I attended the Annual Memorial Service at the Police Officers Memorial Friday night. Someone STOLE one of my digital field recorders I set up to capture the pipes in spit of all those guns present. Up editing the pics shot & audio captured on my second unit. Next year I’ll bring my own bazooka.
I know, I know, and I’ll just assume that most don’t care and that’s fine. I thought seriously about sending thise to Matt to see if he’d post to start a thread (Geez, how pretentious would that have been), but it’s not worth the time and hassle.
I am actually sitting here with a knotted stomach, as if I’m writing some kind of resignation or suicide note–something–needless to say on my part, I have been thinking about this since last evening and all of this morning.
I got involved in a “discussion” yesterday here in the OC regarding the Gay marriage thing–for once I thought it was a discussion, and although differing opinions were espoused, the 2 or 3 of us were putting forth our beliefs and understandings for our own sides. No, we won’t/don’t fundamentally agree–that makes us human–and that’s what separates us from other forms of life on this planet–our ability to reason and discuss (sometimes quite heatedly) our viewpoints, beliefs and standing on any various subjects and issues.
Anyway, I thought we had a fair discussion, no one changed their minds, it was (or so I thought) an open and frank discussion on the merits and reasons for standing against or for the Strike-down of the gay marriage ban in California and the overall discussion of where we individually stand on the controversial issue.
In full disclosure, I started off my part with an off-handed (evidently, too shrouded in stealth) jest about gays using the wrong end of a gun, but then proceeded to explain, I just don’t want gays being able to use the term “marriage” because of it’s sacred definition of “a man & a woman” in tradition, law and over a 1000 years of history. I also, repeated that I felt they deserve some sort of legal avenue to as many rights and benefits as we “married”, just not using the term marriage, use “civil union or partnership”.
I also joined a few that made the likely point that if gays are able to use the term marriage, why wouldn’t other, less tradiotional and some objectionable, groups be allowed the same availability. I suppose it’s because of the last or maybe my whole point, and let’s face it, I am opinionated and adamant about several issues (Heavens forbid), but that’s what this blog is for isn’t it? To come discuss and generally disagree with one another on a host of political issues and subjects?
To the point finally, I understand now what the folks “over yonder”, as I call it, some call “across the hall”, some say, “next door”, say about the folks here in LST and how the name for OY came about–I’ve been doing that since last evening, shaking my head.
A person, someone I consider a friend now after sharing IMs and EM off blog, someone I respect and have concern for their opinion has labeled me a gay basher and “the stereotypical right-wing nut” for putting down my thoughts, not in here but OY, where, typically, we try to take everything with a HUGE grain of salt and use a little more frank language, shall we say, and well, most of you traverse there as well, so you know.
I guess where I’m at, and a lot will go back to “you’re too sensitive”, etc., but, I don’t care–the left prides itself on it’s “open-mindedness”–BS, they’re no more openminded than I am, and NO one has ever accused me of that sin; it’s no secret to any here how stubborn and rabidly conservative I am, as well as obtuse and too quick to anger I can be. Very well, that’s me, and I will tell you this, I’m probably all of those things and more, but yesterday, I was not gay bashing–the only time I used the term “faggot” was in referring to HAL for not allowing my youtube video to be posted (the one I have posted every Friday afternoon that I have been online and in the OC on Friday).
So, here’s the deal–I understand where OY came from, and I may go there again (probably will much to their sonsternation), I may not–my time here is done and that’s okay. I was asked to come back, but the magority have ignored me here since my retrun–folks that I thought had become friends either don’t adress me specifically, won’t respond directly or only reply obliquely to my posting . Fine, again, I was asked back for my “honesty” and input to discussion, but generally none really want it.
So Wahhh, Wahhhh, I’m going to leave and you can’t stop me–yeah, yeah I know, but I really feel like I’m losing something in the leaving, but it is what it is.
Everyone here knows of my recent troubles and issues, and some have been very supportive, some have been embarrassed to witness or hear my pleas, some (maybe most don’t care) that’s all good to and now, it will be better.
So bash those that think differently than you, don’t hold the same opinion, etc., but don’t ever say you have an open mind–no one in here does–we are all the same in that we wouldn’t come here if we didn’t think our opinion was better than anyone elses–that we come to see our words in print/on-line–that we are all selfish and pretentious *with the exception of the few*–we all come here to read ourselves and espouse our beliefs; at least be honest with yourselves and undersatnd we’re all the same, we just have different veiwpoints. They aren’t wrong (well, some may be), they’re just different.
C’ya, Adios, Out, Good Luck and G’bye
Singned,
Stereotypical Right-Wing Nut
/and damn proud of it
So, let me get this straight. You have a nice discussion, here on LST, where your opinions are not bashed. Then, you go to your other hangout and your “friend” calls you “a gay basher and “the stereotypical right-wing nut” for putting down my thoughts, not in here but OY”.
Discussion was in here not there–was ended OY as the finality of discussion where we both were at the time. I’m sure it would’ve been over here if thread hadn’t died.
Good morning all. Another wonderful day to embrace beginning with 56 (yea) at 6. Sunrise hasn’t been visible at the horizon here for some time as movement north toward the Summer Solstice puts him behind lots of trees with thick foliage. This morning clouds above had pink streaks among their soft blue/gray blankets and a pinkish aura extending far to the edges of light sky. A beautiful and peaceful vision for the early riser gives a welcome escape from daily tribulations. Thank you, Lord.
Spouse’s coffee will have that special aroma in the cool again this morning, and hot chocolate will be the very thing for me. Indulgence here is appropriate. Meanwhile Mariposa has been greased lightning chasing her toys and occasionally pouncing on Berry and Val before they went outside, more like escaped her. Gotta find some way to bottle that energy.
Yesterday provided a real-life window into the cruelty/stupidity/laziness of some humans. In the grocery store parking lot near my car I found a box of 4 tiny kittens alongside the curb, abandoned with no mother, blanket, water, or food. They couldn’t be more tha 4 weeks old, barely had eyes open, hungry, cold, likely dehydrated.
I summoned an asistant manager, we brought the box just inside the store to get them out of the cold wind, and another staff lady called the humane society. One lady on her way out with groceries looked at the huddled orphans, picked one up and said she’d take it. We asked if she wanted a towel to wrap it in, she said no, I’m only going 2 blocks and it can ride in my lap. She just asked if the store carried nursing bottles for kittens (they do) and said she’d be back for some after she got kitty home. God bless her.
Another lady leaving the store saw, stopped, and said she’d get a blanket from her car to warm them. A few minutes later a staff lady who’d been involved in the rescue from the start happily came up with a shopping cart and said the blanket donor would take them home. Relief all the way around our little knot of concerned ladies as she put the box in the cart and went off to deliver them. God bless the adoptive lady.
Amazingly this upsetting scenario resolved in less than 15 minutes thanks to the kindness of several store staff ladies and shoppers. Kudos to the management and staff of the Randalls at Pecan Grove on FM 359.
KB: Don’t be toooo thin skinned from the reaction that you get from some on this blog. It is what it is… a blog where folks of many different backgrounds, ideals, religions, personal and political beliefs and ones with specifiic agendas do post their thoughts and positions.. some to “our” liking and some not so hot. Some use logic and reasoning. Some use common sense to get their point across and some use facts to back up their statements. Some don’t. Every once in a while we’ll get a few trolls stirring the pot and just out for a reaction from the readers. The very best way that most of us have found to react to those is to not respond at all and ignore them. If they don’t get a response, they eventually give up and move on. When we do respond, it just adds fuel to the fire. Then there are those who would argue with a brick wall just for the sake of arguing. Some have good/great motives/ some not so good. Some of us are full of spit and vinegar and just have a good time and try to lift each others spirits. Some times it’s fun and all in good taste. Sometimes it’s not. Try not to take those not so good times so personal.
We (I for one) enjoy your posts and your opinions. There are some of us that do care about our fellow man/woman. Sorry to see you go.
#11
If you are leaving because you think somebody or many bodies think less of you, well I say you are leaving for the wrong reason. *&#$ them, and it a fact no matter what anyone says no one have a completely “open mind” if they tell you they do they are a bold face liar. (Sorry simply human nature)
I don’t post much but after lurking here for a year + the one thing I have noticed is there is one big “in” club. (Remember those petty little groups in high school) and if you are not part of it you do not get much response. (Unless you come in here and put out some bate)
I have seen a person here that lives in her own “planet” and to say she tends to “stretch” a story is an understatement but since she is part of this group no one calls her on it.
Stick around and post away no matter who does or does not respond it’s always better to get different peoples views.
#22 - BigJ naw man now your changing the sacred Mouse-ke-teer ditty! If yer gonna plagiarize famous tunage ya gotta at least stick to the pentameter (or whatever it’s called)
heeheeheehee
#13 - Maybe its the evil influence of LST that turned him into a “Stereotypical Right-Wing Nut”? Evil LST caused him to wish that homosexuals commit suicide? Its a little known fact that LST runs on butterfly wings and ground puppy meat. I don’t know. Bizarre. But they all come back.
Happy Saturday all. Put some good stuff in those memory banks!
Edd Was in Trouble
He forgot his wedding anniversary. His wife was really angry. She told him, “Tomorrow morning, I expect to find a gift in the driveway that goes from 0 to 200 in less than 10 seconds AND IT BETTER BE THERE!!”
The next morning Edd got up early and left for work. When his wife woke up, she looked out the window and sure enough there was a box gift-wrapped in the middle of the driveway. Confused, the wife put on her robe and ran out to the driveway, brought the box back in the house. She opened it and found a brand new bathroom scale.
I have seen a person here that lives in her own “planet” and to say she tends to “stretch” a story is an understatement but since she is part of this group no one calls her on it.
Now I’m intrigued as I mentally scroll through the Gorgeous Ladies of LST.
I’m still a bit puzzled about a guy that gets into a civil discussion at one bar, wanders across the street to another bar, sees a patron from the first bar, gets into an argument with them and gets pasted, then gets mad at the first bar.
For what? Letting the patron wander across the street?
In hindsight, that comment was definitely front page discussion material. I say send it on to Matt, he’ll post it and get LST’s first Pulitzer, thus beating the Chron!
Hammy: Re UR #28 - Me too. Can’t figure that one out. I didn’t think anyone was cut that much slack around here.
Saturday funny: Edd Was in Trouble
He forgot his wedding anniversary. His wife was really angry. She told him, “Tomorrow morning, I expect to find a gift in the driveway that goes from 0 to 200 in less than 5 seconds AND IT BETTER BE THERE!!”
The next morning Edd got up early and left for work. When his wife woke up, she looked out the window and sure enough there was a box gift-wrapped in the middle of the driveway. Confused, the wife put on her robe and ran out to the driveway, brought the box back in the house. She opened it and found a brand new bathroom scale.
We’re going to put some memories in the bank. Have a guy coming to ride the bike that I have for sale, we’re going to ride all day. Leaving in about 45 minutes. New seats on the VTX, gonna relax and enjoy the breeze.
Welp that RNCC blog is STILL on fire and I took the liberty of posting at Juan McWarming’s own blog……….where the same hue & cry is at LEAST as fervent if not more so……..
There are a couple law enforcement officers on here that can help me out with this question. On TV when a cop is suspended or quits his job, they turn in their gun. Don’t you buy your own guns? It would not make sense to turn in what you purchased. I know I am talking about TV, but I was just wondering.
