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95 Responses to “Chron’s Purple (Heart) Prose fails to persuade”
  1. Katfish on July 3rd, 2008 at 10:15 am

    If a bullfrog had WINGS he wouldn’t bump his butt either………..

  2. houstondem on July 3rd, 2008 at 10:24 am

    You forgot the sentence before - “But should we really feel safer because people with Horn’s judgment are allowed to act on impulse?”

    Just wanted to help put things in context.

  3. a crazy canuk on July 3rd, 2008 at 10:33 am

    When you can’t win an arguement with facts or logic you have to resort to emotional appeal.

    What if the robbers were armed to the teeth and shot Horn or missed and the bullets went through a wall and killed a child in it’s crib? The emotion game can run two ways.

    The sign in my drive way reads “If you can read this your in range”

  4. GriffithLea on July 3rd, 2008 at 10:42 am

    This argument is just like (i.e. just as illogical as) the argument that the caller into Pat’s show this morning made with the example of the drunk guy pounding on the door of the wrong house.

    NEWSFLASH: LIFE IS NOT A THEME PARK.

    If you get drunk, you put your life at risk by way of engaging in an activity that is known to impair judgement. Period. If the drunk guy walked out into traffic, would we be upset with the driver who mowed him down? “Hey, dude - the poor guy was drunk, why’d you go and do that?” I think not.

    IF YOU THREATEN OTHERS (and taking their stuff qualifies as such) YOU PUT YOUR OWN LIFE AT RISK.

  5. Lawrence C. on July 3rd, 2008 at 10:45 am

    The Comical just won’t be satisfied until they drive Joe Horn into the grave. At this point, what they’re doing is trying to ratchet up this poor victim’s(Joe Horn is truly the victim here) stress level and cause his premature death. It’s the liberal’s version of an “eye for an eye”.

    Their tactics sicken me.

  6. jimb on July 3rd, 2008 at 10:46 am

    #2 - Horn acted legally AND morally. I am fine with Horn’s actions because I know that I won’t be a) breaking into someone’s house and b) running towards an armed man brandishing a gun.

  7. texan1953 on July 3rd, 2008 at 10:48 am

    There are a lot of first-time criminals that have committed capital crimes and on Death Row. I am sure some “first-timers” have even been killed when attempting their first crime. As far as the rest of the examples…using this “logic” as long as you fit these examples, it is just fine to commit crimes. Are we supposed to go down a checklist before defending life and property? Do these people ever actually read what they write? Logical liberal…is an oxymoron.

  8. Maltboy! on July 3rd, 2008 at 10:49 am

    #2 - And you still fail to address how the ridiculous argument presented by the Chron has anything to do with the specific circumstances of this incident.

    Just wanted to help put things in context.

  9. houstondem on July 3rd, 2008 at 10:57 am

    6 - Legally? Maybe. Morally? No. Shooting 2 unarmed men in their backs sounds pretty weak to me. There are unwritten rules that men abide by…and that is one of them.

    But, of course, stealing someones stuff has consequences.

  10. Wino on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:01 am

    I’m going down to the VA to sign up for my looting and pillaging benefits. It beats the heck out of the GI Bill and mortgage assistance!

  11. jimb on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 am

    Um, I quote “Police Capt. A.H. Corbett stated the two men ignored Mr. Horn’s order to freeze and one of the suspects ran towards Joe Horn before he angled away from him toward the street when he was shot in the back.”

    As far as whether they were armed or not, I’d consider a guy who just robbed someone’s house moving toward me wielding a crowbar an armed man. Joe Horn was completely justified, morally and legally.

  12. hamous on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:07 am

    Let’s not forget the deterrent effect. If thieves are now thinking, “Hey, what if that guy has a gun?” before breaking into someone’s house then that’s something else good that came out of this unfortunate incident. The lesson should be a very simple one: If you break into someone’s house and steal their stuff you may pay with your life. Conversely, if you don’t break into people’s houses and steal their stuff you won’t be shot by them or their neighbors. Does anyone really believe that this was not a way of life for these two thugs? All of this crying for the bad man is detrimental to the proper functioning a civil society.

  13. Ghost Rider on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:08 am

    What if he shot Jesus, going door to door handing out Bibles?

  14. jimb on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:12 am

    Please tell me you’re kidding. These weren’t kids playing a prank, and they certainly weren’t going door-to-door handing out Bibles.

