eve so beautiful?
God: So you’d like her.
Adam: But then why’d you make her so dumb?
God: So she’d like you!
Darren,
I don’t begin to know how God created the world and the first humans got here, but I don’t believe it happened precisely the way it is described in Genesis.
I’ve often wondered….If Adam and Eve had two sons (Cain and Able) where did everyone else come from? Who begot who?
#53 Yes, we will see. I also hope that it will be soon. But in His time so that many more may be saved.
It is a good thing too, that my understanding on eschatology is not Hegee’s version (hyper-dispensionalism). Otherwise, you would not say “hopefully, soon.”
Sorry, it is Hagee, the “pastor” who says that Jesus did not claim to be the Messiah because he was not the Messiah. A false teacher who would be at home with those who worship the brazen serpent.
BigIron #64
Your declaration that I’d judge Jesus is a completely self-imposed assumption as with the idea that he’d be a Hooters in the first place. I only ask you judge yourself. Please reread my questions to you in post 24 and answer if you so desire.
Darren,
I don’t begin to know how God created the world and the first humans got here, but I don’t believe it happened precisely the way it is described in Genesis.
So much for your newsflash based on your absolute knowledge that the account in Genesis is wrong.
BTW, I don’t use the Bible to learn how God created the earth and Adam and Eve; rather I use it to learn why He created all things. how He did it, i don’t think anybody knows for sure. likewise, nobody knows for sure that the account in Genesis is scientifically erroneous. One thing I do hold for absolute truth though. That the first human male, known as Adam in the Bible, and the first human female, known as Eve in the Bible, were both divinely created by a divine being and for divine purposes. No other of God’s creations hold the title as God’s children. Humans do that exclusively against all other things God created, which are infinite. That shows me the power of our existence and the reason to seek God’s will and follow it. There we’ll find true peace and happiness. So it’s imparetively important that we make god moral choices.
hefitz #67
Tis why geneological work will never end, eh?
headshaker;
I butchered my last post to you. Read #71
Genesis focused on the account of Abel and Cain but that does not imply that there were no other siblings -
Genesis 5:3 When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. 4 After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.
Prohibition against sibling marriage not until Mosaic law -
Leviticus 18:6 No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD.
Read the list of restrictions here:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=leviticus%2018;&version=31;
Abraham married to a half-sister -
Genesis 20
11 And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife’s sake. 12 And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
Maltboy #65
LOl, that was funny. Though I see Eve as more insightful than Adam.
Jaime # 74
Good reply.
Darren, it’s also a presumption on your part that any oogling of scantily clad waitresses was going on by Dan and his son. Additionally, Dan’s wife is gorgeous, so he has no need to oogle anyway. And as David pointed out, they went there at the request of his son’s fiance to get food and beverage and watch the game.
Darren, I’d bet you would not have been too impressed with Jesus making an alcoholic beverage for a wedding party as His first miracle. It did say wine (the best), not grape juice.
“Just because you’re on a diet doesn’t mean you can’t look at the menu.”
Matthew 5
17″Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
(holy snip)
27″You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’[e] 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
1) I never said Dan oogled there, just that he should not be there. The place of Hooters, heck, the very name “Hooters” invites oogling. That’s the very purpose of the name as well as dressing the waitresses up to look like prostitutes. I would ask that Dan avoids the very temptation of oogling. That’s all. And just because he has a gorgeous wife does not mean he has and less reason to oogle, nieither does that, by implication, mean that men wife “ugly’ wives have and more reason to oogle.
2) When the scriptures says Jesus made wine for the wedding, I belive he made wine, the alcoholic kind. When Noah, described as a very upright man in the old Testament got drunk, I believe he got drunk from alcoholic drink. None of this bothers me. Why should it?
headshaker #78
Jaime beat me to this so use his post as a “cheat sheet”
Fill in the blank: (I’m quoting by memory)
“Very, very, I say unto you, he who has looked upon a woman and lusted after her in his heart has already committed _____________________”
Darren #81, reminds me of a good joke:
A married Irishman went into the confessional and said to his priest,”I almost had an affair with another woman.”
The priest said, “What do you mean, almost?”
The Irishman said, “Well, we got undressed and rubbed together, but then I stopped.”
The priest said, “Rubbing together is the same as putting it in. You’re not to see that woman again. For your penance, say five Hail Mary’s and put $50 in the poor box.”
The Irishman left the confessional, said his prayers, and then walked over to the poor box. He paused for a moment and then started to leave.