#39 - Just a guess from this desk - I can only imagine that perhaps Police Dept.s pay to maintain the weapon and/or provide the weapon - that might be why they confiscate? (and this could vary from department to department)………again ONLY my guess…….
After reading KentBook’s resignation post above, I just had to go back to Friday’s OC and see what all the fuss was. I always like a good disagreement. — I was really disappointed. Hardly anything there. He had more trouble with HAL than he did with the LST posters. Evidently his trouble was OY, not here. Not exactly a good reason to quit LST, but who am I to say.
By now I figure everyone has seen video of Bill O’Reilly “losing it” on set. This parody version includes a conversation between Bill-O and the producer.
Let me know who you think it is when you figure it out. Until then I will make cncfan the person that is in her OWN little group and loves to lie about other people. But then again that IMO.
BJ, let me help ya, it’s called HeadShaker dot com
Where you are always welcome for a good mature discussion of any topic you desire.
This was good and worth repeating:
cncfan Says:
May 17th, 2008 at 8:30 am
#11
If you are leaving because you think somebody or many bodies think less of you, well I say you are leaving for the wrong reason. *&#$ them, and it a fact no matter what anyone says no one have a completely “open mind” if they tell you they do they are a bold face liar. (Sorry simply human nature)
I don’t post much but after lurking here for a year + the one thing I have noticed is there is one big “in” club. (Remember those petty little groups in high school) and if you are not part of it you do not get much response. (Unless you come in here and put out some bate)
Here is my funny for the morning……….
Hillary Rodham Clinton is for banning all guns in America.
At a recent rural elementary school meeting in north Florida she asked the kids audience for total quiet.
Then, in the silence, she started to slowly clap her hands, once every few seconds.
Holding the audience in total silence, she said into the microphone, “Every time I clap my hands, a child in America dies from gun violence.”
A young voice with a proud southern accent pierced the quiet,
“Well, stop clappin, ya stupid b$tch!”
bigmck Says:
May 17th, 2008 at 9:07 am
There are a couple law enforcement officers on here that can help me out with this question. On TV when a cop is suspended or quits his job, they turn in their gun. Don’t you buy your own guns? It would not make sense to turn in what you purchased. I know I am talking about TV, but I was just wondering.
I beleive you are seeing this happen on cop shows that are based in NYC such as Law and Order. I could be wrong, but I bleive cops have toturn in thier guns because it’s against the law in NYC to own and carry a handgun without a permit, or being a policeman on duty. But when suspended, so is the ability to carry a gun without a permit.
The SCOTUS ruling on the Washington DC handgun ban is going to have some very interesting consequences—-
Who is in the “in club.” I would like to know so I don’t have to spend so much time reading every post. If I could find out who the “in club” is, then I could just read their posts and ignore all the others, thus saving a lot of time while not missing anything from those poor, intellectually inferior posters whose information is probably not worth knowing anyway.
In Texas in the 80’s I was issued a weapon (.38) to carry and a shotgun was kept in the trunk of the vehicle. I also had my own weapon. Both state issued weapons were returned when I quit and I kept my own.
I re-read yesterday’s thread (and the related comments at the other site) and still don’t understand why Kent got his panties in a knot. Perhaps it’s just more evidence that men also experience the symptoms of PMS.
So long for now, Kent. And to answer your question from yesterday, I don’t mind sharing that I was married for a long time and am now single.
“Around here,” Wyler said, “you’re pretty much related to everybody.”
Pretty much says it all. (Deliverance comes to mind)
Usually on Saturdays I start the day with a wonderful breakfast at Denny’s. Todays was terrible. Good food but accompanied by a whining, screaming brat and her mother just let her scream “I want Daddy” all the while.
Most parents can handle their children in a better way.
At the minor risk of being perceived as a bit COLD……..kneemail is on the way to the Kennedy family - but NOT to Terrible Ted…..sorry folks that worthless excuse for a human has wasted enough of our precious oxygen.
Mr. Fish
Having recently dodged a huge bullet concerning strokes and seeing the devastation first hand on those that have suffered a stroke, I would not wish that on anyone.
I have no use for Teddy but I cannot wish death on him. I just wish he would retire and go away.
#70 - Squawkster I totally “get” what you say sir……….but the demise of Terrible Ted falls under ‘the needs of the many completely overriding the needs of ONE’ IMHO……
My Mom having suffered several strokes in her dotage, the last of which took her ability to speak more than mumbles, barely missed taking her ability to swallow anything solid, and likely also took much of her ability to interact with the world, I likewise would not wish that on anyone.
Hey let’s remember KentBook is currently going through some hard times, a person can only handle so much at one time and we all can get a little irrational when facing tough decisions. So be a little understanding, give him some space, and back off. Not an excuse, just a reminder.
My biggest dread about Kennedy leaving us is the unstoppable rants about what a great guy he was, excellent father and husband and that he did so much for so many. I’d rather he live.
Increasingly, the Western world has attitudes rather than policies. It’s one thing to talk as a means to an end. But these days, for most midlevel powers, talks arethe end, talks without end. Because that’s what civilized nations like doing – chit-chatting, shooting the breeze, having tea and crumpets, talking talking talking. Uncivilized nations like torturing dissidents, killing civilians, bombing villages, doing doing doing. It’s easier to get the doers to pass themselves off as talkers then to get the talkers to rouse themselves to do anything.
And, as the Iranians understand, talks provide a splendid cover for getting on with anything you want to do. If, say, you want to get on with your nuclear program relatively undisturbed, the easiest way to do it is to enter years of endless talks with the Europeans over said nuclear program. That’s why that Hamas honcho endorsed Obama: They know he’s their best shot at getting a European foreign minister installed as president of the United States.
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This will be the fault line in the post-Bush war debate over the next few years. Are the political ambitions of the broader jihad totalitarian, genocidal, millenarian – in a word, nuts? Or are they negotiable? President Bush knows where he stands. Just before the words that Barack Obama took umbrage at, he said:
“There are good and decent people who cannot fathom the darkness in these men and try to explain away their words. It’s natural, but it is deadly wrong. As witnesses to evil in the past, we carry a solemn responsibility to take these words seriously.”
Back from working sites this morning. We started on Long Point, where no loitering signs were posted. We set up our signs, the police came and moved them out. Later we went to Tanner, stopped 4 pick-ups. I will have news about the Steubner site soon. It looks like it will be really good news. But, can’t say much yet.
I did hear that the amnesty bill being shoved at us again allows as many farm workers to come in as needed to work the crops, but it doesn’t protect their wage. There is another bill that is in going through the ranks, that allows as many farm workers as needed to come in, but, they must be paid minimum wage, at least. We are for the second. Don’t ask me how we will get them to leave, once they quit picking, but with a minimum wage requirement, we won’t be flooded because farmers won’t hire tons.
Anyway, I have been asked to beg everyone to please contact the politicians to stop this attachment.
Sarge - The problem is that those of us with more of a military mind can see right through the “talkers” but the others still want to talk. Talking solves so darn much you know.
Butch Says:
May 17th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Sarge - The problem is that those of us with more of a military mind can see right through the “talkers” but the others still want to talk. Talking solves so darn much you know.
Well;
According to the talkers, having been in the military renders you incapable of decent thought on the subject:
Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s family background as the son and grandson of admirals has given him a worldview shaped by the military, “and he has a hard time thinking beyond that,” Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Ia., said Friday.
“I think he’s trapped in that,” Harkin said in a conference call with Iowa reporters. “Everything is looked at from his life experiences, from always having been in the military, and I think that can be pretty dangerous.”
Harkin said that “it’s one thing to have been drafted and served, but another thing when you come from generations of military people and that’s just how you’re steeped, how you’ve learned, how you’ve grown up.”
Got that?
If you’ve were drafted, you’re excused. But if you volunteer for service, and ESPECIALLY if you come from a long line of people who have served in the military, your mind has become twisted. You are incapable of adhering to anything other than knee jerk blood thirsty war mongering thought.
You know, like George Washington, Dwight Eisenhower, Jack Kennedy, Douglas Macarthur, Norman Schwartzkopf, etc.
Morissey exposes the i herent hypocrasy in this particularly odious interpretation:
This comes, of course, from the same party whose Senate Intelligence chair suggested that military pilots have little human feeling. It precedes an effort by the New York Times tomorrow, along with some of McCain’s oh-so-courageous unnamed Senate colleagues, to suggest that McCain didn’t really experience Vietnam because his five-plus years as a POW kept him from learning all of the lessons John Kerry experienced in his three months in a Swift Boat. This also comes from the same party that celebrated Kerry’s military experience while denigrating George Bush’s National Guard service. According to Harkin today, Bush would be a better candidate — right?
And you read that right. Tomorrow’s New York Times is going to make the case that McCain is incapable of learning the lessons of Viet Nam because he spent five years in a POW camp being tortured to the extent that he can’t raise his arms above his shoulders, but John Kerry’s three months in country does.
This all coincides with a Democrat push in Congress to portray Veterans as homeless PTSD induced suicidal rage killers under the guise of “helping them.”
An excellent response, and examples of how this is being done, comes from Some Soldiers Mom today in a response to a letter she got from a Senator who thought she was on thier side:
Thank you for thinking of me. I admire and am deeply appreciative of the [legislator]’s work on behalf of Veterans. However, I have concerns about straight statistics and the twisting (the magic of bad statistics) that occurs when released (and used inappropriately as in the past.) By that I mean that data is used to promote political bashing rather than reflect a true and sincere attempt to analyze why and how [fill in the blank] is occurring — including how to “fix” the problem — if, in fact, there is a problem and if is fixable at all.
This is for the coming bloodbath that some people believe is coming in November.
With nearly all precincts reporting, Prentiss County Chancery Clerk Childers held a 54 percent to 46 percent lead over Southaven Mayor Davis.
The seat was vacated by Republican Roger Wicker when he was appointed to fill the Senate seat that Republican Trent Lott vacated when he retired.
Wicker had held the seat since 1994, never winning re-election with less than 63 percent of the vote, the Washington Post reported.
The district, a Republican stronghold, had backed George Bush with 59 percent of the vote in 2000 and 62 percent in 2004.
Childers� victory hands the Democrats their second special election victory in the South in less than two weeks. On May 3, Democratic State Rep. Donald Cazayoux Jr. defeated former Republican State Legislator Woody Jenkins in a Louisiana district that had been in GOP hands for 33 years.
#79 Squawk, In my haste to comment on Sen. Kennedy’s reported stroke I neglected to include that Mom passed away in 2001. Your kind thoughts are greatly appreciated. Just recalling it though hit pretty hard. Thank you.
Sir Winston referred to endless negotiating as JAW, JAW, JAW in the late 1930s. Some of the current liberal Mensa bunch need to read his five volumes of The Second World War. Ahem.
That is just about stupid. At the end of the day how do you think the democrat is going to vote and with whom? More conservative compared to what?
It all fits in with this logic, which I have repeated many times here (and have been accused of being a “Republicans good–Democrat bad” spokesman by doing so:
“If you want more Conservative Republicans to run, reform the Democrat Party by showing them that Conservatives win elections and Liberals lose them.”
I like it when Conservative Democrats win. the more of them that do, and the more Liberals that lose, the higher the chances will be that I’ll have a Conservative to vote for some election time.
