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  1. Robert 1 on September 3rd, 2008 at 9:56 am

    The facts are obvious that Palin is a good choice. The only question is will the liberal media accept that and report that or will they continue making news instead of reporting news about Palin. The Dimwits are just mad because they should have nominated HELLary instead of Joe BADen, purely for political reasons. If Palin survives this liberal onslaught then she really is a great choice.

  2. Zippy_Slug on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:00 am

    I have no words to explain how LIVID I am at the drive by media.. the liberal media.. the media wing of the democrat party.. they have no credibility any longer.. they tell sensationalist stories without including all the facts..

    It’s okay for Barry Hussein to go to a racist, g-d dam amerikkka church.. but not for Palin to be Christian…

    It’s okay for Barry Hussein to allow the pulling live babies from mothers and let them die in the next room, and attack Palin on is her baby even hers..

    These are just the top of my head..

    Sick sick sick.. I HATE all of the knuckle-dragger MSMs.. F the media.. LIVID..

  3. trl3 on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:16 am

    I think the more outlandish lies that are told about the Gov. Sarah Palin the better it will be for the Republicans. Most of the lies being told are so poorly done by liberal political hacks they are easily countered and most Real Americans will become disgusted with the tactic. This leaves only the marxist and and liberals that hate conservatives so much that their judgement is non existant and these guys were never going to vote for a Republican anyway.

    These attacks only demonstrate just how desperate the Democrat party is and the only change we are going to see from them is the same old tired tactics the liberals always use because they cannot win on substance.

    It is a shame that conservatives did not make a better choice for the top of their ticket.

  4. Adee on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:16 am

    We shall see what happens tonight. Just hope the McCain campaign folks let Sarah be the Sarah of last Friday at the announcement of her as the VP choice.

    The unbridled viciousness directed at Sarah and her family by the lefties from the deepest caverns and crypts containing the most demented bloggers to the vaunted (but failing in circulation and revenue) Noo Yawk Times and alpahbet networks simply indicates how scared they are of her. Good, glad they’re scared. The more they persist in their depraved blathering, the more livid more women become and the more supportive of her. Hell hath no fury like the wrath of a woman, but multiply that by millions of women, and that’s lotsa withering wrath translating into votes.

    Ronald Reagan is smiling.

    Hey lefties, you’re in a hole that you keep deepening. The wise course would be to stop digging, but in your case keep on until you bury yourselves–and your candidate. That is all.

  5. jimb on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:22 am

    she’s been under viscous assault

    They’re flinging gear oil at her? Way to edit, HuffPo!

  6. hamous on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:24 am

    Keep in mind that the Left and their media stooges were just as ruthless to Reagan in 1980. It didn’t work out too well form them back then. Let’s hope history repeats itself.

  7. PedalingPaddler on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:27 am

    the one that makes me mad is all they(including BO himself) seem to mention is her mayorship but not her governorship but BO just talks about the senate and if he is to be looked at the same way then we should look at his experience of being school board pres.

  8. Custer Rushmore on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:30 am

    Sarah-cuda is the perfect choice and is the new Ronald Reagan. The MSM idiots are scared to death of her. BO is sure wishing he could have a do-over on picking his own VP.

    Tonight she will show everyone that field dressing a donkey isn’t that different than field dressing a moose.

    Fred Thompson’s speech was outstanding last night and my favorite lines where when he talked about BO raising taxes. His new taxes won’t effect you, unless you buy anything from a business or work for one. Plus, they are only going to take taxes out of the other side of the bucket of water. Classic.

    Go Sarah-Cuda Go.

  9. Adee on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:34 am

    #5 jimb, LOL

    #8 Custer Rushmore, Love that line about field dressing a donkey. Clever. Hehehe.

  10. headshaker on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:38 am

    Once again: I like Palin, a lot.

    The question begs though, should her primary responsibility be the GOP or her family which is in crisis right now?

    I’m not so sure a lot of conservatives aren’t being selfish when it comes to answering this question truthfully.

