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7 Responses to “Finally, the Army Gets It Right”
  1. Big45Iron on August 6th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    Nothing new here. The ebb and flow of old vs. new in the military has always been there. Billy Mitchell was a prime example. Prior to Pearl Harbor, the battleship admirals still held sway over the Navy. That is one of the things I liked about the Marine Corps. There was less resistance to changes in tactics and equipment (which was usually sorely limited by the shoe string budget constraints the Marine Corps was imposed to - and imposed upon itself.

    There was an unofficial credo in the Marines: Ask for 100% of the funding you want, use 90% of what was given you, and do 110% of what you said you were going to do. This policy likely helped the Marine Corps survive though against the winds of many who wanted to eliminate it altogether - Truman being the worst.

    Over the years many types of influences and prejudices have influenced the military. Often times if you were not a graduate of one of the service academies, colonel was as high as you were going to go. And if you were a former enlisted man, you would never be the head of that branch of service.

    One of the best things the Army has done since this war began was to train like they fight. Proper training and continual attention to physical conditioning and maintenance of standards and equipment has vastly improved our Army and helped to reduce casualties - while causing real grief to the bad guys. Whatever happens at the top, you can at least see the dedication and initiative in the lower ranks. And with today’s information pipeline, people like Colonel McMaster can only be ignored for so long.

  2. texpat on August 6th, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    #1 Big45Iron

    I have to gently disagree with you. I believe the promotion of one officer to general is not a major historical event, but the reconstituting of the selection process and of the board itself signals a very large change in organizational attitude. While our military history certainly reflects a constant tension between the old and new, the young and seasoned, the executive officer and the experienced combat veteran, there are identifiable times when there was a fundamental shift in character and mentality. I think this is one of those times and the Petraeus board signals larger things to come.

  3. Big45Iron on August 6th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    I don’t disagree with you at all Texpat. But watch what happens after the war is over and public pressure for change is off. We saw this happen right after WW2, when the Army got complacent again about training. When Korea rolled around they were woefully unprepared, and took a tremendous amount of casaulties for it. The vigorous Army of the early 40s had become complacent and entrenched again.

    FYI, usually the executive officer is an experienced combat leader. He’s pulled as the best combat platoon commander in the company - normally because either the XO was killed, or the CO was killed and the old XO moved up.

  4. texpat on August 6th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    #3 Big

    You’re correct about the executive officers. I should have specifically stated XOs from non-combat sectors of the Army. There have been numerous ones promoted in recent years over officers with more intense and current combat experience.

  5. Big45Iron on August 6th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    Texpat, depends on the type of command they’re assigned to, and their level of training. There are just so many facets. There is another old axiom: Amateurs study tactics. Professionals study logistics. Tactics are good, but you have to get your warrior there with the most bullets, bandages and beans. The more men and materials you can get to the objective, and supporting artillery, air, and logistics, and the faster you can get it there, the more likely you are to win the battle with the least amount of pain. A good tactical commander at the battalion and lower level might not be the best guy at the brigade of division level. I can’t speak for the Army, but the Marines were pretty good about rotating their officers in and out of combat and staff billets to ensure they were well trained and cognizant of how the various pieces fit in the puzzle. Professional education is often times the key.

    Here’s a good example. My old XO at Kilo Company, 3d Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment is now a major general. Look at his career.

  6. wagonburner on August 6th, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    #5 b45
    Pretty impressive list of accomplishments. He’s about to run out of room for decorations.

  7. Big45Iron on August 6th, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    Wagon, when then lstLt Regner was the XO of Kilo 3/8, this guy was our battalion operations officer, and this guy was our battalion commander.

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