  15. hamous on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:13 am

    Huh???

  16. Basara on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:21 am

    Houstondem,

    What’s your solution? Is it something like this?

    “Hi, I’m your neighbor. Well, I’m assuming I’m your neighbor because you happen to be carrying stuff out of my neighbor’s house. Anyway, if you are not my neighbor, please let me know now. Ok, you are actually thieves. I see. Are you emotionally or economically traumtized veterans? You don’t even know what that means? I’ll assume you are not then. You don’t look like teenagers, but kids grow up so fast these days. Is this actually a teenage prank? No? Final question: are you armed? Ok, the handgun pointing at my face answers that one. What? You want to rob my place too? Well, ok, but only because you seem like such nice thieves. Please don’t shoot me.”

  17. houstondem on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:22 am

    11 - None of us were there and we have no idea how it unfolded. I can’t say for a fact whether or not Horn right or wrong. And I can’t say I would not want Horn to be my neighbor.

  18. tedtam on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:23 am

    #13 Ghost Rider

    What if these two dead cretins had awakened that morning and decided to read their Bibles instead of robbing someone’s house?

    But then, they probably have never owned a Bible. Or read one.

    That’s it! They’ve never been told that stealing other people’s property is frowned upon in polite society, so they did not know that they were doing anything wrong. The fact that they had to climb in a window was probably thought to be a normal mode of entry. And I’m sure that they tire iron was meant to be a gentle form of greeting as he approached Joe Horn, and was only confused and scared when he saw the gun, which is why he turned away just as Mr. Horn pulled the trigger.

    It is society’s fault for not properly assimilating these illegals into the nuances of our American culture. Our bad.

  19. tedtam on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:23 am

    Oh, crap. Thought I turned off the bold. Moderator, a little cleanup on aisle three, please?

  20. houstondem on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 am

    16 - yeah that’s it. Let me guess “toughguy” your solution is to “shoot first, ask questions later” right?

  21. Maltboy! on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 am

    #17 - I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t want you for a neighbor either.

  22. LizBV on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:25 am

    #3

    The sign in my drive way reads “If you can read this your in range”

    Love it! But unfortunately, many who would rob you can’t read.

  23. Maltboy! on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:26 am

    #20 - and yet you STILL neglect to answer the question.

  24. Mikey51 on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 am

    In the unlikely event that I or one of my family members find ourselves in the same predicament as Mr. Horn, I have posted the following guidelines on the inside of my exterior doors:

    In the event of having to leave this house to identify or otherwise possibly interact with or confront alleged criminal(s) who may or may not be armed to the teeth and waiting for you to come out and present yourself as an easy target, follow the following protocol:

    1. Call 911, explain the situation
    2. Call 911 again
    3. Prior to venturing outside the house to visit with the alleged miscreants, turn on all interior lights so you can be clearly seen as you exit the premises.
    4. Walk out of the house slowly, with your hands up in a passive manner.
    5. Announce to the A.M.’s that you are here for informational purposes only and pose no threat to their lives or livelihood.
    6. Get the living stuff kicked/stabbed/shot out of you.
    7. Wait for the ambulance to arrive to take you to Ben Taub.

    On the other hand, I like Mr. Horn’s method better. Go armed.

  25. Maltboy! on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 am

    #17 in re #21 - Sorry I misread your post. I retract what I said.

  26. Mikey51 on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:32 am

    #21 Houstondem actually said he would want Joe for a neighbor. “The old Double Negative trick!”

    Mikey’s going to see Get Smart tonight with Mrs. Mikey.

  27. LizBV on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:33 am

    Got a question or two or more… Were they or were they not on Horn’s property when shot? (Have heard differing reports.) Were they armed? Is it OK to shoot someone stealing your neighbor’s property even if that neighbor DIDN’T ask you to protect their property? Is it OK to shoot someone in the back as they are fleeing? Has anyone heard how this neighbor thinks about this? And finally - Were these two robbers here illegally and has that fueled the fire?