  11. izquierdo on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:38 am

    She’s definately a compelling figure, and probably the best choice given the field:
    Lieberman, Ridge, Pawlenty, KBH. I think her creationism= evolution in High School classes is a problem. Her 17 year old pregnant unwed daughter can’t help. The Alaska trooper investigation could be a real distraction. Some view the Assembly of God as a bit over the top. She will definately congeal the right wing base, but is that enough. Look for Hillary to come out with a strong statement in favor of Roe v Wade, and therefore nominating her brand of justices. Some will vote for McCain/Palin because she’s a woman just like some will vote for Obama just because he’s black. Barack wins that one. All in all she’s made the race a close and interesting one.

  12. BigJolly on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:42 am

    Please, Shakey, now you are doing what you accused others just yesterday of doing - pretending you have a clue about that family.

    Different families handle things differently. I don’t see a crisis here. I see a young girl that did in fact get pregnant, that did in fact choose to keep the child rather than abort the ‘punishment’ that Barack thinks is growing in her and a set of parents that demonstrated their love for her by NOT cowering in the corner and hiding her away.

    I think this family is just fine. And I think that Sarah Palin has demonstrated that she has the fortitude, courage and street smarts to handle the pressure that she’ll be under for a while.

  13. headshaker on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:43 am

    Hey BigJolly, what does the Bible say about a mother and her children?

    Fact: Sarah Palin has 5 kids, one pregnant at 17 and an infant with Down’s Syndrome.

    You can honestly say the pregnancy is not a crisis for this family? I was 19 when I got married, trust me, this is a crisis.

    I think it’s completely ignorant for anyone to say it’s not a crisis, particularly if you’ve never been in such a situation.

  14. BigJolly on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:48 am

    The Bible says a lot of things about a lot of things, Shakey. Pardon me if I choose not to accept your spin on them regarding Sarah Palin.

  15. BigJolly on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:50 am

    Somewhere in the back of my mind, I think that Shakey calling me ignorant is some sort of badge of honor. Which I’ll wear proudly.

  16. headshaker on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:50 am

    #14

    Everyone spins the Bible and you know it.

  17. BigJolly on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:54 am

    Indeed they do. Which is why it is important to know the person that is doing the spinning. And, in this case, like I said, pardon me if I ignore your spin. ;-)

  18. digitaldon37 on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:55 am

    I think Palin was a last minute choice by McCain after Obama passed up Hillary and picked Biden. She certainly is a “safe” choice:

    - Won’t lose any conservative votes - most likely gained
    - May pick up some left leaning Republicans who were considering Barr
    - May pick up some women Democratic voters

    I don’t know if it’s good enough to win in November. McCain is fighting a media that wants a Democratic president and a country that has been told by the media for 8 years how bad Bush is.

    Palin solidifies the conservative base, but I don’t see a shift toward McCain’s favor. Unless BO does something that even the media can’t ignore, I think he’s (unfortunately) favored to win.

  19. jimb on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:55 am

    LOL, NOW Shakey appeals to the Bible when us “fundamentalists” want to say it is good that Palin is the nominee for VP.

    Why don’t you do the conservative thing, and let the Palin family handle the Palin family?

  20. headshaker on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:56 am

    Look, my ex-wife (girlfriend at the time) got pregnant at 19. She came from a VERY conservative Catholic family (yes, there are some!). That crisis still affects my life today 23 years later, and the lives of my kids.

    Trust me, this ain’t no picnic for the Palins and it’s not easily handled by “love” and “acceptance”. We had plenty of that when we got married.

    It is a legitimate concern that she can juggle all of her home issues and the Vice Presidency. And that is not to diminish her abilities or demean her. It would be difficult for any human being.

  21. hamous on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:58 am

    …trust me, this is a crisis.

    It was a crisis for you. For you. You can’t project your difficulty to cope with life’s pitfalls onto others.

