Love him or hate him, Ron Paul is consistent when it comes to voting against boondoggle spending.
The sole local dissenter was Rep. Ron Paul, R-Lake Jackson, whose district includes some of the areas hit hardest by Ike, including Galveston.
Paul did not return repeated calls and e-mails seeking an explanation. The libertarian-leaning lawmaker often opposes spending legislation.
Good for him. I’m sick and tired of politicians taking money from hard working Americans and giving it away needlessly. I’m certain he’ll be blasted for it in exactly the opposite way the Bill White has been made into some sort of hero for reaching into our pockets.
I can already hear the conservatives screaming and yelling at a guy that just wants to stop this country from continuing its downward spiral, at the same time putting Bill White on a freaking pedestal for ‘helping’ them.
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Let’s make Paul Patton’s right-hand man.
Maybe in four years we could vote for a Sarah Palin / Ron Paul ticket. I would love to vote for them together.
Honestly, I don’t think it’s wise for the government to give money to victims of all these natural disasters. If FEMA were to do their job, that would be sufficient for me. NGOs such as the Red Cross or the Salvation Army do a much better job than the government.
Ron Paul is right, why should the taxpayer be responsible for those who are irresponsible. Does the federal government give us back any of our tax dollars if we get into a financial bind albeit not storm related?? It’s like why get flood insurance if the government is going to bail us out anyway. Or why doesn’t the government use our tax dollars to buy us flood insurance and every other insurance we might need instead of wasting it on something like foreign aid.
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Bill White did an excellent job to the extent that he was able to marshal local and private resources to aid victims. This is where he should stop. Getting the Federal gov’t involved sends the cost/benefit ratio into the stratosphere, not to mention the additional hassle of dealing with them.
#3 Cajun. I disagree. I think those NGOs do a fabulous job — I give to the Red Cross with a direct-deposit monthly donation — but only because their role is secondary. If it were their job to provide primary relief, they would be in uncharted and treacherous territory; out of their league. The government needs to be the primary responder because police and even military powers are required to keep order, and to enforce health and security edicts. Even the Salvation Army doesn’t have the soldiers for that kind of work.
#5 Darren. I noticed that even with that announcement, GM’s stock price is sinking today. As one of those opportunistic speculators making money off of the decline of collapsing companies, I welcome the volatility. Last week I used it to double my active trading account … and GM was the primary benefactor, via puts and calls. Right now I’m all cash, because I don’t trust the government’s decision making right now, and can’t figure how it will affect the markets. I don’t think anyone knows, and I think the decision makers barely even care. If I had $100 million to invest right now, I would be very nervous about where I could safely put it. Maybe a Swiss bank, in euros?
#7 ghost
FEMA is not a first responder either. First response is still very local. Second response tends to be the state and/or surrounding communities, think National Guard guys (and guyettes). FEMA then comes in third and really boogers everything up. I’m not sure what their value-add is.
#8;
Warren Buffet made a killing.
10 Darren,
It is possible to join Warren and make a little money yourself. Buy some shares of BRK-A or BRK-B (Berkshire-Hathaway). I have been a stockholder for twenty years and it is the best “no-brainer” inverstment that I have ever made.
Guess who is one of Obama’s closest financial advisors is?
Simple
p.s. McCain got Gramm, Fiorinna, and Bill Gates
And you can bet that while Obama/McCain will both end up voting for the bail out, and make loud noises about how they “saved the country,” Dr. No will continue to be consistent, and cast a principled and responsible vote .
Seriously, do they really want us to believe that the same 500 some-odd knuckleheads that created this debacle are going to magically fix it with the same kind of boneheaded logic that caused the situation in the first place?
But more on topic, I never liked Ike, and even less so now.
We had a spell of iffy power earlier. The breaker for the AC condenser/compressor tripped, and smoked when I reset it. There’s pieces of capacitor sprayed over the electrical compartment of the unit. I’m going to cross my fingers. install a new “kick-start” kit, and clean up the contacts on the breaker. But I could be looking at a new unit. Don’t worry, I won’t be asking you good folks to chip in to replace my 20+ year old AC unit via forced contributions to the nanny state government that McBama supports.
