I have come to know an extended immigrant family from the West Indies spread out across the New York metropolitan area. I love these people because they are so optimistic, hard-working, amazingly charitable and dedicated to seeing each and every one of their children receive a thorough and higher education. They are, in fact, obsessed with a proper formal education and the opportunity available to them in America. They are exactly the kind of immigrant this nation needs and should cultivate.
One other common factor among them was the near immediate rejection of Barack Obama and an insistence the man was, well, a fraud. My friends’ vocal and visible (everything is vocal and visible with them) revulsion at Obama took me back a step early last year when I first heard it. I was curious and intrigued with Obama as a political phenomenon aside from the fact he was highly unsuitable for my political opinions. But my Jamaican friends never hesitate to express their amazement over the messianic devotion of American blacks to Obama.
Now comes Cinque Henderson, a South Carolina bred, Harvard-educated former film executive who is currently a television writer. He has written a piece for The New Republic about Obama:
It’s worth remembering that the majority of blacks still think O.J. Simpson is innocent. And, in times like these, when a black man is out front in the public eye, black people feel both proud and vulnerable and, as a result, scour the earth for evidence of racists plotting to bring him down, like an advance team ready to sound an alarm. Barack needed only a gesture, a quick sneer or nod in the direction of the Clintons’ hidden racism to avail himself of the twisted love that rescued O.J. and others like him and to smooth his path to victory, and, therefore, to salvage his candidacy.
and this intriguing bit:
Why do black people love Obama? In large part, it’s because of the dark-skinned woman on his arm. Black people (especially black women) are nuts for Michelle. Had Barack married a white woman, his candidacy would’ve never gotten off the ground with black people. And would whites really be so into him if he hadn’t had a white mother?
Read the entire article. There are choice insights there I hope are being understood and digested by the McCain campaign. Oh, and by the way, Mr. Henderson is a black man.
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May 16th, 2008 at 8:26 am
Why would you think for one minute that Sen. McCain would give a hoot in holler for what someone else thinks or says. He’s right, everyone else is wrong, and that’s the way it is in McCain’s eyes. If he loses this election it will be the voters fault - not his. I’ll go ahead and accept my share of the blame right now, because I do not plan to vote for him.
May 16th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Despite the poll numbers, I really think that there are some white Dimwits who are not ready for a black President. On the outside they may say they are but deep inside, I think not. The Dimwit party has always used the blacks only for their voting block but as religious as most blacks are, it is not reflected in their voting.
May 16th, 2008 at 8:31 am
#1 Rastus
I’m glad LST is here so you could get that off your chest early in the day. I hope the rest of your day goes better.
May 16th, 2008 at 8:49 am
#2
It’ll be interesting in the general election to see how many of Hillary’s supporters bolt from the Democrat party because of BO’s skin color. I think that people will tell pollsters that they’ll vote for BO because it is what they believe they should say (in large part because the BO supporters have made such a big deal about not voting for him is racist in and of itself, regardless of the reason), but in the privacy & anonymity of the voting booth, they won’t for a variety of reasons.
Some of this has already been seen in several primaries where BO’s pre-election polls have been 7-8% higher than the actual election results.
May 16th, 2008 at 8:53 am
“…the majority of blacks still think O.J. Simpson is innocent.”
That pretty much tells you right there that there is no point in debating the flaws of Hussein’s political ideology with them. Just write off that voting block. Just give the Democrats those votes…
Democrats need a stupid population. Democrats exist only because of a stupid, under-educated populace.
May 16th, 2008 at 8:56 am
Texpat, fascinating New Republic piece. Mr. Henderson has surely poked a hornet nest with this. Good for him, and I hope he doesn’t need a bodyguard now.
May 16th, 2008 at 8:56 am
#4 NA
I saw a quote from a major pollster the other day where he admitted they had to create an “Obama factor” adjustment in their poll analysis because of the very reason you cite above.
May 16th, 2008 at 8:57 am
Something we can agree with Wright - Obama is just a politician.