  22. BigJolly on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:59 am

    It is not a legitimate concern for you. It is a concern only for that family and Sarah Palin has determined that they can handle it. There is nothing in the public record that suggests she can’t.

    Comparing your own personal experience with hers is ludicrous on its face.

  23. jimb on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:00 am

    If you have that concern, then vote for Obama. I happen to think that I’ll pay close attention to what happens over the next few months and go from there. I can already promise you that I shall not vote for Obama, short of a true “road to Damascus” moment”, and probably not even then. I don’t expect that will be a consideration, however.

    Feminists everywhere are screaming at you, Shakey.

    The woman’s already the governor of a state.

  24. Robert 1 on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:03 am

    Don’t forget the “Clinton” factor and the pick of Palin gives the Dimwit feminist another reason to vote for McCain. I’ll bet they are already making those “Clinton 2012″ posters and bumper stickers already.

  25. hamous on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 am

    Just heard some news that will send Shakey and the media into apoplectic fits. Levi Johnston, the father of Bristol Palin’s baby, is going to be with the Palin family at the convention tonight.

  26. headshaker on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 am

    #22 BigJolly

    I’M NOT RUNNING FOR VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

    What part of that do you not get? She will be in a position to make and influence decisions that affect the lives of all Americans and people all over the world.

    Unbelievable.

  27. Zippy_Slug on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:07 am

    Wah..

    I’m guessing she’ll make enough money to have her HUSBAND stay at home and tend the family..

    I didn’t realize her daughter was running for Vice President..

    At least Barry Husein’s daughters won’t be “punished with a baby”…

  28. BigJolly on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:08 am

    I’M NOT RUNNING FOR VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

    And the nation will be forever grateful.

    I look at her prior life’s experiences and they tell me that she is quite capable of making sound decisions that will affect my life, the lives of my children and all Americans.

    There is more to life than being insulated in a political machine somewhere. Having adversity and handling it head on rather than running is a trait that I deeply admire.

  29. headshaker on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 am

    OK, but don’t discount my concerns as illegitimate merely because you don’t share them. That’s pretty disingenuous and self-righteous if you ask me (yes, I said that).

  30. jimb on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:21 am

    don’t discount my concerns as illegitimate

    I discount your concerns as illegitimate. I think that, so far, she’s demonstrated the fortitude necessary to handle the situation and function as VP.

  31. tedtam on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 am

    I think that in this whole discussion of “can she care for her family and be VP” someone is being left out.

    Her husband.

    From what I understand, he’s been an active and loving father. I grew up in a large family, and the older kids always helped the younger ones. I don’t think she’s going to be doing on her own, folks! And if she needs help with the daily stuff, I think she could probably hire it.

    And I think that husband/wife team had a very in-depth discussion when the offer was made. And I cannot believe that the children were left out of something this important as well.

    Give the family some credit. Only an idiot would take on the VP and raising her children single-handedly. She doesn’t strike me as an idiot.

  32. headshaker on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 am

    #30 jimb

    LMAO - you don’t know anything about her other than what you’ve read since she was chosen!

    Wow, the need for a savior for Conservatives is grounded in blind faith. Not to say she isn’t the real deal, but you people are doing to her what you criticize the left of doing with Obama. You’ve anointed her the savior of the party, the future, THE ONE!

    Dare I say it?

  33. hamous on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 am

    You wanna talk about self-righteousness? Your continued use of this phrase:

    What part of that do you not get?

    and its variants:

    You just don’t get it, as usual.

    You (et al) just don’t get it.

    What part of “the citizens of the lower 48 don’t give a caribou’s arse about what Palin did in Alaska” do you people not understand?

    what part of “the comments about the Russkies and the Alaskan National Guard were a reaction to Palin as the VP pick” do you not get?

    What part of this reality don’t you get?

    falls into that category.

  34. hamous on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 am

    LMAO - you don’t know anything about her other than what you’ve read since she was chosen!

    And you have an inside source we don’t?