So I base my vote on a comaprison between the two candidates I am offered, then voting for the most Conservative of the two—regardless of whther I completely agree with them, or that they are not my “dream candidate.”
Uisng that calculus, I’ll be voting Republican in November. In all of the races in my district, the most Conservative candidates happen to be Republican.
I;ve said it before:
Give me a Conservative Democrat to vote for, and I will.
Adee I found your morning prose delightful. Thank you. I’ve gone to the feed store, and am thinking of anything else I can do to put off trimming the front tree hehe. It’s not the cutting, it’s the bundling I hate.
Sir Winston referred to endless negotiating as JAW, JAW, JAW in the late 1930s. Some of the current liberal Mensa bunch need to read his five volumes of The Second World War. Ahem.
And I truly believe that this November, the American People will be faced with the modern day equivalent of a choice between Winston Churchill and Neville Chamberlain.
#38 Katfish, Just browsed the McCain web site and see what you mean about folks being hot about his swallowing the climate change/global warming hoax.
Certainly no less angry than the RNC site. Hope the staff reads it and has the guts to show him what’s on it.
If you haven’t made it over to the RNCC blog, here is a great tidbit.
Here’s a virtual check to go along with the “virtual fence” on the border. I’ll also be giving you my virtual vote in November. It’s not a real vote, but if “virtual” is good enough for our country’s security, it should be good enough when you want my vote, right?
Adee Says:
May 17th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
#38 Katfish, Just browsed the McCain web site and see what you mean about folks being hot about his swallowing the climate change/global warming hoax.
Certainly no less angry than the RNC site. Hope the staff reads it and has the guts to show him what’s on it.
How does McCain’s approach differ from the alternative?
My concern over the foreign policy of this country being turned over to somebody who is the preferred candidate of both American and Islamic terrorists, and who will negotiate without preconditions with the three biggest supporters of terrorism—two of which are actively engaged in killing American soldiers—kind of trumps any concern I might have over the Global Warming policy of either of the candidates.
Wow…I must have really missed a lot of good ranting this week if people are leaving.
I’ve been more out than in because my granny is in the hospital. Looks like she’s going home today but will be having kyphoplasty to repair a compression fracture in her L2 vertebrae. She has Alzheimer’s as well so this whole hospital thing has been quite the challenge. Someone has to be with her at all times. She has pulled her IV out three times and her catheter out once and when she is awake she is constantly messing with everything and/or trying to get out of the bed. On the one hand she acts like the biggest drama queen you ever saw when they come to draw blood (she has no idea what they’re doing and just putting the little band around her arm she made it sound like they were killing her when I know good and well those bands don’t really hurt) and yet somehow she wants to pull out her IV and catheter and doesn’t make a noise! Going home will mean we won’t have to worry about those things but they will have to get a hospital bed and clear out a downstairs room for her. We are trying to move them (my grandparents & granny) to a house with more bedrooms downstairs but we’re having a hard time finding the right house for them.
Because my aunts had previously planned a vacation this weekend they were unavailable to help with Granny’s care while in the hospital (although I’m sure they didn’t have near as much fun knowing what was going on back home) so I’ve been pretty much the only one able to stay with Granny to give my grandmother a break.
So anyhow if I’m in the “in” group and got read sorry to bore you but I needed a rant.
From the “Rightwingnews” - “Jenkins is a conservative candidate, running for the 6th U.S. Congressional District seat in Louisiana, which is a Republican district, and he’s in a close race. This is a seat the GOP can hold and Woody Jenkins is a guy we want in Congress.”
From the “NYTimes” - “Mr. Jenkins, a champion of religious-right causes for decades, achieved notoriety in the State House 18 years ago when he brandished plastic models of fetuses on the chamber floor to bolster his anti-abortion arguments.”
Yes Cazayoux is very conservative by traditional Democratic standards but not more so than Jenkins.
Oh and Wicker got a 96/100 from the American Conservative Union in 2007.
do you think that we, as Concervatives, should be focusing all of our attention on John McCains positions on Global Warming and the Border and not focus any on Barack Obama’as Foreign Policy?
The reason why I ask is that, Constitutionally, the only thing any President has any direct control over is Foerign Policy.
Shouldn’t all of us, therfore, make the Foreign Policy positions of either candidate the main focus of our discussion and research?
Or should we just keep focusing on “Republican bad/Republican bad”?
Yes Cazayoux is very conservative by traditional Democratic standards but not more so than Jenkins.
spoken like a true Democart who does not want folks to acknowledge the fact that it was somebody who is more Conservative than most Deomcrats who won the election.
The fact of the matter is, the only way the Democrats won that election was by running somebody equally, or nearly so, as conservative as the Republican alternative.
I do notice, that you guys didn;t run a Liberal in any of those races?
I can truly relate, my mother-in-law has early stage Alzheimer’s and was hospitalized several weeks ago and gave the medical staff hell.
They called me as my husband just had surgery and could not drive or take care of her and his sister was out of the country, so guess who got to take care of her while in ICU? Alzheimer’s is a real disease and not very pleasant to deal with.
Have been saying all along foriegn policy was the reason for the outcome in 2006 and will be the driving force in 2008.
And BECAUSE John McCain is so closely tied to GWB’s foriegn policy beliefs I and many other people will not vote for him.
I’m in with the in crowd, I go where the in crowd goes
I’m in with the in crowd and I know what the in crowd knows
Anytime of the year, don’t you hear? Dressing fine, making time
We breeze up and down the street, we get respect from the people we meet
They make way day or night, they know the in crowd is out of sight
I’m in with the in crowd, I know every latest dance
When you’re in with the in crowd, it’s so easy to find romance
Any time of the year, don’t you hear? If it’s square, we ain’t there
We make every minute count, our share is always the biggest come out
Other guys imitate us, but the original is still the greatest, in crowd!
Any time of the year, don’t you hear? Spendin’ cash, talkin’ trash
I’ll show you a real good time, come on with me, leave your troubles
behind
I don’t care where you’ve been, you ain’t been nowhere til you’ve been
in
WIth the in crowd, with the in crowd, in crowd
LizBV Says:
May 17th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Have been saying all along foriegn policy was the reason for the outcome in 2006 and will be the driving force in 2008.
And BECAUSE John McCain is so closely tied to GWB’s foriegn policy beliefs I and many other people will not vote for him.
Really?
Which candidates in the 2006 election were turned out as a result of Bush’s Foereign Policy?
Most voters were concerned with the economy and the “Culture of Corruption” from what I read.
120 - I was pointing out that your assertion - “In both races, a Deomcrat who was more Conservative than the Republican won.” was incorrect.
I acknowledge that Cazayoux is a conservative…but I also understand that is the only only shot that Dems had in that district. A true liberal would have gotten less than 25% of the vote.
At this point I would take a conservative Dem over a liberal repub in a heartbeat. Torture, domestic spying, cronyism, incompetence, neglecting Americans, a war based on lies, party over country, the political over the public good, global warming deniers, stupid diplomacy, etc. Yes more Dems please.
#116 Meglet - I feel for what your family is going through. Took care of Dad for 3 years at home before he passed.
Alzheimer’s patients qualify for in home Hospice care. They are angels wearing skin and provide everything - hospital beds, all medical equipment, medications, sitters, counseling, chaplains, nurses, cna’s, doctors, you name it. Could not have done it w/o their help and can’t sing their praises enough.
Don’t know where your grandma will be, but they are everywhere. Used Houston Hospice with Mom and Fort Bend Hospice with Dad.
They’ll come to your home, do an assessment and take it from there. It will still be physically and emotionally exhausting, but I have no clue how people get thru it w/o their help.
(PS - Alzheimers patients can still manage to find their way out of a hospital bed with both protective side bars up…)
And the reaso why I focus on that, HouDem is that the rest of wht you charge is based merely on opinion.
The alegation you make about a “war based on lies” can be proven by imperical fact.
what are those facts?
Can you tell us what lies were told to the American people that were known to be lies and werre intended to get us into a war?
The reason why I ask, is that the people who claim tha the lies were made have been in a position for the past two years to punish those respopnsible for making them, and proving to us that they were made in the process, and failed to do so.
I want them to be held accoun table, too, if lies were told to get us into a war.
132 - You know that American politics is a game (and at times a joke). In an election year impeachment would have rallied the republican base. And impeachment or no impeachment Iraq would still be a mess.
houstondem Says:
May 17th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
132 - You know that American politics is a game (and at times a joke). In an election year impeachment would have rallied the republican base. And impeachment or no impeachment Iraq would still be a mess.
so ylou admit that the Democrats made the decision based on “good of the4party” over “good of the Nation” by not punishing those responsible for lying to get us into a war?
Torture, domestic spying, cronyism, incompetence, neglecting Americans, a war based on lies, party over country, the political over the public good, global warming deniers, stupid diplomacy, etc.
Quite a list there, Demmy. Cronyism? Let’s hope if Obama manages to win he doesn’t bring his cronies in. Racist black separatists, murdering domestic terrorists, Jew-hating Palestinian terrorist apologists. Neglecting Americans? Have you seen the ballooning domestic budget??? Public good? Every time a Democrat talks about “public good” I hold onto my wallet because it always means higher taxes. Global warming deniers? Dat’s funny. Ten years from now you’ll be following the chicken little scientists preaching the impending global cooling. Must be torturous to be so self-loathing. And as for the “war based on lies”, well, no sense in exposing that particular liberal lie again. Just know this - no matter how many times you repeat the lie its still a lie.
135 - LIE #1: “The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program … Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons.” — President Bush, Oct. 7, 2002, in Cincinnati.
LIE #2: “The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.” — President Bush, Jan.28, 2003, in the State of the Union address.
LIE #3: “We believe [Saddam] has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons.” — Vice President Cheney on March 16, 2003 on “Meet the Press.”
LIE #4: “[The CIA possesses] solid reporting of senior-level contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda going back a decade.” — CIA Director George Tenet in a written statement released Oct. 7, 2002 and echoed in that evening’s speech by President Bush.
LIE #5: “We’ve learned that Iraq has trained al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases … Alliance with terrorists could allow the Iraqi regime to attack America without leaving any fingerprints.” — President Bush, Oct. 7.
LIE #6: “We have also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We are concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs [unmanned aerial vehicles] for missions targeting the United States.” — President Bush, Oct. 7.
LIE #7: “We have seen intelligence over many months that they have chemical and biological weapons, and that they have dispersed them and that they’re weaponized and that, in one case at least, the command and control arrangements have been established.” — President Bush, Feb. 8, 2003, in a national radio address.
LIE #8: “Our conservative estimate is that Iraq today has a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agent. That is enough to fill 16,000 battlefield rockets.” — Secretary of State Colin Powell, Feb. 5 2003, in remarks to the UN Security Council.
LIE #9: “We know where [Iraq’s WMD] are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat.” — Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003, in statements to the press.
LIE #10: “Yes, we found a biological laboratory in Iraq which the UN prohibited.” — President Bush in remarks in Poland, published internationally June 1, 2003.
“Vote for us. We won’t punish any Presidenmts who get usninto wars based on lies because ti might energize thier base and the war zone will still be a mess.”
fits right in with:
“We don’t think you should impeach a President who commits Perjury in Federal Court because everybody lies about sex.”