May 16th, 2008 at 9:46 am
It’s called PRIDE.
May 16th, 2008 at 9:53 am
I really Like the Charles Barkley Quote on Voting
“Poor people have been voting for democrats for the last 50 years, and they are still poor”
May 16th, 2008 at 9:56 am
“Jews don’t believe that Jesus is our savior, why would they believe Barack Obama would be a good president?”
That’s about as stupid a statement as this:
“One other common factor among them was the near immediate rejection of Barack Obama and an insistence the man was, well, a fraud.”
When oh when will we judge a man by the content of his character and not the color of his skin?
May 16th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Mr. Henderson is a racist. Obama is half-white.
May 16th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Republicans are scared of Obama….and so it begins…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amb-marc-ginsberg/swift-boating-comes-to-je_b_102009.html
May 16th, 2008 at 10:17 am
11 Izquierdo
I have have judged Barack on the content of his character. What I found about Baracks character is he hangs out with Racist, Terrorist, and crooks. I find his Charater lacking.
I have also Judged Barak on the policies he wants to put into place as President and I find them to be far left leaning socialist policies which I think are wrong for America.
Hillary is no better than Barack and John McCain is only slightly better than either. IMHO we have as the mainsteam canidates 3 people that will make extremely poor Presidents.
May 16th, 2008 at 10:19 am
#13 Iz
Where did the President mention current Democrats in general or O’bama in particular in his speech?
He stated his belief that appeasement is a very flawed policy and gave an actual example from 1939 where a Senator said that if he could only have spoken to Hitler, maybe the invasion of Poland could have been prevented.
The squealing of the Democrats speaks volumes about their true beliefs.
May 16th, 2008 at 10:24 am
#14
“Hillary is no better than Barack and John McCain is only slightly better than either. IMHO we have as the mainsteam canidates 3 people that will make extremely poor Presidents.”
How true.
How long must the country suffer before we have a real democratic party?
May 16th, 2008 at 10:25 am
#13 -
As they SHOULD be! (unless of course the KGB, gulags, 100% taxes and all of us receiving handouts from the Govt based on whatever they THINK we ‘need’ sounds appealing…..)
May 16th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Obama swoon, blind and mystify many of those with the “american idol” and “reality tv” mentality by calling them “sweetie”
May 16th, 2008 at 10:31 am
14trl3
I respect your opinion but disagree. I find President Bush to be not worthy of the office, but he’s there. I could list the reasons. Suffice it to say that when Barack Obama becomes President Obama we should all put our differences behind us, at least for awhile, and give stop with the hate.
15 NA
C’mon you’re native not naive…
May 16th, 2008 at 10:32 am
17 Katfish
We’re hooked on Obama….HaHa
May 16th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Izzy, you know that Republicans really believe that Obama will hurt the country when a lot of them would rather have Hillary Clinton as president. That takes true belief!
May 16th, 2008 at 10:40 am
#19
This episode points out exactly who is naive. Do O’Bama and the Democrats really believe that a legitimate policy statement is out of bounds? It just shows how thin-skinned O’Bama is. If he can’t handle a general policy statement that hits a little too close to home regarding what he really believes, but doesn’t want pointed out, what would he say when Ahmad’sanutjob tells him he’s an infidel and as such should be beheaded?
Methinks you and O’Bama do protest too much.
May 16th, 2008 at 10:52 am
5. T-Hawk
I don’t want to sound too sensitive, though, as you know, I am quite the sensitive guy, but this is an observation that continues to amaze and, in fact, sadden me.
Before the OJ Simpson murder trial, I naively thought we had made more progress in race relations than we had. Voting rights had long since been assured, blacks were entering the middle class, upper middle class, and millionaire ranks in record numbers, and black leaders had national platforms and key positions in Congress and the current Administration.