The priest, who was watching, quickly ran over to him saying, “I saw that. You didn’t put any money in the poor box!”
The Irishman replied, “Yeah, but I rubbed the $50 on the box, and according to you, that’s the same as putting it in!”
Bwaaaaaaaaaaa hahahahahahahahahahah
So Dan can Google but he can’t oogle?
How about Snoogling?
#82
LOL.
But neither do I see it as the same thing. but lusting in your heart is ungodly and will lead to misery. It’s better to avoid the temptation.
And by not accepting that teaching, aren’t you judging Jesus?
headshaker #84
Great advice, but hard to follow in today’s world since we’re inundated with it. Not making excuses, just stating a fact. But you’re right.
I hooked up with woman I met while protesting the degradation of women practiced at Hooters. Guess which one of these I went home with.
Give a Hoot
The one holding the sign?
I’m the one HOLDING the sign!
All in favor of taking up a collection for FourAlarm to get a makeover, say AYE!
AYE!
Whoo hoo Darren #85 you finally said it the way I meant it.
So now we all understand each other right? I meant no offense to anybody who enjoys eating at Hooters, I just think if I caught MY hubby in there I would be greatly disgusted with him for PLACING himself in a spot like that.
#91 Four Alarm
Do you have a pic showing your Hooters? That darned sign is in the way!
Until 10 years ago, I didn’t even know Hooters was a restaurant. I thought it was a strip club. I’d rather go to Pappadeaux’ anyway.
Only Dan has what it takes to inspire leadership.
headshaker #87
I agree it is difficult but also unequivically say it’s not impossible. Lusting is highly addictive and may lead to life-long problems overcoming it; but never impossible.
As for why it’s hard not to today, do you not think it is because many people accept lowering social standards? Like comparing going to Hooters to going to church?
FourAlarm;
Are you male of female?
Either way, your take on the Hooters situation causes me to reevaluate my #37 post where I agreed with texpat in that “to accuse Hooter’s of being some sort of den of iniquity is a little silly, in my opinion.” (#32).
I mean, standing outside a Baptist church doesn’t exactly produce the results of taking a girl home with you (male or female). (Puke, barf, and YUCK!!!)
I’ve ye to see a picture posted here of a Hooters girl, via FourAlarm or LST who did not have any noticable dimples on her thighs. Why is that?
Darren, you don’t know me very well at all. Religious discussions at LST and my place go back a long way and have been very “deep”.
I appreciate your thoughts. Except for a few points of contention, I think we’re a lot closer on most of those thoughts than you might believe.
Darren, how far do you want to go? Put all women in a burkha, or have them dress like the women from the compound in West Texas? Who gets to decide what is appropriate, and what is inappropriate?
Men are going to look at women, men are going to lust after women, and vice versa. Doesn’t mean we have to act like animals in public. And without some lust/oogling, think the human species would become extinct in 120 years. I hope you’re not going to tell me up until the moment you got married you didn’t some less than pure thoughts about life.
And I find it deeply disturbing that for several days now, Shakey has been agreeing with me on things. Somebody please check his IP and find out if it’s really him or some poser.
#102 Bigs
It took me a few years, but I finally got you to see the light.
Bwahahahahahahaha
Oh wait. You were serious?
#104 Squawktigator
LOL - notice I put “deep” in parentheses!
#98 Darren10
I’m whatever people pay me to be. I really don’t like staring but I will peek at myself when I get into the shower later.
Yes, BigIron, you’re on to me. I want all women in a burka or dress like pilgrims. You caught me red handed.
Please Iron, spare me the the hyperbolic conclusions already.
Burka? No
Pilgrim dress? No.
But if women want to dress that way, fine with me.
Decent? Yes.
Besides, perhaps, not wanting to get ruler-slapped on the knockles for bad behavior, why would FourAlarm go home with a Hooter girl and not, let’s say, a nun? Does not the dress atire between a Hooter girl and a nun provoke different emotions?
Of course I’ve had impure thoghts during life. I still do. But you don’t entertain them. you think of something else. You do something else. And going to Hooters is not going to help that at all. Rather, it will foster the impure thoughts/desires.