137 - If Obama brings in Wright, Ayers or Rezko to serve in his cabinet or gives them cushy jobs in his administration…it will be a problem. Until that happens I am not going to worry about it too much.
Was Bush the first President to make those claims?
Or was he provided the exact same evidence that led a previous, Democrat President to come to exactly the same conclusions regarding Iraq’s WMD capability?
And are these LIERS?
You’re going to have to prove that the President knew none of this was true when he made the claim.
That’s what lies ARE.
What you have given us is a list of intelligence failures, not lies.
#116 Meglet, Bless you for helping out with your Ganny. Had a similar experience with my Mom’s nd broken hip repair in hospital and earlier her weekend in ICU waiting to have a failed pacemaker replaced. These happened when she had mentally deteriorated significantly–Alzheimer’s, who knows?–and it is so hard to absorb what her behavior had become.
Hope Liz’s experience and suggestions are helpful to your family. It is a most difficult situation to cope with.
houstondem Says:
May 17th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
142 - The difference is that the previous administration did not get us stuck in Iraq.
And that the previous Administration responded to Terrorists by using negotiation and Law Enforcement.
Which resulted in unanswered, and continually escalating Terrorist attacks dierctly on soverieng territory of the United States:
New York City
Air Force Barracks
Two embassies
Navy Destroyer
The Twin Towers
Haw many atacks have been made on Sovereign US territory since 2001?
How many attacks on Americans have resulted in the perpetrators of those attacks coming up against Americans with the means and opportunity to kill them?
Iraqi forces have detained more than 1,000 suspects in an offensive aimed at crushing al-Qaida in northern Iraq, the military commander of the operation said on Saturday.
Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki returned to Baghdad on Saturday after spending several days in the city of Mosul and surrounding Nineveh province to supervise the crackdown.
Many gunmen from Sunni Islamist al-Qaida have regrouped in Nineveh after being pushed out of other areas. The U.S. military said Mosul is al-Qaida’s last major urban stronghold in Iraq. …
Defense Ministry spokesman Major-General Mohammed al-Askari said scores of militants had already handed over their guns.
We have helped to create a Muslim Nation that operates a Democracy that fights Al Queda.
Was kind of the whole point of the War on Terror.
Not enhancing the prestige of terrorist supporters by having a President of the United States negotiate with them without pre-conditions.
Like: If you stop invaiding your neighbor to kill American Soldiers and disrupt thier Democracy, we can sit down and talk.
You provide us with evidence you say is enough to priove that the President lied to get us into a war.
Then, you claim the reason why the Democrat Party did not honor is Consitutional and moral responibilities to impeach a President who lied to get us into a war based on political considerations, rather than use the Impeachment, and the irrefutable proof of those lies to guarantee your election this year (you say that the lies are rteson enough to vote for you—how could proving them in an impeachment harm you?)
At the minor risk of being perceived as a bit COLD……..kneemail is on the way to the Kennedy family - but NOT to Terrible Ted…..sorry folks that worthless excuse for a human has wasted enough of our precious oxygen.
#116 Meglet, I always enjoy reading you, but am so sorry to hear you are in this trying time. The disease is insidious because it takes the person you know and love, and kills that person, but leaves the body alive. You are among friends, and it’s good to get things off your chest…. rant on.
You wanna know why I think the Democrats didn’t impeach the President?
Because they knew that he didn;t lie to get us into the war and bringing a false prosecution against him would result in thier eing out of power for the next 50 years.
That makes a lot more sense than claiming that proving that he lied was going to cost them politically, so they chose not to—and then two years later go around claiming that he lied to get us into a war.
Sarge, to answer your question. We have plenty of time to prop up McCain. It’s important to let the GOP know how we feel. We have laughed here about the repetitive survey the RNC sends out with the same bullet points for us to check off, and a big space to donate. People were saying the same things we do. 1. Do you ever read that thing you send out. DO you read what I write to you when I send it back, with no money? Now is the time for the Republican party to understand how dire things are…….. and make a plan. Form some good ideas, stick to them, find a friggin leader and move on.
You have your definition of a lie and I have mine. And as far as impeachment goes look at what happened in 1998…it does no good. History is going to judge Bush as a succcess or a failure. And God is going to judge where Bush will go in his afterlife. Right now we just need solutions to get out of Iraq. I know your ilk like the dog-and-pony shows but personally I would rather have a democratic-controlled house, senate and whitehouse than go through silly impeachment proceedings.
I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree. You believe this war to be just and right. You believe this president has made no mistakes in conjunction with Iraq. You believe the 4000+ soldiers lost and the countless Iraqis lost is just the reality of war. You believe the 100’s of billions of dollars has been an efficient use of money and has made us safer. And well I don’t.
Sarge, you asked Houstondem for facts supporting his/her arguments, received them promptly, and then ignored them.
The fact that the democrats didn’t have the guts to impeach Bush is sad & true, but pales in comparison to the lies George W. Bush & Co. repeated to the degree necessary to convince a frightened population represented by gutless politicians that invading Iraq was a necessary step in fighting terrorism.
If this were a real debate, I’d be tossing points to Houstondem.
Sadly, who moves into the White House in January depends on the republicans convincing voters that invading Iraq was a good idea when it was clearly a colossal mistake.
You have your definition of a lie and I have mine. And as far as impeachment goes look at what happened in 1998…it does no good.
If your claims of a President were so easily proven as to be able to go to a website and read his statements, then the Deomcrats most certainly either shirked a Constitutional and Moral responsibility to inpeach him and thus insure the utter destruction of the Republican Party.
Or
They knew (and still know) that it’s all hog wash and serves them better to make the claims in forums where the burden of proof is set at a very low threshold.
Sadly, who moves into the White House in January depends on the republicans convincing voters that invading Iraq was a good idea when it was clearly a colossal mistake.
Really?
How many Al Queda members were being killed and captured by Saddam Hussein?
Shakie if you think Ted Kennedy’s being a senator for 40 plus years, living a good life……enjoying it….. having power, then passing is an eye for an eye to a young woman, never married, never to experience anything…… I don’t see that. I don’t think Mr.Fish meant anymore or less than he said. I can’t speak for Mr.Fish, but am guessing he did not mean to start a brew-ha-ha….. but was just expressing strong emotion. I immediately thought of her parents when I heard the news. Wondering if they would feel it was finally over, but then realizing they are probably long dead.
#175 We were told outright that our invasion of Iraq was necessary and would be of limited duration. The people that worked so hard to develop that as a popular perception are either hopelessly stupid, or lying.
I would pay real money to see you voting for Obama under any circumstances, if we could get past that pesky secret ballot thing. Forgive me if I sound a little pessimistic, but the only way I can envision such a scenario involves firearms in some fashion.
bob42 Says:
May 17th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
#175 We were told outright that our invasion of Iraq was necessary and would be of limited duration. The people that worked so hard to develop that as a popular perception are either hopelessly stupid, or lying.
May 17th, 2008 at 12:20 am
Wow, it has been a long time since I was first……………
May 17th, 2008 at 12:23 am
See it pays to work late and check your email before going to bed. When you get up this is my Mornin all, another day that God has given to us.™
May 17th, 2008 at 12:31 am
I attended the Annual Memorial Service at the Police Officers Memorial Friday night. Someone STOLE one of my digital field recorders I set up to capture the pipes in spit of all those guns present. Up editing the pics shot & audio captured on my second unit. Next year I’ll bring my own bazooka.
May 17th, 2008 at 2:42 am
I have 6 bear recipes, if anyone needs some…
May 17th, 2008 at 5:12 am
I am just Bearly awake. It’s almost Denny’s time
May 17th, 2008 at 5:15 am
Will this bear be on the “threatened species” list next?
May 17th, 2008 at 5:44 am
That bear doesn’t look very “holy”.
May 17th, 2008 at 6:24 am
That bear is sticking his tongue out at us, and Shakie is right, ” holy” he isn’t
May 17th, 2008 at 6:54 am
Hey Boo Boo…
May 17th, 2008 at 7:41 am
Bear looks like he’s been after honey and at least one honey producer is after him. Maybe there was an ouch after this pic was taken.
May 17th, 2008 at 7:46 am
Mornin’ and Final Howdy, LSTers
I know, I know, and I’ll just assume that most don’t care and that’s fine. I thought seriously about sending thise to Matt to see if he’d post to start a thread (Geez, how pretentious would that have been), but it’s not worth the time and hassle.
I am actually sitting here with a knotted stomach, as if I’m writing some kind of resignation or suicide note–something–needless to say on my part, I have been thinking about this since last evening and all of this morning.
I got involved in a “discussion” yesterday here in the OC regarding the Gay marriage thing–for once I thought it was a discussion, and although differing opinions were espoused, the 2 or 3 of us were putting forth our beliefs and understandings for our own sides. No, we won’t/don’t fundamentally agree–that makes us human–and that’s what separates us from other forms of life on this planet–our ability to reason and discuss (sometimes quite heatedly) our viewpoints, beliefs and standing on any various subjects and issues.
Anyway, I thought we had a fair discussion, no one changed their minds, it was (or so I thought) an open and frank discussion on the merits and reasons for standing against or for the Strike-down of the gay marriage ban in California and the overall discussion of where we individually stand on the controversial issue.
In full disclosure, I started off my part with an off-handed (evidently, too shrouded in stealth) jest about gays using the wrong end of a gun, but then proceeded to explain, I just don’t want gays being able to use the term “marriage” because of it’s sacred definition of “a man & a woman” in tradition, law and over a 1000 years of history. I also, repeated that I felt they deserve some sort of legal avenue to as many rights and benefits as we “married”, just not using the term marriage, use “civil union or partnership”.
I also joined a few that made the likely point that if gays are able to use the term marriage, why wouldn’t other, less tradiotional and some objectionable, groups be allowed the same availability. I suppose it’s because of the last or maybe my whole point, and let’s face it, I am opinionated and adamant about several issues (Heavens forbid), but that’s what this blog is for isn’t it? To come discuss and generally disagree with one another on a host of political issues and subjects?
To the point finally, I understand now what the folks “over yonder”, as I call it, some call “across the hall”, some say, “next door”, say about the folks here in LST and how the name for OY came about–I’ve been doing that since last evening, shaking my head.
A person, someone I consider a friend now after sharing IMs and EM off blog, someone I respect and have concern for their opinion has labeled me a gay basher and “the stereotypical right-wing nut” for putting down my thoughts, not in here but OY, where, typically, we try to take everything with a HUGE grain of salt and use a little more frank language, shall we say, and well, most of you traverse there as well, so you know.
I guess where I’m at, and a lot will go back to “you’re too sensitive”, etc., but, I don’t care–the left prides itself on it’s “open-mindedness”–BS, they’re no more openminded than I am, and NO one has ever accused me of that sin; it’s no secret to any here how stubborn and rabidly conservative I am, as well as obtuse and too quick to anger I can be. Very well, that’s me, and I will tell you this, I’m probably all of those things and more, but yesterday, I was not gay bashing–the only time I used the term “faggot” was in referring to HAL for not allowing my youtube video to be posted (the one I have posted every Friday afternoon that I have been online and in the OC on Friday).