But on the day of the verdict, at the end of a trial graphically describing the butchering of two human beings, when I saw blacks jump for joy and cheer wildly, some angrily (many admitting to interviewers that, even if OJ did it, it was about time a black man beat the system), while whites shook their heads in disbelief, I knew there were still hills to climb.
Perhaps out of self-defense, I continued to be pollyannish in the subsequent years. Particularly when George W. Bush - a Republican, for crying out loud - appointed folks like Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice and Rod Paige to critically important positions, I thought surely these are good things for our march toward color blindness in this society.
Then, along comes Barack Obama. As the article notes, his supporters, many defensive and suspicious, leap on every perceived slight, and attribute the silliest of things to racism. Sadly, if he does not win the Preidency, many of his people will come away convinced it is because the USA is a racist country. There clearly remains a serious divide between blacks and whites.
While in the waiting room of a car dealership at the height of the Jeremiah Wright controversy, two young black men were sitting 15 to 20 feet away from me. The TV carried a promo for a story that night on Wright and his million dollar home. One of the men turned to the other, in a most agitated tone, and said, “So what? He deserves it. He runs a big church. And the white preachers all have ‘em.” The other stared at the TV and nodded agreement.
So while many white people saw the Wright story as an expose on a black bigot/hypocrite, many black people saw this as the white man again oppressing a black preacher.
Everything reduced to black and white. I guess there are still hills for all of us to climb.
May 16th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Izzty:
Once again we see the inability of some here to distinguish opinion from fact.
This is clearly texpat’s factual observation of his acquaintances’ reaction to Obama.
It isn’t a statement of opinion, which can be properly characterized as stupid or smart.
May 16th, 2008 at 10:58 am
Izzy
I do not hate Barak Obama. I disagree with his Socialist tendencies. I will oppose anything that tends to the this great country down the path of Socialism. Hence I will oppose his election and do what I can to prevent his election.
The only way I Barak Obama becoming president is if John McCain does something extremely stupid which may very well happen.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:05 am
#24 Shannon
Yes, I stated my friends’ assessment of Obama was he was a fraud. I neither endorsed or rejected their judgement. I merely repeated what they told me. Izzy obviously has poor reading comprehension or cannot distinguish between a narrative statement and an expression of opinion.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:10 am
21 BigJolly
I have my own theories as to why more Repubs would rather have Hillary than Barack….
May 16th, 2008 at 11:10 am
Remember when Obama got in Maureen Dowd’s face after she made some comment in her column about his ears? Some man of substance right there.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:11 am
22 Native American
….doth protest too much…
May 16th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Izquierdo’s implication that any disagreement or negative criticism of Barack Obama is based on the color of his skin is itself a racist statement. It is both insulting to people of any color who choose to disagree with Obama on the merits and find his character flawed and condescending to all black people who both support and oppose Barack Obama.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:17 am
23 RickG
I tend to agree with you. OJ had the verdict in the bag when the jury was picked with the assistance of his (Jewish) lawyers. Many folks support Barack because they are Black. That doesn’t disqualify him. Lieberman won in Connecticut because he is a Jew.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:19 am
24 Shannon
If you don’t think this was a hit piece on Barack then I suspect your sincerity…
May 16th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Reply to No. 11:
“When oh when will we judge a man by the content of his character and not the color of his skin?”
We will start judging a person based on his character when his character is not overshadowed by the color of his skin. To me character is developed by who you associate with. Their character teachs you and you accept it as your own. Who would hang around with somebody who doesn’t have your same beliefs. So based on who “BO” has assoicated with, one would have to think that that is “BO”s character traits. “BO” played the “race card”, HELLary played the “gender card”. Let the “cards” fall where they may!!!!
May 16th, 2008 at 11:20 am
#31 izzy
Lieberman won in Connecticut because he is a Jew ? Do you know anything about Connecticut ? What an absurd assertion. This is really not your day, pal.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:22 am
“His Jewish lawyers”
A curious reference, at best.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:24 am
#35 Shannon
The real izquierdo rears its head.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:24 am
#29 Iz
Heckuva argument right there.