Once again I see, through your latest post to me, how people use sleeze to justify sleeze. Stop looking to the sewer to justify rotten food in our mist. Look upward where, except for Beijing and los Angeles, the sky is clear and your true potential is shown (limitless). I find yourself very content to degrade me and from that I infere yourself as well for the sake of justifying substandard activity.
headshaker #100;
I don’t know you except for your justification and praise to Jesus for slutty niformed women. I also know you of going to patgray.com and berate him for condemning the New Jersey governor for paying for a prostitute service. There you quoted the Biblbe and there you said I don’t know you well and invited me to your website. Well, i went there and the first thread there was about how you owned Pat Gray and all your homies agreed. I also continued to read through that thread to find a joke about how two guys got drunk while bar hopping and performed acts of oral sex with each other. I also saw the word “pen*s’ written for absolutely no reason. And that was from one thread and only a small fraction of all the posts in it.
You had good religious threads and I did appreciate those.
So that’s what I know about you.
I’m sure we have tons in common but I have not seen much of it.
Gawduhhhhhh I love a good Hooters controvery.
I could rant but the PRUDES among us make me nuts. So I will move along.
Man I got one question for you. Do you have a guide dog and walk around blindfolded? If you consider the Hooter’s wait staff wearing slutty uniforms you gotta be gouging your eyes out just to walk in freaking Walmart or Target.
I posted this when that pic was made public for the first time.
http://lonestartimes.com/2007/05/11/cow%e2%84%a2-9/#comments
When Hooters came to Houston they advertised as a family friendly joint. One day, we were in the vicinity of the new Hooters, on 45 Gulf Freeway, and looking for a place to eat. My wife and my 2 children (3yrs and 1.5 yrs at the time) were with me. I did not know anything about Hooters and we went to try it. To sum up the type of place it is I quote my wife: who wants to eat in a place where you can see moley breasts, gross.
Being in Hooters is of very low concerns but …
Hooters marketing and theme IS the girls in scantly clad clothes. That is way different than going to the mall or to the grocery store or the beach.
I wonder what his preacher thinks about it. Do you you think that Ed Young would join Dan at Hooters for lunch?
Darren, the only reason I posted that thread about Pat was in response to a pic posted first on his blog saying he owned me.
My blog is pretty much wide open, although we do moderate certain things offensive to women.
And rest assured, there are very legitimate reasons why the word “p***s” is so prevalent there. Why you ask? Because most of us there are “pr**ks”
Darren10 #108:
Of course I’ve had impure thoghts during life. I still do. But you don’t entertain them. you think of something else. You do something else. And going to Hooters is not going to help that at all. Rather, it will foster the impure thoughts/desires.
Darren, wait until you’re pushing 60. You’ll be able to go anyplace and not worry about having an impure thought.
Cheryl Johnson -hubba hubba - could dress as a nun, and I’d bet she’d still get some less than wholesome thoughts from guys.
By the way, nobody else chastised Benzion the other days for violating the LST hubba hubba rule.
What the H
TERS girls need is more cowbell.
The name on this will now be changed to “The Thread That Wouldn’t Die!”.
Squawk, I can’t open the link. Does it feature Smacktle?
Nope. Remember all the Cowbell humor from the old days?
Yes Squawk, but I thought that was mostly Smack’s domain.
Oh yeah I forgot about Smackfuzz and that damn cowbell.
Yeah, that was Thinker’s post.
And such a beautiful mind set you have. And such an optomistic view of people (males) you have as well. Agaih, I see why Hoters is church to you.
Oh, I’ll get there sure enough. Just one year at a time. And thanks for the heads up.
What hubba hubba rule are you talking about?
Darren
What do I think and feel?
1. What is the special
2. Do I want tea or coffee
Unlike you I JUST live in this world and with age and wisdom have learned to take things as they are. Those ladies are waitresses earning a living, nothing more.
You sir are the one with the problem. So do not sweat yourself about my foibles.
I’m not sure where the rule came from, but any mention of Cheryl Johnson - hubba hubba - requires an automatic application of the words hubba hubba next to her hame.
No requirement though in the case of Paul Bettencourt.
Darren,
FYI, I’ve only been to Hooters once or twice in my life, and the last time was with my wife.
I see more at the mall.
I want to be pure like you someday. Pure as freshly fallen snow.
In case you have never seen snow, you see, it’s white ans sparkly.
Am I the one with the problem or you the one complacent?
Big iron;
And Paul Bettencourt is one hot tamale as well. With a good, heartfelt laugh to compliment his good looks.
Darren
Complacent about what? It is not your job or my job to run around pointing out the ills of the world. The Master did not not set me free to worry bout all that.
As the word says, you would strain a gnat all the while choking on a camel.