So, here’s the deal–I understand where OY came from, and I may go there again (probably will much to their sonsternation), I may not–my time here is done and that’s okay. I was asked to come back, but the magority have ignored me here since my retrun–folks that I thought had become friends either don’t adress me specifically, won’t respond directly or only reply obliquely to my posting . Fine, again, I was asked back for my “honesty” and input to discussion, but generally none really want it.
So Wahhh, Wahhhh, I’m going to leave and you can’t stop me–yeah, yeah I know, but I really feel like I’m losing something in the leaving, but it is what it is.
Everyone here knows of my recent troubles and issues, and some have been very supportive, some have been embarrassed to witness or hear my pleas, some (maybe most don’t care) that’s all good to and now, it will be better.
So bash those that think differently than you, don’t hold the same opinion, etc., but don’t ever say you have an open mind–no one in here does–we are all the same in that we wouldn’t come here if we didn’t think our opinion was better than anyone elses–that we come to see our words in print/on-line–that we are all selfish and pretentious *with the exception of the few*–we all come here to read ourselves and espouse our beliefs; at least be honest with yourselves and undersatnd we’re all the same, we just have different veiwpoints. They aren’t wrong (well, some may be), they’re just different.
C’ya, Adios, Out, Good Luck and G’bye
Singned,
Stereotypical Right-Wing Nut
/and damn proud of it
May 17th, 2008 at 8:00 am
Dammit, couldn’t even “singn” out correctly!
May 17th, 2008 at 8:10 am
So, let me get this straight. You have a nice discussion, here on LST, where your opinions are not bashed. Then, you go to your other hangout and your “friend” calls you “a gay basher and “the stereotypical right-wing nut” for putting down my thoughts, not in here but OY”.
And that results in you bashing LST.
Got it.
May 17th, 2008 at 8:16 am
#11
Aren’t we thin skinned.
May 17th, 2008 at 8:16 am
BJ,
Discussion was in here not there–was ended OY as the finality of discussion where we both were at the time. I’m sure it would’ve been over here if thread hadn’t died.
Thanks for all, BJ.
besides, no tears will be shed
May 17th, 2008 at 8:19 am
Adios.
May 17th, 2008 at 8:27 am
Good morning all. Another wonderful day to embrace beginning with 56 (yea) at 6. Sunrise hasn’t been visible at the horizon here for some time as movement north toward the Summer Solstice puts him behind lots of trees with thick foliage. This morning clouds above had pink streaks among their soft blue/gray blankets and a pinkish aura extending far to the edges of light sky. A beautiful and peaceful vision for the early riser gives a welcome escape from daily tribulations. Thank you, Lord.
Spouse’s coffee will have that special aroma in the cool again this morning, and hot chocolate will be the very thing for me. Indulgence here is appropriate. Meanwhile Mariposa has been greased lightning chasing her toys and occasionally pouncing on Berry and Val before they went outside, more like escaped her. Gotta find some way to bottle that energy.
Yesterday provided a real-life window into the cruelty/stupidity/laziness of some humans. In the grocery store parking lot near my car I found a box of 4 tiny kittens alongside the curb, abandoned with no mother, blanket, water, or food. They couldn’t be more tha 4 weeks old, barely had eyes open, hungry, cold, likely dehydrated.
I summoned an asistant manager, we brought the box just inside the store to get them out of the cold wind, and another staff lady called the humane society. One lady on her way out with groceries looked at the huddled orphans, picked one up and said she’d take it. We asked if she wanted a towel to wrap it in, she said no, I’m only going 2 blocks and it can ride in my lap. She just asked if the store carried nursing bottles for kittens (they do) and said she’d be back for some after she got kitty home. God bless her.
Another lady leaving the store saw, stopped, and said she’d get a blanket from her car to warm them. A few minutes later a staff lady who’d been involved in the rescue from the start happily came up with a shopping cart and said the blanket donor would take them home. Relief all the way around our little knot of concerned ladies as she put the box in the cart and went off to deliver them. God bless the adoptive lady.
Amazingly this upsetting scenario resolved in less than 15 minutes thanks to the kindness of several store staff ladies and shoppers. Kudos to the management and staff of the Randalls at Pecan Grove on FM 359.
May 17th, 2008 at 8:28 am
KB happy Trails dude………but I cannot ‘not’ speak MY mind either………
everyone sing along!
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
IIIIIIIIIIIIIII
CCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
D-R-A-M-AAAAAAAAAA
May 17th, 2008 at 8:28 am
KB: Don’t be toooo thin skinned from the reaction that you get from some on this blog. It is what it is… a blog where folks of many different backgrounds, ideals, religions, personal and political beliefs and ones with specifiic agendas do post their thoughts and positions.. some to “our” liking and some not so hot. Some use logic and reasoning. Some use common sense to get their point across and some use facts to back up their statements. Some don’t. Every once in a while we’ll get a few trolls stirring the pot and just out for a reaction from the readers. The very best way that most of us have found to react to those is to not respond at all and ignore them. If they don’t get a response, they eventually give up and move on. When we do respond, it just adds fuel to the fire. Then there are those who would argue with a brick wall just for the sake of arguing. Some have good/great motives/ some not so good. Some of us are full of spit and vinegar and just have a good time and try to lift each others spirits. Some times it’s fun and all in good taste. Sometimes it’s not. Try not to take those not so good times so personal.
We (I for one) enjoy your posts and your opinions. There are some of us that do care about our fellow man/woman. Sorry to see you go.
May 17th, 2008 at 8:28 am
Nice story, Adee.
May 17th, 2008 at 8:30 am
#11
If you are leaving because you think somebody or many bodies think less of you, well I say you are leaving for the wrong reason. *&#$ them, and it a fact no matter what anyone says no one have a completely “open mind” if they tell you they do they are a bold face liar. (Sorry simply human nature)
I don’t post much but after lurking here for a year + the one thing I have noticed is there is one big “in” club. (Remember those petty little groups in high school) and if you are not part of it you do not get much response. (Unless you come in here and put out some bate)
I have seen a person here that lives in her own “planet” and to say she tends to “stretch” a story is an understatement but since she is part of this group no one calls her on it.
Stick around and post away no matter who does or does not respond it’s always better to get different peoples views.
May 17th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Mr. Fish,
Might I add….
Q-U-E-E-NNNNNNNNNN
May 17th, 2008 at 8:33 am
#17 - MsAdee darlin you are solid as the proverbial ROCK - when I see your name it’s (in best Justin Wilson voice) GUAR AUN TEED good reading!
May 17th, 2008 at 8:34 am
#22 - BigJ naw man now your changing the sacred Mouse-ke-teer ditty! If yer gonna plagiarize famous tunage ya gotta at least stick to the pentameter (or whatever it’s called)
heeheeheehee
May 17th, 2008 at 8:45 am
#13 - Maybe its the evil influence of LST that turned him into a “Stereotypical Right-Wing Nut”? Evil LST caused him to wish that homosexuals commit suicide? Its a little known fact that LST runs on butterfly wings and ground puppy meat. I don’t know. Bizarre. But they all come back.
Kent, you forgot to say “DELETE MY ACCOUNT!”
May 17th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Kneemail continues for Ms ST’s Grand mama………………………..no broken bones!
But a LOTTA pai
May 17th, 2008 at 8:46 am
pain* even
May 17th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Happy Saturday all. Put some good stuff in those memory banks!
Edd Was in Trouble
He forgot his wedding anniversary. His wife was really angry. She told him, “Tomorrow morning, I expect to find a gift in the driveway that goes from 0 to 200 in less than 10 seconds AND IT BETTER BE THERE!!”
The next morning Edd got up early and left for work. When his wife woke up, she looked out the window and sure enough there was a box gift-wrapped in the middle of the driveway. Confused, the wife put on her robe and ran out to the driveway, brought the box back in the house. She opened it and found a brand new bathroom scale.
Edd has been missing since Friday.
May 17th, 2008 at 8:49 am
Now I’m intrigued as I mentally scroll through the Gorgeous Ladies of LST.
May 17th, 2008 at 8:51 am
Yeah, I was trying to figure that one out myself.
I’m still a bit puzzled about a guy that gets into a civil discussion at one bar, wanders across the street to another bar, sees a patron from the first bar, gets into an argument with them and gets pasted, then gets mad at the first bar.
For what? Letting the patron wander across the street?
May 17th, 2008 at 8:54 am
In hindsight, that comment was definitely front page discussion material. I say send it on to Matt, he’ll post it and get LST’s first Pulitzer, thus beating the Chron!
May 17th, 2008 at 8:54 am
LDS - Not Latter Day Saints but LST Derangement Syndrome.
May 17th, 2008 at 8:59 am
Hammy: Re UR #28 - Me too. Can’t figure that one out. I didn’t think anyone was cut that much slack around here.
Saturday funny: Edd Was in Trouble
He forgot his wedding anniversary. His wife was really angry. She told him, “Tomorrow morning, I expect to find a gift in the driveway that goes from 0 to 200 in less than 5 seconds AND IT BETTER BE THERE!!”
The next morning Edd got up early and left for work. When his wife woke up, she looked out the window and sure enough there was a box gift-wrapped in the middle of the driveway. Confused, the wife put on her robe and ran out to the driveway, brought the box back in the house. She opened it and found a brand new bathroom scale.
Edd has been missing since Friday.
/ Not “OUR” Edd.
May 17th, 2008 at 8:59 am
malcolm,
We’re going to put some memories in the bank. Have a guy coming to ride the bike that I have for sale, we’re going to ride all day. Leaving in about 45 minutes. New seats on the VTX, gonna relax and enjoy the breeze.
May 17th, 2008 at 9:00 am
OK Hal, What’s going on? Last two posts never showed.
May 17th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Neverrrrmind. They just did. Got to get Hal some vitamins.
May 17th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Someone must’ve put steroids in HAL. Stopped two of mine already this morning too.
May 17th, 2008 at 9:03 am
Welp that RNCC blog is STILL on fire and I took the liberty of posting at Juan McWarming’s own blog……….where the same hue & cry is at LEAST as fervent if not more so……..
http://www.johnmccain.com/Blog/Read.aspx?guid=2fb5d4ca-732c-4d9a-bd65-d6ccaa56ae98
May 17th, 2008 at 9:07 am
There are a couple law enforcement officers on here that can help me out with this question. On TV when a cop is suspended or quits his job, they turn in their gun. Don’t you buy your own guns? It would not make sense to turn in what you purchased. I know I am talking about TV, but I was just wondering.
May 17th, 2008 at 9:14 am
#39 - Just a guess from this desk - I can only imagine that perhaps Police Dept.s pay to maintain the weapon and/or provide the weapon - that might be why they confiscate? (and this could vary from department to department)………again ONLY my guess…….
May 17th, 2008 at 9:24 am
Anyone want to play Grizzly Man with the cute, fluffy bear above?
May 17th, 2008 at 9:33 am
He-e-e-e-e-e-y!!!!!!!!!!
Sic ‘em Bears!!!!!!!!!!!
May 17th, 2008 at 9:33 am
GIG EM AGGIES!
May 17th, 2008 at 9:36 am
OK, after considerable physical pain and further threats of abuse -
SIC EM BEARS!
May 17th, 2008 at 9:36 am
In the immortal words of jimb,
DELETE MY ACCOUNT! DELETE MY ACCOUNT! I’m never posting here again EVER!
Another one bites the dust. Who’s starting the pool on when he comes back?