Anything to say of substance beyond that?
May 16th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Izzy #31;
I thought he won because he had the most conservative message. Even more conservative than the Rep. candidate.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:29 am
25 trl3
Socialism. Hmmmm. You mean like protecting social security? When BO came out for keeping benefit ss like they are, it was a bold political move, and I support it. Socialism, like not making Bush’s tax cut (for the wealthy) permanent? I go for that too. Socialism, like strong unions? Where would this country be without them? Bo isn’t a socialist, but he thinks a mixture of socialism and capitalism is a good way to go….and you?
May 16th, 2008 at 11:35 am
35&36 Shannon & texpat
C’mon now you played the race card with this thread. No? Do you really think Lieberman would have won in Copnnecticut without 82% of the Jewish vote?
May 16th, 2008 at 11:36 am
My plan is to hold my nose and vote for McCain. The rest of the races, I plan to alternate my vote left and right. Totally divided government is our best hope for survival this year Im afraid!
May 16th, 2008 at 11:37 am
37 Native American
Difficult to respond to each post….
May 16th, 2008 at 11:40 am
#39 Iz
Social Security as it currently exists will be unsustainable in the near future. Congress (both R & D)is not and has not been willing to do anything about it. The longer this denial continues, the more painful the remedy will be.
Bush’s tax cuts benefited the middle class most of all, not the “wealthy” that the left likes to tout. Taxation of the wealthiest in order to transfer the wealth to the poor directly is not socialist, it is Marxist.
Unions, by and large, have outlived most of their usefulness. Members have been voting with their feet for decades; non-public union membership has been declining for many years. Many of our industries would be much more competitive without them.
O’Bama is not a socialist; he’s a Marxist trying to make himself palatable to enough gullible people to get elected.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:44 am
texpat played the race card? Only in your typically white man’s liberal mind.
Would you care to explain the reference to “Jewish lawyers”?
May 16th, 2008 at 11:48 am
#40 izquierdo
I wrote about an American black man who believes Obama has shrewdly and calculatingly played the race card while loudly proclaiming he is above it. I included factual observations about black, West Indian immigrants and their opinions of Barack Obama. The only statement I made concerning Obama and my own opinion of him is this:
You, in fact have inflamed the conversation here with your ridiculous accusations of racism. Like Obama and every other self-serving liberal, you play the race card when it is convenient for you and in place of actually having to defend positions. It is called laziness and ethical sloth.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:49 am
McCain wanted to talk to Hamas 2 years ago…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/15/exclusive-video-mccain-wa_n_102031.html
May 16th, 2008 at 11:51 am
#31 Iz
#40
You make statements like this, yet somehow calling people who don’t like O’Bama for his policies is somehow racist?
May 16th, 2008 at 11:52 am
44Shannon
The Defense Attorneys (”The Dream Team”)
Robert Shapiro
F. Lee Bailey
Alan Dershowitz
Barry Scheck
Johnnie Cochran
May 16th, 2008 at 11:53 am
46
Hamas endorsed Obama for President, not McCain.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:55 am
48
Interesting list.
Now, would you care to explain your reference to “Jewish lawyers”?
May 16th, 2008 at 11:55 am
45 texpat
C’mon texpat. If you dish it out you gotta take it.
and this intriguing bit:
Why do black people love Obama? In large part, it’s because of the dark-skinned woman on his arm. Black people (especially black women) are nuts for Michelle. Had Barack married a white woman, his candidacy would’ve never gotten off the ground with black people. And would whites really be so into him if he hadn’t had a white mother?
Read the entire article. There are choice insights there I hope are being understood and digested by the McCain campaign. Oh, and by the way, Mr. Henderson is a black man.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:58 am
IZZY
You are right, as Native american pointed out Obama is not socialist he is a Marxist.
Obama wants first and foremost a massive redistribution of wealth. It is his belief that those with money do not deserve what they worked for and he would like to give their money to people that depend on government to wipe their noses.