#11 are you an A or B shareholder?
#7 I dont mean they should be there to restore order. I am saying relief… ie providing food and clothing and ice. People helping people, not the government.
I’m with you guys, I pay for lousy insurance (like there is any other kind), and fix myself when those b@stards balk at doing what they are contracted and paid to do. I didn’t sign up for FEMA or anything else, and don’t have a “free” generator.
BUT . . . if you are gonna carp about the government stepping in (it) and helping tax-paying, law-abiding citizens, mostly home owners, when they have a legitimate loss from an act of nature, then why aren’t you screaming about welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and all the other money that’s mostly given to people that won’t get off their butts? And while you are at it, howl about the BILLION $$$ bail-outs that seem to be happening daily now.
Why is it that the middle class Joe/Jane are the only people in this country that don’t deserve help when something terrible happens?
I personally threw up a little in my mouth every time someone mentioned FEMA or “free money”, or “free generators”, or all the other “bull carbon footprint” that became a topic of discussion when the crowds started returning when the evacuation was lifted. You didn’t hear a word of talk like that from the group that hunkered . . . strange.
Can anyone here who backed Chris Peden in the primary honestly say that Peden would have voted against this bill?
“why aren’t you screaming about welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and all the other money that’s mostly given to people that won’t get off their butts?”
We ought to be consistent and scream against all the social spending by the Feds. It’s all wrong and it’s all unconstitutional.
A pox on socialist (Dick Armey would rightly say “Marxist”) politicians.
#15;
That’s one for Paul over Peden. Though overall I’d like Peden in office.
Bob#12;
A good friend of my family growing up came into town for my baby sister’s Wedding. The man of that family made tens of millions buying and selling bonds. Upon fyling in O’Hare Airport, he and his wife went ot the car rental place to, well, rent a car. Having made a fortune early on in his life, he paid off his house loan and thereafter paid cash or used debit for everything. Buying a new Porshe or Ferrari, he plopped down the cash and drove off (he brought his new Ferrari to our house the day he bought it. he said he “had to” show it off to someone - fun ride indeed).
They moved away from the Chicago area and after returning for the wedding and attempting to rent a car, he was denied. in fact the car rental place was told electronically NOT to rent to this person/couple. That’s because since he used cash or direct bank withdrawls to purchase everything, he was completely unknown in the credit world. He had a credit score of ZERO. He tried to use his “small” bank account he left in Chicago upon departure when he tried to rent the car. Andf I stated, “I bet you had enough money in your small account to write one check ad by every single car on the car rental’s lot.” Remember, this is O’Haore Airport. it’s iterally the size of small towns and cities. He did some quick math estimations and said, “yes”.
So there was a man who could have bought every single car in a car rental lot and was denied to rent a car because his credit score was ZERO. Because he stayed out of debt, he was prohibited from renting. This still makes no sense to me. Debtless people should be at the top of the credit score chart. People who pay off their debt immediately should be there as well. But from my understanding, that hurts your credit score. Keeping an ongoing debt raises it.
Crazy. I shouldn’t try to understand it entirely except when government gets involved in controlling wealth, it’s always disastrous.
#16;
Here you go.
Don’t forget the government is supposedly giving $40.00 coupons to buy a converter for the TVs that otherwise will become obsolete next Febr. Another waste of my tax dollars. I now live in an area where satellite is the only access to TV. Have gone more than a year without the boob tube and have no plans to get the service. Anyone want to buy a used 29 inch color TV; no converter included?
20 how much?
Simple and Cajun I have BRK B ($4440 a Share) BRK A is a WHOLE lot more.
Even I don’t agree 100% with Ron Paul. In fact, I have serious reservations about some aspects of his foreign policy. The reason I like him is he sticks to his guns on the issues that really matter: spending and the economy.
Paul is one of the few voices in Washington to consistently oppose spending, and he’s been practically the LONE voice of sanity on the Federal Reserve system that is at the heart of the marxist bailout beast that Bush is pushing right now.