May 17th, 2008 at 9:42 am
# 39
Sometimes the badge is surrendered. Not the weapon ! The weapon usually belongs to the Officer.
May 17th, 2008 at 9:44 am
After reading KentBook’s resignation post above, I just had to go back to Friday’s OC and see what all the fuss was. I always like a good disagreement. — I was really disappointed. Hardly anything there. He had more trouble with HAL than he did with the LST posters. Evidently his trouble was OY, not here. Not exactly a good reason to quit LST, but who am I to say.
May 17th, 2008 at 9:45 am
What was # 11 all about ?
May 17th, 2008 at 9:46 am
#47 bigmck - Whew! I thought it was just me.
May 17th, 2008 at 9:52 am
By now I figure everyone has seen video of Bill O’Reilly “losing it” on set. This parody version includes a conversation between Bill-O and the producer.
Content advisory: Language, Bill O’Reilly
May 17th, 2008 at 9:59 am
#29
hamous
Let me know who you think it is when you figure it out.
Until then I will make cncfan the person that is in her OWN little group and loves to lie about other people. But then again that IMO.
May 17th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Help, I’ve lost all my marbles (or maybe my bearings). If you find my marbles, let me know so I can take them and go home.
May 17th, 2008 at 10:06 am
” Then, you go to your other hangout ”
” wanders across the street to another bar”
BJ, let me help ya, it’s called HeadShaker dot com
Where you are always welcome for a good mature discussion of any topic you desire.
This was good and worth repeating:
cncfan Says:
May 17th, 2008 at 8:30 am
#11
If you are leaving because you think somebody or many bodies think less of you, well I say you are leaving for the wrong reason. *&#$ them, and it a fact no matter what anyone says no one have a completely “open mind” if they tell you they do they are a bold face liar. (Sorry simply human nature)
I don’t post much but after lurking here for a year + the one thing I have noticed is there is one big “in” club. (Remember those petty little groups in high school) and if you are not part of it you do not get much response. (Unless you come in here and put out some bate)
Peace and love everyone………
May 17th, 2008 at 10:16 am
El Capon - I don’t know about worth repeating, but this was the funniest thing I’ve read so far this weekend:
Of course, the weekend’s still young.
May 17th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Here is my funny for the morning……….
Hillary Rodham Clinton is for banning all guns in America.
At a recent rural elementary school meeting in north Florida she asked the kids audience for total quiet.
Then, in the silence, she started to slowly clap her hands, once every few seconds.
Holding the audience in total silence, she said into the microphone, “Every time I clap my hands, a child in America dies from gun violence.”
A young voice with a proud southern accent pierced the quiet,
“Well, stop clappin, ya stupid b$tch!”
May 17th, 2008 at 10:22 am
I beleive you are seeing this happen on cop shows that are based in NYC such as Law and Order. I could be wrong, but I bleive cops have toturn in thier guns because it’s against the law in NYC to own and carry a handgun without a permit, or being a policeman on duty. But when suspended, so is the ability to carry a gun without a permit.
The SCOTUS ruling on the Washington DC handgun ban is going to have some very interesting consequences—-
May 17th, 2008 at 10:27 am
Who is in the “in club.” I would like to know so I don’t have to spend so much time reading every post. If I could find out who the “in club” is, then I could just read their posts and ignore all the others, thus saving a lot of time while not missing anything from those poor, intellectually inferior posters whose information is probably not worth knowing anyway.
Please advise at your earliest convenience.
Your friend,
Rastus
May 17th, 2008 at 10:29 am
An interesting article, specifically in the scientific aspect. Out of the entire world, more than half of all known cases are in Arizona.
http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635182923,00.html
“Birth defect is plaguing children in FLDS towns”
May 17th, 2008 at 10:31 am
In Texas in the 80’s I was issued a weapon (.38) to carry and a shotgun was kept in the trunk of the vehicle. I also had my own weapon. Both state issued weapons were returned when I quit and I kept my own.
May 17th, 2008 at 10:35 am
I re-read yesterday’s thread (and the related comments at the other site) and still don’t understand why Kent got his panties in a knot. Perhaps it’s just more evidence that men also experience the symptoms of PMS.
So long for now, Kent. And to answer your question from yesterday, I don’t mind sharing that I was married for a long time and am now single.
May 17th, 2008 at 10:35 am
54 Hamous as we all know something is only worth what you are willing to pay for it.
Posting comments on a blog and reading them costs nothing. Just another way to get your 15 minutes of fame.
Have a great weekend and be careful driving.
May 17th, 2008 at 10:36 am
#57
Rastus
I wouldn’t know, I’m not in the “IN” group.
May 17th, 2008 at 10:39 am
# 58
“Around here,” Wyler said, “you’re pretty much related to everybody.”
Pretty much says it all. (Deliverance comes to mind)
Usually on Saturdays I start the day with a wonderful breakfast at Denny’s. Todays was terrible. Good food but accompanied by a whining, screaming brat and her mother just let her scream “I want Daddy” all the while.
Most parents can handle their children in a better way.
May 17th, 2008 at 10:40 am
C’mon HAL Koff it up
May 17th, 2008 at 10:41 am
#54 - Hammy……..”mature” is at LEAST as subjective as the endless interpretations of our Constitution wouldn’tcha say?
HEH
May 17th, 2008 at 10:47 am
Breaking news - Ted Kennedy rushed to hospital. Possible stroke.
May 17th, 2008 at 10:51 am
Kennedy has got my prayers.
May 17th, 2008 at 10:54 am
At the minor risk of being perceived as a bit COLD……..kneemail is on the way to the Kennedy family - but NOT to Terrible Ted…..sorry folks that worthless excuse for a human has wasted enough of our precious oxygen.
May 17th, 2008 at 11:01 am
# 67
Not mine
I agree with Kat
May 17th, 2008 at 11:02 am
Mr. Fish
Having recently dodged a huge bullet concerning strokes and seeing the devastation first hand on those that have suffered a stroke, I would not wish that on anyone.
I have no use for Teddy but I cannot wish death on him. I just wish he would retire and go away.
May 17th, 2008 at 11:03 am
#70 - Squawkster I totally “get” what you say sir……….but the demise of Terrible Ted falls under ‘the needs of the many completely overriding the needs of ONE’ IMHO……
May 17th, 2008 at 11:04 am
I also refuse to lower myself to the level of the DailyKosers and Huffingtons that rejoiced when Cheney had his heart attacks.
May 17th, 2008 at 11:08 am
#72 - PLEASE don’t get me wrong sir!
I’m not joyous……….more like impatient for inevitability to complete itself…..
May 17th, 2008 at 11:08 am
May 17th, 2008 at 11:17 am
“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.”–Joseph Goebbels
May 17th, 2008 at 11:24 am
My Mom having suffered several strokes in her dotage, the last of which took her ability to speak more than mumbles, barely missed taking her ability to swallow anything solid, and likely also took much of her ability to interact with the world, I likewise would not wish that on anyone.
As you said in #71 Squawk, I hope he retires now.
May 17th, 2008 at 11:27 am
LST’s policy regarding ideological opponents who suffer earthly misfortune is well-established and nonnegotiable; please, everyone, abide.
May 17th, 2008 at 11:29 am
#77 - Roger THAT DB……..aint nuttin butta thang
May 17th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Adee
My heart goes out to you and your Mom.
May 17th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Hey let’s remember KentBook is currently going through some hard times, a person can only handle so much at one time and we all can get a little irrational when facing tough decisions. So be a little understanding, give him some space, and back off. Not an excuse, just a reminder.
May 17th, 2008 at 11:33 am
My biggest dread about Kennedy leaving us is the unstoppable rants about what a great guy he was, excellent father and husband and that he did so much for so many. I’d rather he live.
May 17th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Am I still in the “IN” crowd? Gotta love it!
May 17th, 2008 at 11:40 am
Mark Steyn is, quite simply, one of the most brilliant men of our Generation:
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/president-obama-words-2044703-bush-talking
As the man said:
Read the whole thing.
May 17th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Back from working sites this morning. We started on Long Point, where no loitering signs were posted. We set up our signs, the police came and moved them out. Later we went to Tanner, stopped 4 pick-ups. I will have news about the Steubner site soon. It looks like it will be really good news. But, can’t say much yet.
I did hear that the amnesty bill being shoved at us again allows as many farm workers to come in as needed to work the crops, but it doesn’t protect their wage. There is another bill that is in going through the ranks, that allows as many farm workers as needed to come in, but, they must be paid minimum wage, at least. We are for the second. Don’t ask me how we will get them to leave, once they quit picking, but with a minimum wage requirement, we won’t be flooded because farmers won’t hire tons.
Anyway, I have been asked to beg everyone to please contact the politicians to stop this attachment.
May 17th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Sarge - The problem is that those of us with more of a military mind can see right through the “talkers” but the others still want to talk. Talking solves so darn much you know.
May 17th, 2008 at 11:58 am
The sooner we get out of the *&&#$#@ UN the better!
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSL1684309820080516?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true
May 17th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Another embarrassment for Texas.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/15/cbsnews_investigates/main4102226.shtml?source=mostpop_story
May 17th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
This link explains the bill better than I can. To the right is the guy who heads US Border Watch’s pic.
http://www.infousamagazine.com/news/117/ARTICLE/2757/2008-05-16.html
May 17th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
AW
The Stuebner site had about 20 and most of them were on the easement not the Valero
May 17th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Well;
According to the talkers, having been in the military renders you incapable of decent thought on the subject:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/17/harkin-fear-the-military/
Got that?
If you’ve were drafted, you’re excused. But if you volunteer for service, and ESPECIALLY if you come from a long line of people who have served in the military, your mind has become twisted. You are incapable of adhering to anything other than knee jerk blood thirsty war mongering thought.
You know, like George Washington, Dwight Eisenhower, Jack Kennedy, Douglas Macarthur, Norman Schwartzkopf, etc.
Morissey exposes the i herent hypocrasy in this particularly odious interpretation:
And you read that right. Tomorrow’s New York Times is going to make the case that McCain is incapable of learning the lessons of Viet Nam because he spent five years in a POW camp being tortured to the extent that he can’t raise his arms above his shoulders, but John Kerry’s three months in country does.
May 17th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Not when I came by Dov…….the wife and I talked about how that store could still be in business. There were several standing in the drive.
May 17th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Plum scary Sarge.
May 17th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
For all the Michael Yon folks here is a great Townhall offer. Check it out. http://magazine.townhall.com/truth
May 17th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
BTW;
This all coincides with a Democrat push in Congress to portray Veterans as homeless PTSD induced suicidal rage killers under the guise of “helping them.”
An excellent response, and examples of how this is being done, comes from Some Soldiers Mom today in a response to a letter she got from a Senator who thought she was on thier side:
http://somesoldiersmom.blogspot.com/2008/05/answering-email.html
It goes on from there.
Definately required reading.
May 17th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
post in the spit bucket
May 17th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
This is for the coming bloodbath that some people believe is coming in November.
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/GOP_democrats/2008/05/14/95969.html?s=sp&promo_code=6278-1
May 17th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
#23 Katfish, You do know how to make a lady blush.
Thank you.
May 17th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
emme;
In both races, a Deomcrat who was more Conservative than the Republican won.
Something I’m happy to see.