  35. jimb on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 am

    #32 - then, at best, my position is no more or no less well grounded than yours. I believe, though, that you’re erring on the side of sexism. Based on what research and reading I’ve done, I believe she can handle the position.

    Honestly, if she were a man, would we be having this conversation?

    I’m not in need of a conservative savior, nor do I place my faith in a man (or woman) to that degree. I just think she’s a good choice.

    You’ve anointed her the savior of the party, the future, THE ONE!

    Show me where I did that. You won’t find it, because I didn’t.

    I defend her against silly accusations because a) they’re silly and b) I like to argue with you.

    So no, you don’t dare say it. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

  36. headshaker on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 am

    #33 Hamkin

    Yeah, but the difference is I’m right ;)

  37. headshaker on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:32 am

    What part of “I like Palin, a lot” did you not comprehend there comrade?

  38. tedtam on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 am

    (Cross posted from OC thread, but it fits here:)

    I just saw a charge against Palin that she “didn’t look pregnant” on her oft-reported trip from Texas to Alaska. I knew a lady who was pregnant at the same time as I was carrying Lovely Daughter. While I was into maternity clothes toward the end of my second month, “friend” wore here regular clothes almost until her due date!

    Every woman is built differently, and each pregnancy is different. While my body readily advertised my coming motherhood, other women have to work at it.

  39. jimb on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 am

    IF you’ve honestly read what I’ve been saying for the past few months, you’ll see that I’m not regarding the Republican ticket as any sort of “savior” at all. Just that they’re better by a large margin than Obama/Biden.

    The fact that you don’t have to do much more sit there and breathe to be better than Obama/Biden is irrelevant…

  40. Lost in Middle Earth on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 am

    Shakey,

    Sarah Palin and her family are the ones that have to deal with this situation. Not you not me, not John McCain, nor anyone else at the convention. Is it unfortunate that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant? Yes it is, does that mean she should step down as McCain’s Running mate? NO.

    The media is making a big deal out of the following issues, Bristol Palin’s pregnancy, She is a mother of 5 and one is a special needs child, Her “lack of experience”. And have you even thought for a second why they are carpet bombing the public with these issues? I can tell you with two words PAPER TIGER . Obama, is a paper tiger who is all talk and no solutions, but he is also as liberal if not more liberal than Ted Kennedy, and Robert Byrd put together. And at the same time McCain while being no where near Ronald Regan on the conservative scale has brought in someone who will appeal to the voters that he cannot or has problems connecting with. The media is afraid that if the true Sarah Palin speaks and is heard with out anybody commenting on her or digging up dirt that people will see someone who is more qualified and capable to be both Vice President as well as President, and could turn this election around with the possibility of causing wholesale change not only in the White House but also in Congress and that is what the liberals fear most is that if McCain wins and has very strong coattails that they will be completely out of power. Remember they (Democratically controlled Congress) is the lowest approved congress in HISTORY.

  41. jimb on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 am

    37 - You say that and then turn around and say things that indicate that you don’t really like her all that much as a VP candidate at all.

  42. semperloco on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:37 am

    I agree with headshaker that such births and such pregnancies pose a challenge. There is a difference, though, between those who face a challenge as a roadblock or see it as simply something else to make decisions about and continue on. Life is full of battles. Hers are more public than mine or yours and she is having her challenges compounded by hate-mongers and immature, mean-spirited bloggers. She has shown a lot of chutzpah taking on the corrupt machine that was in power in Alaska and winning. She does not track like someone who considers allowing difficulties to defeat her.

    I am not ready to canonize her, but I am excited that someone with her values is now nominated for a high position in the Republican Party. I have been so tired of Republicrats I could scream!!! I have even been looking at Bob Barr. Now I have some reason to stand up for the Republican Party - at least in her case. Next we need to weed out the RINO’s.

  43. Lost in Middle Earth on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:39 am

    I seem to remember back when Michelle Obama was blasted for some of her comments and her husband kept saying that family was out of bounds. Why is it that Obama and Biden’s families are out of bounds but McCain and Palin’s are fair game?