Paul understates the threat of Iran. But so what? The actions of a kooky little dictator in a third world dumphole do disrupt the region and may pose a threat many years down the road. If he becomes too much of a problem we’ll deal with him by necessity.
But the value of the dollar, both today and in the future, has an impact on virtually every aspect of our lives at all times. Except that we aren’t dealing with it. Paul is among a tiny handful looking out for our interests as taxpayers and wage earners. Everyone else from Bush to McBama wants to give us the shaft and socialize our financial sector and bail out precisely those people who screwed it up in the first place.
#23 Despite my pointed and vocal support for Ron Paul, I too have never agreed with 100% of what he has said. He’s far more socially conservative than I am (duh!) Yet for several months I stood shoulder to shoulder with others that saw real hope for change — Not the quick-fix superficial change spouted by one of the lesser of two evils — Real change, slow, steady, and only accomplished over the long haul.
The people I pounded the streets with each had their own views, and most were far different from mine. Again no surprise. There were Evangelical Christians, home-schoolers, and of course libertarians, and intermittently a few young formerly apathetic first time voters, in which I see tremendous potential. There were probably a few liberals there too, but (again) I never met a troofer.
I don’t think anyone I met seriously thought that RP could get the nomination. I sure didn’t. Yet we put our differences aside and agreed that the status quo was bad, in control, and much in need of a catalyst that just might, if we were lucky, result in real change for the better — Even if it took years — And it will.
This election is already down the tubes. I’ve mentioned the “two party duopoly” many times, because the concept is easy to understand. What we really have is a one party political
systemindustry with two distinct factions that prioritize their survival above the best interests of our country.Regardless of any third-party impact in November, we’re looking at yet another coin toss election between two “parties” who’s minor differences will continue to be grossly exaggerated between now and November.
And the coin toss is rigged: Heads: They Win… Tails: We lose.
Happy Voting!
Shame your website did so much to damage Ron Paul by making a mountain out of the fact that some creeps were giving him money:
http://lonestartimes.com/2007/10/23/ron-paul-funded-by-supporters-of-racist-websites/
http://lonestartimes.com/2007/10/25/rpb1/
Well, you got some internet traffic out of it, I guess.
#16 What’s Dick Armey’s wife’s name?
jagger;
That was no shame. What really exposed Ron Paul in that post was his reluctancy to renounce those funds or to anyway distance himself from them. Ron Paul stands by some great principles but his is very leaderless. He should be on the forefront thwarting Washington’s current move to bailout corporations.
#18 Darren my folks were middle class hard working people, bought an old farm house from my Dads mother along with 16 acres of land in 1957, fixed it up and was going to replace it witha new one but decided to totally remake/add on to it, In 58. Their last time payment of any kind was a new 1957 Plymouth. My Mom Retired before my Dad and decided that she needed a Credit card for use when they traveled. This would have been in about 1978, SHE HAD NO CREDIT history! She told them that she had over $400,000 in their bank!? They said ,so. She had to get a collatral card with a $500 limit, they wouldn’t let her deposit more and have a higher limit until she had the account for 6 months. MY BOY HAS A CREDIT CARD NOW!! $3500 limit, credit score 780?!?! Mine is only 820!!!
How inside out and upside down it is that those who have no debt do not exist as far as the credit folks are concerned. We likewise have been advised to have at least one credit card that’s used regularly. It doesn’t seem to matter what’s charged on it, just so it’s used.
29.
interesting fact, the reason that it does not matter is because on your credit report it does not say that you pay in full or even how much that you spend per month it shows what your max balance is.
Pat and Edd could not have agreed with you less this morning on their show, BJ. I was a little surprised at the heat in their commentary.
I tend to side with RP on this one.
David Crockett, Charity, and Congress
13 Cajun
Both…..Most of my IRA is in BRK-A….
I would point out that I bought it for much cheaper than the current price. Great stock to own if you want to minimize your tax exposure.
Simple