May 17th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
#79 Squawk, In my haste to comment on Sen. Kennedy’s reported stroke I neglected to include that Mom passed away in 2001. Your kind thoughts are greatly appreciated. Just recalling it though hit pretty hard. Thank you.
May 17th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Sir Winston referred to endless negotiating as JAW, JAW, JAW in the late 1930s. Some of the current liberal Mensa bunch need to read his five volumes of The Second World War. Ahem.
May 17th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Awww for cryin out loud Serge’
That is just about stupid. At the end of the day how do you think the democrat is going to vote and with whom? More conservative compared to what?
May 17th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
It all fits in with this logic, which I have repeated many times here (and have been accused of being a “Republicans good–Democrat bad” spokesman by doing so:
“If you want more Conservative Republicans to run, reform the Democrat Party by showing them that Conservatives win elections and Liberals lose them.”
I like it when Conservative Democrats win. the more of them that do, and the more Liberals that lose, the higher the chances will be that I’ll have a Conservative to vote for some election time.
So I base my vote on a comaprison between the two candidates I am offered, then voting for the most Conservative of the two—regardless of whther I completely agree with them, or that they are not my “dream candidate.”
Uisng that calculus, I’ll be voting Republican in November. In all of the races in my district, the most Conservative candidates happen to be Republican.
I;ve said it before:
Give me a Conservative Democrat to vote for, and I will.
May 17th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Adee I found your morning prose delightful. Thank you. I’ve gone to the feed store, and am thinking of anything else I can do to put off trimming the front tree hehe. It’s not the cutting, it’s the bundling I hate.
May 17th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Put simply:
If a Republican loses to a Liberal, the only lesson the Republicans—and the Democrats— learns is that Liberals win.
If a Republican loses to somebody more Conservative than he, the lesson the Republicans—and the Democrats—learn is that Conservatives win.
May 17th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
And I truly believe that this November, the American People will be faced with the modern day equivalent of a choice between Winston Churchill and Neville Chamberlain.
I pray to God that they make the right choice.
May 17th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
#38 Katfish, Just browsed the McCain web site and see what you mean about folks being hot about his swallowing the climate change/global warming hoax.
Certainly no less angry than the RNC site. Hope the staff reads it and has the guts to show him what’s on it.
May 17th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
If you haven’t made it over to the RNCC blog, here is a great tidbit.
Here’s a virtual check to go along with the “virtual fence” on the border. I’ll also be giving you my virtual vote in November. It’s not a real vote, but if “virtual” is good enough for our country’s security, it should be good enough when you want my vote, right?
May 17th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Adee
I’d be happy if the members of the Republican hierarchy would read Sir Winston and his many lessons on honor, courage and leadership.
May 17th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
How does McCain’s approach differ from the alternative?
That’s what I want to know.
May 17th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
CONSERVATIVES, DON’T HOLD YOUR NOSE AND VOTE.
WRITE IN, WRITE IN, WRITE IN, WRITE IN, WRITE IN,
DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT
YOU DO HAVE A CHOICE.
May 17th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Luv2 check out the NRCC blog. Folks are given em he**. All states have folks who feel the same way we do.
http://blog.nrcc.org/comment.cfm?entry_id=400
May 17th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
#11 - Yeppers they (no WE) are lit up…………
Juan McWarming is making me really consider witholding my vote altogether - and muttin p$$$$$$$’s me off more than gettin p$$$$$$$$$$’d!
May 17th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
May 17th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Sarge, Republicans bad, Republicans bad may not be an improvement but it’s truth.
May 17th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
And I’m sorry folks:
My concern over the foreign policy of this country being turned over to somebody who is the preferred candidate of both American and Islamic terrorists, and who will negotiate without preconditions with the three biggest supporters of terrorism—two of which are actively engaged in killing American soldiers—kind of trumps any concern I might have over the Global Warming policy of either of the candidates.
May 17th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Wow…I must have really missed a lot of good ranting this week if people are leaving.
I’ve been more out than in because my granny is in the hospital. Looks like she’s going home today but will be having kyphoplasty to repair a compression fracture in her L2 vertebrae. She has Alzheimer’s as well so this whole hospital thing has been quite the challenge. Someone has to be with her at all times. She has pulled her IV out three times and her catheter out once and when she is awake she is constantly messing with everything and/or trying to get out of the bed. On the one hand she acts like the biggest drama queen you ever saw when they come to draw blood (she has no idea what they’re doing and just putting the little band around her arm she made it sound like they were killing her when I know good and well those bands don’t really hurt) and yet somehow she wants to pull out her IV and catheter and doesn’t make a noise! Going home will mean we won’t have to worry about those things but they will have to get a hospital bed and clear out a downstairs room for her. We are trying to move them (my grandparents & granny) to a house with more bedrooms downstairs but we’re having a hard time finding the right house for them.
Because my aunts had previously planned a vacation this weekend they were unavailable to help with Granny’s care while in the hospital (although I’m sure they didn’t have near as much fun knowing what was going on back home) so I’ve been pretty much the only one able to stay with Granny to give my grandmother a break.
So anyhow if I’m in the “in” group and got read sorry to bore you but I needed a rant.
May 17th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
And completely ignores what the Democrat postions are.
Which is very convenient for Democrats, doncha think?
May 17th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
98 - Uh, No.
From the “Rightwingnews” - “Jenkins is a conservative candidate, running for the 6th U.S. Congressional District seat in Louisiana, which is a Republican district, and he’s in a close race. This is a seat the GOP can hold and Woody Jenkins is a guy we want in Congress.”
From the “NYTimes” - “Mr. Jenkins, a champion of religious-right causes for decades, achieved notoriety in the State House 18 years ago when he brandished plastic models of fetuses on the chamber floor to bolster his anti-abortion arguments.”
Yes Cazayoux is very conservative by traditional Democratic standards but not more so than Jenkins.
Oh and Wicker got a 96/100 from the American Conservative Union in 2007.
May 17th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
AW
do you think that we, as Concervatives, should be focusing all of our attention on John McCains positions on Global Warming and the Border and not focus any on Barack Obama’as Foreign Policy?
The reason why I ask is that, Constitutionally, the only thing any President has any direct control over is Foerign Policy.
Shouldn’t all of us, therfore, make the Foreign Policy positions of either candidate the main focus of our discussion and research?
Or should we just keep focusing on “Republican bad/Republican bad”?
May 17th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
spoken like a true Democart who does not want folks to acknowledge the fact that it was somebody who is more Conservative than most Deomcrats who won the election.
The fact of the matter is, the only way the Democrats won that election was by running somebody equally, or nearly so, as conservative as the Republican alternative.
I do notice, that you guys didn;t run a Liberal in any of those races?
How come?
May 17th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Meglet,
Ignore that ‘in’ group stuff and rant on, that’s just a couple of folks that don’t have a clue about life. You’re doing great work with your grandma.
May 17th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Houstondem:
Are you guys going to give Cazayoux the Joe Lieberman treatment?
May 17th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
#116 - Meglet
I can truly relate, my mother-in-law has early stage Alzheimer’s and was hospitalized several weeks ago and gave the medical staff hell.
They called me as my husband just had surgery and could not drive or take care of her and his sister was out of the country, so guess who got to take care of her while in ICU? Alzheimer’s is a real disease and not very pleasant to deal with.
Hang in there. Don’t let others scare you off.
May 17th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Have been saying all along foriegn policy was the reason for the outcome in 2006 and will be the driving force in 2008.
And BECAUSE John McCain is so closely tied to GWB’s foriegn policy beliefs I and many other people will not vote for him.
May 17th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
#54 TOOWCS™
Beat me to it, El Poquito Capon might believe it though given his stature.
But then I saw bob42’s reference about KentBook’s PMS problems and that might be as funny.
Naw. El Poquito Capon wins. Thus far…
May 17th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
I’m in with the in crowd, I go where the in crowd goes
I’m in with the in crowd and I know what the in crowd knows
Anytime of the year, don’t you hear? Dressing fine, making time
We breeze up and down the street, we get respect from the people we meet
They make way day or night, they know the in crowd is out of sight
I’m in with the in crowd, I know every latest dance
When you’re in with the in crowd, it’s so easy to find romance
Any time of the year, don’t you hear? If it’s square, we ain’t there
We make every minute count, our share is always the biggest come out
Other guys imitate us, but the original is still the greatest, in crowd!
Any time of the year, don’t you hear? Spendin’ cash, talkin’ trash
I’ll show you a real good time, come on with me, leave your troubles
behind
I don’t care where you’ve been, you ain’t been nowhere til you’ve been
in
WIth the in crowd, with the in crowd, in crowd
May 17th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
vlou,
Good to see you. Been missing your observations.
May 17th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Really?
Which candidates in the 2006 election were turned out as a result of Bush’s Foereign Policy?
Most voters were concerned with the economy and the “Culture of Corruption” from what I read.
May 17th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
120 - I was pointing out that your assertion - “In both races, a Deomcrat who was more Conservative than the Republican won.” was incorrect.
I acknowledge that Cazayoux is a conservative…but I also understand that is the only only shot that Dems had in that district. A true liberal would have gotten less than 25% of the vote.
At this point I would take a conservative Dem over a liberal repub in a heartbeat. Torture, domestic spying, cronyism, incompetence, neglecting Americans, a war based on lies, party over country, the political over the public good, global warming deniers, stupid diplomacy, etc. Yes more Dems please.
May 17th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
#116 Meglet - I feel for what your family is going through. Took care of Dad for 3 years at home before he passed.
Alzheimer’s patients qualify for in home Hospice care. They are angels wearing skin and provide everything - hospital beds, all medical equipment, medications, sitters, counseling, chaplains, nurses, cna’s, doctors, you name it. Could not have done it w/o their help and can’t sing their praises enough.
Don’t know where your grandma will be, but they are everywhere. Used Houston Hospice with Mom and Fort Bend Hospice with Dad.
They’ll come to your home, do an assessment and take it from there. It will still be physically and emotionally exhausting, but I have no clue how people get thru it w/o their help.
(PS - Alzheimers patients can still manage to find their way out of a hospital bed with both protective side bars up…)
May 17th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
which lies would those be?
May 17th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
And the reaso why I focus on that, HouDem is that the rest of wht you charge is based merely on opinion.
The alegation you make about a “war based on lies” can be proven by imperical fact.
what are those facts?
Can you tell us what lies were told to the American people that were known to be lies and werre intended to get us into a war?
The reason why I ask, is that the people who claim tha the lies were made have been in a position for the past two years to punish those respopnsible for making them, and proving to us that they were made in the process, and failed to do so.
I want them to be held accoun table, too, if lies were told to get us into a war.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Yup;
I was right about the reasons why folks lost in 2006.
Foreign policy was not on the list, and Iraq came in 4th. Laregly because people thought we’d lost the war.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/07/exit-polls-corruption/
May 17th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
131 - WMD’s? They hate our freedoms? Fight them there so we don’t have to fight them here? Links to 9/11?
May 17th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
132 - You know that American politics is a game (and at times a joke). In an election year impeachment would have rallied the republican base. And impeachment or no impeachment Iraq would still be a mess.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
those are charges.
I want FACT.
And if they are FACTm, I want to know why the President was not impeached by the people who are saying that they are FACS.
if they are4 FACTS, they should have been presented to the American People and those responsible punished for thier actions.
Failure to do so is an abonimable failure of Governmental–and moral—responsiblity.