    Who are the practitioners of double standards now? Well?

    YWWISMHATWCDS™

  44. jimb on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:43 am

    These attacks against Palin come out of straight up FEAR from the left. They know that a) she’s a good candidate (not the savior, but a good candidate) b) their approval rating is in the sewer somewhere, and c) they’re PO’d because they can’t say that the Republicans aren’t so sexist anymore.

    Of course, the irony is that they’ve resorted to sexism themselves at this point…

  45. Custer Rushmore on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:50 am

    The Bush/Clinton era is over. The MSM has a DNR and will need life support about 10 pm CST tonight. The Maverick has provided us with a link to the future.

    Not only are they scared to death of the ‘Cuda…They are beginning to realize that all House of Representative seats and 1/3 of the Senate seats are on the same ballot as McCain/Palin vs. BO/Biden. If BO gets blown out, what will happen to the Dim majority in the House and the 49-49 tie in the Senate. Beware of the Sleeping Giant that is the conservative electorate.

    In 1994, the MSM was shocked by the blowout win using the Contract with America…Could it happen again with Sarah Barracuda and the Maverick?

    Should be alot of fun.

  46. a crazy canuk on September 3rd, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    I wonder if the question about the teenage daughter and the downs baby would even be raised if Sarah were a man. These issues would probably be framed as the kind and loving father balancing an important job with his family. Praises would be sung.

    However because she is a women some people think that she has to put everything on hold. My wife said to me not long ago if you want something done hire a busy woman. Women are better generally at multi-tasking and organizing a busy schedule.

    People speak about working moms, how come we never hear of working dads?

  47. texpat on September 3rd, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    #18 digitaldon

    I think Palin was a last minute choice by McCain after Obama passed up Hillary and picked Biden.

    As a matter of fact, that is incorrect. Palin was at the very top of McCain’s list since the spring and the serious vetting process began several months ago. McCain met Palin at a governors’ conference in February and was highly impressed with her. The next time they met at a public function in March, they had a private meeting for over an hour. Certain members of the press have tried to spin this choice as some last minute act of desperation when, in reality, it was anything but that.

    The McCain campaign knew a long time ago Hillary had turned down the vetting procedure when Obama’s people offered it. Not only did she figure she would not be picked anyway, the most crucial issue was divulging all the dirt and her weaknesses to her mortal, political enemy. This information would be in Barack’s hands the next time she takes him on in a race and if I were her, I would have made the same decision.

    McCain’s choosing Palin was made for a number of reasons, but not as a reaction to the fact Hillary was not chosen by Obama. The deep wounds Obama inflicted with his sexist condescension towards Hillary, and by extension, upon all her supporters was a bonus for McCain and Republicans, but I don’t believe it was a fundamental reason he chose Palin.

  48. hamous on September 3rd, 2008 at 12:30 pm
  49. dcgirl on September 3rd, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    You can honestly say the pregnancy is not a crisis for this family? I was 19 when I got married, trust me, this is a crisis.

    Shakey, just because something was a crisis for you doesn’t mean it is a crisis for everyone. People have differing abilities to handle situations in their lives. I once worked for a boss who thought EVERYTHING that didn’t go his way was a crisis. For me, a crisis would be my home about to be foreclosed on, my spouse or child dying, etc. If my daughter were pregnant and I had the same resources that Sarah Palin does, it would be an unfortunate situation that would need to be dealt with properly, but not a CRISIS. Wasn’t that what they called the Cuban Missile thingy? :-)

  50. southerntragedy on September 3rd, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    Hello? Tap…tap…tap….AHEM! ™

    For 5 days we have been arguing with Shakey over Sarah Palin. I think that the slaughtered horse is begining to turn. (yes Hamous, that line was for you!)

    May I present to you, the true Headshaker.