I have got a tip for those that envy the wealthy and think they have a right to what some one else EARNED. The Government will never give you anything more than you need to barely get by on and to buy your vote. If you really want more, get off your rearend and earn it like the others did.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Iz:
Regarding my #22, here’s a statement from The Chosen One’s official website:
“Diplomacy: Obama is the only major candidate who supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions. Now is the time to pressure Iran directly to change their troubling behavior.”
Iran is thumbing its collective nose at us, Germany, France, and the UK (the latter three are more active and open; we’re using back channels). How much more diplomacy (read: groveling) should we all do to help Iran see the error of its ways? We all know Iran bankrolls Hamas and Hezbollah, so how would presidential-level meetings with Ahmad’sanutjob not be negotiating with terrorists?
May 16th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
52trl3
this is untrue:
Obama wants first and foremost a massive redistribution of wealth. It is his belief that those with money do not deserve what they worked for and he would like to give their money to people that depend on government to wipe their noses.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
50 Shannon
Are there any jewish lawyers on the list??
May 16th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
I’m still trying to figure out how the Jewish Lawyers comment applies. But, ya know, everyday we learn more about each other, and how we think.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
55 izzy
I found your reference to Jewish lawyers not tangentially, or even remotely, pertinent to your comment about the point at which the dream team “had the case in the bag”. (Your #31)
Perhaps your mind was already thinking about the Jew Lieberman.
You really got a thing about Jews, huh?
May 16th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Izzy, you forgot the media. Jews control the media too, don’t ya know. Keep digging.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
#51 izzy
That is a quote from Cinque Henderson. What is your point if you really have one ?
May 16th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Beam me up Scotty! There are no intelligent life forms here.
Simple
May 16th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Maybe izyy is one of those upset
“the Jews killed Jesus” guys.
With no clarification being offered,
I think speculation is fair.
After all, he brought up the subject of Jews.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
The shocking thing about this article is not the substance of it, but where it appeared and who wrote it. I never would have believed.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
#58: Let’s not forget the international banking cabal. They’re the ones that smuggled all the gold bullion out of the World Trade Center basement on 9/10 and hustled it off to Area 51.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
That didn’t happen, Matt. You were watchin’ Die Hard 3 and must have bit into a bad Nacho.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
63.
And remember, Jews control LST and all its contributors.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
65
Even if only in a tangential sort of way.
:>)
May 16th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Don’t forget, the chemtrails! The Jooz are spraying us Gentiles with seasonings us so they can make those blood soaked matzo balls!
Gentile blood is what makes ‘em so tasty!
May 16th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
O.J. Simpson nickname “The Juice” pronounced exactly like “The Jews”. Coincidence? I think not. The ‘murdering of innocents’ conspiracy widens.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Iz will be surprised to find out Jesus was a Jew. Now some of his posts might have meanings you haven’t considered. Perhaps he is indicating OJ’s jury was Jewish. Or perhaps that OJ was Jewish. Is he saying Johnny Cochran is Jewish? Could it be that Cochran was related to Sammy Davis, Jr.?
Would Iz be surprised to learn that James Carville, Janet Reno, Al Gore, Bill Clinton, Rosie O’Donnell, and Ron Paul are all Jewish, and were all born in the same hospital on the July 7th, 1947 in Roswell, NM?
Does Iz know that all the public buildings in Washington, DC were designed and built by Jews? These are things Iz should know so that he can render his pontifications with wisdom and prudence.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Listening to Obama whine about McCain’s comments yesterday. I think we’re beginning to see the how shallow the depth his campaign is going to be when substantive issues are discussed. He’s in way over his head.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Ron Paul is a jew?
Well, that explains everything.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
texpat&Shannon
Regarding my (Jewish lawyer) comment:
Had I said black lawyer would anyone have recoiled in such horror? Seems to me that you texpat, are a fair minded intelligent contributor…why the reaction when the word Jew is used?