Or, evidence that it’s all these claimsare lies that can’t be proven.
So, go ahead:
Make the case that your Democrat Majority with the subpeoona power of the Congress did not make.
Or admit that you have no real proof and tha all you have is morally reprehensible accusation unfounded by fact.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
so ylou admit that the Democrats made the decision based on “good of the4party” over “good of the Nation” by not punishing those responsible for lying to get us into a war?
right?
May 17th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Quite a list there, Demmy. Cronyism? Let’s hope if Obama manages to win he doesn’t bring his cronies in. Racist black separatists, murdering domestic terrorists, Jew-hating Palestinian terrorist apologists. Neglecting Americans? Have you seen the ballooning domestic budget??? Public good? Every time a Democrat talks about “public good” I hold onto my wallet because it always means higher taxes. Global warming deniers? Dat’s funny. Ten years from now you’ll be following the chicken little scientists preaching the impending global cooling. Must be torturous to be so self-loathing. And as for the “war based on lies”, well, no sense in exposing that particular liberal lie again. Just know this - no matter how many times you repeat the lie its still a lie.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
How well is the “good of the nation” served if the party with the power to remove a criminal president does not do so?
May 17th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
135 - LIE #1: “The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program … Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons.” — President Bush, Oct. 7, 2002, in Cincinnati.
LIE #2: “The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.” — President Bush, Jan.28, 2003, in the State of the Union address.
LIE #3: “We believe [Saddam] has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons.” — Vice President Cheney on March 16, 2003 on “Meet the Press.”
LIE #4: “[The CIA possesses] solid reporting of senior-level contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda going back a decade.” — CIA Director George Tenet in a written statement released Oct. 7, 2002 and echoed in that evening’s speech by President Bush.
LIE #5: “We’ve learned that Iraq has trained al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases … Alliance with terrorists could allow the Iraqi regime to attack America without leaving any fingerprints.” — President Bush, Oct. 7.
LIE #6: “We have also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We are concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs [unmanned aerial vehicles] for missions targeting the United States.” — President Bush, Oct. 7.
LIE #7: “We have seen intelligence over many months that they have chemical and biological weapons, and that they have dispersed them and that they’re weaponized and that, in one case at least, the command and control arrangements have been established.” — President Bush, Feb. 8, 2003, in a national radio address.
LIE #8: “Our conservative estimate is that Iraq today has a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agent. That is enough to fill 16,000 battlefield rockets.” — Secretary of State Colin Powell, Feb. 5 2003, in remarks to the UN Security Council.
LIE #9: “We know where [Iraq’s WMD] are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat.” — Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003, in statements to the press.
LIE #10: “Yes, we found a biological laboratory in Iraq which the UN prohibited.” — President Bush in remarks in Poland, published internationally June 1, 2003.
http://www.alternet.org/story/16274
Let me guess these are charges too? Nope these are certified lies. Click on the link to learn the facts…
May 17th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
I like that HoustonDem
“Vote for us. We won’t punish any Presidenmts who get usninto wars based on lies because ti might energize thier base and the war zone will still be a mess.”
fits right in with:
“We don’t think you should impeach a President who commits Perjury in Federal Court because everybody lies about sex.”
Vote Democrat: We don’t hold anybody accountable.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
137 - If Obama brings in Wright, Ayers or Rezko to serve in his cabinet or gives them cushy jobs in his administration…it will be a problem. Until that happens I am not going to worry about it too much.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Houdem:
Was Bush the first President to make those claims?
Or was he provided the exact same evidence that led a previous, Democrat President to come to exactly the same conclusions regarding Iraq’s WMD capability?
And are these LIERS?
You’re going to have to prove that the President knew none of this was true when he made the claim.
That’s what lies ARE.
What you have given us is a list of intelligence failures, not lies.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
142 - The difference is that the previous administration did not get us stuck in Iraq.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
#116 Meglet, Bless you for helping out with your Ganny. Had a similar experience with my Mom’s nd broken hip repair in hospital and earlier her weekend in ICU waiting to have a failed pacemaker replaced. These happened when she had mentally deteriorated significantly–Alzheimer’s, who knows?–and it is so hard to absorb what her behavior had become.
Hope Liz’s experience and suggestions are helpful to your family. It is a most difficult situation to cope with.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Regarding Ted Kennedy, it never ceases to amaze me how self-professed “Christians” put politics above their faith.
And there is no shortage of these types of people.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Correction, delete the nd.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
And with people like Ted Kennedy, you wonder why I shake my fist?
May 17th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
And that the previous Administration responded to Terrorists by using negotiation and Law Enforcement.
Which resulted in unanswered, and continually escalating Terrorist attacks dierctly on soverieng territory of the United States:
New York City
Air Force Barracks
Two embassies
Navy Destroyer
The Twin Towers
Haw many atacks have been made on Sovereign US territory since 2001?
How many attacks on Americans have resulted in the perpetrators of those attacks coming up against Americans with the means and opportunity to kill them?
Speaking of the war:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/17/operation-mosul-over-1000-captured/
We have helped to create a Muslim Nation that operates a Democracy that fights Al Queda.
Was kind of the whole point of the War on Terror.
Not enhancing the prestige of terrorist supporters by having a President of the United States negotiate with them without pre-conditions.
Like: If you stop invaiding your neighbor to kill American Soldiers and disrupt thier Democracy, we can sit down and talk.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Shaking your fist is one thing, wishing for someone to die is another (and it ain’t Christian at all).
That’s all.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Who here has wished for anybody to die?
May 17th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
You’re inventing an issue where none exists again, headshaker.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
HouDem:
You provide us with evidence you say is enough to priove that the President lied to get us into a war.
Then, you claim the reason why the Democrat Party did not honor is Consitutional and moral responibilities to impeach a President who lied to get us into a war based on political considerations, rather than use the Impeachment, and the irrefutable proof of those lies to guarantee your election this year (you say that the lies are rteson enough to vote for you—how could proving them in an impeachment harm you?)
And we’re supposed to buy that?
May 17th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
#150 hamous
Enough said.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Actually, I think that it’s a case where an expected occurence did not happen, so an effort is being made to claim that it did.
you know;
Like claiming the President lied to get us into a war.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Where is the wish to die there, Shakes?
May 17th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Oh, I expected the “usual suspects” to be DOTI™
It’s OK. I made my point.
Long live hyprocisy!
May 17th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
And let me go ahead and get the next phase of this faux display of righteous indignation out of the way:
May 17th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Oop, he beat me to it. You’re soooo predictable, dude.
May 17th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Ditto!
May 17th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
#116 Meglet, I always enjoy reading you, but am so sorry to hear you are in this trying time. The disease is insidious because it takes the person you know and love, and kills that person, but leaves the body alive. You are among friends, and it’s good to get things off your chest…. rant on.
May 17th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
You made no point at all.
You claimed somebody wished for somebody else to die.
You were asked to prove it.
You didn’t.
Because nobody did.
Not even Katfish.
All he did was say he was going to pray for Ted’s family, but not Ted.
Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment.
May 17th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
BTW;
You wanna know why I think the Democrats didn’t impeach the President?
Because they knew that he didn;t lie to get us into the war and bringing a false prosecution against him would result in thier eing out of power for the next 50 years.
That makes a lot more sense than claiming that proving that he lied was going to cost them politically, so they chose not to—and then two years later go around claiming that he lied to get us into a war.
May 17th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Sarge, to answer your question. We have plenty of time to prop up McCain. It’s important to let the GOP know how we feel. We have laughed here about the repetitive survey the RNC sends out with the same bullet points for us to check off, and a big space to donate. People were saying the same things we do. 1. Do you ever read that thing you send out. DO you read what I write to you when I send it back, with no money? Now is the time for the Republican party to understand how dire things are…….. and make a plan. Form some good ideas, stick to them, find a friggin leader and move on.
May 17th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Sarge:
Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment
Great point and I am glad you made it. I was going to. I suppose her folks are long gone also.
May 17th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Speaking of the Culture of Corruption:
Is William Jefferson running again this year?
May 17th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
You have your definition of a lie and I have mine. And as far as impeachment goes look at what happened in 1998…it does no good. History is going to judge Bush as a succcess or a failure. And God is going to judge where Bush will go in his afterlife. Right now we just need solutions to get out of Iraq. I know your ilk like the dog-and-pony shows but personally I would rather have a democratic-controlled house, senate and whitehouse than go through silly impeachment proceedings.
I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree. You believe this war to be just and right. You believe this president has made no mistakes in conjunction with Iraq. You believe the 4000+ soldiers lost and the countless Iraqis lost is just the reality of war. You believe the 100’s of billions of dollars has been an efficient use of money and has made us safer. And well I don’t.
Good luck in November.
May 17th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Oh, I get it. An “eye for an eye”, yeah that’s in The Bible.
I don’t recall Christ saying that in the Gospels though.
Interesting™
May 17th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
AW:
It is not in Katfish’s purview to pray for, or forgive Ted Kennedy.
That reckoning is coming.
He will be both judged and forgiven if he is truly repentant.
May 17th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Sarge, you asked Houstondem for facts supporting his/her arguments, received them promptly, and then ignored them.
The fact that the democrats didn’t have the guts to impeach Bush is sad & true, but pales in comparison to the lies George W. Bush & Co. repeated to the degree necessary to convince a frightened population represented by gutless politicians that invading Iraq was a necessary step in fighting terrorism.
If this were a real debate, I’d be tossing points to Houstondem.
Sadly, who moves into the White House in January depends on the republicans convincing voters that invading Iraq was a good idea when it was clearly a colossal mistake.
Fat chance.
May 17th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
If your claims of a President were so easily proven as to be able to go to a website and read his statements, then the Deomcrats most certainly either shirked a Constitutional and Moral responsibility to inpeach him and thus insure the utter destruction of the Republican Party.
Or
They knew (and still know) that it’s all hog wash and serves them better to make the claims in forums where the burden of proof is set at a very low threshold.
May 17th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
But what about the revolution???
May 17th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Really?
How many Al Queda members were being killed and captured by Saddam Hussein?
May 17th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Shakie if you think Ted Kennedy’s being a senator for 40 plus years, living a good life……enjoying it….. having power, then passing is an eye for an eye to a young woman, never married, never to experience anything…… I don’t see that. I don’t think Mr.Fish meant anymore or less than he said. I can’t speak for Mr.Fish, but am guessing he did not mean to start a brew-ha-ha….. but was just expressing strong emotion. I immediately thought of her parents when I heard the news. Wondering if they would feel it was finally over, but then realizing they are probably long dead.
May 17th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I asked him for proof of lies.
If you can show me where he provided that proof, I’ll concede the debate and vote for Obama.
May 17th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
#175 We were told outright that our invasion of Iraq was necessary and would be of limited duration. The people that worked so hard to develop that as a popular perception are either hopelessly stupid, or lying.
I’m simply giving them the benefit of the doubt.
May 17th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
175, Sarge
I would pay real money to see you voting for Obama under any circumstances, if we could get past that pesky secret ballot thing. Forgive me if I sound a little pessimistic, but the only way I can envision such a scenario involves firearms in some fashion.
/reality on
Simple
May 17th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
#172 Hamous, it’s not so much a revolution anymore. It’s more of an insurgency.
May 17th, 2008 at 4:27 pm