  28. tedtam on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 am

    People who don’t want to get involved will rationalize anything. My lovely neighbor across the street saw someone using a crowbar to enter my next-door neighbor’s home. NAC is a very, very nice lady, but not one to engage in much outside of her home. When NDN came over to tell us that she had been robbed, warning us to be careful, I went across the street to NAC to warn them that there were burglars in the area. NAC told me what she saw (her husband was standing next to her). Incredulously, I asked, “And you didn’t call the police?” She replied, “Well, I figured it was a cousin of theirs or something who forgot their keys.” While her husband shook his head behind her, I made sure that she knew that if she saw ANYBODY using a crowbar on my home, I WANTED her to call the cops; that my family knew not to use a crowbar to enter the home if the keys were not with them; and that I wouldn’t hold her liable for any issues with the police if the report was bogus.

    /shaking head

  29. Basara on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 am

    When two theives whom I have watched taking as many things as they could from my neighbors house are walking on my lawn, YES!

    I guess that now makes me an official “toughguy”.

    Tell me Houstondem, was that supposed to be an insult?

  30. mayfly22 on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 am

    The kind of reasoning shown in the Chronicle article to justify condeming Horn for his actions is the very thing that is destroying our justice system.

    The Bill of Rights is not part of our Constitution to allow people to get away with things but rather to guard fundamental rights of citizens. One of those rights is the right to own property…if someone is stealing that property, whether that person is a boy scout or a professional thief, they will suffer the consequences.

  31. FourAlarm on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:44 am

    Chron & LizBV have convinced me. I’ll wait to fire my weapon only after they face me and fire their gun. Good thing I’m still young and spry enough to move out of the way after verifying a bullet is indeed coming my direction.

    Who knows, it might be a toy gun or one that’s not loaded and I don’t want to kill a Vacation Bible School prankster on a scavenger hunt in error.

  32. houstondem on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:45 am

    16/23 - I don’t approve of Horn’s actions. It was dangerous. It was dumb do take the law into his own hands. He should have gotten their license plate number. He should have listened to the dispatcher.

    Hindsight:

    Those were two career criminals. They played with fire and got burned. They’re dead. So. They were a drag on society. They, like Horn, knew that what they were doing. They took their chances.

    28 - It’s too easy to be an idealogue. It’s a lot tougher to think outside of the box and challenge the views you havde held since you can remember.

    29 - I’d say you are more of an e-warrior.

  33. Basara on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:46 am

    Here you go Liv:

    Yes, they were on Joe Horn’s property.
    Yes, at least one of them was armed with a crowbar.
    Yes, it is ok to shoot someone committing a crime.
    Yes, it is ok to shoot them as they flee.
    The neighborhood has proclaimed Joe Horn a hero. I agree with this assessment.
    The two theives were illegal aliens, but the media has been after the white guy who shot the poor impoverished minorities instead.

  34. LizBV on July 3rd, 2008 at 11:58 am

    If a cop tells me to stay in my home and don’t go outside w/ a gun - that is an official order and I’m going to follow it. (Unless of course someone’s life is in immediate danger.) The cop clearly said on the recorded phone conversation, “There is no property worth getting yourself killed over.” and that’s true.

    Recently Horn stated he regretted his actions. He was operating on adrenaline and emotions at the time.

    There is nothing to celebrate in this case.

  35. Wino on July 3rd, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    During Rita, I stayed home. I went outside during the Houston Exodus - as an aside, the Jews had it right with hand carts and donkeys, since they didn’t run out of gas (especially the donkeys) - and only saw one neighbor still on my street, from across the street.

    Around midnight, I heard a noise. In front of my “I know he’s not home neighbor,” was a car I had never seen. I heard noises coming from my neighbor’s “other” car beside his house, and saw a silhouette of someone I did not recognize in my neighbor’s yard… not where the noises were coming from.

    I asked, “Who are you, and what are you doing here?”

    Had the man run toward me at that point, I’d probably be “the other Joe Horn.”

    Instead, he mouthed off, and my neighbor stood up and said to the mouthy near-victim, “Don’t you think you oughta tell him who you are before you mouth off like that?”

    Recognizing my neighbor, who was trying to get some gas from the “other car,” I went home. My neighbor thanked me later for watching his property for him.

    Joe Horn is a good neighbor and did the right thing.

  36. wfish on July 3rd, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    While we’re playing the “if” game, what if one of Chronicle’s editorial board’s address was the next stop for these illegal alien criminals? That thought should apply to any bleeding heart liberal that disagrees with eleminating that threat….no one knows who would have been next or how much damage and havac they would have reeked before being stopped one way or the other…if ever. We’d be much safer if we all had neighbors like Joe.