2)The fact that great Jewish Lawyers defended OJ when they knew he was guilty of double murder (and don’t tell me they didn’t know)proves that they will sell out for money. Is this unique? Heck no. But it does prove that they are capable of compromising thier principles. Same as everyone else.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Big 45 Iron
HaHa. You ARE a funny guy!
May 16th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Barack Obama, in the votes he did not miss voted with the Democrat Party 96.7% of the time (Washington Post). He has been in the Senate since January 2005. He sponsored a bill to tax us and pay the world to end world poverty (such payments would get to the poor like aid gets to the Burmese - that is a child’s dream, not reality, even if we tried it). On the last point, how much have we paid to the poor in this country and do we still have many of the same people poor?
I think we have little in the way of choice, because the Senate and House are to blame for much of the silliness that has gotten passed as law and we have 3 senators running.
As for the race card, why should we care what color he is, except for the way it is used to promote this inexperienced party follower? He doesn’t get consensus, he follows the flock (see first paragraph). Anyone who attempts to aid the poor by punishing “the rich” is punishing the poor by drying up their potential jobs (who do you think employs them?).
Barack Obama is too young an inexperienced, not enough of a leader, and skating in on image. Maybe his being easily led will play to our advantage if we can get our wishes into his head. It is just that when he gets the support of Hamas and his election people fly Che Guevarra flags, I think he is poisonous, if not in his character, in his associations, and we know he is a follower of his associates.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Obama is not too young. Look at the age of Jefferson when he wrote the Declaration of Independence, and many of those in the Continental Congress. Look at the age of Hamilton, Jay, and Madison when they wrote the Federalist Papers. All in their early 30s to early 40s at the time they were delegates to the Constitutional Convention. No, age is not the factor here.
Obama is devoid of those traits that truly make men great. He is a superficial, do nothing blowhard, completely lacking in the moral and mental capacity to apply truth and logic in solving today’s problems.
In short, he’s an empty suit, and couldn’t climb the shoelaces of the founding fathers, much less fill their shoes.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
#67, Fasternu, I’m confused. Since the Jews are also spraying themselves with the chemtrails, will that make them matzo matzo balls? Will it imply that Jews have more balls than anybody, and that’s why they keep kicking the Arab’s butts in every war?
May 16th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
#64 I am still laughing…………..
May 16th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
#72 Izzy —
I guess that means that the quilty should have no defense. String them up!!
May 16th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
75
May 16th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
75Big45
Yeah but when President Obama orders the Marines into harms way, they will salute smartly and get to it, without question, right?
May 16th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Iz, yes they will. You can also depend on there being no liberals amongst them willing to risk their own lives on Obama’s orders. But such is the honorable nature of our military that liberals are not attracted to that service.
May 16th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
81 Bib45
Wrong. Plenty of Dems in the service….probably not among the vets you hang with.
May 16th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Maybe that’s why they are all so weird - they’re from outer space!
May 16th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
IZZY #54
If it is untrue then why is it the every give away program Barak wants is to be paid for by an additional tax on the rich?
May 16th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
I understand now, izzy.
You are fully consumed with identity politics–typical white guy liberal.
Hey, if you want take lawyers to the shed for defending the guilty, that’s your business. I seem to recall the accused are guaranteed representation, regardless of guilt.
But I’m no lawyer or legal scholar.
May 16th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Well said! I couldn’t agree more. For Izzy to claim that we are racists if we don’t like Obama, I would like to remind him that many people like other blacks like Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Alan Keyes, Thomas Sowell (commentator) and have posted a great quote from Charles Barkley. No, race is NOT the issue. This guy is a Marxist, communist, socialist, etc. His wife hates America. Just on his wife’s hatred alone, why would anyone vote for him? A President AND the First Lady should love America.