  51. BigJolly on September 3rd, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    I once worked for a boss who thought EVERYTHING that didn’t go his way was a crisis.

    You used to work for Shakey?

  52. Broc on September 3rd, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    Headshaker in #20 you mention an ex-wife, so I think its a safe assumption that you are a man, as am I.

    The fact is when my wife leaves me at home with the kids, it is a crisis. Women are made to deal with these family issues differently and I mean that with all seriousness.

    So it may seem like she is in a crisis, but for her it might just be another day at home.

    I wish she would hold a press conference and soon as she gets to the mic says
    “Ok on the topic of my daughter, whomever here that has not had premarital sex can ask the first question.”

    I know that the moronic reporters would go off anyhow, but I would love to see if there was a pause.

  53. hamous on September 3rd, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    #50 Yeah, I know. But I’m off today and its too hot to work in the yard.

  54. Darren10 on September 3rd, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    #6;

    Keep in mind that the Left and their media stooges were just as ruthless to Reagan in 1980. It didn’t work out too well form them back then. Let’s hope history repeats itself.

    The media was viscious over President Abraham Lincoln too. And he turned out OK.

  55. hamous on September 3rd, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    Yup Darren10. I actually think it helps McCain/Palin to have this blatant bias all over the airwaves.

  56. digitaldon37 on September 3rd, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Texpat said,

    Palin was at the very top of McCain’s list since the spring and the serious vetting process began several months ago

    Where are you getting your information from to be sure of that? Some of what I read suggested that he was looking at how he could pick up electoral college votes. Somehow I don’t see Palin doing much good in that respect.

    At any rate, I still haven’t seen a strong argument from anyone that suggests that this election is not Obama’s to lose.

  57. Darren10 on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    #13;

    (This has become a popular quote in this thread. I’m not surprised to have found out it was from Biblical scholar, headshaker).

    You can honestly say the pregnancy is not a crisis for this family? I was 19 when I got married, trust me, this is a crisis.

    What a coincidence. My wife got married when she was 19 and gave birth at 20. (Relations began after marriage, I assure you). Her marriage has gone very well so far, Challenges and all. Believe me it is. I know her husband quite well. Strong, brave, and dam* handsome he is. ;)

  58. Darren10 on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    #56;

    At any rate, I still haven’t seen a strong argument from anyone that suggests that this election is not Obama’s to lose.

    He’ll lose.

  59. jimb on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    I actually agree that this election IS Obama’s to lose. So do the current polls.

    I also think he’s going to lose it.

    More and more people are going to realize a few very important things (courtesy of the opinion piece I link to):

    1. Obama can’t overcome his foreign policy weakness by relying on Biden.
    2. More and more people are going to realize that you can’t tax your way out of economic troubles. Raising taxes is NOT good for the economy.
    3. Nationalized health care won’t work.
    4. re: Energy - if you restrict supply and tax production, prices go up.
    5. Americans know that they will have to pick up the bill if Mr. Obama sends checks to people who already don’t pay taxes.

  60. american woman on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    Don’t you just love the media and their all out effort to get an empty suit elected? Good grief, Hillary was more qualified, female and would have been more of a contender. They scream poor vetting on McCain’s part. How did they vet Obamaramadingdong? I don’t think they were too happy when Pastor Wright and Ayers were brought to the front. How about the brother who says Obama was a Muslim, and the other brother who lives in a box? It’s just bizarre. I wonder if the media realizes their credibility is dieing faster than a bad comedians jokes.

  61. Darren10 on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    #59;

    2. More and more people are going to realize that you can’t tax your way out of economic troubles.

    “Hi. I’m Barack Hussein Obama and I’ve been a tax increase legislator my whole life. And believe me when I say, we can’t tax our way out of this one.”

    [Political ad paid for by Obama(ites)forlowertaxes]

    IT’S PERFECT!!!

  62. Darren10 on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    #60;

    and the other brother who lives in a box?

    But don’t worry. Big millionaire brother will redistribute his own wealth as to be fair to little brother who lives in a box. Just you wait and see.