  37. FourAlarm on July 3rd, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    Benzion’s “Kop” killer.

  38. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    Dear Mr. Benzion, slight correction. Except in the case of John Kerry, Purple Heart Medals are normally earned through no wish of the awardee. They are not normally “handed out”. I’m not busting your chops - just educating.

  39. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    Today’s choices are:

    1. Joe Horn did absolutely the right thing.

    2. Joe Horn did absolutely the right thing, and the next ten they catch alive should be bordered at HoustonDem’s home.

    3. We should pay for Joe Horn to move next door to HoustonDem.

    4. We should pay for the thieves to move next door to HoustonDem.

    You can only vote once, and only for one option. This is not a Democrat polling place.

    Oh, I vote 2.

  40. Shannon on July 3rd, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    The Chronicle is simply mad that the Chicago Tribune beat them to the punch:

    Repeal the 2nd Amendment
    No, we don’t suppose that’s going to happen any time soon. But it should.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-0627edit1jun27,0,2350076.story

  41. tedtam on July 3rd, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    #32 Houstondem

    I don’t know what you mean in your response to my #28. “Long held beliefs”? Since when is using a crowbar to enter a home common, in ANY culture? It damages or destroys the door! Unless there was a life or death situation on the other side of the door, I don’t know of anyone who would authorize “some cousin” (she said that because she didn’t recognize the van in the driveway, which is what the TV and other items were loaded into). BTW, she saw them removing the household items and driving off with them, as well.

    Knowing my quiet, retiring neighbor, she just didn’t want to get involved, to have to talk to the police. Her excuse was just that - an excuse.

    She’s still my friend, and still a very nice person, but I hope to high heaven that she remembers what I’ve told her about calling the cops if she sees a crowbar anywhere near my home! I removed her “excuse” for her.

  42. GriffithLea on July 3rd, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    #32

    JH did not take the law into his own hands. To say as much is to engage in hyperbole. It was already in his hands, as the law says and the no-bill shows. He was within the law to defend the neighbor’s property with deadly force.

    Of course it was dangerous. That’s why it’s called deadly force. It wouldn’t be a very effective force if it wasn’t dangerous to the perpetrators. Dangerous to JH? Sure, but that’s HIS choice, not yours.

    I note again that if the two robbers had followed JH’s instructions, they would be alive today.

    License plate number? You don’t seem to understand - JH was trying to STOP the theft. He knew that if they were allowed to leave the scene, the chances of his neighbor being able to recover the stolen goods and the thieves being caught would drop very sharply.

    I appreciate your comments to the effect that the robbers took their lives into their own hands when the chose to burgle a house. I wholeheartedly agree.

  43. texan1953 on July 3rd, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    Never bring a crowbar to a gunfight.

  44. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    When crowbars are criminalized, only criminals will have crowbars.

  45. wfish on July 3rd, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    #39
    I vote ‘2′

  46. Maltboy! on July 3rd, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    #34 LizBV - Where did you get the idea that 911 dispachers are cops? What if a non-cop gives you an “order”? Are you going to follow it?

  47. southerntragedy on July 3rd, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    Liz: It wasn’t a cop that told him to stay inside. It was a 9-11 operator.

    Wow! Never thought I’d see that day that the criminals would be considered victims and Joe Horn the criminal.

    For those interested: Look on yesterday’s post and you will see the video of Joe Horn.

  48. southerntragedy on July 3rd, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    I vote #2 and also vote to put a sign in his yard that says:

    I’m unarmed and won’t shoot you if tresspassing.

  49. Maltboy! on July 3rd, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    houstondem, I could use a little extra cash. Where do you live? :)

  50. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    ST, how about one that says “Come on in and make me and my family a victim - I’d rather it be us than you because you may be disadvantaged/suffering”.

  51. a crazy canuk on July 3rd, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    2

  52. Katfish on July 3rd, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    #34 -

    There is nothing to celebrate in this case.

    MsLiz I must respectfully disagree:
    GUARANTEED and 100% prevention of recidivism for the 2 would be burglars is more than enough to celebrate about IMHO.

  53. jimb on July 3rd, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    Yeah, 911 operators are civilians, not LEO’s.

  54. texan1953 on July 3rd, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    Maybe the Chron Ed. Board would have felt better if Mr. Horn had used harsh language.