Good night Darren. Little immature boys like you bore me. There are much greater things in this world for me to spend what little time I have on.
Squawkbox;
Definitey agreed on there’s bigger things. Which, as I posted earlier, is why I’d proudly vote for Dan if his challenger in ‘09 would be stupid enough to try and use his Hooters experience against him.
My original post was to simply say Dan should not be in Hooters. I was challenged on that position and defended it. That’s where the nitpicking came from.
Thanks for calling me a little immature boy. Now I know I must change my ways and become more like you. BTW, isn’t there bigger things in the world to tackle than little immature boys?
If by “Master” you mean Jesus, than if you’d like to comment on post #81, please do.
Buenas noches. Cuidate y que Dios le bendiga usted y a toda la familia suya. (Good night. Take care yourself and may God bless you and al your family). I mean that sincerely.
Re: #81
Ya know what. Again, freedom has its rewards. Go read the works of Paul.
Toodles
squakbox #132
Huh?
D
#133
You can live in the world of legalism all you wish. I prefer not to. Thanks just the same. I would suggest the book of
ACTS
Romans
and the various Churches for further study.
#134
Still have no idea of what you mean. If you mean live by the law and not mercy, than Paul’s really not the man to study. He was saved by grace not doubt. But he worked the works of righteousness all the remainder of his days. He also plainly taught purity and shunning immorality.
I love the teachings of Paul myself. He’s always been my favorite apostle.
#132,134
BTW, I find none of Paul’s teachings that contradict or even nullify any of Christ’s teachings; which is what post #81 cites.
Well, this little immature boy’s off to bed. Got school in the morning.
Take care and God bless.
You have revealed that you are all concerned about religion and legalistic rules by accusing me of complacency.
You fail to understand that Jesus and Paul made the distinctions of living by Grace rather than legalism. It is two separate animals.
i never said or suggested that Paul contradicted Jesus btw.
Darren10 Says:
May 7th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Big iron;
And Paul Bettencourt is one hot tamale as well.
It appears Darren has been lusting for Paul Bettencourt. Somebody better warn Paul.
You are on to me again Big45Iron.
To be honest, if you want to make this a scriptural debate, I will; but I’d rather avoid that. The reason i mentioned the possible contradiction between Jeus’ words (directly from the Master) and Paul’s teachings is because I invited you to fill in the blank of one of jesus’ direct teachings as per post# 81 and you replied by citing the works of Paul. You did so in a manner that suggested that Paul’s works answers the blank. As for that a) I don’t understand that thought process and b) I don’t see how the teachings of Paul separates you from Jesus’ teachings.
So fill in the blank and we can go from there. If you want a scrpiture discussion, I’ll be happy to accomodate.
I have no desire to debate scripture with you.
You want me to fill in some blank to justify your judgmental disposition.
You make suppositions that are not true. I have not said or implied that Paul’s words contradict Jesus. You remind me of the Pharisee and Sadducees, always trying to trip people up.
In short there is nothing to debate with you what so ever. Go home and take the plank out of your own eye.
Toodles
squakbox;
The untrue suppositions are made by BigIron. I was simply defending my position when challenged on it. You previously said, “Gawduhhhhhh I love a good Hooters controvery. I could rant but the PRUDES among us make me nuts. So I will move along.”. Well, I interpret one of the “prudes” as this “little immature boy”, namely, Darren(10) Also, you have said, “Man I got one question for you. Do you have a guide dog and walk around blindfolded? If you consider the Hooter’s wait staff wearing slutty uniforms you gotta be gouging your eyes out just to walk in freaking Walmart or Target.” Not only would justifying the Hooters uniform go against Paul’s words to the Corinthians to shun immorality, but you interjected yourself into debating me directly on my positions. That’s when I began to speak directly to you.
As a reminder, you avoided answering a teaching made directly by Jesus, you proclaimed Master, and I’m very glad He is, by citing Paul. So I’ll be blunt. By answering the question in post #81 because that goes against where you stand. You cannot deflect that fact to Paul or any other of the Savior’s Apostle.
You called me names based on what? Based on what I’ve posted, right? Likewise my judgments made on you are according to what you have posted. Yet I’m the one with a plank as well as associated with one of the most corrupt group of men in history? No logic there.
I made one simple position here and was content to leave it at that. It’s only after I was challenged on that position that I made the additional remarks.
You’re a fine person, I’ve not doubt.
Take care and God bless.