May 16th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
#84 - And it wouldn’t be just the “rich”. The liberals think if you make over $40K per year you are rich. And which party is it that has more millionaires representing them - it’s not the Republicans. Which party was Abraham Lincoln from - Republican. Which party fought for the civil rights act (hint…not the Democrats). In short, liberals do not want those that are deemed poor or oppressed to make gains. When they do, they no longer need the nanny state, nor the liberals representing them. It’s about time that the American public stopped this entitlement mantra. The only thing we are entitled to is freedom to pursue lawful lives and to have our government defend us against those that wish to do us harm. The rest is an entitlement.
May 16th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
trl3
never ceases to amaze me how Repubs can be so wrong, especially about the economy:
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
May 16th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
87 dcgirl
I didn’t claim you were racist if you don’t support Obama….you’re trippin’
May 16th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Iz, I don’t hang with vets. Here I am surrounded by active duty military. All my neighbors are military. I am 1 miles from Wheeler Field and Schofield Barracks. I work near Pearl Harbor and Hickam field. I hear the calls from the local military to the talk radio shows. Yesterday the morning host had on three ladies, two whose husbands were in Iraq, and one whose husband was recently killed there. Their views were decidedly conservative.
Talking to them at home, they are conservative. Talking to them in the grocery store, they are conservative. Talking to them at the dog park, they are conservative. Talking to them at Home Depot, they are conservative.
I haven’t met your Dem liberal military folks when I was in the military other than one we had in boot camp, and one I work with now who is retired Army - but he’s not very liberal really. So that’s two out of thousands over the last 40 years I have been closely associated with on active duty, and post service. In the veteran’s organizations I’ve served with, their was vast disdain for liberals.
I don’t know where you get the idea that there are “alot” of Dems in the military. If there were as many as 100,000, that would still only be 3% of the active and reserve forces. And I have never met 3 out of 100 military personnel who were liberals. Back up your figure with some reliable sources.
May 16th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Iz, the only reason there was a dip during the Clinton years is because the military was raped and cut in half - that was Dem and GOP alike - and as a result we had a difficult time during the first years after 9/11. However, in spite of the raping of military forces, Bill Clinton did grow the civilian, non military side of the federal government.
May 16th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
#76
The Jews developed the antidote to the chemtrails at the same time. They are immune.
May 16th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Iz - my husband and I are members of the local VFW chapter. There is not one member who is liberal. My son is a vet and my other son leaves for the service in August. They are both conservative. The vets that they know are conservative. So you’ve got veterans from WWII through today that our family knows that are ALL conservative. We haven’t met one yet that was liberal.
May 16th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
#93 dcgirl
Any liberal whoever showed up at the VFW hall you are talking about was never seen or heard from again. I know those guys.
May 16th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
I just tried Yahoo and Google searches for Liberals in the Military. Did not find one single major news source posted under either. Anybody want to double check me on this? Remember, a MAJOR news source. Not a left wing or right wing or military publication.
May 16th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25656-2004Oct11.html
May 16th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Obama’s church is a VFW chapter. (Very Few Whites)
May 16th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
#97
That is funny.
May 16th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Hamous, I’m not buying that poll at all. It’s way over for the libnut side.
May 16th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
#92 dcgirl - and all other vets
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE!!!!!!!
May 16th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Well, I’m still waiting for someone to ask “BO” how he is going to sit down and negotiate with countries like Iran whose sole negotiating point is they want you dead???
Oh, I’m still waiting for some starry-eyed college kid to ask HELLary: “Boxers or Briefs” Since they seem to ask every Presidential candidate that!!!
May 19th, 2008 at 6:00 am
Big45
Jim Webb is a Dem. Maybe the next VP. Disproves your theory.
May 20th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Iz, Jim Webb was in my regiment at the same time. He sold out. I got a personal call from him asking to support him in 2006. I told him there was no way I could support anybody running on the Democrat platform. I asked him what part of the Democrat platform he supported, and what parts he didn’t support. He would not answer.
I would remind you too of another soldier who fought bravely for this country. His name was Benedict Arnold. When you turn your back on the values you fought to defend and preserve, and which your men fought to defend and preserve, you have betrayed them and are unworthy of holding high office.