  55. jimb on July 3rd, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    Of course, it is hard on Horn. He had to take a life. The keyword here is HAD. He didn’t really feel like he had a choice other than to defend his neighbor’s property and his life.

    Screw Lisa Falkenberg and the rest of the Chron editorial board. They weren’t there, and they’re condemning a man without even knowing or caring about the whole story.

  56. hamous on July 3rd, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    Correction - they weren’t “would be burglars”, the were had been burglars.

  57. Katfish on July 3rd, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    #56 - Ok Ok OK geez!

    “would’ve been”

  58. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    Where did this absolutely stupid liberal notion come from that it’s wrong for a citizen to defend themselves, their property, and that of their neighbors? And the insane thinking that says we should find excuses for criminal behavior?

    Shannon #40 nails it exactly right. The goal of liberals is still to take away your guns - but for them to control the forces that do. After all, they are the chosen ones who know all. Liberals are just petty little dictators who would rule with an iron fist if given the opportunity.

    But let’s take a good look at statistics to prove why their ideas are stupid. First, there are over 221 million firearms in the hands of free citizens. Some sources say 300 million. I’ve used this government website and added 1% growth per year to get my 221 million. We’ll use 206 million for the year 2000.

    In 2000, our population, according to the Census Bureau was 281,421,906.

    According to Department of Justice crime statistics
    there were 625,100 arrests for violent crime in 2000, and 1,620,900 arrests for property crime in the 2000.

    So in 2000, 22/100ths of ONE FRIGGING PERCENT of the population committed violent crimes. Actually it was less because so many are multiple offenders.

    And property crimes were committed by less than 6/10ths of ONE FRIGGING PERCENT of the population. Again, it was less because many are multiple offenders.

    Now these idiot liberals would take away our right to defend ourselves because less than ONE FRIGGING PERCENT of the population can’t behave like civilized human beings.

    And you wonder why we think you liberals are dangerous to our liberty.

  59. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    If Joe Horn gets three more, he’ll be an ace!

  60. american woman on July 3rd, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    To the writer of this article. What if Joe Horn’s two granddaughters were in the neighbors house playing. What if the two young men, a long way from home, all alone in the big city, broke the window, startled the mom, struck her in the head with the crowbar, killing her. The little girls here the ruckus, run down stairs to see, and the two poor misguided burglars, by need only, grab them… rape, them then murder them also. What if Joe Horn hears the screams, calls 911, waits as he was told to do. What if the police come to find a mother and these children all dead? The poor misguided, hungry and needy men are long gone.

    This could have just as easily been the scenario, thank GOD for Joe Horn, and Texas men of his caliber, who understand they need to stop crime.

  61. carbon-credit on July 3rd, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    It was a pathetic editorial to say the least. End of story.

  62. Fasternu 426 on July 3rd, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Why do liberals always want to surrender to the lowest common denominator? Think about it. They want to surrender our homes to burglars and the battlefield to head chopping jihadis.

    No thanks, I’ll defend my home and my country. This mythical “mentally ill, wounded or economically desperate war veteran, committing his first crime” just became a criminal if he’s breaking into my house. Hitler was a veteran too, does he get a pass for his crimes? I especially don’t want a mental case (veteran or not) breaking into my home. Thanks for justifying pulling the trigger in my mind even more. I just can’t picture Audie Murphy crawling out a window, but I can picture an illegal alien doing it.

    You wussies can surrender your freedom, I jealousy guard mine and will violently defend it if need be! Not just a keyboard warrior either….

  63. Fasternu 426 on July 3rd, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    Do they have any stats on a “mentally ill, wounded or economically desperate war veteran, committing his first crime”??

    I bet it doesn’t even register. But repeat offenders and illegal aliens probably have a pretty good slice of that pie chart!

  64. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    AW, or what if it had been Ms. Falkenberg’s mother and her nieces visiting Jack Sweeney’s mother, and all the things in AW’s #60 had happened? I’d bet they’d sue Joe Horn for doing nothing.

  65. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    If he’s a war veteran committing a crime like that, he’s even more dangerous. He’s been trained. And he’s violated all the things he was taught as an American warrior. Best we get rid of him now…Bang.

  66. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    What’s the slice of the pie that shows liberals with common sense? I know. Silly question. If they had common sense, they wouldn’t be liberals to begin with.