  63. digitaldon37 on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    Darren10 said:

    He’ll lose.

    You do not know the power of the Oprah ™.

    Hot Air has a funny video (content warning) on how McCain picked Palin: http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/03/video-how-the-vp-pick-was-made/

  64. texpat on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Clive Crook is a Senior Editor at The Atlantic Monthly and a National Journal columnist. He remarks he has received many e-mails like the following:

    My wife was on the fence in this election, and is pro-choice. She does not like McCain, and is lukewarm about Obama and Biden.

    The Palin pick energized her to call me from work, email me, and–are you ready?–send in $$ to the McCain camp. I was floored (she voted Kerry last election.) She says the story of Palin (which she spent two hours on line researching) has touched her heart, inspired her, and that is enough. She and her friends are meeting Wednesday for dinner (six to nine women) “to talk about Sarah . . . and Hillary.”

    Not Governor Palin. “Sarah.”

    My college daughter is reacting the same way and sent McCain $15.00.
    I think there is something happening that I don’t fully understand, but there it is.

    Time will tell.

    Just hide and watch, people.

  65. Darren10 on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    #63;

    You do not know the power of the Oprah ™.

    Substitute “Oprah” for “Sith” or “Dark Side”?

  66. Darren10 on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    #64;

    Significant that she’s called “Sarah”. Glenn Beck last night on his TV show said he had the exact same reaction to those who called into his radio show. They call her, “Sarah” as opposed to “Governor”. Very interesting.

    My college daughter is reacting the same way and sent McCain $15.00.

    QEUSTION: Isn’t that actually HIS money? Just wondering? ;)

  67. texpat on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    #56 digitaldon

    Here is one source on the Palin choice and there are others, but I have to leave right now. I’ll look later.

    Far from being a last-minute tactical move or a second choice when better known alternatives were eliminated, Palin was very much in McCain’s thinking from the beginning of the selection process, according to McCain’s advisers. The 44-year-old governor made every cut as the first list of candidates assembled last spring was slowly winnowed. The more McCain learned about her, the more attracted he was to her as someone who shared his maverick, anti-establishment instincts.

    “He looked at her like a kindred spirit,” said one close adviser, who declined to be identified in order to speak more freely. “Someone who wasn’t afraid to take tough positions.”

    Rick Davis, McCain’s campaign manager and the person at the point of the vice presidential process, said there was no abrupt change of course in the final hours. Nor, he said, was Palin selected without having gone through the full vetting process that was done for other finalists. That process included reviews of financial and other personal data, an FBI background check and considerable discussion among the handful of McCain advisers involved in the deliberations.

  68. digitaldon37 on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Darren10, that didn’t cross my mind. I guess that was an inadvertent double entendre.

    If the Oprah ™ says “read this book”, people will read that book. If the Oprah ™ says “Tom Cruise is a good actor” then Tom Cruise is a good actor.

    I believe the Oprah ™ has endorsed BO, so his victory is inevitable. The only way for McCain to defeat BO is to defeat the Oprah ™, perhaps by bringing back Rikki Lake.

  69. texpat on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    From the Chicago Tribune in May, 2008

    An October Gallup Poll before the rallies but after her public endorsement of Obama found that her favorable ratings had fallen from 74 to 66 percent while her unfavorable ratings jumped from 17 to 26 percent.

    When this was noted in an April Ticket item, hundreds of female commenters, many clearly supporting the Democratic candidacy of Sen. Hillary Clinton, left angry comments about Winfrey’s.failure to support the first serious White House candidacy of a female. They also seemed angered over her public advocacy of new-age spiritualism, including among her book club choices.

    Now come new TV ratings showing that her daytime audience, which is still the largest and was nearly 9 million at its height in 2004-05, has fallen for the third straight year, to 7.8 million a year ago and now to 7.3 million.

