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13 Responses to “Do-nothing Congress may have done something on immigration”
  1. FourAlarm on July 31st, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    Please, let’s not stamp their hand so they can get back in without paying through the nose.

  2. american woman on July 31st, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    We are seeing a product of this, I think, with US Border Watch. There are still plenty of day workers here, but they are not getting the jobs as readily. When we show up, they are angrier. That’s a good sign. Every American who has contacted Washington in one form or another, held a sign, shouted, voted, gets credit for this

  3. american woman on July 31st, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    The best barometer of what is really happening with illegal immigration, is for a person to go to the closest emergency room. The one they would have to visit for an emergency. Do this about 8p.m. If the demographics of the emergency room have not changed to what they were 20 years ago. We still have work to do. Our big problem are those illegals who have a relationship here, and have had children.. Of course, some of them have second families in Mexico, but they will not have motivation to leave. I have no idea how to fix that problem.

  4. texpat on July 31st, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    Good work, Rick. There may be hope yet.

  5. vlou on July 31st, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    Until someone can actually give us a count on how many ILLEGALS were actually here before, this information is not very credible. I believe this is an election year feel good tactic. Get real.

  6. retire05 on July 31st, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    I read an article a few months ago about how the new laws in Arizona and especially Oklahoma were driving the illegals into Texas. But they were not happy campers. The illegals complained that while they had worked every day in and around the large Oklahoma cities, they were only finding work a couple of days a week in Dallas, Houston or Austin. And they also complained that due to the competition from other illegals who had come to Texas because of the housing slump in other northern cities, they were making less per hour.

    A couple of them said that if they couldn’t start getting daily work, although no one in Houston or Austin every bothered them, they would go back to Mexico.

    Ah, poor babies.

    The cure is simple. Make it so expensive for employers to hire illegals that if caught, they will risk losing their business to pay the fines and the lawyers to get them out of jail. It would not take a hellofa lot of businesses to go under with fines and legal expenses for the word to get out “It just ain’t worth it, bubba.”

    Where there are no jobs, illegals will return to where they are familiar. Then end all the damn freebees that our government gives them.

  7. phil on July 31st, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    Did this news upset the compassionate traitor-n-chief?

  8. Darren10 on August 1st, 2008 at 3:05 am

    and I happen to be one of the few people who think Michael Chertoff is doing his best under very difficult conditions - conservatives claiming he’s in bed with Mexico and liberal advocacy groups screaming he is tearing mammas away from their babies

    First and foremost, I know progress is being made and I very much accept and appretiate this progress. Chertoff, however, deserved every bit of criticism when he ran around the country telling conservative folks that they’d rather do nothing than something: ergo; accept Comprehensive Immigration Reform. His boss, George Bush, wanted it and so Chertoff pimped it. I have no idea of that’s what Chertoff believed or if he was under a directive to promote the Immigration Reform Bill or if he was simply giving his hand to help promote what Bush wanted to promote. Either way, he stood against what Conservatives wanted and fought for.

    Once again things seem to boil down to Bush’s lack of communication to the people. There is every reason in the world Bush should talk about recent successes, the very ones you cited Rick. That would have a rallying affect behind Bush and Chertoff. But, again, people have to go to blogs to find out what’s going on. Bush was far more public about supporting Comprehensive Immigration Reform than he is now about cracking down on illegal immigration. or so it seems to me.

    So perhaps, like a broken clock, even Congress critters can get it right once in a while. And to think: All they have to do is to do nothing.

    Actually, I’d say it was Conservative political activism that achieved progress on the immigration front. Also, as retire05 post # 6 reminded me, it’s been the cities and states that have initiated this achievement. Both Liberal and Conservative leaders have put tremendous amounts of pressure on the federal government to do something. It seems to have worked quite well.

    Just my take.

    One more thing. I’m no fan of McCain and I’m still “roller coating” my decision to vote third party or not. One thing here that stands out in favor of voting for McCain is that he’ll be much more susseptable to, um, “control”(?) than Obama on immigration.

  9. Darren10 on August 1st, 2008 at 3:09 am

    We still have work to do. Our big problem are those illegals who have a relationship here, and have had children.. Of course, some of them have second families in Mexico, but they will not have motivation to leave. I have no idea how to fix that problem.

    And that’s an ugly reality to face isn’t it. It may have to come down to forced deportation even for those who have children here. On this issue I would indeed support deportation but AFTER THE BORDERS ARE VERY SECURE, I think I can compromise on those who can show they have come here and to make an honest living. To me that would mean little to no police records, have had jobs, children ave been in school, etc.

  10. a crazy canuk on August 1st, 2008 at 7:12 am

    It isn’t solved yet. I was speaking to a friend of mine and he is trying to hire people. He said all he sees are fake licences and SS cards. He won’t hire illegals and is frustrated as all get out.

    However any progress is still progress.

  11. Simple Simon on August 1st, 2008 at 9:53 am

    Let us not fail to acknowlege the declining economy as a factor in reducing illegal immigration. It is kind of the inverse of “Provide the jobs, they will come.”.

    Simple

  12. RickG on August 1st, 2008 at 11:03 am

    5. vlou

    Until someone can actually give us a count on how many ILLEGALS were actually here before, this information is not very credible. I believe this is an election year feel good tactic. Get real.

    I’m curious why you would say that. This was not a government report. It is from a seriously anti-illegal immigration, pro-enforcement group. Since the government is still being criticized by such groups for insufficient enforcement, what would be their motive for falsely saying the number of illegals is decreasing?

  13. el_longhorn on August 1st, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    Those numbers are highly suspect. The 12 million illegal aliens is just a broad estimate in the first place, so any report that says this estimate went up or down by 10% is a guess based on an estimate. No one really knows how many illegal aliens are in the country, and no one can tell you with any certainty if that number went up or down over the last year or so.

    CIS interest in promoting this story is to bolster the claim that enforcement works to reduce illegal immigration. I would agree that the number of illegal immigrants has probably gone down and that the rate of entry of new illegal immigrants is slowing, but I do not agree that enforcement is the cause. Immigration is a market driven phenomenon and is responsive to market forces. Immigrants are disproportionately employed in sectors of the economy that are not doing well - construction and landscaping, in particular. Also, immigrants are very sensitive to these economic changes - if the market is not doing well, better to go back to Mexico and wait for the recovery than continue to pay the high cost of living in the US and eat up the family savings. When the housing market picks up again and the US economy gets some life, they will be back. A good job making good money is a powerful motivator.

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