  67. Fink on July 3rd, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    Truth is, if we are allowed to defend ourselves against criminals, sometimes we are going to kill innocent people.

    Truth is, if we delegate defending ourselves to law enforcement officers, sometimes they are going to kill innocent people.

    Innocent people occasionally are going to be killed by mistake in either situation.

    Now, if innocent people are allowed to defend themselves against criminals, FEWER innocent people are going to die.

    Further, since the criminal element is such a tiny percentage of our population, we innocent people can trade them casualties at a high rate and nearly wipe them out.

    There’ll always be evil in the world … I call it Original Sin. The liberals think they can change human nature, wiping away evil … but only if they can “break a few eggs to make an omlet.”

    We who choose to defend ourselves are a barrier to the liberals’ drive to perfect mankind. That’s why they want our guns, talk radio, etc.

    Oh, and the “break a few eggs” reference? That’s what Stalin’s defenders said of his drive to collectivize farming in Ukraine.

    Stalin, Hitler, Mao and many others believed they could perfect mankind … if they chose who lived and died.

  68. Darren10 on July 3rd, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    Last time I posted here on Joe Horn I said that I’m still scratching my head over why liberals would rather have Joe Horn violated and perhaps killed than to defend his right to bare arms to protect himself, his property, and the property of his neighbor. Joe Horn is more than welcme to move into my neighborhood.

    What if these two were Ghandis’ reincarnation and they just wanted to whish peace upn Joe Horn?

    What if these were two priests running around simply blessing people’s trees?

    What if these were water meter guys and were simply looking for the water main?

    Liberalism, as plainly manifested in this case, sides with scum. Had Joe Horn been violated, beaten, or killed, THEN, the liberals would praise his courage for, you know, being passive and allowing himself to be violated, beaten, or killed.

    What if nobody was trying to break into anybody’s home?

    What if we traditionally had better controls over our borders?

    What if these dos ladrones didn’t move when the gentleman with the shotgun told them not to move?

    What if people respected other’s property?

    I like these questions better.

  69. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    Alot of neighborhood Nazi associations won’t let you put a sign in your yard. So put it in the back window of your car pointing to your liberal neighbor’s home letting criminals know that house does not have a gun and doesn’t believe in shooting intruders.

  70. american woman on July 3rd, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    Truthfully, what I think we see happening here, is the weakness these people know they have, makes them try to disparage the strength Mr. Horn has. They need to equalize Mr. Horn, because they simply are weak.

  71. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    Man walks up to man and his family, sticks a knife in their face, and demands all their wallets and jewelry.

    Liberal response: I wonder what I did to cause this? Am I in any real danger. Should I risk calling 9/11? Can he be talked out of it? Is he unemployed? Hungry? Abused as a child? Culturally disadvanged? What can I do to help him?

    Southerner response: BANG

    Texan response: BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG
    (Sound of clip being changed).
    Texan’s daughter: Nice group Daddy!
    Texan’s son: Dad, can I shoot too?

  72. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    In general, I think liberals are the type who would have turned over their own mother’s to the Gestapo to save their own sorry butts. No physical courage, no moral courage. Treason and cowardice are their hallmarks.

  73. american woman on July 3rd, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    Yes Big45 I agree, they just don’t have that inner strength. Do you think religion has anything to do with this?

  74. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    AW, not really. Alot of them profess to be Christians. But then they approve of perverted lifestyles and the butchery of innocent babies in the womb or partially out of the womb. Their religion is a sham.

  75. jimb on July 3rd, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    I read over at the Chron comments section that someone said that because of Horn’s actions, now burglars will go into houses armed and ready to kill. As if they didn’t do so already…

  76. Fasternu 426 on July 3rd, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    In general, I think liberals are the type who would have turned over their own mother’s to the Gestapo to save their own sorry butts.

    Like George Soros, Obama’s friend?

  77. Fasternu 426 on July 3rd, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Can Lisa Falkenburg or houstondem find stats on how many actual burglars/rapists/real criminals were shot and killed/wounded by homeowners compared to accidental shootings of innocent girl scouts, youthful pranksters, Shriners, left handed albinos, and mentally challenged war heroes?

    (Yes, that was a run-on sentence, so what…)

    I’m not looking because it would be a waste of my time. But If its a big deal to them they should compare them. Me, I’ll keep ‘Ole smoky ready for the sound of breaking glass! Shriner albinos beware!