    Her monthly publication, “O, The Oprah Magazine,” has also lost 10 percent of its circulation in the last three years, according to a New York Times story. And a new editor is being sought. Officials of billionaire Winfrey’s company, Harpo Productions, profess no concern over the dip in numbers.

    Well over 100 million people voted in the presidential elections of 2000 and 2004. Oprah has about 7 million daytime viewers and nobody knows what percentage of them actually vote. Getting a couple of hundred thousand people to buy a book is no small feat, but it is a long way from there to swinging a national election.

  70. hamous on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    Texpat - I have a brother and sister-in-law who were “on the fence” of voting/not voting. They watched the Dem convention and were unimpressed. They watched the Warren questioning and became thoroughly disgusted with Obama’s “above my pay grade” answer and impressed with McCain’s unequivocal answer on when life begins (they’re strongly pro-life but also suffer from a severe case of BDS). Then came last Friday. After the announcement of Palin as VP they did some research on her. My bro said all of a sudden his wife proclaimed, “We need to get some signs!” With one announcement McCain has knocked them off the fence and into play in a big way.

    My 10 year old nephew came home from school on Friday asking his mother if she had heard the news and that his (public) schoolteacher told the whole class and she was really excited about the election.

    I’ve heard this reaction dozens of times over the last few days. I can no longer hear all these examples from all over the country and think they’re just anecdotal.

    This is why the Left and the media, who have anointed TEO as the messiah, are coming unglued. They realize he is an empty suit. He has no history of reform. On the contrary he was steeped in the political cronyism of Chicago, a machine that makes New Orleans look virtuous. Without a teleprompter he can’t form a coherent thought. He has a documented, decades long, personal relationship with anti-American racists, anti-American domestic terrorists, and anti-Semites. Wouldn’t you be scared?

  71. digitaldon37 on September 3rd, 2008 at 3:21 pm

    Texpat, I jest about Oprah ™ but I think you’re missing my point. The media/Oprah do not have to influence 100 million voters, only the ones who are not hard-core Republicans and Democrats. I would take a wild guess and say that many of those voters are easily swayed be our media.

    I don’t have the exact numbers in front of me, but I think 30% voters are Republican and 40% are Democrats and there’s a big chunk of swing voters in the middle. Those swing voters seem to be in Florida, Ohio, Penn, and other states that have large electoral votes and seem to favor the D’s more than the R’s.

    I think what we’ll see this year are some R states (low electoral votes) going D this year. I hope I am wrong though.

  72. texpat on September 3rd, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    digitaldon

    Yes, the gap right now between likely voters identifying themselves as Republicans or Democrats is around 6 percent. It was, I think, 1.5 % in November of 2004 and about 3.5% in November of 2006. That figure does not include those who state undecided or independent. The other unknown factor are those squishy, lifelong Democrats who can and have voted for Republican presidential candidates in the past. The analysis I have read before from polling experts is that most true independents don’t make up their mind until the last 2 weeks of the campaign period.

  73. Darren10 on September 3rd, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    #71;

    I understand your jesture but here’s a serious response. People go out and read Oprah’s book because she says so but those books are laden with depression. They are the most depressing reads available. My wife ceased reading her books after only two recommendations. So, like my wife ceasing Oprah’s reads, when people get to know Obama, i think they’ll have second thoughts about voting for him.

    a) He supported killing live babies. (Like something straight out of a Oprah-recommended book)

    b) He wants to tax more

    c) His friends are/were crooks and he’s *DONE* nothing about it. only talks about change.

    d) He’s really not that articulate: “uh, uh, uh, uh, um, it’s, uh, ih, um…”

    Palin ‘08 - Change that Happened

  74. texpat on September 3rd, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    digitaldon

    Here is a monthly chart tracking those voters identifying Democrat/Republican/Other beginning in January 2004 to the present.

    It is from Rasmussen and I thought you might find it interesting. It is noteworthy that at no time during that 4-1/2 year period did the Republicans have a lead. They won a decisive Presidential election with a negative in that area.

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