  78. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    We should excuse George Soros because he was only 14, just like this guy.

  79. Maltboy! on July 3rd, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    Faster - the Chron’s argument is a classic straw man. They present us with a few ridiculous extremes, kick the daylights out of them, and then use them to distort and condemn what really happened.

  80. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    I must say that Gadboy, HoustonDem, and Noodleboy don’t stick around long in the face of a blistering response of logic in the face of their inane positions.

  81. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    I’d bet most left wingers don’t know that George Soros posed as a Christian and helped the Nazi’s seize Jewish properties.

  82. american woman on July 3rd, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    I read ” Exodus” when I was 13. It had such a profound impact on me, I simply believe Soros is lying about not understanding what he was doing at 14. I had no idea this was Soros past. I’ve never been interested in reading about him.

  83. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    AW, did you read my #78 link?

  84. Fasternu 426 on July 3rd, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    The 12th SS Hitlerjugend Division was made up of kids as young as 12! They often fought to the death!

  85. jimb on July 3rd, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    Interesting comment about Soros from that article, indicative of liberal hypocrisy:

    During the mid-1990s, Mr. Soros made countless hundreds of millions of dollars speculating in the currencies, and ultimately wrecking the economies, of Malaysia, Thailand and to a lesser extent a number of other southeast Asian nations. Since then, he’s used his money to promote ultra-liberal causes, which are always in the name of helping the “disadvantaged” and the “downtrodden.” Or so they say.

    Even though it was a decade ago, I’ll bet it wouldn’t take long today to find people on the streets of Kuala Lumpur or Bangkok who would offer several mouthfuls’ worth of opinions about Soros. Countless millions were impoverished and economically wiped out as a direct result of his actions. And because the once-wealthy “neighbors” suddenly had no cash, this in turn made people in already- impoverished nations like Cambodia, Vietnam and Laos even poorer.

    Soros’sattitude during the interview amply showed that he cared only about No. 1 as fellow Jews were being rounded up for the gas chambers in 1944, and his actions prior to the southeast Asian collapse proves that his attitude had changed not a bit during the intervening half-century.

  86. TexasAC on July 3rd, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    …from all this, guess I’d better learn some Spanish.

  87. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    TexasAC, no, from this you should learn to have sufficient firearms and ammo available if needed.

  88. american woman on July 3rd, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    #83 Yes I did Big45 and that also adds weight to the arguement, Soros knew what he was doing. He needed to survive, but to say it didn’t bother him…. that makes him a sociopath. Well….. that definition works for me anyway lol

  89. southerntragedy on July 3rd, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    Lisa wrote this in an article about Joe Horn the other day. I’m surprised nobody commented on it:

    Now, Texas law isn’t known for its progressive trend-setting.

    Dang skippy!

  90. american woman on July 3rd, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    When the Chronicle finally dies, can we say Lisa Faulkenberg killed it? Can we say she had a choice, and should have reported on an even scale with no personal prejudice? Can we say she should be arrested because she contributed to a slow agonizing death? Can we say it was her personal decision to twist, lie, deceive, misinform, that helped cause this death? Can we say her liberal coworkers co-conspirators? Can we sue Lisa for making us watch this slow death? I feel so bad for the trees cut down to make this paper. The trees were misused, even abused. What’s worse, children have been subjected to the death because the paper has a page for children. Now the children will suffer the loss.

  91. southerntragedy on July 3rd, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    Gee, I thought this sign in my yard was working great!

    This property is protected by fire ants.

  92. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    When the Comical folds, we should simply say, THANK GOD! Then LST will be the leading source of information in Houston. The Comical should bill themselves as the leading source of misinformation in Houston.

    As for Lisa Falkenberg, perhaps she can find a job she’s truly shown she’s suited for….shovelling shiite from the HPD horse stalls.

  93. wwrd on July 3rd, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    2

    #32
    Houston Dem, how do you get a license plate on two walking felons?

    I bet the couple in NW Harris County are glad they didn’t have a shotgun when they stabbed in their own bed, with the lady dying………

    Better to judged by 12 than carried by 6

  94. Big45Iron on July 3rd, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    I don’t know why we bother to use logic or common sense in a debate with liberals. They’re just not gonna get it, LOL.

  95. Dave5 on July 4th, 2008 at 9:37 am

    Since when are residential burglaries pranks? I always thought they were serious felonies?

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